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FatAlbert
06-12-2008, 01:52 AM
all right ;)

new thread for some new bios for destroyer :D

0512

the best bios I've ever test :up:

10/10 (for now, because I haven't phenom when it was on borad)

+ high htt (even 380mhz)
+ high voltages
+ fast boot
+ quantum bios (0424 hasn't got it)


0529

my filings about it

2/10

+ it's new
+ it's work

- long booting time
- low htt (only one time board boot with htt300mhz, with phenom is really low)
- no nb multiplier (big - because if you want ocing with htt)
- no cpu multiplier (up) with 9600BE
- some times boards is booting even 30 seconds ;/

what I want form you in new bios:


nb multies
unlock cpu multi (if on board is 96be)
high htt just like in the 0512 :D


in the close future will be little updated about the 0424

LardArse
06-12-2008, 07:43 AM
Will post new bios tmr

saaya
06-12-2008, 07:06 PM
thanks for sharing your findings fatalbert! :toast:

LardArse
06-12-2008, 10:51 PM
new bios fatalbert
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=MCP72A01_1.0_BIOS_79CF1P03_Rlease.zip

saaya
06-13-2008, 01:02 AM
lol, that was fast :D

FatAlbert
06-13-2008, 02:53 AM
thanks, tomorrow I'll do some tests ;)

ps

I've bought new rams :D

edit

what about the tests of retail version ?

Planet
06-13-2008, 06:59 AM
What are the fixes in the new bios Peter?

saaya
06-16-2008, 10:41 PM
let me check with peter...
couldnt get any details, but the last one has improved cold and warmboot paths and some other minor bug fixes.
sorry i couldnt get more details...

FatAlbert
06-17-2008, 04:32 AM
0602

:down::shrug::shakes:

the worse bios I've ever tested.

+ it's new
+ it's work

- safe mode is running when I do HTT269+ (273 and no boot, freeze, reset)
- sometimes mb boot fast but sometimes boot is very long
- can't overlock my 1620 more than 34xx (34xx for a validation)

My filings about the board it's very bad with another new bios. Now even the 0512 doesn't work as good as couple weeks ago.

I'm little scare about this bios and his work with phenom 9600BE :(

I don't know what I should think about 0602.

edit

this bios has "htt hole" 273 isn't work but the 300 it's fine, later even htt350 is working but 360 not.

0602 has regulation of nb/cpu multi, I like it. For more tests you have to wait, but don't think there won't be extreme scores.

saaya
06-18-2008, 11:18 PM
so after all would you consider it a better bios than 0512?
about 0512 not working as well anymore... thats rather unlikely... maybe you didnt use exactly the same settings?
or maybe the settings you used work sometimes better and sometimes worse?
i heard this about k10 a lot, one day a certain speed is stable, the next day the same settings dont work anymore :(

FatAlbert
06-19-2008, 01:22 AM
today i'll see what I can do with 0602 and phenom. Maybe 0602 will be better choice for x2 ;) (i've got one nice cpu, this one (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=305582) :D>thx milans<)

When I was tested 0512 month ago and couple days ago I used exactly the same settings. Settings which I use when I testing max htt it's always the same.

about k10 and speed.

I think it's true, 2 days ago 96be (thx svende) working with 2500mhz on cool but yesterday I've seen blue screen of death (windows installation is ok).

yesterday night I was thinking about my new rams (corsair dominator 8500) and in my opinion they have tightly spd :(

but I have got 1gb of crucial lanfest and I test with it and nothing change (the same settings as always).

I was trying to do some 3d scores but my graphics card is very low end vga (gf 6600 ddr2) :(

who send me better vga ? :D

saaya
06-19-2008, 02:55 AM
wow thats a really nice 6000+ for sure! :D
just buy a new vga? :P

FatAlbert
06-19-2008, 03:56 AM
wow thats a really nice 6000+ for sure! :D
just buy a new vga? :P


I want to buy but I haven't got money ;)

I 17 years old and people don't have job for me ;/

LardArse
06-24-2008, 07:46 AM
http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/79CF1P06.BIN

new bios for destroyer
out of office cnat try this yet...
awdflash xxx.bin /wb

FatAlbert
07-04-2008, 02:23 AM
does destroyer will be work with phenom 9950 ? 140 TDP, 2.6Ghz

saaya
07-04-2008, 03:00 AM
of course, its designed for ocing so the PWM should have plenty of AMP headroom! :D
let me check with the engineers... yepp, it supports 140W TDP cpus easily ^^

FatAlbert
07-04-2008, 03:02 AM
great to heard that ;)

Mosfet321
11-03-2008, 07:21 PM
excuse my english, greetings from Mexico, i would like to know if someone could provide me the bios 0512 for the Foxconn Destroyer, I'm just testing the motherboard thanks to Foxconn.

I hope can help me.

FatAlbert
11-04-2008, 06:29 AM
it will be little problem I haven't got 0512 and 0512 doesn't has nb multi :(

maybe saaya has :P

Mosfet321
11-05-2008, 07:54 PM
ok thanks :) follow in my search for without NB multi are complicated. :shrug:

Lipfip
11-07-2008, 01:38 AM
IŽam using the P12 with an X2 5400+ BlackEdition(Brisbane), but I would like to upgrade soon to the new Deneb. Is therefor a new Bios in work?

FatAlbert
11-07-2008, 04:05 AM
fox's engineers tolds saayas is deneb can work on destroyer but "you know amd "- saaya ;) :D

Aura89
11-08-2008, 05:42 PM
fox's engineers tolds saayas is deneb can work on destroyer but "you know amd "- saaya ;) :D

i hope debeb will work on the destroyer, if it doesn't i'll be sad, i don't feel like buying another high end motherboard :(

Lord_Hades
12-03-2008, 04:37 PM
New Bios For The Destroyer: 79CF1P13

Description: Solved 1T/2T item function fail.

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/support/downloads_detail.aspx?ID=en-us0002331

aNNixP
12-15-2008, 11:55 AM
Is Deneb Support now confirmed for the Destroyer ? :)

Im thinking about gettin me this baby for the upcoming Deneb.

FatAlbert
12-15-2008, 12:22 PM
I think it's not a secret :D

yes deneb runs :D

aNNixP
12-15-2008, 01:20 PM
Perfect :D

Runs good or only runs ? :D

FatAlbert
12-15-2008, 01:36 PM
I know nothing about it :(

aNNixP
12-15-2008, 01:46 PM
A bit offtopic but i thought there ist this 4-in-1 Quantum-Cooler attached ?? I just saw that only the Heatpipe is included :(

Why not like the BLackops the whole thing like water and ln2 chipset Cooler ?

FatAlbert
12-15-2008, 02:06 PM
because on amd when nb is under ln2 overclocking is lover than air/wc/fwc and mem controller is in cpu not in nb so nb doesn't have to be cooled to -50C like it's in intel's (nvidia's chipsets for intel) chipsets.

aNNixP
12-15-2008, 02:28 PM
But it would be nice to have for the Destroyer ;) especially that optional Water Block.
Is it possible to get if directly from Foxconn ?

FatAlbert
12-15-2008, 02:44 PM
But it would be nice to have for the Destroyer ;) especially that optional Water Block.
Is it possible to get if directly from Foxconn ?

what you want directly from Foxconn? waterblock ? nb pot ? ;)

I don't catch what you mean :rolleyes:

aNNixP
12-15-2008, 02:57 PM
The 4in1 Cooler which you can find on the Foxconn Blackops. It should be on the Destroyer as well, but it has be canceld... i dont know why exactly.

Sry about my poor english :D

FatAlbert
12-15-2008, 03:46 PM
tell me somthing ;)

where on this board you use the 4in1 cooler ?

between first and second pcie x16 slots ? [;

picture one

http://download.pctuner.net/upload/results/20080614225026_black.jpg

picture two

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3176/img3253copyrg6.jpg

on destroyer you can't mount it. I think destroyer never had to have 4in1 cooler. ;) and destroyer's cooler even doesn't has mount for watercooling, only extra cooling :D

but it's imo :D

aNNixP
12-16-2008, 12:53 AM
Ok you got me :D

OverClocker_gr
12-21-2008, 08:31 PM
does anyone know anything about this? Saaya?

