"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[BigJoe]

We can start discussion about new MoBo line from ASUS. The P5Q bring P45 and ICH10R, and a huge span of voltages :)
I am impresed with new Deluxe :)
We can start with benchmarking and OC testing from now..

No voltage droop and drop.
BIOS - 1.4V
Idle - 1.392V
Load - 1.4V

With 65nm Quad core @ 3.6GHz

ICH9R > ICH10R
I'm move my RAID 0 from ICH9R to ICH10R without any problem, and just instal new driver in windows :)

PS
I'm expect soon this board in stores :)

[racergr]

Is there any vdroop mod? As you describe it, a vdroop mod isn't needed

[BigJoe]

Is there any vdroop mod? As you describe it, a vdroop mod isn't needed

Nope, this is out of box :)

[Gingernut]

Do you know expected retail price ?

[BigJoe]

Do you know expected retail price ?

I don't know :)
I guess about 200€

[Leeghoofd]

Germany for 150-170 euro's... looking forward to see more tests BigJoe... max FSB, ram speed,...

[BigJoe]

We have tested this board, but review is on Serbian :D
http://www.sx-team.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96:asus-p5q-deluxe&catid=34:testovi&Itemid=34

I do not test on my Quad max FSB yet, but board affect very OC-able :)
I'll test more when i get back my RAM with D9GMH :wave:

[LuckyNV]

P5Q-E results please anyone :D

[diablos]

tuned
Can you make some test about max fsb?

thanks

[Loser777]

What batch is that Q6700 from?

[STaRGaZeR]

We have tested this board, but review is on Serbian :D
http://www.sx-team.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=96:asus-p5q-deluxe&catid=34:testovi&Itemid=34

I do not test on my Quad max FSB yet, but board affect very OC-able :)
I'll test more when i get back my RAM with D9GMH :wave:

The images in your review are not working :(

Looking forward to some heavy OC :up:

[[XC] NetburstXE]

When's this going to be available in the US?

[BigJoe]

The images in your review are not working :(

Looking forward to some heavy OC :up:

I saw :wave:
We has moved on new server, and something evidently not working :shrug:
I will see today afternoon width admin to find what is the problem :wave:


NetburstXE;3024299']When's this going to be available in the US?

Probably in next one month :wave:


What batch is that Q6700 from?

I don't know :(
First part is L8******, but I forgot rest.

[BigJoe]

http://spacemaster.sx-team.com/Testovi%20Sajt/Mati%e8ne%20plo%e8e/ASUS%20P5Q%20Deluxe/Slike/Velike/P1010396.JPG

FTP is back :)
http://www.sx-team.com/index.php?opt...tovi&Itemid=34

[Leeghoofd]

If I read correctly max 1.7Vcore and how are the increments for voltage ? 0.0125 ?

[R@ptor =]]]

when this mobo will be available and how much it will coast?
i will buy a p5k premium, or this mobo...
this mobo its much beautiful, and i think she is a good mobo to overclock, humn?
the gigabyte's p45 ds4 it's very cool too..

[BigJoe]

If I read correctly max 1.7Vcore and how are the increments for voltage ? 0.0125 ?

There is onboard jumber ;)
DISAABLE = 1.7V vcore max
ENABLE = 2.1V vore max

Nice trick :)

I will see how are the voltage increments when i enter to BIOS, i don't have time to restart machine now :wave:

[Leeghoofd]

Preordered mine in Belgium at 165 euro's... Sales guy told me 2 weeks... ( I hope lol)

[jVIDIA]

This is a promissing board :up:

[oerekum]

Preordered mine in Belgium at 165 euro's... Sales guy told me 2 weeks... ( I hope lol)

Is that for the Deluxe version, or did I miss something? If so that's GREAT =O

[R@ptor =]]]

Preordered mine in Belgium at 165 euro's... Sales guy told me 2 weeks... ( I hope lol)
Crap, 165 euros's it's much to me...
brazil it's a crap :mad:
here in brazil, everthing is muuuuuch expensive...
in the eua and europe everthing is much easy :rofl:

[STaRGaZeR]

Preordered mine in Belgium at 165 euro's... Sales guy told me 2 weeks... ( I hope lol)

165?? I was expecting 200+, I'm happy :p:

[Leeghoofd]

P5Q Dlx : 165 euro
P5Q-E : 150 euro
P5Q Pro : 130 euro
P5Q : 122 euro

no price for the premium (yet), and this shop is known for quality service and normal prices, but I'm sure lower prices can be found...

[R@ptor =]]]

Much expensive 165 euros...
here in brasil, it will cost ~R$700,00 or more
i think p5k premium is my next mobo :(

[Leeghoofd]

For the euro guys I see a P5Q Premium at 114 euro's (must be an error by the online shop) thought the Premium was the most expensive one of the lineup

http://www.sallandautomatisering.nl

[R@ptor =]]]

So the mobos p45 its already available??

[jVIDIA]

What is the diferences between the Deluxe and the Premium versions ?

[gugle]

which the maximum FSB Quad with 65nm?

[R@ptor =]]]

which the maximum FSB Quad with 65nm?
i'm waiting for this answer too, i want to put at least 450fsb with the stock voltages of northbridge and fsb...500 it's better with stock voltages :D

[BigJoe]

];3028827']i'm waiting for this answer too, i want to put at least 450fsb with the stock voltages of northbridge and fsb...500 it's better with stock voltages :D

You expect too much for 65nm Quad :wave:
I will try, like i sad, but i am waiting for my Micron :)

[R@ptor =]]]

You expect too much for 65nm Quad :wave:
I will try, like i sad, but i am waiting for my Micron :)
And in a 65nm processor, such as mine??
So the p5k premium is better than p5q deluxe in overclock? i will need to put more voltages in northbridge to reach 500 fsb in my dual?
thanks man :up:

[BigJoe]

];3028926']And in a 65nm processor, such as mine??
So the p5k premium is better than p5q deluxe in overclock? i will need to put more voltages in northbridge to reach 500 fsb in my dual?
thanks man :up:

P5Q must be better FSB OC-er then P5K ;)
PS
450-500FSB is not problem for dual cores :wave:

[R@ptor =]]]

Okay i will be waiting for the results of over :D
P5Q-DLX is much beautiful man, hahaha, i hope this mobo is not so expensive!
i have R$600,00 and no more :(

[BigJoe]

@Leeghoofd
CPU Voltage increments is 0.00625V
PS
You can use numeric keyboard to enter value :)

:wave:

[BigJoe]

What is the diferences between the Deluxe and the Premium versions ?

This is premium
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=19976

As you can see, more SATA2 ports and CrossLinx chip :)

[diablos]

BIgjoe
this mb go over 600 fsb?

