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Tony
06-20-2008, 10:47 AM
Just like most of you here I was not doing as well as I should with my test ram here and BlackOps, so I dug deaper and look to have found the issue.

on the dimms I was testing here SPD was booting at 1067, seems the board does not like this to much, so i develoiped a test spd that boots at 1333.

Timings are 8-8-8-22 at 1333, i have 2 versions of the SPD, 1 for 1GB modules and the other for 2GB modules.

They do help...a great deal ;)

There are rules as usual.

1 don't flash overclocked, infact run 1333CPU and 1067 memory and test stability before you flash.

2 SPDtool does not fully support DDR3, but it will get the job done as long as you ignore its warning and follow my pictorial guide.

3 flashing the wrong spd is no ones fault but your own, flashing a 1GB spd to a 2GB module will reduce the modules size but allow a boot, flashing a 2GB spd to a 1GB module is bad, infact really bad, so much so it will need to be shipped back for a reflash so be carefull ;)

1 open spd tool, go to read and let it read the spd off one of your modules.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/reading_old_spd.png

2 Save the old spd by going to File> save as> and choose a location and name.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/saving_old_spd.png

3 Now load up the new spd, I am loading the 2GB file here, be sure to load the file that is correct for the size of the modules you are using.
Go to File>Open> and point SPD tool at the new file.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/loading_new_spd.png

4 Now go to file>write> and choose the first module in the list to write to.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/writing_new_spd.png

5 It will ask if you are sure you want to write...hit yes

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/writing_new_spd2.png

6 Now it will say there is an error, this is due to spdtool not correctly reading DDR3 SPD, just choose to write the spd anyway.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/writing_new_spd3.png

It will write then verify, be patient here. Once both modules are writen close everything down, reboot and resume bios tweaking and testing.

Here are the files:

Blackops ocz test spd for 1GB DDR3 modules. (http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/1gb_blackops_1333_ocz.zip)

Blackops ocz test spd for 2GB DDR3 modules (http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/2gb_blackops_1333_ocz.zip)

Important note

If the modules you have already boot at 1333 by spd I doubt you will need to flash, I think this file best suits the following modules.

1 1333EB ReaperX 6-5-5-timings
2 1333 reaper 6-6-6- timings
3 1333 Platinum
4 1333 gold

5 1600 Platinum 7-7-7- timings
6 1600EB 7-7-6- and 7-6-6- timings

1800 and 2000 rated modules may already boot at 1333 anyway, as I get more info i will update testing, for now if you must play make sure to save the old spd so you have it incase it makes matters worse and you want to flash it back.

Discuss how the files do for you in this thread.

GTFouts
06-20-2008, 11:19 AM
I just want to be very clear on this so I dont mess up my memory.

You are saying 1600 Platinum 7-7-7 timings.

I have FOUR 2GB Sticks of Platinum 1600, part number OCZ3P16004GK.

I am assuming that these are what you mean, am I correct? Would just hate to toast it is all.

Tony
06-20-2008, 11:32 AM
yup you could flash these and test, try 2 modules first and do some testing.

spikerules
06-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Hi Tony,
I cant seem to get the memory to work still. I loaded your settings for my ReaperX memory and the system doesnt boot on restart. Am i doing something wrong?

Tony
06-20-2008, 12:01 PM
did you flash the modules? if so clear cmos and try a reboot.

Also make sure you flashed the right file, flashing a 1GB spd to a 2GB module will still boot but show as 1GB only, flashing a 2GB spd to a 1GB module is bad...RMA time for a reflash

spikerules
06-20-2008, 12:18 PM
did you flash the modules? if so clear cmos and try a reboot.

Also make sure you flashed the right file, flashing a 1GB spd to a 2GB module will still boot but show as 1GB only, flashing a 2GB spd to a 1GB module is bad...RMA time for a reflash

OK I tried it again, but this time with standard settings in bios (i.e no overclocking on cpu). It restarted and went I went into the bios. But I still cannot do any overclocking... am I missing something. Granted, I'm new to this whole spdtool thing. Does it just allow you to overclock the memory or is it ACTUALLY overclocking the memory without the bios?