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/985/dscn0603ff6.jpg

Is there a vcore mod for over 1.8v @ cpu?

thanx

MusicIsMyLife
12-21-2008, 11:46 PM
Is there a vcore mod for over 1.8v @ cpu?

thanx

I talked to saaya about vcore mod, too. But up to now there is no solution. There is a mod but saaya said that it doesnŽt work (because of this I didnŽt try myself).

Because Deneb loves cold and high voltages he is aware of this and as far as I know they are working on it. :yepp:

FatAlbert
12-22-2008, 02:42 AM
yeah, I talked with sayaa about it too ;)

is anyone here has new bios ?

my latest is 10/10/08 :(

Prozium
12-22-2008, 06:11 AM
on http://www.foxconnchannel.com (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/support/downloads.aspx) theres one from 11/25/08

"Solved 1T/2T item function fail."

I'm still trying to get my board running, so I cant say anything about that BIOS.(or any other one for this mobo)

OverClocker_gr
12-22-2008, 07:28 AM
I talked to saaya about vcore mod, too. But up to now there is no solution. There is a mod but saaya said that it doesnŽt work (because of this I didnŽt try myself).

Because Deneb loves cold and high voltages he is aware of this and as far as I know they are working on it. :yepp:

come on saaya :cool::cool::cool:

FatAlbert
12-22-2008, 09:08 AM
I haven't seen sayaa from one or two month :(

Lord_Hades
12-24-2008, 10:41 AM
on http://www.foxconnchannel.com (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/support/downloads.aspx) theres one from 11/25/08

"Solved 1T/2T item function fail."

I'm still trying to get my board running, so I cant say anything about that BIOS.(or any other one for this mobo)

I Have Flashed This Bios P13. There Is NO Change That I Can See From P12. Bios P13 Runs Fine As Far As i Can Tell.......

CamraMaan
01-15-2009, 07:57 AM
Any updates from anyone with the Destroyer...? (I know, I'm digging this thread up.)

On the topic of cooling the chipsets, would it be beneficial to use one of the HR-05 coolers on the NB? Assuming one can be properly mounted on there... that I don't know. Would there be a benefit towards better OCing? I'll be getting mine soon, and if better NB cooling would be a benefit, then I'll use the Enzotech SLF-1 for the SB, and probably make a water block for the mosfet (this is a WC system; I'd use the stock mosfet copper plate and solder on a proper pipe... we used to do the same with the VRM on old WC'd dual xeon PC-DL Deluxe boards). But the NB cooling "solution" is where I'm stuck... I mean would this be a benefit in the first place?

matttehman
01-15-2009, 09:21 AM
Not alot for me to update you with man. :shrug:
But if you wish to share your overclocking results I am game for that.
I haven't yet pushed any extra voltage through my Phenom 2 940BE, but I am able to get to 3.7 ghz. with basic overclocking. This weekend I am defienately going to push this board further and see what I can do.

I am going to try a new bios and see what I can get. Fat Albert mentioned hitting 389 on the Fsb with bios p12. That is ridiculous, and I don't know if P2 will do that, but that would be sweet.

Also, I am learning about settings in the destroyer bios still. And I hope the new bios will have some nb settings for me to play with.

At the time i am still using the stock cooler, I have the extra heatpipe mounted. And I have the board mounted on the plexi-glass thing. So I have a huge "wind-machine" box fan blowing directly on it. A quick google search returned 4,750 CFM. :rofl:

gtgreat
01-21-2009, 04:35 PM
hi
can you tell me the bios version for destroyer with nb multi. mine doesnt have that setting.(9950 be)

MusicIsMyLife
01-22-2009, 12:46 AM
hi
can you tell me the bios version for destroyer with nb multi. mine doesnt have that setting.(9950 be)

Go to Quantum BIOS and you should see an option called 'CPU And NB HT Speed'. This option should theoretically adjust ht-multiplier and nb-multiplier at the same time. But unfortunately this option doesn't work properly up to now and you can only adjust ht-link-multiplier.

For high nb-speed you need high reference clock up to now. But FOXCONN is working on that issue. :yepp:

gtgreat
01-22-2009, 01:55 PM
i tried that before.seems like that multi adjust only the htt. i will wait for new bios.the problem is that i cant raise the mem speed more than 460(920Mhz) because it doesnt even post if the NB freq goes higher than 2400Mhz(currently 2375Mhz).so now i have 12.5x238 2375Mhz both htt and NB vcore 1.30V very stable.

MusicIsMyLife
01-23-2009, 12:23 AM
seems like that multi adjust only the htt.

It doesn't only seems so, it does. That's what I said in my post above. :D

Saaya and FOXCONN know this issue and they are working on that. :yepp: Saaya sent me a new beta bios and I will try it in a few days. Maybe it works with this version, let's wait and see. :yepp:

matttehman
01-23-2009, 09:38 AM
Looking forward to hearing how that goes music! If it works I'll have to shoot a pm to saaya.

Prozium
01-23-2009, 04:09 PM
It doesn't only seems so, it does. That's what I said in my post above. :D

Saaya and FOXCONN know this issue and they are working on that. :yepp: Saaya sent me a new beta bios and I will try it in a few days. Maybe it works with this version, let's wait and see. :yepp:

cant wait to find out if it works.

Terwin
01-23-2009, 06:31 PM
Is P14 the latest bios?

msuguy71
01-23-2009, 08:46 PM
that is the latest on the foxconn site.

Has anyone gotten the P14 bios to actually flash? I just put together my Destroyer with a new Phenom II 940 and the P12 bios reports unknown CPU and a dangerous overclocking condition that the bios automatically changed to defaults during POST (I think it does this when I turn on C1E support and SPD enabled ram).

Anyway, I load up the flash program and the proper flash file off a bootable CD and it says Please Wait! and just sits there forever (longest time is 30 minutes). I reboot and the bios was not flashed and is still P12.

I tried forcing the bios to use bios 1 with the jumper but that did not change anything. The bios write protect is not enabled either.

Anyone know what the problem could be? I am going to install Windows XP on it (cause I can't get Windows Beta 7 installed on it either - keeps saying bad boot disk or something after it installs) and see if I can update the bios through windows.

Terwin
01-23-2009, 09:52 PM
P14 works just fine for me. Running 19x200 at the moment 940BE. I flashed using Fox LiveUpdate.

msuguy71
01-24-2009, 08:21 PM
I got the bios to update through windows. I also got windows installed...had a bad cable.

Prozium
01-27-2009, 12:10 AM
It doesn't only seems so, it does. That's what I said in my post above. :D

Saaya and FOXCONN know this issue and they are working on that. :yepp: Saaya sent me a new beta bios and I will try it in a few days. Maybe it works with this version, let's wait and see. :yepp:

so MusicIsMyLife, did you try it? :poke:


waiting has never been my strongest point.:lol:

MusicIsMyLife
01-27-2009, 03:24 AM
so MusicIsMyLife, did you try it? :poke:


Sorry, up to now I didn't have time. I will try as soon as possible. :)

ElixXx
01-27-2009, 07:42 AM
P14? latest on foxconn site is P13 rite?

EDIT: well, odd.. on the china foxconn site i found the P14.. but not on the Global site.. weak...

EDIT2: Well flashing this P14, makes the board NOT want to use my 940 BE.. i just get a "BEEEP" then nothing more.. installing my 5400 be systems boots and works as usual..

Prozium
01-27-2009, 11:35 PM
P14? latest on foxconn site is P13 rite?

EDIT: well, odd.. on the china foxconn site i found the P14.. but not on the Global site.. weak...