[BigJoe]

@diablos
I will test if i get sam good pretested Wolfdale :wave:

[Leithfield]

Full range of P5Q boards available for preorder here (pictures and specifications listed):
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?parttypeid=10&t=2

[jVIDIA]

Overview :

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12055759.png

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12074296.png

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12074854.png

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12075478.png :D

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12075992.png


Express Gate :

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12082871.png


Drive Xpert :

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12084595.png


For more OC on Penryn's :

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12091067.png


P5Q family boards :

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12045968.png

http://news.mydrivers.com/img/20080508/12045303.png

I think I'll get one ;)

BigJoe .... no more numbers for us ? :shrug: Please :D

[destr0yer]

very good specs.

bad point: no Supreme FX audio like P5E

[MomijiTMO]

I'd love to know how it blends. :D

Take your time to tell us how it ocs. Cheerios!

[jVIDIA]

When I receive mine I will give you guys some feedback ;)

[MomijiTMO]

Woohoo. Too bad I didn't wait for this board.

[LuckyNV]

What's express gate SSD and what's with the Anti-gigabyte in some of those pics, pair of kids Asus and Giga tbh.

[MomijiTMO]

Express Gate is a stripped down Linux OS that can be accessed on boot to allow you to go on the net, IM [through Pidgin] etc. I guess it's for those mornings when you just need to grab the news headlines and head to work.

[shine121]

just hope P5Q will be reached after Taiwan's Computex

[MomijiTMO]

We need the NDA on oc results to be over first =\ [If it was outstanding, you would think they would have released it earlier. I could just be going insane though.]

[BigJoe]

I can start Prime @ 7x500 with Q6700, but it is not stable... I need to play with voltage tuning
Now i Primeing on 450x8, and we will see :)

[MomijiTMO]

Nice. Can't wait to hear MOAR results :)

[R@ptor =]]]

Niiiicee...waiting :D

[BigJoe]

Q6700 @ 8x450 :)

http://www.sx-team.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=569

[R@ptor =]]]

Where is the imageeeeeee?? :( :confused:

[MomijiTMO]

Someone tell me how much cheaper this is than the X48 counterpart. If someone said, "here take one" what would you take?

[twwen2]

Hmm the Deluxe and P5Q-E models look promising. I'm not sure what i think of the EPU function though... Can it be disabled, by not installing the drivers maybe?

[The Nemesis]

Nice looking board, feature rich, impressive voltage regulation. Not impressed with FSB. 450FSB stable on quad core 65nm is attainable with most any p35, x38, g33, g35, & x48 boards, but thats where it ends. 45nm Quads are a total different story . 450FSB stable not easily attainable. I would be more impressed if I saw 500FSB 45nm Quad. I own a Q9450 and so far the best board I've paired with it has been Asus P5E-VM HDMI with G35 chipset. I can bench @ 488- 495FSB and prime stable @ 475FSB. Don't suppose you have a 45nm Quad at available to test?

[BigJoe]

@twwen2
Yes, EPU can be disabled. If you do not install drivers.
And EPU cant work if board is not on auto settings, when you OC board automaticli disabling EPU :wave:

[BigJoe]

And more Prime on same FSB :)
http://www.sx-team.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=571

[MomijiTMO]

I so don't care if it can't oc any better than a P35. It has 10 times more features and allows you to xfire with no penalties.

[BigJoe]

So my last board was ASUS BLITZ Formula, and it was allows CF without penalties :)

[MomijiTMO]

Well yeah the Blitz wasn't exactly 'standard' lol.

Still prime stable?

[BigJoe]

Not, constantly fall after 7-8h of primeing :(
I primeing now with 1.44V vcore, adn we will se...

PS
But maybe vcore isn't problem, a got 302 BIOS on my board, which is beta of beta :D
Or maybe PWM or NB overheating, i don't now... We will see...
:wave:

PS2
Next step is 500FSB primeing :)

[MomijiTMO]

7 hours is stable enough for most applications =X.

[BigJoe]

500FSB EVEREST memory test :)
http://benchmark.co.yu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37695

[BigJoe]

Prime @ 500MHz FSB :)
Fall 5 minutes after screanshoot :(
It's very hot in Belgrade this days...
But with better cooling and little more voltages on ND & FSB it is available...

http://www.sx-team.com/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=573

[Leeghoofd]

Will have my board on thursday, just got a mail from the Supplier... looking forward to see what it gives...

[vcp-cur]

i wonder how much the maximus formula 2 will cost...now that will be a nice board... agree or disagree?

[CERO]

Several stores in Germany got these boards in stock already, very tempting, as they are pretty cheap ( P5Q deluxe).

[vcp-cur]

if you check on google shopping ... you will find the p5q deluxe for around $220 ...

not a bad price for a new chipset i think ?

an x48 is still better than p45 right?
just like x38 is better than p35 ?

[MomijiTMO]

For multi-gpu set ups, X48 is better than P45 but it's a small gap.

[jVIDIA]

BigJoe tell me one thing, the heatpipes SB->NB->back mosfets are all one peace ?

[R@ptor =]]]

BigJoe, testing with 500fsb on your quad, that fail, the voltages of northbridge and fsb are stock??
now you will test with more voltages on northbridge and fsb?

[BigJoe]

BigJoe tell me one thing, the heatpipes SB->NB->back mosfets are all one peace ?

No, SB>NB>PWM (left of socket) is conected with HP, but PWM over socket is not... I thinking about replaceing stock cooling with waterblocks.
PS
But maybe Maximus 2 is better way :) : ) :)


];3035140']BigJoe, testing with 500fsb on your quad, that fail, the voltages of northbridge and fsb are stock??
now you will test with more voltages on northbridge and fsb?

No man, FSB and NB voltages is in the middle of yellow zone... So i waiting to outside T chill out, and push it to the maximum of yellow zone :)

[Kartoff]

So everything is fine with this mobo and sounds so good... And i started to think about to buy one P5Q Deluxe... But i cannot assume only one think will Scyte Ninja fit in this mainboard or not ? I try before with P5K Pro and it cant fit there... I saw the space around CPU socket in P5Q Deluxe are same... So maybe i should buy another CPU cooler or to jump to water to use this board ?

[WhiteFireDragon]

lol i like how some of those pics bash on gigabyte. and isn't 16 phase PWM overkill? what is the point of having more phases? does it regulate and control power input better?

[BigJoe]

I don't know.... I got problem on BLITZ Formula with mounting swieftec Apogee, but on P5Q it fit perfect.
Also i mounted TRUE without any problem ;)

[s0lid]

Ordered my P5Q DLX 5mins ago :D
Should be here by friday or next monday

[oerekum]

The P5Q-DLX is really tempting me .. only thing about it is the completely retarded placement of the sata ports =/

[Jupiler]

The P5Q-DLX is really tempting me .. only thing about it is the completely retarded placement of the sata ports =/

Ditto.
SATA connectors in 3 different directions, looks plain stupid.