Update : - I just set the divider to 1.4 333 and its now running at 1600MHz stable (atm) within windows Vista. I havent touched the spd timings yet though.

Tony
06-20-2008, 12:40 PM
just set the divider to auto, let the board pick the strap it wants, thats how I have been testing.

You still will need to tweak and set voltages etc as normal, all that has changed is the default spd boot table.

spikerules
06-20-2008, 12:46 PM
Well thanks Tony, it seems to have worked like a charm! I dont understand how its working now, but it is:) I am using timings 8-8-8-22 for 2x2GB of ReaperX @ 1600MHz. Do you think I can get a bit more out of the memory?

Again, thank you so much for this! Its a brilliant topic and likely to help thousands of OCZ and Blackops adopters!

PS I havent changed any voltages in the bios... I have left them at 1.6, which is the default with no problems. I have picked the 1.4 333 divider also. I guess I have had to tweak mine a little more to get it running.

spikerules
06-20-2008, 01:04 PM
BAH! Just tried a prime95 test and it crashed instantly! Grrr... Tony can you list your RAM settings please?

Tony
06-20-2008, 01:12 PM
man you need to learn to tweak, I have no settings that are 100% yet plus even with the same CPU there is no way 2 boards work the same never mind the ram.

I just got the board to behave better with the ram, after that its up to you to do the overclocking.

philbrown23
06-20-2008, 02:32 PM
so wait wait wait..,. this is like a bios flash, but for ddr3???? I have OCZ gold 1333mhz rma, but would love to tweak more but am not willing to F**k up my ram.

Tony
06-20-2008, 02:40 PM
Don't flash it if you are unsure...plus do you have a blackops?

Tony
06-20-2008, 02:54 PM
some idea what i quickly have been able to do, this in the blue slots, minimal bios tweaking with 4GB 1333 reaper, this is rated 1333 6-6-6- timings, here it is running 1700MHZ 8-7-7-24 timings around 1.85V and 1.5v NB

Tony
06-20-2008, 03:50 PM
BAH! Just tried a prime95 test and it crashed instantly! Grrr... Tony can you list your RAM settings please?

Try 1.5V Nb and 1.8 to 1.86V for the ram

Tony
06-20-2008, 05:29 PM
tight timings and low tRD is usually as fast as mid level timings, higher speed and higher tRD.

This was quite easy with the new spd. 1.8V ram, 1.5V NB. Will push 8GB to 1600 next.

GTFouts
06-21-2008, 01:50 PM
Maybe, JUST Maybe, he's trying to help those of us who already bought OCZ DDR3.

AND MAYBE he's doing his best to help get more module types to work with the Blackops.

AND MAYBE he's trying to make people happy with all the money they have already spent.

Ever think of that!

But, since you have the answer, well, perhaps Tony should just say the Hell With It!

I swear....

saaya
06-21-2008, 10:08 PM
thanks a lot tony! very nice thread! :toast:
good to see your making some progress spike :)

Tony
06-22-2008, 10:45 AM
Hmm you could do all that or just buy Corsair or Cellshock DDR3 that works out of the packet :rofl: I tested the stock spd and it does work out the packet, the issue lies with bios spd speed detection, and the strap it sets off this...so this was nothing more than a workaround to give Foxconn time to get the bios sorted and OCZ space to breathe.

Make sure you know what you are talking about before you bash ;)

Tony
06-22-2008, 10:53 AM
Maybe, JUST Maybe, he's trying to help those of us who already bought OCZ DDR3.

AND MAYBE he's doing his best to help get more module types to work with the Blackops.

AND MAYBE he's trying to make people happy with all the money they have already spent.

Ever think of that!

But, since you have the answer, well, perhaps Tony should just say the Hell With It!

I swear....

Im not going to say Hell with it, but I hope he learns to speak with a little more courtecy in the future. I am here to help both Foxconn and OCZ so that you the end user gets a good experience with both products.

Sometimes a quick and easy fix helps all, thats all this was.

spikerules
06-22-2008, 11:52 AM
You have been a massive help Tony. I hope this now gives Foxconn somewhere to start with regards to OCZ memory and their next bios update! I am still having issues, but with your help I have managed to progress much further than I had hoped. I was all but ready to give up on this board until you started to post.