EDIT2: Well flashing this P14, makes the board NOT want to use my 940 BE.. i just get a "BEEEP" then nothing more.. installing my 5400 be systems boots and works as usual..
it should be up on the global site.
I just went to http://www.foxconnchannel.com went to support -> Downloads then searched for destroyer downloads using "Search by Product Model" not that I had to because it was in the "newest downloads" section.

says version 79CF1P14.

its weird the 940 is not working now. the BIOS just added AM3 support as far as I can tell.


Sorry, up to now I didn't have time. I will try as soon as possible. :)
OK, I'll try to wait, lol

ElixXx
01-27-2009, 11:43 PM
I tryed searching for it. And alas no P14 just the "BIOS File Destroyer Solved 1T/2T item function fail. 79CF1P13 688KB 11/25/2008"

Tryed to flash the P14 several times, all with succsess. But i get BEEEEP with the 940 installed.. :confused: Chaning BIOS to chip two, board boots with the 940 installed, think its P11 that the board came with....

Terwin
01-28-2009, 01:25 AM
P14 works just fine with my 940BE. Got it almost to 4ghz on air with that bios.
vvv

Prozium
01-28-2009, 01:32 AM
direct to the DL page for p14 on the global sitehttp://www.foxconnchannel.com/support/downloads_detail.aspx?ID=en-us0002445

ElixXx
01-28-2009, 02:20 AM
http://power-swe.kicks-ass.net/upload/lol.jpg

matttehman
01-28-2009, 06:32 AM
Do it fellas! I've been putting off pushing this board any further untill i get all my WC set-up in. But I need to push it a little farther and see what I can get out of it with all this cool air we have been getting here. :up: I'm thinking when I get my WC setup in, it would be fun to run a temporary loop with my radiator in the window suckin up all that cool air. :ROTF:

Prozium
01-28-2009, 10:25 AM
ElixXx, I dot know whats wrong with you computer, but that link works for me on both of my computers and the one I am on now (at school) so I did the last thing I can think of.

I downloaded it and then uploaded it to my fileshareing site, heres the link...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/12/18/1652109/79CF1P14.zip

ElixXx
01-28-2009, 11:09 AM
ive downloaded it via chineese site, also my bud got it for me... non of my computer finds it. Just list the P13 as the latest bios.. Odd..

The P14 bios still dosent work for my 940BE, ive contacted support, lets hope for a quick answer..

Thanks for your effort tho, appreciated :)

EDIT: Aparently, the P14 bios dont like any of my RAM stick. Tested a X3 8750Be with same rams ( gskill pk pc8500) i run the 5400+ with, and no go. changed to a pair of patriot viper PC9200. Boots and works... The 940 also boots using the patriot memory...

:(

Prozium
01-29-2009, 02:53 AM
ive downloaded it via chineese site, also my bud got it for me... non of my computer finds it. Just list the P13 as the latest bios.. Odd..

The P14 bios still dosent work for my 940BE, ive contacted support, lets hope for a quick answer..

Thanks for your effort tho, appreciated :)

EDIT: Aparently, the P14 bios dont like any of my RAM stick. Tested a X3 8750Be with same rams ( gskill pk pc8500) i run the 5400+ with, and no go. changed to a pair of patriot viper PC9200. Boots and works... The 940 also boots using the patriot memory...

:(

I'm glad you got it figured out, but its odd that the ram now doesn't work. I wonder what they changed to make the ram not function right?

ElixXx
01-29-2009, 06:30 AM
I can only get the ram to work @ dd800 stable,man what is this :D i know remeber why i went from 680i to P35 back in the day :P

This board is bogus.. :(

Also one other odd thing is, when i boot upp OS, the board just reboots. Booting Vista, booting done, BAM! reboot, booting, booting done, BAM reboot. hahahah....

-Radiant-
02-08-2009, 01:30 AM
I use a beta bios, and it works fine with the P II :D

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1495/38mjpgsp5.th.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=38mjpgsp5.jpg)
3,8 is stable @ 1.34

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9148/42pirh0.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42pirh0.jpg)
max. 4.2

ElixXx
02-08-2009, 11:10 AM
i got this from tech support a few days ago.


Thank you for supporting Foxconn products
We will test this bios with 940BE, since before the test department didn't test the new release processor.
any update,please keep the eyes on the websites.

Best Regards,

Foxconn Tech Support

saaay wat?

Prozium
02-10-2009, 02:53 PM
Sorry, up to now I didn't have time. I will try as soon as possible. :)

try it yet?

MusicIsMyLife
02-12-2009, 06:39 AM
try it yet?

Unfortunately I have to say no. :(

I was busy reviewing AMDs AM3 and now I have to write some articles for a german print magazin.

I hope to test it next week (of course with am3-cpu :D).

-Radiant-
02-14-2009, 01:27 PM
flashed Bios P14 today...and suprise, suprise it's the same like my "beta":D

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/15/pi4250ms1.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pi4250ms1.jpg)
i can't adjust the NB Frequency :down: the multi in the bios doesn't work...

jbua5150
02-16-2009, 12:48 AM
Hello all, I just purchased the Foxconn Destroyer with the Phenom II 940, and 2x2Gb OCZ Reaper PC2-8500. My question is will this system boot with the BIOS that comes on the MB stock? I really hope that there is a way to get this up and running stock, then flash BIOS in windows?!?! I am not very profecient on "BIOS Flashing". Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I currently have a DFI Expert (s939) that uses a similar AWARD BIOS, and was able to flash the BIOS using something called winflash. Is the process similar?

Aura89
02-16-2009, 01:57 PM
Hello all, I just purchased the Foxconn Destroyer with the Phenom II 940, and 2x2Gb OCZ Reaper PC2-8500. My question is will this system boot with the BIOS that comes on the MB stock? I really hope that there is a way to get this up and running stock, then flash BIOS in windows?!?! I am not very profecient on "BIOS Flashing". Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. I currently have a DFI Expert (s939) that uses a similar AWARD BIOS, and was able to flash the BIOS using something called winflash. Is the process similar?

if you download FoxLiveUpdate, it'll look for updates for your bios and update them easily, it's actually one of the easiest boards i've come across to update the bios with

jbua5150
02-16-2009, 07:11 PM
thanks for the reply. What I am trying to ask is, will the 940 work in the destroyer "out of the box"? Do i have to buy a cheap am2 cpu to install into the MB to be able to update the BIOS for the 940?

saaya
02-17-2009, 02:36 AM
itll work just fine with any older bios, it just wont be recongized as x940 :)

jbua5150
02-18-2009, 08:51 AM
Thanks, also Newegg states that this MB supports 8Gb of RAM, however on Foxconn's website it says 16Gb. Which is correct?
Will the 940 support 8Gb of ddr1066? Or will it have to run @ ddr800?
Thanks again!

Aura89
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
itll work just fine with any older bios, it just wont be recongized as x940 :)

heyyy i haven't seen saaya post for quite some time

demonkevy666
02-18-2009, 06:47 PM
Thanks, also Newegg states that this MB supports 8Gb of RAM, however on Foxconn's website it says 16Gb. Which is correct?
Will the 940 support 8Gb of ddr1066? Or will it have to run @ ddr800?
Thanks again!

Older bios supports 8gbs newer ones support 16Gb.]
it's mentioned somewhere on here I think.

-Radiant-
02-20-2009, 02:17 AM
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/512180.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=512180)
4.4@air on the destroyer

msimax
03-02-2009, 08:49 AM
any news on nb adjustments

Aura89
03-02-2009, 10:21 PM
any news on nb adjustments

none that i know of :(

and lame i just added myself a avatar and it's now showing up, wonder why....

FatAlbert
03-03-2009, 09:55 AM
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/512180.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=512180)
4.4@air on the destroyer

I like you :)

-Radiant-
03-03-2009, 10:11 PM
I like you :)

best i can do
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/512373.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=512373)

msimax
03-04-2009, 01:25 AM
i guess i was gonna use this board for our gtx295 sli test but if it cant adjust the nb then it sucks

silbluever
03-04-2009, 04:41 PM
:DWell it would be nice if you people at the foxx would PLEASE fix this bios issue with the multi on NB not working. I REALLY digg this board "Destroyer" and know that my 8750BE would be able to shine if I could drop the NB HTT down a few.