[oerekum]

If they would all be sideways I would already have ordered it. Having the ports horizontal and in the middle of the board is silly, sata cables dont bend that easy and I'd like them under my tray ... and NOT above half my motherboard before they even reach the tray.

[R@ptor =]]]

No, SB>NB>PWM (left of socket) is conected with HP, but PWM over socket is not... I thinking about replaceing stock cooling with waterblocks.
PS
But maybe Maximus 2 is better way :) : ) :)



No man, FSB and NB voltages is in the middle of yellow zone... So i waiting to outside T chill out, and push it to the maximum of yellow zone :)
So first looking of this mobo: she is not good to do overclock on quads??
450 fsb with middle of yellow zone voltage, and high voltage of the cpu, and not stable :(
Sorry if I made a precipitate comment!

[BigJoe]

It is very hard to got huge FSB on Quad with any MoBo ;)
PS
If anybody need BIOS 302 (BETA) just PM me :wave:

[Leeghoofd]

It is very hard to got huge FSB on Quad with any MoBo ;)
PS
If anybody need BIOS 302 (BETA) just PM me :wave:

Me me me me me me, can't seem to send PM's (get a database error) any word on changelog ?

[R@ptor =]]]

It is very hard to got huge FSB on Quad with any MoBo ;)
PS
If anybody need BIOS 302 (BETA) just PM me :wave:
You don't have any dual core 65nm to test on this mobo?? :(

[AMD_Freak]

Im looking at different MBs for an Intel quad build while the board looks beautiful and in my price range except the SATA placement, 1 thing has me puzzled (100% Japan-made Solid Capacitor) (5000 hrs VRM) per ASUS website duz this mean it will last less then 1 yr or 208.3 days at 24/7 use :shocked: please tell me this is not correct.... hopes its the n00b factor kicking in or lack of sleep in my thinking?

Edit: contacted Asus tech (US) support and they was unsure what it was but trying to find an answer to the Question and will e-mail me something when he finds out he said best he could tell ATM was something to do with the power saving design on the 16Phase design the (board is due for release in the North america market in June/08)

[Leeghoofd]

thing has me puzzled (100% Japan-made Solid Capacitor) (5000 hrs VRM) per ASUS website duz this mean it will last less then 1 yr or 208.3 days at 24/7 use :shocked: please tell me this is not correct.... hopes its the n00b factor kicking in or lack of sleep in my thinking?


In a 105°C environment yes it would only last a year... if your pc's interior temp is even close too that you win a mobo for free from Asus...

[BigJoe]

PM doesn't work :(
I got 3 mail inbox, so if anyone PM me for BIOS I cant red messages...

[Leeghoofd]

PM doesn't work :(
I got 3 mail inbox, so if anyone PM me for BIOS I cant red messages...

Mail it to me plz : grampsjr10@hotmail.com, will put it on my FTP then

[pmp]

Actually latest build are:

P5Q Deluxe - 0604
P5Q PRO - 0505
P5Q-E - 0604
P5Q3 Deluxe - 0507

[Leeghoofd]

Got it up and running (on old P5K Dlx OS ): bios onboard is already 0506 will post some piccies later

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20007.jpg

Got some Mushkin Redlines PC8000 to test

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20004.jpg

Blurry pic :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20005.jpg


Loadline calibration set to 1.250 with Qx9650 :

AUTO : 1.250Vcore in bios -- 1.216 in Idle (CPU-Z) -- 1.168 (CPU-Z) under Small FFT's
DISABLED : 1.250Vcore in bios -- 1.216 in Idle (CPU-Z) -- 1.168 (CPU-Z) under Small FFT's
ENABLED : 1.250Vcore in bios -- 1.240 in Idle (CPU-Z) -- 1.256 (CPU-Z) under Small FFT's

So AUTO is the same as DISABLED...

[BigJoe]

Actually latest build are:

P5Q Deluxe - 0604
P5Q PRO - 0505
P5Q-E - 0604
P5Q3 Deluxe - 0507

Can you put somewear this build for download?

@Leeghoofd
You got the mail :wave:

[diablos]

leeghoofd
please test max fsb with a wolfdale

thanks:)

[jooney]

@twwen2
Yes, EPU can be disabled. If you do not install drivers.
And EPU cant work if board is not on auto settings, when you OC board automaticli disabling EPU :wave:

Thats big :banana::banana::banana::banana: that the new EPU-6 Engine dont work when OC in Bios :down:

[BigJoe]

Thats big :banana::banana::banana::banana: that the new EPU-6 Engine dont work when OC in Bios :down:

PM works again, so you got the mail :wave:

PS
Yes EPU doesn't work when you OC...
I wrote this yesterday or earlyer.

[STaRGaZeR]

Wolfdale results please, also 2x2GB clocking would be nice :D

[BigJoe]

Wolfdale results please, also 2x2GB clocking would be nice :D

I have GeIL 2x2GB BD (Powerchip), and it work same as on BLITZ, 1100 CL5...
I used this memory for primeing this days, so you can see reasults on SS.
For memory OC for now RAMPAGE is best MoBo ;)

[STaRGaZeR]

I have GeIL 2x2GB BD (Powerchip), and it work same as on BLITZ, 1100 CL5...
I used this memory for primeing this days, so you can see reasults on SS.
For memory OC for now RAMPAGE is best MoBo ;)

Maybe with the new OCZ 9200 sticks? 1150 stock speed, they need a lot of tweaking to work at that speed on X38/X48 mobos. Some guys have them at 1200MHz, probably limited again by the mobo. :up:

[BigJoe]

Maybe, on BLITZ Formula with 1504 BIOS i got tRFC over 100, and P5Q Dlx for now has standard 42, and AUTO settings give me default 52, so i cant tweak mem to the limit :D

[STaRGaZeR]

Hehe, anyway both P5Q and those OCZ are in the way to my hands, let see how well they work together :D

[BigJoe]

Hehe, anyway both P5Q and those OCZ are in the way to my hands, let see how well they work together :D

Very nice, i'm waitng to see ;)

[ic3m4n2005]

Maybe i will get me one of these too, but i hvae complaints about the pcie lanes.
To be more precisely, i will get me a new gfx card (ATI 4k or GTX 2X0) in the near future and i am running a pcie raid controller (pcie 8x).
So question is if the gfx will be limited by running at only pcie 8x ?
Atm i am using a DFI X38 LT with 45nm quad (fsb limit around 440 mhz :( ).