Any kind of voltage change to the memory and I get no bootup. Its odd that the memory works at 1.6v @ 1600MHz for a few mins in windows, but wont even boot if I go above that voltage setting.

GTFouts
06-22-2008, 02:13 PM
I meant no offense to you Tony, I was only being sarcastic to Smirnoff. I should have quoted it I guess, Sorry.

You made it farther than I have Spike. Since flashing my 8MB to the new file, it will boot right up at 1333, FSB 333, 1.8v Dram, 1.5 NB, strap to auto, mem to By SPD. Goes right into windows, can surf, run programs and such, but it will fail stress testing. Thats no biggie cause 1600 is what I'm after. I just want it to run at solid stock speeds first. It wouldnt do 1333 before the Tony fix, so I am very grateful for that. Thanks Tony!

I did spend 12 hours straight trying my best to get it to run at 1600. I just couldnt do it, plain and simple. Best I got was desktop loaded, but the min I clicked on Real Temp, or Super Pi, or well anything, it would either lock up or BSOD. And I only hit the desktop about 5 times, the rest were all lockups or BSOD's before or at the welcome screen. The frustrating part was I could never get it to do the same thing twice. Lets say I got to the desktop, then I would change just 1 thing and it would crash early, so I would change it back and it wouldnt even post or crash right away or just keep rebooting or whatever, but would never do what it did the first time I tried those settings. Was that way all day. So, I'll just wait for more revisions and keep trying.

Edit: Well, after reading saaya's response in the blackops thread, it would seem that my main problem is trying to go 1600 with 4 sticks of 2GB. OK, fair enough, I will give it another go with 2 sticks then, I should have better luck. Again, hopefully future versions of the bios will allow me to go 4 sticks, that would be sweet.

saaya
06-23-2008, 01:14 AM
what timings are you using?
the thing is this, the spd provides the board with the timings needed to run the memory stable.
the bios can ignore some of those timings and set them to more relaxed or tighter timings.

but whatever we program in the bios or whatever ocz programs in the spd, it will be for a single pair of memory.
if we change the auto timings to work with 2gb sticks, then 1gb sticks will run slower with auto timings.
so the best way is if the spd is programmed to more relaxed timings, which the bios then takes over to work with the 2gb sticks.

but to have 4 2gb sticks working together you need even more relaxed timings...
this would mean ocz would slow down the memory for those who only use 2 sticks, to make it possible to run 4 sticks with auto timings.

the best ans easiest solution is an spd, specially tweaked for 8gb usage, in combination with us adjusting some timings in BIOS as well as soon as 4 sticks are beeing used.

i might be wrong on this, im not sue i got this all right :D
but from what i know, this is prety much how it works and how we can fix it :)

tony, thanks a lot again :toast:

Tony
06-23-2008, 02:09 AM
Regards having to flash SPD, its no different than a bios flash which most guys actually look forward to here. I have not really got going yet with DDR3 spd but when I do you will see more files like this available for download and flash to enhance poerformance. It is part of OCZ's dedication to performance and in this case support we allow SPD flashing with full warranty as long as the files come from an OCZ rep.

So to say its a bad thing IMO is wrong, you spend more than $200 on a board and flash the bios 40 times in some cases and think nothing of it...bios and SPD are the same thing in all honesty.

All I did here was alter the spd speed tables, I still think they need work as i learn what boards need to see. Its no different than removing the boot as CAS7 or adding CAS7 to the CAS latencies supported for some of the GBT boards to work ok. Usually you guys don't see what we are upto but in this case I went public as so many were bashing OCZ and Foxconn. One simple 2 minute flash and you can get back testing and as I found some huge gains werre to be made.

Saaya

I think it was locking the board into 1067 strap even though you may force something different. the one option that actually worked OK on the old SPD was 333/1333, the others seemed to have issues.

Tony
06-23-2008, 02:16 AM
I meant no offense to you Tony, I was only being sarcastic to Smirnoff. I should have quoted it I guess, Sorry.