AWOS74
03-08-2009, 08:00 AM
missing it too :(

and i dunno why aegis panel isnt working for me...

silbluever
03-08-2009, 08:30 PM
Dont feel bad the Aegis panel didn't work for me ether. This mobo is sooooo easy to clock with except for the NB multi.

jbua5150
03-14-2009, 01:08 AM
WAKE UP FOXCONN!! I love this board, and my overclocks seem very stable however the lack of ANY semblance of support has convinced me to never buy foxconn again. No NB multi+ no Aegis panel+ no fixes=TERRIBLE

rumpel01
03-16-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm using the Destroyer now for about two weeks and I choosed the board because of its great layout and excellent quality. I also looked over the problem of the malfunction of the CPU-NB Multi, therefore I was convinced that Foxconn would fix this problem in a couple of time.

While working, especially overclocking with the Destroyer and a Phenom II 940 I encountered some issues that also should be fixed:

1. Raising the Reference Clock in the bios above 250Mhz results in unprecise Clocks in fact, due to CPU-Z. 250Mhz does effect correct 2250Mhz HT and NB Clock. 251Mhz in contrast results in weird Clocks like 249.1Mhz Ref., 2241,9 HT and NB, additonally, the CPU Clock also doesn't match the bios clock. 252Mhz is identically (!) with the 251Mhz-Option, while 253Mhz in Bios results in a CPU-Z-Clock of 252.1Mhz.

2. Setting the nforce780a SATA-Controller to AHCI Mode make it impossible to check the SMART-attributes, they are simply invisible, just like the temperatures of the Hard Drives. Additionally, while in AHCI mode, all Hard Disks are "invisible" in the bios. Is this a chipset-related issue or rather a problem of the bios?

Besides these problems I like the board a lot and I hope the next bios will fix the most annoying bugs.

CobraXP
03-19-2009, 09:55 AM
I own one. Love it. I wish they fix the NB issue soooon.

matttehman
04-21-2009, 07:20 AM
Just out of curiosity is there a newer bios then p14 available, Beta or retail?

*Bump for necro-support? :rofl:

Prozium
04-22-2009, 12:11 AM
ya, I also would like to know if there's a new BIOS some ware.

I have never spent so much on a mother board before this one, and would love for every thing to actually work like it is supposed to.

silbluever
04-22-2009, 10:30 PM
This soooo sucks balls. i love this mobo but man how frickin hard could it be after all this time has gone by to fix the NB multi unless Fox is going to come out with a new board to replace this one. It might come with the 980a chipset

matttehman
04-23-2009, 12:10 PM
Even if they do come out with a "replacement" that is another $200+ I would seriously have to consider purchasing. What is sad is that this board never really took off due to the phenom 1's sucking. Well the PII's came out and then this board/chipset showed it's true potential.

But apparently the damage was already done, sells were too low, and the economy was just too bad to support the board after the release. :shrug:

It's a great board imo, but the nb issue really limits certain peoples oc abilities, and that is just ridiculous for an enthusiast mobo.

You can have the dogtags and plexi mobo tray, I want my nb setting!

CobraXP
04-24-2009, 10:12 AM
Even if they do come out with a "replacement" that is another $200+ I would seriously have to consider purchasing. What is sad is that this board never really took off due to the phenom 1's sucking. Well the PII's came out and then this board/chipset showed it's true potential.

But apparently the damage was already done, sells were too low, and the economy was just too bad to support the board after the release. :shrug:

It's a great board imo, but the nb issue really limits certain peoples oc abilities, and that is just ridiculous for an enthusiast mobo.

You can have the dogtags and plexi mobo tray, I want my nb setting!

HAHA. they can also have the 120mm fan w/ the weird bracket. Love the board but the NB issues is a big set back for me... Foxconn needs to fix this before its too late

CobraXP
04-28-2009, 10:21 AM
OK new bios prob. It could be me on this one. I did this all during a long lunch got busy and left it alone. I installed a PII X4 955BE. It only showed up at 800MHz. I have the P14 bios which says "AM3" support. I tried clocking everything manually. Am I doing something wrong??? I will mess with it when I get out of work. Thx.

CobraXP
04-28-2009, 11:43 AM
OK. I spoke to someone at Foxconn in Cali. He was very nice and helpful. He told me that he would call HQ regarding the bios update and email my company back on this. I am hoping this gets resolved soon cause my company has sold these boards mainly for the AMD/Nvidia setups. I like the product alot and would like to stick with it for awhile like I have with OCZ ram and Evga videocards. I will keep you guys updated.

XmikeX
04-28-2009, 01:30 PM
hohoho.. about time there was some discussion here on something -other- than bloodrage.

:)

XmX

CobraXP
04-28-2009, 02:47 PM
Yeah I was hoping to test out 3xGTX275s this weekend with the P2 955. This is what I have going on the 940 with 2xGTX275.... my customers dig the new Phenoms with Nvidia cards....

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/741/p2259442709pii94038ghz2.jpg

3.8Ghz...

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1268/p2252042709p294036ghz2x.jpg

3.6GHz not much different.

CobraXP
04-30-2009, 05:23 AM
Anyone have any updates??????????????

Prozium
05-01-2009, 06:19 PM
I went back and forth with Foxconn's online support and this is the last message from them and the last message I sent to them...

"Dear ****,

We guess there is a little misunderstanding about the option "CPU And NB HT Speed", the item should be "CPU-NB HT Link speed" that refers to the HT link speed from CPU to NB.
It will not change CPU clock but the HT link.

Best regards,

Foxconn Technical Support"

"so what your telling me is, there is currently no way to change the north bridge multiplier? if so, could you possibly ask you're BIOS engineers to some how add that function to the next BIOS? There are quite a few of us Destroyer owners who would like to be able to change the North bridge multiplier. 2009/04/25"

I have yet to get a response from that last message....how ever the original message was responded to with in 24 hours. I guess when you ask them to change something, there not too interested with you anymore. :rolleyes:

CobraXP
05-01-2009, 06:39 PM
I might go to the Asus Crosshair II but I have customers I sold a few destroyers to. I am really going to get screwed but I might rma them all to the lol. Bios says AM3 cpu support and the 955BE is an AM3.

rumpel01
05-02-2009, 04:13 AM
Beside the NB-multiplierproblem there are still other issues to resolve by Foxconn which have already been described in this thread. A new bios ist definitely necessary and after almost three months of waiting very late. It confuses me a little bit of reading of new beta-Bioses for some X58-boards every second week and on the other side nothing for all the AMD-boards. In february I prefered the Destroyer instead of the Crosshair II and the M4A79 and I am very close to regret this choice. Sure, Asus is also not the king of customersupport, but you can count on bios-updates and relatively fast fixes for certain major issues. At least for the Enthusiast-Series of boards Foxconn should definitely think about the current state of support.

msimax
05-02-2009, 05:34 AM
i wouldnt buy this motherboard theres no support for it ,no matter how nice it is the bios is still stuck in the past. worst case scenario get the asus m3n deluxe not the crosshair board, bios's are stil popping out for board or get the rebranded 980a:ROTF: still i would get this board. when you have a support thread and ppl have been crying out for this 1 feature and they get ignored its not good

they should just come out and say are board cant do it or our bios engineer's dont know how to emplement it saves a lot of thread posts

CobraXP
05-02-2009, 08:46 AM
I am looking to pick up 5 980a's. 4 for my customers and 1 for my personal. We are removing all Foxconn products from out retail site. We were pushing there products but the economy is too bad for things not to work the way they are supposed to. They described to support AM3 on the last bios update. We had a thread going on there support site were ppl were going off. I will not deal with them again.