[CERO]

If I am not mistaken when u run 1 GFX u just get 16x lanes , but when u run Xfire then u will get 2x 8x lanes on a P45, whereas the X38/X48 got 2x 16x

[Ic3man]

I reviewed both the P5Q Deluxe and MSI P45 boards a couple of week back which you may find interesting if you need some more info:
P45 Showdown (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/p45_showdown_-_asus_p5q_deluxe_vs_msi_p45_diamond/1)

[diablos]

I reviewed both the P5Q Deluxe and MSI P45 boards a couple of week back which you may find interesting if you need some more info:
P45 Showdown (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/p45_showdown_-_asus_p5q_deluxe_vs_msi_p45_diamond/1)

Can you test the max fsb on p5q with a wolfdale?

[ic3m4n2005]

If I am not mistaken when u run 1 GFX u just get 16x lanes , but when u run Xfire then u will get 2x 8x lanes on a P45, whereas the X38/X48 got 2x 16x

Sure but if you put the radi controller in 2nd or 3rd ? pcie slot... it would get zero lanes with your explanation. So i think mobo will handle it like a 2nd gfx card and switch to 8/8 config. Pls correct me if i'm wrong :)

[R@ptor =]]]

Niceee Leeghoofd!!
waiting for more tests of over!

[STaRGaZeR]

Sure but if you put the radi controller in 2nd or 3rd ? pcie slot... it would get zero lanes with your explanation. So i think mobo will handle it like a 2nd gfx card and switch to 8/8 config. Pls correct me if i'm wrong :)

You get 8/8/4, that 4 running through the southbridge :)

[BigJoe]

Is this good enough? :)

[Chri$ch]

@ BigJoe

can you tell me you mem settings?

i have some trouble with my P5Q Dlx (Bios 0506) and the 1:1 divider!

it boot only with 5:6 divider :(

Or can you send me Bios 0302?

[Jupiler]

I'd love to see how this board performs with 45nm quads.

[BigJoe]

@Juplier
http://spacemaster.sx-team.com/Testovi%20Sajt/Mati%e8ne%20plo%e8e/ASUS%20P5Q%20Deluxe/Slike%20stabilnost/Velike/Max%20Q9450.JPG

@Chri$ch
Send me PM with your mail :wave:

[R@ptor =]]]

Nice results Big joe!
how i use CPU GTL voltage reference?

[BigJoe]

0.630x is default for all REF voltage @ ASUS MoBo ;)

[hiwa]

and max FSB with dual 45nm? :D:D

[R@ptor =]]]

What's is the function of pci express sata voltage?

[Chri$ch]

@ BigJoe

thx for Bios 0302, but it wont help :(

my P5Q Dlx wont run with divider 1:1

Can you send me you Bios mem settings?

Thanks
Chris

[BigJoe]

Strap 333, first four bla bla something settings @ Normal, CL5-5-5-15, all other settings @ AUTO for now :wave:

[Leeghoofd]

BigJoe I'm currently testing ram bandwith, but geting very poor results here ( not even matching my P5K dlx )... Lowest power level I can select is 9 otherwise no post at 400FSB, for 450FSB limited to 10, Ram at moderate, Ram in Sync at 5-5-5-15 2T (2 x 2 Gb dimms)

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/PQ53200.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/PQ53600.JPG

Left P5K Dlx and right P5Q Dlx

[STaRGaZeR]

RAM speed and divider in the P5Q? Also, the P5K is at the same perf level?

[Leeghoofd]

RAM speed and divider in the P5Q? Also, the P5K is at the same perf level?

P5K is one performance level lower... prolly a newer bios will fix this as I cannot get the board to boot ( no matter what voltages I put in...)

Also Static read control needs to be disabled otherwise no post either here...

[BigJoe]

I do not have time to test and reboot now, but i will test and photo my settings tommorow ;)

I got one SS for you now ;)
http://benchmark.co.yu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37695

[Leeghoofd]

Quick test with QX9650... never got this CPU to work at 485Mhz before ( didn't post with the Maximus SE) will see if I can get it higher...

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q9650.JPG

Will make a template tonite so we can compare settings more easily....

[Leeghoofd]

For those that are questioning the S-ATA ports, here are two pictures with my 8800GTX in the case :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20015.jpg


http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20016.jpg

Don't look at the mess inside, watercooling needs to be cleaned so reverted back to air at the moment...

[Jupiler]

Thx for the quick test.
How about VCore? Big fluctuations when under load?

Where did you get yours?

[Leeghoofd]

I won't test Loadline calibration Jupiler, bit scared of bad spikes with the Qx... (cost me too much) might test it with one of the E8XX's...

But here's a quick run at 3.6Ghz and loadline on auto too but that is the same as disabled...

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q9650VCore.JPG

Shop http://www.jaha.be

Don't look at the hour, didn't even set date time correctly just booted , hooked up the P5K Dlx Hd and off it went...

[Jupiler]

Thank you.

[wideband]

Hello,:wave:

nice review over at hardocp. the final words point to some possible hard drive issues but in general the word is good :up:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTUxMyw2LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

[Leeghoofd]

Hehehe P5Q3 Dlx mate it's the DDR3 version... will have to give the E8500 a go then tomorrow to see if it's the same ordeal here...

And for BigJoe's SS mine can do it too :)

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlxSS.jpg


K Made some sort of Template (need to redo it slightly to add all the extra ram features)

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
CAS# Latency:
RAS# to CAS# Delay:
RAS# Precharge:
RAS# Activate to Precharge:
TWR: AUTO
TRFC: AUTO
TWTR: AUTO
TRRD: AUTO
TRTP: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: AUTO
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: AUTO
NB Voltage: AUTO
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Grab it here : http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q%20Dlx.rtf (http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q%20Dlx.rtf)

[STaRGaZeR]

Nice Quad FSB, what about that perf level problem?

[R@ptor =]]]

];3039117']What's is the function of pci express sata voltage?
Nobody? :D
sorry for the questions, I'm curious!

[The Nemesis]

Any info on availabilty in the states. Now that I see 500FSB on 45nm quad my opinion is completely revearsed.

[loonym]

It's at newegg $209

[R@ptor =]]]

More cheap than i expected...but later will be more cheap, and it's the first mobos, They are the first revisions yet, they can come with some bugs etc...
I'll wait a while..maximus 2 formula it's much expensive in the release..

[R@ptor =]]]

What bugs? The man already is hitting 500fsb.........this ain't nFarce boards. Nor DFI or MSI.


Asus and Intel Core Logics, ftw!


I was planning on an upgrade for 2010 but my fingers are itching again, so this P45 and the ICH10-R will do me good, and I'm still able to use my beloved D9GMH modules along with the newly purchased BFG 9800GTX (arriving Monday June 8th).