You made it farther than I have Spike. Since flashing my 8MB to the new file, it will boot right up at 1333, FSB 333, 1.8v Dram, 1.5 NB, strap to auto, mem to By SPD. Goes right into windows, can surf, run programs and such, but it will fail stress testing. Thats no biggie cause 1600 is what I'm after. I just want it to run at solid stock speeds first. It wouldnt do 1333 before the Tony fix, so I am very grateful for that. Thanks Tony!

I did spend 12 hours straight trying my best to get it to run at 1600. I just couldnt do it, plain and simple. Best I got was desktop loaded, but the min I clicked on Real Temp, or Super Pi, or well anything, it would either lock up or BSOD. And I only hit the desktop about 5 times, the rest were all lockups or BSOD's before or at the welcome screen. The frustrating part was I could never get it to do the same thing twice. Lets say I got to the desktop, then I would change just 1 thing and it would crash early, so I would change it back and it wouldnt even post or crash right away or just keep rebooting or whatever, but would never do what it did the first time I tried those settings. Was that way all day. So, I'll just wait for more revisions and keep trying.

Edit: Well, after reading saaya's response in the blackops thread, it would seem that my main problem is trying to go 1600 with 4 sticks of 2GB. OK, fair enough, I will give it another go with 2 sticks then, I should have better luck. Again, hopefully future versions of the bios will allow me to go 4 sticks, that would be sweet.

I will push to see if I can get 8GB at 1600 stable, for now have a look at my settings for 1333 though, i was running 6-6-6-18 with tRD at 6 and Trfc at 54 much like DDR2 and being honest it was actually very fast. Forget the synthetic bandwidth numbers, concentrate on the access latency and test with real world apps.

I found some of the other ram dividers do look to have issues, so start with a default CPU clock, see what ram dividers look to work ok. Once you know what will work push up from there.

saaya
06-23-2008, 02:36 AM
it seems all dividers except for the 1.2x ones work iirc

spikerules
06-23-2008, 04:05 AM
it seems all dividers except for the 1.2x ones work iirc

1.2x dividers work for me... the other dont!

Tony
06-23-2008, 05:43 AM
I think its related to the strapping set off the ram speeds set off the spd, hence some ratio's work and some don't. Also remember FSB around 455max with PF6, after that you need PF7 and you may have to loosen CAS also.

Im getting close to 6800MB/s here in memtest86+ at 4.1GHZ CPU, 455fsb and 8GB@1366MHZ ram with 6-6-6-18 timings, not to shabby. 1 FSB higher though and the board will not boot...tRD is the issue.

Tony
06-23-2008, 07:20 AM
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/8GB_1366_blkops.jpg

Im beginning to feel 1600+ 8GB is worthless when I can easy tweak to this. E8400 should do this so easy its untrue...an easy 4.1GHZ with over 10k reads with 8GB...:cool:

4GB (2x2048MB) D/C Kit PN - OCZ3RPR13334GK

And here is the new 1333 EB Reaper heatspreader, 6-5-5-22 at 1333, ubber bin Micron with the ability to run 8GB on a board

http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/products/memory/b/ReaperDDR3.jpg (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_pc3_10666_enhanced_bandwidth_reaper_hpc)

Click the pic for the product link.

Stability test:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/tony/Blackops%20testing/stability_8GB.png

Praz
06-23-2008, 07:33 AM
Very nice results Tony. :up:

eva2000
06-23-2008, 07:35 AM
Nice so that's new 1333 EB reaper the one with thinner heatsinks ? thickness wise old and new reaper difference is ?

Tony
06-23-2008, 09:09 AM
Nice so that's new 1333 EB reaper the one with thinner heatsinks ? thickness wise old and new reaper difference is ?

1333EB Reaper X has NO way of getting 4 to fit in a board, I moaned at the office as this is some of our best micron based memory, doing high speeds and tight timings low down...the best of both worlds ;)

So Ryan agreed to let me bring a standard Reaper version to the table, boards will fit 4 modules but its still a premium part ;)

I bet with 4 of the new EB's I may have seen 6-6-5-18 or even 6-5-5-18 at 1333 which would be damn fast. I am already hitting the tRD limit at 455FSB so timings are all I can play with, 6-5-5- may have pushed me to 7K in memtest86+

Tony
06-23-2008, 09:26 AM
Just a side note, Im trying to get 1600 8GB stable and its not going to be easy at the mo, BUT I can tell you its no where near as fast as what i showed above using 6-6-6- and high CPU fsb ;)

best I saw in memtest was 6200MB/s at 1600 7-7-6-22 where I was rocking 6800MB/s using the above settings.