Prozium
05-02-2009, 06:28 PM
ya this is defiantly leaving a bad taste in my mouth. (so to speak)I have never spent so much money on a mother board before this one. all my others have been cheap $50 boards...I figured Foxconn was looking good and my cousin just bought a cheap $60 mobo from them and it looked good construction wise and performance wise, so I said F-it I want this setup to last at least 2 years spend the extra money and get a good board. Soon after I got up and running I got into OC'ing. had I not I wouldn't have noticed these issues that have been posted here in this thread. Needless to say I am starting to regret buying this board.

also, I did link the text support to this thread, so they know about it.

CobraXP
05-02-2009, 07:50 PM
Yeah I posted countless times with no reply. Other started to post too with no reply. Its all good. Better to learn now cause I am in the retail business. We did sell a setup with the destroyer but its going to be replaced with the Asus version of the 980a. Like I said... its all good.

rumpel01
05-12-2009, 09:48 AM
At last, today the new P15-Bios has been released. You can find it on http://www.foxconnsupport.com/download.aspx.

Changelog:


Update AGESA Code

Therefore, the CPU-multiplier problem with the new AM3-CPUs (e.g. Phenom II 955) should be fixed. The CPU->NB multi still cannot be adjusted in the bios. The option just doesn't work.

CobraXP
05-13-2009, 10:44 AM
I received the update May 11th. The first thing I noticed was my cpu voltage was 0.974 before booting. I manually changed it to 1.35. When I got into windows I started cpuz and saw "1.70". The screen flickered and I powered it down. The voltage is big time off. Good luck to anyone using this board. I installed my Asus 980a mobo and I am just darn lucky I didn't burn my cpu.

msuguy71
05-19-2009, 11:14 PM
Hi, I have some questions about some of the BIOS settings on this board and the manual did not answer my questions. Online information sort of gave me conflicting information as well. I am kind of a noob about these types of issues in the bios and foxconn really did not provide a very good explanation in their reply to my questions. Can anyone answer these questions for me at a basic level?

I have 8GB of crucial ballistix ram installed. The specs of the ram are: Timings - 4,4,4,12; Voltage 2.0; DDR2 800 mhz.

In the BIOS the system memory speed value shows 400mhz even if I set the memory to DDR2 800mhz in the bios. Shouldn't this read 800mhz?

Should I manually set the memory speed to DDR2 800 mhz or leave it at AUTO? Is the BIOS correctly identifying my ram type and speed?

The DRAM voltage settings defaulted to 1.8267V the target voltage was also 1.8267V and the current voltage was 1.8080V. Why is the motherboard not auto detecting the voltage at 2.0V?

If I manually increased the voltage to 2.0093V and it put the current voltage at 1.9840V. If I go up to the next voltage setting of 2.0550V then the current voltage goes over to 2.0320V. I cannot get to 2.0000V exactly. Is it best to use the 2.0093V so that the current voltage reads 1.9840V or can I safely use the 2.0550V and have the ram over by .032V?

If I leave the ram timings to AUTO setting, will it autodetect the correct timings (4-4-4-12) or should I set the ram timings to 4-4-4-12 manually?

The Crucial Ballistix are supposed to have the EEP SLI stuff and when I POST the BIOS reports that SLI memory is detected. When I change the SLI ready memory setting in the bios from disabled the only option I have is CPU 0%, there is no CPU Max setting. Should I leave this at disabled? Why is there no CPU max and all I have is CPU 0%?

If I set the AMD K8 Cool & Quiet Control to enabled (or auto cannot remember the setting exactly) it always goes back to disabled. DOes this motherboard with the Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition not support cool & quiet?

Thanks for your time.

Rick

CobraXP
05-20-2009, 05:06 AM
I am sure alot of guys would agree with this that it is better to manually set the ram in the bios for the most part. I would manually set it at 4-4-4-12 even though it detects it at that. Get the ram as close as possible to the right voltage. It's not going to hurt it to run it at 2.0320V.

msuguy71
05-20-2009, 02:27 PM
Ok, thanks for the help.

How come the system is showing 400mhz instead of the 800mhz it should be at?

msimax
05-20-2009, 02:37 PM
its prob just the div. 400

works out to 800mhz wth ddr2 ok



just like 233 or 333

msuguy71
05-22-2009, 01:30 AM
Has anyone else tried the new P15 BIOS? Is there a voltage problem with it?

rumpel01
05-22-2009, 06:54 AM
Not at least with my Phenom II 940, but in fact the P15 does not change anything that matters, very dissappointing.

Leapo
05-23-2009, 12:57 AM
Not being able to adjust the NB multi is a huge problem (for non-black edition processors), but it's not the only one.

I've recently discovered that the FSB defaults back to 200MHz if you allow the system to drop into S3 sleep mode (S1 sleep works fine).

Is there a better way to get in touch with Foxconn than these forums? They've made a highend board that we've all payed a premium for, they're sort of obligated to make it work right!

Leapo
05-30-2009, 05:38 AM
*bump*

Still waiting for a response from Foxconn.

AWOS74
06-01-2009, 02:26 AM
They've made a highend board that we've all payed a premium for, they're sort of obligated to make it work right!

same i think too.
the destroyer-support is really strange...

wont buy a new foxconn under these conditions :down:

Lord Trident
06-01-2009, 11:21 AM
i can not say much about the destroyer
but am building up a list for the bios people to work on
but i will say the destroyer was not made for phenom II they came out over 6mouths after the board was release
so i think it doing very very well to support them cpu

i would say the board was a good gamer board but never a good overclocking board
and you dont want to know what i think of nvidia lol
but please be nice and give me the list of bug or problem you have and i will try to get them fixed
but like i said for blackops am working on 1 board at a time so we get each board bios to a good standed if i try to get all board fixed none will get fixed

thanks

msimax
06-01-2009, 11:23 AM
something simple as cpu nb controls multi and volts

Lord Trident
06-01-2009, 11:29 AM
i like how you think its simple lol
as long as the support in the board is there then yes ok i will request it.

but if the board does not have the support i will say
thanks

msimax
06-01-2009, 11:51 AM
i wouldnt buy this motherboard theres no support for it ,no matter how nice it is the bios is still stuck in the past. worst case scenario get the asus m3n deluxe not the crosshair board, bios's are stil popping out for board or get the rebranded 980a:ROTF: still i would get this board. when you have a support thread and ppl have been crying out for this 1 feature and they get ignored its not good

they should just come out and say are board cant do it or our bios engineer's dont know how to emplement it saves a lot of thread posts

i never said it was simple but if they cant do it just say so and dont beat around da bush

Lord Trident
06-01-2009, 12:04 PM
i never said it was simple but if they cant do it just say so and dont beat around da bush

be nice as say stuff like that will get you nothing from me.
i said i will find out.


but you did say as "simple as " :rofl:

thanks

jbua5150
06-01-2009, 09:43 PM
Lord Trident, Could we pretty please with sugar on top get NB multi and NB Voltage controls?

-Radiant-
06-02-2009, 02:14 AM
i would say the board was a good gamer board but never a good overclocking board


http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/512373.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=512373) @air...not good?!:rofl:
the board is awesome for OC , but the "NB" problem is a real shame :down::mad: and so this was my last foxconn mobo....(i already sold my bloodrage)

Leapo
06-04-2009, 12:33 AM
i can not say much about the destroyer
but am building up a list for the bios people to work onThat is fantastic news! Nice to see Foxconn still accepting community input on the Destroyer.


but i will say the destroyer was not made for phenom II they came out over 6mouths after the board was release
so i think it doing very very well to support them cpuThe Destroyer was designed to meet AMD AM2+ specifications, and marketed as such (it says "AM2+ Support" right on the box). It should be able to support all AM2+ CPUs regardless of when they were released; Phenom II compatibility isn't a surprise at all, it's working exactly how it's supposed to work.