Now, onto the wait for the 45nm 12MB L2 cache CPU.....around Xmas that is, when Nahalem hits the market and you guys start ditching those. I'll get a deal from one of you. I'll be waiting.

In the beginning, the x38 and x48 seemed to be the best chipset, with best mobos. But those who had memories crucial and thought the x38 mobos its the best and bought the x38 did not do a good business, because the crucial announced the incompatibility of your memorys with x38 and x48. This is just one example of the problems that are likely to occur!

[BigJoe]

@R@ptor =]]
Sorry mate but you talk too mauch, so less talk, more read ;)

@Leeghoofd
Hahahaa very nice man :wave:
It's glad to se Yorkfield @ 500FSB :)

[R@ptor =]]]

I am only commenting on what really can happen, just gave my opinion mate..
Sorry if you don't like
Waiting for more results on this wonderful mobo! :)

[havu2000]

hi i'm Vietnamese . my P5Q-E
Ram Patriot PC8500
Water cooler

[WhiteFireDragon]

hi i'm Vietnamese

lol thats makes all the difference

anyways, upon this first release of p45 in the US, hopefully all the other p45's will be on shelfs soon also (like within the next few days)

[loonym]

Nice clocks havu2000, thanks for posting and welcome to the forum :D

[LUCI5R]

Is there any "Real" advantage ... in terms of OC'ing/Performance that P45 has over the P35?
I just got my ASUS P5K-E/Wifi-AP (p35) and i'm having some problems with it. I might end up RMA'ing it back to the 'egg ... and I'm considering getting this one. There's 4 versions of P5Q (P45) at ZipZoomFly ... varying costs ... not sure which one is better.
I'll be running Q9450 in it.

[STaRGaZeR]

What bugs? The man already is hitting 500fsb.........this ain't nFarce boards. Nor DFI or MSI.

The man is also having problems with perf. level at high FSB. You don't want 500FSB or any FSB if the perf. level has to be 11 or 12 ;)

[MomijiTMO]

Well, why stick with mediocre memory modules and or brand? I've never own 'em and never will.

GIGABYTE boards have that issue but memory incompatibility is not the chipset problem if when other memory modules/brand work just as good.

I've never had memory incompatibility issues because I've always bought good reputable brands such as Corsair and now G.Skill. Crucial is a poor quality company (but they advertise like there's no tomorrow, so everyone thinks they're good), specially with their "Anniversary" RAM which several owners ended up RMA'ing. Get G.Skill and you won't have "memory incompatibility" issues, the Chipset accepts only good quality memory modules.

Like having a BMW and filling it up with 89 grade gas.......would you do that?
I don't agree with you.

Who owns Crucial? Micron. There's just a bad batch of D9s that seem to have ended up in Tracers.

Or well that's how I see it ;). I'm open for some critique.

[Chri$ch]

ok, i think this board dont like my Corsair Dominator PC2-8500 (cant boot 500FSB with 1:1 divider!).

now i tried with a 512MB PC2-6400 Ballistix stick and i can boot 520FSB with ~1.3v NB voltage...

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/371529.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=371529

[Leeghoofd]

Glad you got it going somehow mate...and you are not the only one with issues with these sticks (on many more mobo's) Did you try TB disabled and setting power level yourself ? which Strap did you use ?

A screenie, I could prime my Qx9650@3600 with the P5K dlx with LLC enabled at 1.135 (Small FFT's), with the P5Q Dlx I can do it at 1.120 without LLC (1.2Vcore set in bios, drops to 1.17 in windows) So the new PWM design seems to be very worth it...

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q3600.JPG

[cstkl1]

retail p5q deluxe comes with 0506 bios

this board is plagued with ram computability issues

so far..

team xtreem PC2-6400 Cl3s 4x1gb... 3 sticks work one stick no boot
crucial PC2-6400 2x2gb.. only can run in single channel..

both rams are working fine on LT X48's
tested, retested..

[ic3m4n2005]

Oh man when does this end, using customers as beta testers :(

[R@ptor =]]]

Look some problems showing.
that is what I was talking about.
And I also do not agree on the point, which is a crucial memories of low quality. The only problem was with the last batch of memories, with a quality that are horrible!

[Leeghoofd]

retail p5q deluxe comes with 0506 bios

this board is plagued with ram computability issues

so far..

team xtreem PC2-6400 Cl3s 4x1gb... 3 sticks work one stick no boot
crucial PC2-6400 2x2gb.. only can run in single channel..

both rams are working fine on LT X48's
tested, retested..

Soz but if 3 out of 4 sticks work and one doesn't think problem is more with that dimm then... for the Crucials no idea why....

I tried Mushkin PC8000 4gb kit and now working on Gskill PC8000 Kit at 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 1.94volt... will try the Gskill PC8000 4-4-4-5 next week and see if 1200mhz is okay...

This board requires again a total different setup coming from P35 or X38 to get there...

And a new bios is in the making, I had some issues with 400FSB/1000mhz ram 0604 Alpha seemed to fixed it... :up:

Did some testing at 400FSB (425 and 450 will come later) to see how the performance levels are set by bios and how low manual it worked

400FSB and Ram at 800Mhz -- Bios sets 13 perf level at AUTO setting -- Lowest manual is 9 (8 doesn't post)

400FSB and Ram at 1003Mhz -- Bios sets 10 perf level at AUTO setting -- Lowest manual is 7

400FSB and Ram at 1066Mhz -- Bios sets 9 perf level at AUTO setting -- Lowest manual is 7

Here are the screenshots; CPU at 3200mhz, Ram at 5-5-5-15 (TRFC 55)

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/400-800.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/400-1003.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/400-1066.JPG

Think we still need some more work there Asus engineers to get the board up to speed...

EDIT :

450FSB and Ram at 900Mhz -- Bios sets 13 perf level at AUTO setting -- Lowest manual is 10

450FSB and Ram at 1081Mhz -- Bios sets 10 perf level at AUTO setting -- Lowest manual is 8

screenies :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/450-900.JPG

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/450-1081.JPG

[Gr8 Vivec]

Is there any difference in bios between P5Q-E and Dlx? Is it possible to flash dlx bios into P5Q-E?
thanks

[cstkl1]

Is there any difference in bios between P5Q-E and Dlx? Is it possible to flash dlx bios into P5Q-E?
thanks

eh p5q deluxe
and p5q premium ( this has 4 pci express)

are 16 phases
the rest are 8.

[TouGe]

Ordered P5Q-D today, should be here by Tuesday.

Leeghoofd, you hit a PL7 @ 1066MHz on a 400FSB with what RAM configuration, 4x1GB or 2x2GB, and what brand were you using?