It pays to test and tweak thats for sure.

GTFouts
06-23-2008, 10:48 AM
Indeed Tony, why bother with 1600 if I can get those 1333 numbers. I have no problem with that, provided I can get all 4 sticks stable. This is the issue I am most wishing for. Perhaps I can get mine to work with those settings, I dont know being that its platinum 1600 and not reaper 1333, but I'll sure give it a go. I'm not here to fight about all this, I want to help in any way I can being I have the setup for it. If you can get it working on your end, and then help me to get it working on my end, not only will it make me incredibly happy, but I think it will show people that there is alot of effort to get this all to work together and properly, and also calm them alot knowing that they wont have to spend yet more money on yet more memory. IMO I believe that is really the root issue. Please feel free to abuse my memory and system for the betterment of OCZ compatability with the Blackops.

Tony
06-23-2008, 01:19 PM
Indeed Tony, why bother with 1600 if I can get those 1333 numbers. I have no problem with that, provided I can get all 4 sticks stable. This is the issue I am most wishing for. Perhaps I can get mine to work with those settings, I dont know being that its platinum 1600 and not reaper 1333, but I'll sure give it a go. I'm not here to fight about all this, I want to help in any way I can being I have the setup for it. If you can get it working on your end, and then help me to get it working on my end, not only will it make me incredibly happy, but I think it will show people that there is alot of effort to get this all to work together and properly, and also calm them alot knowing that they wont have to spend yet more money on yet more memory. IMO I believe that is really the root issue. Please feel free to abuse my memory and system for the betterment of OCZ compatability with the Blackops.

I will get some pics of the bios, skews will be more system specific than a done and dusted thing so you are going to need to tweak.

I am going to be honest with you I did minimal tweaking, top 2 skews were +1 NB to 1.6V, Vdimm to 1.8V and CPU what ever it needed to be stable. 455FSBx9 with which ever ratio gave the ram speed you see above ( I forgot being honest but have it saved as a profile) Overall I wanted an uncomplicated setup and this proved to be just the ticket.

I have 1600EB also, 2 of the modules actually perform a lot better than the other 2, infact the slower pair are actually a lot slower so this would be a good test to see if I can get the 8GB working like this 1333 Reaper 6-6-6- kit ;)

Man I wish I had the new 1333EB Reaper kits here, highest bin Micron and the thought of 8GB at 6-5-5-18 at 1333 is sure temping if you dial it in correctly.

HDCHOPPER
06-24-2008, 01:23 AM
Tony you ROCK man !

spikerules
06-24-2008, 08:50 AM
Well done Tony! Keep up the good work and good on OCZ for hiring such a bright guy! Maybe Foxconn should snatch you up!

GTFouts
06-24-2008, 02:46 PM
I have been trying for many days to get my 4 sticks of OCZ 2GB Platinum 1600 to work and I am here to say, It Beat Me Bad!

But thats OK! Saaya said that 8GB was a serious stress on the NB and it will have a very difficult time handeling all that memory. He is 100% correct IMO, at least for now! I am confident they will get it straightened out in the near future.

So I took out 2 sticks and decided to see if I could get 4GB working. I set the Vcore to 1.55, multiplier to x10, strap to 1:3, FSB to 444, NB to 1.64 Dram to 1.8, mem timings to BY SPD and that was ALL I did. No GTL's, DLL's, Gains or anything else. And on the FIRST 4GB boot........

BAM!!! DESKTOP!!!

I couldnt believe my eyes, but being the skeptic I am I said ok, lets see if you can run a simple prg like CPUz. IT DID!! I said, hmmm alright, how about something that will tax you a tiny bit like Everest, IT DID!! Well, now I'm smiling but still determined to crash it so I said, ok Pal, run the mem test, I know you'll fail then!! Did it fail?...HELL NO!!! Granted, it's not 100% stable yet due to absolutely no tweaking, but it pretty close I would say. Check out these numbers and remember, this is just the first boot. I am actually posting this from the first boot, grinning ear to ear!