All of this is beside the point, because really, the biggest issue we're all dealing with has next to nothing to do with CPU compatibility. I'm speaking, of course, about the Northbridge Multiplier being broken/stuck...


i would say the board was a good gamer board but never a good overclocking boardDestroyer seems to overclock just fine with CPUs that have unlocked core multipliers (negating the lack of a Northbridge Multiplier adjustment). It has serious potential, but that one problem is seriously nerfing it.


but please be nice and give me the list of bug or problem you have and i will try to get them fixedWell, I think you know my number one issue for your list. I want a working Northbridge Multiplier adjustment! :)

CobraXP
06-04-2009, 06:08 AM
All of this is beside the point, because really, the biggest issue we're all dealing with has next to nothing to do with CPU compatibility. I'm speaking, of course, about the Northbridge Multiplier being broken/stuck...



When I purchased mine I did some research on it. One of my reasons for buying it was the release of the P14 bios which was described as Added AM3 CPU compatibility.

I never thought it would have issues with something as simple as a NB Multi. It is supposed to be an enthusiast board.... i think that would be common sense on there part.

The guy from Foxconn that quit was the only one that ever answered. Why does Foxconn still have a support section on these fourms if they never reply? Hell why do they have one on there website if they don't even look at it?

I would not recommend a Foxconn anything to anyone after spending $230 on something I had to sell off due to horrible support.

Lord Trident
06-04-2009, 06:29 AM
The guy from Foxconn that quit was the only one that ever answered. Why does Foxconn still have a support section on these fourms if they never reply? Hell why do they have one on there website if they don't even look at it?

CobraXp this is still been supported as am trying to answer the question,
but if i look around a lot of your are doing a good job helping each other, which is what this forum is about, helping each other.

just to make you guys happy i've put in the request in for a new bios, so keep watching, it will come (i hope :D)

quake6
06-05-2009, 11:10 AM
Please report your problems here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226362)

AWOS74
06-06-2009, 12:09 AM
just to make you guys happy i've put in the request in for a new bios, so keep watching, it will come (i hope :D)

be sure, many guys would be really happy :yepp:

thx 4 trying to help us :clap:

rumpel01
06-07-2009, 06:23 AM
but i will say the destroyer was not made for phenom II they came out over 6mouths after the board was release
so i think it doing very very well to support them cpu

What does have the Phenom II to do with some board- or rather bios-related issues? The CPU->NB multi was even more important for overclocking the Phenom I (Agena), since the NB Frequency limited OC-successes with these CPUs much sooner.


i would say the board was a good gamer board but never a good overclocking board

Are you kidding me? The Destroyer is by hardware in fact one of the most capable OC-boards for AM2+. I guess you may be interested in these results: http://www.benchbrothers.de/forum/thread.php?postid=913
What is your definition of a "gamer board"? For "gaming" I need a stable mainboard, a target I can reach easily with a 60$-budgetboard.


and you dont want to know what i think of nvidia lol

Topic? In fact the AMD-based Boards are definitily not better than the nforce-based boards. In contrast for example USB-performance is better than most of the SB700/750-boards. And even though AMD has ACC they definitely do not overclock better than the nforce780a.


just to make you guys happy i've put in the request in for a new bios, so keep watching, it will come

Thank You. :)

-Radiant-
06-10-2009, 12:07 PM
Phenom II X550 @ Foxconn Destroyer 1st results :D Bios is P15, but P14 also works...
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/583765.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=583765)

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4262/loiio.th.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loiio.jpg)

oXweebleXo
06-18-2009, 09:52 AM
Quick question. so i have my bus speed to 208, Volts 1.325, multiplier at 14.5. its stable but the bus speed only registers at 206.7 when im looking in OCCT and in CPUz. any idea as to why? i have the latest bios

rumpel01
06-19-2009, 02:10 AM
That's an issue that has already been described. I'm getting also weird and unprecise clocks above 250Mhz Referenceclock.

Beside of that, Foxconn provides us a new bios, P16: http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/detail_overview.aspx?ID=en-us0000400

Fix ADX245 Processor S3 resume fail.

I couldn't test it until now because the download of the file leads me to a "download.adx"-File, which cannot be unzipped ... :confused:

EDIT: The download ist working right now.

oXweebleXo
06-19-2009, 07:53 AM
only problem i read was with am3 cpu's im still using a am2 9850

rumpel01
06-19-2009, 08:57 AM
Have a look an page 4 of this thread. ;)

@P16 bios: no significant changes at all ... :down:

Leapo
06-21-2009, 08:36 PM
@P16 bios: no significant changes at all ... :down:
Sounds like they fixed S3 sleep mode (it used to reset your FSB back to 200MHz when your PC went to sleep). I prefer to leave my computer in S3 mode rather than turning it off, so this is a pretty huge improvement.

oXweebleXo
07-13-2009, 12:33 PM
any updates

poon12
07-22-2009, 12:56 PM
any update on a fix for the nb multi?

rumpel01
07-24-2009, 07:44 AM
Sounds like they fixed S3 sleep mode (it used to reset your FSB back to 200MHz when your PC went to sleep).

I almost forgot this thread ... :D

Unfortunately and in fact, they didn't fix this bug. I still can encounter this issue when I wake up my PC after the machine has gone to S3 state.

Leapo
08-03-2009, 11:27 PM
Well then, bump for S3 mode fix and NB multi fix.

jbua5150
08-06-2009, 08:47 PM
Please fix nb multi! :bsod:

AWOS74
08-07-2009, 10:06 AM
Please fix nb multi! :bsod:

waiting too...

CobraXP
08-11-2009, 04:59 AM
Foxconn still hasn't fixed it? It is a nice board but ..... I will stick with my Asus M4N82.

AMDJunkie064
08-20-2009, 05:15 PM
hey guys...some food for thought here. have you ever considered adjusting the NB speed using NVIDIA's ESA and System tools? While I realize it isnt as safe as adjusting via the BIOS, it may be your only option for now. Besides, it seems to be pretty comparable to AMD Overdrive, which seems to be a pretty decent OS-based tweaking program.

:rolleyes:

rumpel01
08-25-2009, 10:21 AM
This doesn't work with me. I can only adjust the HT-Link with ESA ...

I had this idea already some time ago. Nevertheless, this option should definitely be available in the bios.

CobraXP
09-08-2009, 09:33 PM
Price is right on this board. I still like it and as Lord Trident said it is still supported. Hope they fix the NB issue. It would make it the top AMD/Nvidia mobo out.

Leapo
09-08-2009, 11:03 PM
If all else fails, we can always drop in a Phenom II 955, the unlocked multi should negate the lack of NB multi control for the most part.

Wait...was there ever a BIOS update released to support the 955? :confused:

FatAlbert
09-09-2009, 05:56 AM
if new bios will out I'll back to this mobo.

CobraXP
09-09-2009, 11:25 AM
If all else fails, we can always drop in a Phenom II 955, the unlocked multi should negate the lack of NB multi control for the most part.

Wait...was there ever a BIOS update released to support the 955? :confused:

Lol yeah there was. Someone from Foxconn was even nice enough to email it to me when it came out. TY Foxconn :D

Leapo
09-17-2009, 07:16 PM
Bump...

Any update on allowing HT Multi adjustment? How about fixing the FSB revering to 200MHz when in S3 sleep mode?
What about the Phenom II X4 965 and newer Athlon II X4's, when will those get a BIOS revision to support them?

Edit: Just found out Smart Fan doesn't appear to be functional on the Destroyer either. No matter what the values are set to, the CPU fan speed never changes.

saaya
09-18-2009, 09:26 AM
Bump...

Any update on allowing HT Multi adjustment? How about fixing the FSB revering to 200MHz when in S3 sleep mode?
What about the Phenom II X4 965 and newer Athlon II X4's, when will those get a BIOS revision to support them?

Edit: Just found out Smart Fan doesn't appear to be functional on the Destroyer either. No matter what the values are set to, the CPU fan speed never changes.

wouldnt hold my breath for a new bios :/
about the cpu fan, are you using a 3pin fan on the 4pin cpu header? thats why it wont change... happened to me to :D

switch it to any other fan header and it should work... :toast:

Leapo
10-20-2009, 08:59 AM
wouldnt hold my breath for a new bios :/
Seriously? No new CPU support for the destroyer ever? That seems odd for a still "supported" motherboard consisting of "the latest AMD technologies", as stated on the Quantum Force products page.