I've got a whole mess of DDR2 to work with:
4x1GB Cellshock PC8500 D9GMH
4x1GB Mushkin PC8500 D9GMH
4x1GB Patriot PC8500 D9GKX
2x2GB OCZ FlexII PC9200 Powerchips

Which RAM does this board prefer, D9GMH, D9GKX, or powerchips?

I'd prefer to use 4x1GB since I can pull tighter timmings with 4 sticks over the 2x2 configuration and I'd like to use the Cellshocks since they seem to clock higher.

Is their a Beta BIOS available from their FTP site or is the 0506 the latest BIOS?

Thanks....

Edit

Will I need to do a format? I'm currently on my Maximus Formula x38 using the latest drivers from station drivers, 8.2.0.1001 which includes the ICH10.

[Leeghoofd]

I'm on these at the moment :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20004.jpg

4Gb ( 2 x 2 ) Mushkin PC8000 Redline 5-5-5-15, think they are powerchips as they require almost no volts to run at stock or even 1066Mhz (1.92ish level)
I don't have my 2gb Gskill kit here but will test those next week, they did 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 on the P5K and 780i...

My Gskill 4Gb PC8000PQ kit needs more volts to do the same... really looking forward to the OCZ test as running 1200mhz with 4Gb is a dream come true...

For the format I could go straight from my P5K Dlx to this one with just deinstalling my LAN drivers... worked fine... now I freshly installed WinXP64 and got that EPU thingy also installed but like BigJoe mentioned no settings possible when running OC'ed...

There's an Alpha bios around 0604, no beta yet...

Don't expect miracles from P45 coming from ya X48 DFI board mate. I think the latter is one of the fastest around if you can master the settings, which I can't lol :rofl:
For me current Bios P5Q is already toooooo much :shocked:

[TouGe]

I'm on these at the moment :

4Gb ( 2 x 2 ) Mushkin PC8000 Redline 5-5-5-15, think they are powerchips as they require almost no volts to run at stock or even 1066Mhz (1.92ish level)
I don't have my 2gb Gskill kit here but will test those next week, they did 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 on the P5K and 780i...

My Gskill 4Gb PC8000PQ kit needs more volts to do the same... really looking forward to the OCZ test as running 1200mhz with 4Gb is a dream come true...

For the format I could go straight from my P5K Dlx to this one with just deinstalling my LAN drivers... worked fine... now I freshly installed WinXP64 and got that EPU thingy also installed but like BigJoe mentioned no settings possible when running OC'ed...

There's an Alpha bios around 0604, no beta yet...

Don't expect miracles from P45 coming from ya X48 DFI board mate. I think the latter is one of the fastest around if you can master the settings, which I can't lol :rofl:
For me current Bios P5Q is already toooooo much :shocked:

No, not looking for miracles. Just 400-420FSB / 1066-1125MHz (400 STRAP) 5-4-4-12 PL7 w/ 9-9.5 multiplier. I have given up on achieving CAS4 on x38/x48 boards. I've ssen others do it but I haven't been able to get there as of yet.

I had problems with my DFI x48. I couldn't get my Flex II's off the 266/667 strap so I was stuck @ 1003MHz 5-5-3-12. No matter what I did, zilch. I also couldn't get any of my 4x1GB kits to work either, error'd in Memtest right from the start even though they all tested fine individually in all 4 slots.

So, I'm just looking for a trouble free experience so I can game for a few months before Nehalem comes, then I will play somemore.

Thanks....

Edit

[Leeghoofd]

My Settings mate with my Qx9650

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.2
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED

Here's a piccie for the subtiming fanatatics :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/Touge.JPG

[TouGe]

Nice, I'm really liking the BIOS options this time around. It's good to see the clk skew options, Pull-ins, and GTL's that should help acheive a decent FSB and RAM clock. With your CPU PLL set at 1.5V what does your BIOS report? On my Formula x38 it over-volted to 1.61V. I really hope this is not the case this time around.

This might be a fun little tweaker board afterall.

[BigJoe]

No HW monitoring at P5Q Dlx for all voltages :(
Just +3.3 +5 +12 and vCore...

I think no overvolting or undervolting on this board, based on vCore expirience ;)

[Leeghoofd]

Yep like with P5K Dlx if Premium board has these readings I might step up to that one

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5QDlx%20012.jpg

[Gr8 Vivec]

eh p5q deluxe
and p5q premium ( this has 4 pci express)

are 16 phases
the rest are 8.
yea, I know about phases, I dont care about them, it is all marketing crap, useless...

I'm asking about BIOS differences between P5Q-E and P5Q Deluxe, is there any?

[Leeghoofd]

yea, I know about phases, I dont care about them, it is all marketing crap, useless...

I'm asking about BIOS differences between P5Q-E and P5Q Deluxe, is there any?

Grab the manuals and find out, and really these crap phases made me buy this board and till now it has proven pretty stable on voltages... better than my P5K Dlx for sure...

EDIT : I grabbed P5Q-E manual and ram and voltage settings look the same... so you might be a pretty happy camper then....

[Chri$ch]

Static Read Control disable
VCore @ 1.23xx v
PLL @ 1.50v
FSB @ 1.20v
NB @ 1.26v
SB @ 1.10v
PCIe / Sata @ 1.50v

http://www.abload.de/img/4ghzp5qp36.png

[TouGe]

Yep like with P5K Dlx if Premium board has these readings I might step up to that one

Any ETA on the Premium?

If this board handles like the P5K-D then I'll be happy. I really enjoyed that board, more so than any of the boards I've had previously and since.

I wonder if Everest will be able to read any of the voltages then....

Edit

[Leeghoofd]

It is like the P5K Dlx, just more tweaking options and better stable voltage control , a few biosses on and it will surpass the P35 for sure...

And ditch my piccies Touge in the replies plz...

Keep us informed when you get the board...

[Chri$ch]

:D :p:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/372081.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372081

with only 1.36v NB voltage AND the Corsair Dominator :D

[STaRGaZeR]

What PL are you guys using for 450FSB and CAS5 2x2GB modules?

[Leeghoofd]

With the Quad and 2 x 2 Mushkin ram here :

450FSB /900Mhz ram PL 10 was the lowest I could set (bios gives 13 at auto)
450FSB /1081Mhz ram PL8 (bios 10 auto)

Make sure you set TRFC to 55....

See post 149 for screenies...

[xVeinx]

Any rumors on this board NOT working with crucial ballistix (single sided)? I'm looking to upgrade from my p5k vanilla, and I might get new ram, but it would be nice if I can work with these at least at first...

[STaRGaZeR]

With the Quad and 2 x 2 Mushkin ram here :

450FSB /900Mhz ram PL 10 was the lowest I could set (bios gives 13 at auto)
450FSB /1081Mhz ram PL8 (bios 10 auto)

Make sure you set TRFC to 55....