HDCHOPPER
06-25-2008, 01:34 AM
quadzilla :slobber:is still pushing the knife's edge :up:

between your killer comp and the BlackOps ( with a little more mature bios ) oughtta kick a$$

Tony
06-25-2008, 03:26 AM
GTFouts

Set 2T, 7-6-6-18 seeing as you are at 1333 and try PF7 to start then 6 if its ok. If this proves fine lower CAS to 6 and test again. Finally start bringing down tRFC to dial more speed in.

If after you get it all tweaked out then go for 1N again and see if it holds.

GTFouts
06-25-2008, 08:55 AM
This is the best I can do Tony. If i start lowering tRFC, it starts to slow the memory down. It does not like CR of 1T at all, wont even get to the desktop. Probably has to do with skews and such, but I really don't understand them and what they actually control.

I had to drop down to x9 because x10 was not stable at all. I even went to 1.65 Vcore and it just started to become a little more stable, but thats just getting too high and I did not like the temps. Right now its rock solid in OCCT and Prime95 with the way I have it set. 450 is as high as it lets me go before the thing starts flaking out. So right now I have:

Vcore 1.587
Multi x9
FSB 450
strap 1:3
Vdimm 1.91
NB 1.71
no GTL's, DLL's or anything

and the following:

saaya
06-26-2008, 02:23 AM
very nice gtfouts! :toast:
are you using memtest at all?
its way faster than booting into windows all the time, so thats what me and probably tony and other mem guys use.

GTFouts
06-26-2008, 02:35 AM
very nice gtfouts! :toast:
are you using memtest at all?
its way faster than booting into windows all the time, so thats what me and probably tony and other mem guys use.

Do you mean Memset 3.5? I have it installed but havent used it yet. I will play with it today some. I have never used it before so I have a question about the 2 check boxes at the bottom. Do you leave Lock mchbar and Auto checked or do you uncheck them?

I am assuming that you change stuff around and then if you like what it does you go into the bios and hard set it, is this correct?

spikerules
06-26-2008, 08:33 AM
400FSB
9x Muliplier
1.4 333 strap (1600MHz)
Vcore 1.55
Vdimm Voltage 1.64v
1.5 NB
Auto spd

All ok loading into windows with the above until I run Prime95 or Everest etc. When I up voltage of Vcore, NB or even the RAM I dont get a load at all. When I try and use my own spd setup, I get nothing. I have tried 8-8-8-22, 8-8-8-20, 5-6-6-18 etc


Its getting annoying:( Anyone got any suggestions? I think I may have tried everything?

GTFouts
06-26-2008, 10:25 AM
I never could get 1600 to get stable. Could get into windows but that was about it, couldnt run very much. So I dropped back to 1333 and it works very well.

Maybe you should for now Spike until they work on the bios some more. Thats what I'm waiting on before I torture 1600 attempts again with OCZ. Just a suggestion is all.

spikerules
06-27-2008, 06:06 AM
I never could get 1600 to get stable. Could get into windows but that was about it, couldnt run very much. So I dropped back to 1333 and it works very well.

Maybe you should for now Spike until they work on the bios some more. Thats what I'm waiting on before I torture 1600 attempts again with OCZ. Just a suggestion is all.

I would if I could change the memory settings and the cpu speed seperately. At the FSB I have atm, 1333 isnt available. Is there a way of getting 1333 with 3.6GHz at 9x400 FSB?

GTFouts
06-27-2008, 06:44 AM
Closest your going to get is 1:3.2 at 416 for 3.7GHz. But I have no idea how well the 3.2 strap works.

spikerules
06-29-2008, 03:16 AM
Closest your going to get is 1:3.2 at 416 for 3.7GHz. But I have no idea how well the 3.2 strap works.

Thats a massive overclock for a chip with a VID of 1.325v! I'm at the max now with 3.6GHz. Tried to get to 3.75GHz just now with 1:3.2 strap but I get blue screen as windows is loading, so I then changed the voltages and get an error reading in the bios. Something like "MP Proccessor error" Clock frequencies have to be the same etc.