False advertising if it doesn't support the latest AMD processors, no? Is it really that hard to get an updated CPU table so the motherboard will recognize these newer CPU's properly?


Dual Channel DDR2 1066
Supports Dual Channel DDR2 1066/800/667/533MHz, 16GB Max. memory which unlocks more performance when overclocking CPU with memory, by removing the bottleneck between memory and system bus.
That's from the product page. It states 16GB of RAM is supported...however my motherboard manual says 8GB. Who's correct here? Will 4x 4GB sticks work?


about the cpu fan, are you using a 3pin fan on the 4pin cpu header? thats why it wont change... happened to me to :D

switch it to any other fan header and it should work... :toast:
That worked, thanks.

FatAlbert
10-20-2009, 09:45 AM
imo.

foxconn should give us bios which will have support for new cpus. It don't have to have good oc, just support for new technologies.

Leapo
10-20-2009, 09:47 AM
I agree. If they're going to refuse to let us adjust the Northbridge Multi, at least give us the ability to use newer CPUs with unlocked core multipliers so we can get around the issue.

rumpel01
11-06-2009, 01:59 PM
For myself I lost my patience, Foxconn has lost a costumer ... I go back to Asus ...

CobraXP
11-06-2009, 05:24 PM
The new MSI 980a board looks good. I might have one for a build soon. I had the Asus 980a. Was a nice stable board.

FatAlbert
11-07-2009, 02:06 AM
guys could tell me is there any place where I can send email with request for last bios ?

Leapo
11-08-2009, 08:28 AM
This is actually the second time in a row Foxconn has screwed me.

The first time was with the C51XEM2AA motherboard, they never updated the BIOS to handle Phenom's (but at least every function of the motherboard worked how it was supposed to!). They claimed the chipset couldn't support it, while other motherboards with the same chipset eventually ended up with BIOS updates to allow newer quad core CPUs.

Now this with the Destroyer...

Come on Foxconn. Update the CPU table and fix the FSB resetting in S3 mode at the very least. A fixed northbridge multiplier adjustment would be icing on the cake.

As it is, Foxconn has destroyed my upgrade path. I was planning to get an AM3 chip now and upgrade out of the Destroyer to an AM3 motherboard later, but Foxconn hasn't added support for the AM3 CPU I want to use!

FatAlbert
11-08-2009, 08:37 AM
where is Lord Trident now ?

as far I remember he said there will be one last bios.

wish list:

-support new cpus (965 c3, athlons x2/x3/x4)
-adjustment of multiplier
-resetting HTT in S3 mode

three things, last three. Foxconn give this motherboard last breath.

Leapo
11-08-2009, 07:00 PM
I've just discovered a massive problem. There appears to be no way to enable AMD-V on the Destroyer!

Am I missing the option in the BIOS or what? I don't see it anywhere :confused:

Edit: Yup, looks like there's no way to enable a standard AMD processor feature, AMD-V, on the Destroyer. Foxconn is headed for a class action lawsuit if they don't correct this issue.

rumpel01
11-09-2009, 04:22 AM
The first time was with the C51XEM2AA motherboard, they never updated the BIOS to handle Phenom's (but at least every function of the motherboard worked how it was supposed to!)

There's a simple explanation for this: the capacity of the bioschip was insufficient.

Leapo
11-09-2009, 06:20 AM
There's a simple explanation for this: the capacity of the bioschip was insufficient.
I've heard that excuse before. Some other motherboards with the Nforce 590 SLI chipset and the same size BIOS chip managed to get Phenom support. I believe they removed backwards compatibility with older CPUs to make room (making it difficult to go back to an Athlon X2), but they managed to do it.

My current concerns, however, rest with the Destroyer. The recent discovery that Destroyer lacks the ability to turn on AMD-V (hardware virtualization) is a huge problem. You can't even use Windows XP Mode on Windows 7 without it.

Even my old C51XEM2AA had the option to turn AMD-V on. Why is it missing on the Destroyer?

I would like to point out, yet again, that Foxconn's claim of this motherboard supporting "the latest AMD technologies" on the product page is a blatant lie. We're missing AMD-V, we're missing proper S3 sleep, we're missing support for the latest AMD CPUs.

I'm tired of being left to sit and wait; I'll be contacting the Better Business Beuro if there isn't a response directly from Foxconn on the status of the Destroyer within the next business day.

CobraXP
11-09-2009, 12:46 PM
I've heard that excuse before. Some other motherboards with the Nforce 590 SLI chipset and the same size BIOS chip managed to get Phenom support. I believe they removed backwards compatibility with older CPUs to make room (making it difficult to go back to an Athlon X2), but they managed to do it.

My current concerns, however, rest with the Destroyer. The recent discovery that Destroyer lacks the ability to turn on AMD-V (hardware virtualization) is a huge problem. You can't even use Windows XP Mode on Windows 7 without it.

Even my old C51XEM2AA had the option to turn AMD-V on. Why is it missing on the Destroyer?

I would like to point out, yet again, that Foxconn's claim of this motherboard supporting "the latest AMD technologies" on the product page is a blatant lie. We're missing AMD-V, we're missing proper S3 sleep, we're missing support for the latest AMD CPUs.

I'm tired of being left to sit and wait; I'll be contacting the Better Business Beuro if there isn't a response directly from Foxconn on the status of the Destroyer within the next business day.

let us know how it works out... good luck

Leapo
11-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Better Business Beuro has been contacted. Foxconn should expect to hear from them within the next three business days.

saaya
11-11-2009, 09:20 AM
gl! :toast:

Leapo
11-17-2009, 03:52 AM
Formal complaints have now been filed with the Better Business Bureau (for Foxconn's American branch), as well as econsumer.gov (for their headquarters in China). Physical letters (as well as the same text in email form) have been sent to AMD and Nvidia headquarters informing them of these issues with their partner.

Foxconn is in for some seriously bad PR if they ignore us after all this...

FatAlbert
11-17-2009, 02:29 PM
I hope this will have positive answer :(

Leapo
11-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Still no response from Foxconn...I'm beginning to get the impression that they're actively ignoring us at this point.

I've tried to get in contact with someone high-level over the phone, but I've had no success as of yet. :shakes:

FatAlbert
11-20-2009, 02:50 PM
i think two weeks is enough for waiting for response. So I am able to wait couple more days.

Leapo
11-24-2009, 02:33 PM
Still no response back. Class action here we come.

Leapo
12-10-2009, 08:55 AM
Two weeks later, still nothing. My support ticket with their online system remains unanswered, and the couple of attempts I've made to get phone support have failed.

So much for support. I'll never buy a foxconn motherboard again after this.

I suppose it's time to start looking for alternative motherboards that are equivalent, feature wise, to the Destroyer. Top contenders are the MSI NF980-G65 (for DDR3) and the ASUS M4N82 Deluxe (for DDR2).

FatAlbert
12-10-2009, 10:12 AM
I will sell my mb and buy something on 790GX, maybe biostar.

I love nforce but it's time for change.

demonkevy666
12-10-2009, 04:40 PM
did anyone try ctrl F1-f4 sometimes hidden options aren't shown? (asus,gigabyte trick)

i'll be putting my 940 in it anyways.

N2Gaming
12-10-2009, 11:26 PM
Hey kev you get around aye. ;)

I was hoping to find a new bios after P16 for this mobo. Can any one tell me the best BIOS for the X4 940 BE? I am not able to push my FSB beyond 260ish w/the P16 bios and would like to be able to at least get my FSB up to 300 or more to get my NB Frequencies up where they should be. I'm sad to say this but I think I should have put my money towards EVGA X58 SLI Classified Limited but then I would be broke and would prolly miss out on the the i7's for that mobo.