See post 149 for screenies...

P5E can do 450/1081 at PL7. My board should be here soon.

[chispy]

Good info here guys :) , has any one tried ballistics 8500 2x 1 GB and E8400 max FSB ? My board will be here next week.

[R@ptor =]]]

I sold my mobo yesterday, and now I only look forward to more tests to take this wonderful mobo..
The problem is: it is not yet sold in Brazil and when it will be available It will be very, very expensive!

[diablos]

:D :p:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/372081.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372081

with only 1.36v NB voltage AND the Corsair Dominator :D

can you test the max fsb with 6x?

thanks

[velvet44]

Have a P5Q Deluxe on the way for a new system. Not sure what memory to go with. Any suggestions??
Will be using a X3320 (9300) for now that I have on hand. I know it has a low multi (7.5) so will need to run high FSB to get to decent clock. Nice low power consumption tho for quad :)
Also, I am thinking of keeping it on air for now and ordering Xigmatek 1263 if that will fit...

Thanks,
hope to contribute down the road to this thread!

[Chri$ch]

can you test the max fsb with 6x?

thanks
;)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/372251.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372251

i dont know if the CPU, Mem or Board limited. I try tomorrow a E8200 which can do
595FSB on P35 chipset :)

Regards
Chris

[Leeghoofd]

P5E can do 450/1081 at PL7. My board should be here soon.

One of the reasons I stressed this with current alpha bios things are way better, but still needs some tweaking to get up to P35/X38 level...

Overall stability is amasing out of the box...PWM voltage regulation too and the board seems build to last... hope we've got a winner here !!!

[Leeghoofd]

Test with 4Gb PC8000 Mushkin and 4gb Gskill PC8000 ram : Totalling 8Gb ram at 1066Mhz Performance level 7 : 2hours blend stable

Settings :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.2
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED

Everest test :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/8Gb400-1066.JPG

Blend Run :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/8Gb400-1066blend.JPG

[BigJoe]

@Leeghoofd
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
Why?

[Leeghoofd]

@Leeghoofd
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
Why?


I'm scared BigJoe : of spikes exceeding the specs of Intel... I wouldn't mind using it on the E8400/E8500 but not on the superexpensive QX9650... till some specialist can tell me there are no more spikes...

For 3.6Ghz I set 1.2 to get 1.18 under idle and 1.13 under load, for 4ghz I need 1.325 to get 1.26 under load without loadline calib...

anyway a piccie of the 8gb Gskill and Mushkin ram in perfect harmony :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/8GbP5Q.JPG

[IronAge]

Somebody willing to share the 0604 Alpha Bios for the P5Q Deluxe ? :bday2:

[Leeghoofd]

Alpha Bios are not shared mate, untill full testing is done and they enter Beta stage... you can damage ya board testing one of these... one of the reasons they are not distributed just like that...

I got the 0302 and 0506 bios on the FTP :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0302.rar

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0506.rar

[Loser777]

I'm interested in seeing how C1 9450s and 9550s will do with this board...
Right now its
P5K-VM HDMI vs P5Q.

[Leeghoofd]

Not sure what memory to go with. Any suggestions??

Buy at least decent PC8000 Ram, think you will have to settle for a 450-475ish FSB 24/7... this way you are sure the ram won't limit ya OC...

I can recommend Gskill PC8000PQ 4gb and Mushkin Redline PC8000 4Gb kit... both work fab on this Mobo... and even OC to 1066/1081Mhz just like that... :up:


I'm interested in seeing how C1 9450s and 9550s will do with this board...
Right now its
P5K-VM HDMI vs P5Q.

In the long run P5Q Dlx will be the better board for sure... better PWM and better component choice... It took my Qx for a first time to 500FSB Suicide shot and even 485FSB prime stable...

[IronAge]

@Leeghoofd

I got memory issues with my 4GB Geil Esoteria Rev.1

And i read the 0604 solves some of them. Thats why i am asking for it.

It wont be spread/uploaded just be used to solve the darn memory prob i got.

So if sb could send it to ironage@email.de it would be appreciated very much.

(I wouldnt post my email adress if it wasnt important)

[BigJoe]

Can mods tell why he changed topic name, thanks ;)

[Jupiler]

What was changed then? I didn't change anything, but the title sounds good to me.

[Leeghoofd]

Wouldn't it be better to have it called "the Official P5Q Dlx thread" sponsored by Jupiler and Duvel

[STEvil]

Buy at least decent PC8000 Ram, think you will have to settle for a 450-475ish FSB 24/7... this way you are sure the ram won't limit ya OC...

I can recommend Gskill PC8000PQ 4gb and Mushkin Redline PC8000 4Gb kit... both work fab on this Mobo... and even OC to 1066/1081Mhz just like that... :up:



In the long run P5Q Dlx will be the better board for sure... better PWM and better component choice... It took my Qx for a first time to 500FSB Suicide shot and even 485FSB prime stable...

P5E-VM HDMI's have been to 525 with C1 42nm quads..

Regardless I think this will be a better board too.

[LUCI5R]

Ordered Board Friday, Should be here Tuesday evening (As tracking on FedEx).
Anyone tried the Q9450 with this board? I'll be interested in BIOS settings to OC the Q9450. I'm coming from a P5W DH/E6420 setup and the BIOS seems to have changed a lot!!

@ Lee : Will your QX9650 settings work with my Q9450 for OC'ing
I'll be installing OCZ Platinum Edition PC2-8000 1000MHz DDR2 4GB (2X2GB) Dual Channel Kit.

Thanks!

[BigJoe]

What was changed then? I didn't change anything, but the title sounds good to me.

Somebody removed **OFFICIAL** from the name of the topic :wave:

[Jupiler]

Wouldn't it be better to have it called "the Official P5Q Dlx thread" sponsored by Jupiler and Duvel

I'll drink a tripple Leffe to that. :D


I can rename it to "the official ASUS P5Q (P45) thread", if that's ok with you guys?
Naming all 7 ASUS P45 board names in 1 topic title would be a little to much, IMO.

[Leeghoofd]

I'll drink a tripple Leffe to that. :D


I can rename it to "the official ASUS P5Q (P45) thread", if that's ok with you guys?
Naming all 7 ASUS P45 board names in 1 topic title would be a little to much, IMO.

Where and when do you drink ? Proud to be a Belgian :) Topic title is BigJoe's thing : he started this thread... so he has all the copyrights !

[BigJoe]

OK, can you rename topic to ASUS P5Q Delexe discussion?