If I reduce my CPU speed to something lower and manage 1333 with the memory, would I get better performance overall from what I am getting now?

saaya
06-30-2008, 07:58 PM
Do you mean Memset 3.5? I have it installed but havent used it yet. I will play with it today some. I have never used it before so I have a question about the 2 check boxes at the bottom. Do you leave Lock mchbar and Auto checked or do you uncheck them?

I am assuming that you change stuff around and then if you like what it does you go into the bios and hard set it, is this correct?
nono, i meant memtest, a litle tool you can boot into to run a quick memory test:)

for memset, i always leave the checkbox untouched.
yes, you can save the timings you selected in memset and it will apply them at every bootup. memset doesnt actually go into bios and changes any setting there, it accesses the same registers and pretty much pushes the same buttons on the hardware itself that the BIOS also pushes to enable or disable certain things.



400FSB
9x Muliplier
1.4 333 strap (1600MHz)
Vcore 1.55
Vdimm Voltage 1.64v
1.5 NB
Auto spd

All ok loading into windows with the above until I run Prime95 or Everest etc. When I up voltage of Vcore, NB or even the RAM I dont get a load at all. When I try and use my own spd setup, I get nothing. I have tried 8-8-8-22, 8-8-8-20, 5-6-6-18 etc

Its getting annoying:( Anyone got any suggestions? I think I may have tried everything?whats the highest speed you can get the memory stable at with 777 then? around 1500? what memory slots are you using?
did you adjust any memory timings at all or is it all auto?

im waiting for a set of the ocz 2gb stuff to arrive here so i can do some testing with it and some feedback from our uk guys who are testing 2 kits atm. as soon as i hear of something ill let you guys know.



If I reduce my CPU speed to something lower and manage 1333 with the memory, would I get better performance overall from what I am getting now?depends on what application your referring to, but in general, yes, cpu power > memory power

spikerules
07-03-2008, 09:08 AM
nono, i meant memtest, a litle tool you can boot into to run a quick memory test:)

for memset, i always leave the checkbox untouched.
yes, you can save the timings you selected in memset and it will apply them at every bootup. memset doesnt actually go into bios and changes any setting there, it accesses the same registers and pretty much pushes the same buttons on the hardware itself that the BIOS also pushes to enable or disable certain things.


whats the highest speed you can get the memory stable at with 777 then? around 1500? what memory slots are you using?
did you adjust any memory timings at all or is it all auto?

im waiting for a set of the ocz 2gb stuff to arrive here so i can do some testing with it and some feedback from our uk guys who are testing 2 kits atm. as soon as i hear of something ill let you guys know.

depends on what application your referring to, but in general, yes, cpu power > memory power

Thanks saaya,
Your input would be appreciated when you get your test results with you OCZ memory.

Tony
07-03-2008, 11:41 AM
mr Foxconn here in the UK tells me I have a retail Blackops on the way, once here i will run up the 4GB kits again and see how they do incase my taiwan supplied ES board is any differrent to what you guys get in a retail box.

Saaya, Carl is handling ram requests, if you need some test dimms let him know, he is getting a list together now.

saaya
07-03-2008, 07:57 PM
mr Foxconn here in the UK:lol" ill call him that from now on :D

Saaya, Carl is handling ram requests, if you need some test dimms let him know, he is getting a list together now.
i know carl and already talked to him :)

InToGraphics
03-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Was this issue ever resolved with a BIOS update ?

My experiences say that it is not : Help needed to stabilise 8gb OCZ3P20004GK on Foxconn BlackOps (http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=353747#post353747)

ragingclue
03-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Is this something I should consider doing with my OCZ FLex EX PC3-16000 2x2GB set? I'm not having trouble booting, but approaching 2000MHz @ 8-8-8-30 is giving me fits....

overclocking101
12-09-2009, 12:36 PM
are these fies necesary for the Reaper 2X1GB 1333mhz 6-6-6@1.75v?? mine only read a spd of 533mhz on cpu-z but are labeled 1333mhz reapers i feel a bit riped off here