Has any one kept up w/the MSI/Lucent mobo launch date?

rumpel01
12-11-2009, 06:52 AM
Top contenders are the MSI NF980-G65 (for DDR3) and the ASUS M4N82 Deluxe (for DDR2).

Since a few weeks I use the M4N82, it's a very nice, stable und OC-capable board, although the featureset of the Destroyer is unreachable (dual-GB-Lan, DVI+VGA for example), but: the M4N82 has got a real good bios. All the issues/bugs with the S3-state are gone, the missing NB-multi or NB voltage adjustmens are present.

It's a shame for foxconn. :mad:


I am not able to push my FSB beyond 260ish w/the P16 bios and would like to be able to at least get my FSB up to 300 or more to get my NB Frequencies up where they should be.

Most of the nforce-Boards will reach a wall at about 260-270Mhz. Solution: get a board with adjustable NB multiplier. And if you still need high referenceclocks around 300Mhz go for AMD790GX/FX-Boards. For example the Crosshair III reaches easily 330Mhz ...

N2Gaming
12-11-2009, 09:55 AM
If I switch mobo's I'll prolly go w/intel this time around unless AMD/Nvidia based mobo's can get it right. I was told the Crosshair II is suppose to have adjustable NB multi's as well and it has the 780a chips set as well. sure wish Foxconn would take the thumb out of you know where and get us a good bios once and for all. It's a shame really because this mobo has so much potential...

Leapo
12-13-2009, 07:04 AM
If you're switching to intel, the MSI P55-GD65 is a good choice. Almost as many features as the Destroyer.

The only thing it lacks is tri-SLI support, though it can do normal SLI and Crossfire.

demonkevy666
12-16-2009, 08:15 AM
Hey kev you get around aye. ;)

I was hoping to find a new bios after P16 for this mobo. Can any one tell me the best BIOS for the X4 940 BE? I am not able to push my FSB beyond 260ish w/the P16 bios and would like to be able to at least get my FSB up to 300 or more to get my NB Frequencies up where they should be. I'm sad to say this but I think I should have put my money towards EVGA X58 SLI Classified Limited but then I would be broke and would prolly miss out on the the i7's for that mobo.

Has any one kept up w/the MSI/Lucent mobo launch date?

I know but I have no clue if my idea worked ?
I have few other idea to try when needed too.

FatAlbert
12-16-2009, 09:10 AM
yesterday I had opportunity to try C3 on foxy, motherboard didin't post. Fans, leds, hdd etc work but on a monitor there is no signal.

spectrumOD
12-26-2009, 10:43 AM
Hi all
I'm running the newest Phenom II 965 BE C3 (125W) on a Destroyer. It's been running great. No problems at all. :)

Cheers:)

FatAlbert
12-26-2009, 02:25 PM
so, what bios you are using?

can you give it to public?

if not, send a pm, you help will be very important to me.

spectrumOD
12-26-2009, 03:43 PM
so, what bios you are using?

can you give it to public?

if not, send a pm, you help will be very important to me.

Hey Fatalbert, sorry, I guess I was a bit too unspecific.
I'm using the P16 BIOS right now, but I installed the CPU while running the P15! I thought it was up to date but I was wrong of course. I flashed from Win7 x64 with the FOX Update Utility to P16 a few hours ago. No problems at all. Just a few BIOS settings were resetted to their default values (or maybe all? I'm not sure). So make sure your IDE/AHCI/RAID settings are properly adjusted for example. Go for it guys :D No need to wait for another BIOS for non overclockers! :) I know it's not great knews but it's not too bad given the current Foxconn Support. -.-

FatAlbert
12-26-2009, 03:50 PM
hmm, now i should get P16, but from where :D mine problem is that C3 doesn't work with def settings :( i'm still using IDE hdd so this shouldn't be big problem. I borrow from my friend GB MA770-UD3 and the same C3 as in the past, so I try again with different bios run C3, you gave me lots of hope man :D big thanks goes to you for this information :D

spectrumOD
12-26-2009, 03:59 PM
hmm, now i should get P16, but from where :D mine problem is that C3 doesn't work with def settings :( i'm still using IDE hdd so this shouldn't be big problem. I borrow from my friend GB MA770-UD3 and the same C3 as in the past, so I try again with different bios run C3, you gave me lots of hope man :D big thanks goes to you for this information :D

No problem! :D
Here's some more:

The P16 BIOS:
You can flash directly from Windows with the "FOX LiveUpdate". I did it from Win7 x64. Just startup the utility and then select "Online Update".

Or you can download it from the Overclock.Net Foxconn Destroyer Club:
BIOS P16 Direct Download Link (http://www.overclock.net/attachments/amd-motherboards/132609d1260518955-club-foxconn-destroyer-79cf1p16.zip)

If I'm not mistaken you can load the .BIN file in the FOX LiveUpdate utility or just use the files with a bootable floppy disk. But you probably know this already...

Actually I was in your situation a few weeks ago, now some more people with destroyer+965 C3 are starting to show up on forums :)

If you have more questions feel free to ask.

Good luck!

FatAlbert
12-26-2009, 04:13 PM
f*ck me, there destroyer club :eek: :D

I want be there :D damn, tomorrow I will fight with the cpu :D

bios already on hdd, some others things too :)

mine cpu did 3dm06 on 4000 on biostar 790GX A3+, I will made 4100 and I own the IGP8200 category :D

FatAlbert
12-27-2009, 06:32 AM
it's works :D

thanks ya man :D

today I am starting testing on air :D

now I have to download sound drivers because I haven't got them :D

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=909704 for start. just multi up ;)

Leapo
01-08-2010, 05:44 AM
I submitted a support ticket to Foxconn exactly one month ago, I still have yet to receive any response. This is entirely unacceptable.

What's going on at Foxconn? Are they preparing to close up shop or what? This complete lack of support is highly unsettling.

CobraXP
01-08-2010, 07:24 AM
With the economy, I am sure they prob have one guy in the support department doing nothing but answering phones all day and waiting for that special day to get to those support tickets while wondering to himself "Why me?" or "I am quitting as soon as I find another job!".

Unless you know what you are doing, don't buy the latest stuff and have a lot of patience... stay away from this board.

DizzyMan
01-11-2010, 06:14 AM
Well, there is still more than 1 person support there to be honest. It's just hard to get things done from this side ;).

So for everyone in this thread that hadn't seen it yet, get your Destroyer G10 BIOS @ http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=242973
If you are having issues with the board, please try it. Also, you'll all be happy to hear that there is some more development coming for this board. It won't be massive, but just that little bit extra to play with. Check out G10 first.

AWOS74
01-11-2010, 01:16 PM
great news :clap:

N2Gaming
01-14-2010, 10:56 AM
f*ck me, there destroyer club :eek: :DYup you can Visit it here (http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherboards/593433-club-foxconn-destroyer.html). I would not say the club is anything spectacular just yet but more or less a couple of proud Destroyer owners who share the same enthusiasm for the Destoryer and it's potential ;)


Well, there is still more than 1 person support there to be honest. It's just hard to get things done from this side ;).

So for everyone in this thread that hadn't seen it yet, get your Destroyer G10 BIOS @ http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=242973
If you are having issues with the board, please try it. Also, you'll all be happy to hear that there is some more development coming for this board. It won't be massive, but just that little bit extra to play with. Check out G10 first.

TY. :up: I'm eagerly awaiting the NB Multi'd BIOS file. :)

CobraXP
01-14-2010, 11:41 AM
unlock the nb and this might be the best AMD/Nvidia mobo out.

FatAlbert
01-14-2010, 11:52 AM
it could be if this do high nb clock, let's just say 4.5 on ln2 and clock 6.3 for 3d mark03/05 and belive me I have cpu which can do this + eliminate htt hole

N2Gaming
01-14-2010, 01:04 PM
This HTT hole you speak of. I have not been able to POST w/any HTT settings over 260 through 300 HTT and have not tried anything beyond 300 as I thought it just would not work.

FatAlbert
01-14-2010, 01:17 PM
maybe it's because I have a sample ;)