[STaRGaZeR]

I vote for one thread per board too, so this one ASUS P5Q Deluxe only :up:

[velvet44]

Leeghoofd,
much thanks for the recommendation... I will probably pick one of those 2 pairs up- guess I will go with the GSkill for now as they are a bit more affordable.

[TouGe]

I vote for one thread per board too, so this one ASUS P5Q Deluxe only :up:

I like that suggestion, it would make things less confusing and more on topic as different variations of this board are released.

Leeghoofd, can you stay on top of the Beta BIOS situation for us--at least for as long as you can--since it seems you have an inside view of things?

[AMD_Freak]

what would be the better choice the DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) or the DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) in 4GB (2 x 2GB) config?

[TouGe]

Either DDR2 will do, as long as they're G.Skill with D9GMH.

Now Jupiler, can we get this guy's member's name changed please?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[AMD_Freak]

Either DDR2 will do, as long as they're G.Skill with D9GMH.

Now Jupiler, can we get this guy's member's name changed please?

:rofl::rofl::rofl: I'm thinking of crossing the road to see if you Intel guys are all that :ROTF: hoping in a week or two everyone has this board figured out So I can see if I can force a Phenom in the 775 socket a few extra pins should'nt hurt, if not ill have to try one of those funny looking E8400 Wolfdale things :yepp: thanks for the reply guys the boards looking better each day. kind of been waiting to see the new ATI GPUs cant give intel all my green.

[STaRGaZeR]

There are no 2x2GB kits using D9GMH. They all use Powerchips with some exceptions, like the Crucial Ballistix Tracer Red DDR2-800 kit.

[-n7-]

This is looking very good to me.

But i have a couple questions on this mobo...

What is max user defined tRFC in the bios?
Leeghoofd, you are showing 55, that's set from bios, right?
How much higher does it go?

And tRD aka Performance Level, any chance you can tell me what the lowest is for 350 MHz FSB?
tRD 7 @ 400 MHz isn't bad, but i have 10x multi...more interested in tRD at lower FSBs like ~350 (i can do tRD 5 on this DFI).

Also, Leeghoofd, i'd love to know if you can pass HCI Memtest (four instances to use all 8 GB) with all 8 GB.

This DFI is garbage for tweaking 8 GB.
Only ratio i can run stably is 2:3...anything else craps out with 8 GB.

Thanx muchly.

[AMD_Freak]

Either DDR2 will do, as long as they're G.Skill with D9GMH.

Now Jupiler, can we get this guy's member's name changed please?

Nasgul, all im seeing is the G.Skill or Muskin 1gb sticks with the D9GMH chips unless im missing something on the list in either (PC 8000 ) or the (PC 8500) looks like the 2x2mb kits are D9GKX any difference in them? http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

EDIT: I think if found the answer

D9GMH : 333MHz C5 1.8V Micron certified
D9GKX : 400MHz C5 1.8V Micron certified : its looking like D9GKX are better for high frequency with lower timings

And back to the Board... anyone got the E8400 over 500 stable yet?

[velvet44]

AMD Freak and Nasgul,
Correct me if I'm wrong but I have heard that the GSkill 8000 is not D9 Micron but Power Chips- not sure about the 8500 tho.

[AMD_Freak]

AMD Freak and Nasgul,
Correct me if I'm wrong but I have heard that the GSkill 8000 is not D9 Micron but Power Chips- not sure about the 8500 tho.

You are correct ...the PC8500 is D9 micron

This thread is for the Asus P5Q Deluxe MB

Sorry :( I got off topic Now where are those OCs on this beautiful board

[Leeghoofd]

You guys are mixing up 1Gb and 2gb sticks... I can heartly recommend the 4GB kits but will test the 2GB kit next week (those are Microns for sure) they should be able to get me up to 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 for sure...

Will try some stuff N7, but eg if you want 3.6Ghz it's better overall to do it with a lower multi as you increase the bandwith of the ram and on the cores...

Bios TRFC options for 4gb kits : 55-60-70-80-85-105-132

N7 I booted with 350FSB and 8GB PC8000 Ram at 1053 : Bios set AUTO perf level at 8, manual I could go to 6 lowest.

Bandwith test 3.5ghz - 350FSB -RAM 1053Mhz - Perf level 6

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/8GB350-1053.JPG

Compare it with CPU at 3.6Ghz - 400FSB -RAM 1066Mhz - Perf Level 7

READ 8540 - Write 8481 - COPY 8684 - Latency 62.5ns

I would seriously go for 400FSB on this board... till maybe a newer bios gives a lower performance level...

HCI Test 4 instances 8GB Ram Perf Level 6

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/8GbHCItest.JPG

Couldn't set more than 1000 as the program wouldn't allow me to allocate more (maybe WinXP64 limitation , no idea)

[BigJoe]

Transcend aXeRam DDR2 1066 CL5 2x2GB should be D9GMH ;)

[Leeghoofd]

Any idea on the 4gb 1150 OCZ Flex II Joe ? as they seem to do 1200mhz on our board according a review I saw...

[BigJoe]

RamList tell Powerchip... I think it's true, OCZ use same chips on ReaperX 2x2GB.

[NIZ]

Someone hurry up & test q9450/9550 with this board pls. Want to see if the 440/450fsb wall is gone from the old P35 boards.

[shine121]

P5Q DLX are nice board,expecting for the new bios to free my board

[STaRGaZeR]

Transcend aXeRam DDR2 1066 CL5 2x2GB should be D9GMH ;)

AFAIK D9GMH are 512bit chips, so it's impossible to get 2GB in one module. If they are Micron they're not D9GMH. The same goes to D9GKX, just a higher binned D9GMH.

[BigJoe]

Or maybe D9HBD, like mushkin...

[-n7-]

Thanx very much Leeghoofd...you've given me reason to consider buyng this mobo once they arrive in Canada!

:D

[-n7-]

Or maybe D9HBD, like mushkin...

All current DDR2 EM2/HP2/XP2 Mushkin is Powerchips, unless you are referring to their very old 2x2 GB kits, which haven't been sold for a long time.
They ususually were D9GSV, though D9HBD was in the old HP2 kit apparently.

An FYI: basically every decent 2x2 GB DDR2 kit uses Powerchips.
The Crucial Ballistix 2x2 GB DDR2 kit is rumored to be a new Micron, but till i see ICs, it clocks just like PSC...

[ReverendMaynard]

Well, this thread is pretty interesting besides the ram chip off topic stuff, but what I'm gathering so far is that this board isn't much of an upgrade from the P5K-Premium. Is there anyone posting in this thread that made the transition from the Black Pearl to the P5Q-D? If so, how does it stack up?

[Cloud76]

@Leeghoofd
About: Gskill PC8000PQ 4gb and Mushkin Redline PC8000 4Gb kit

Can you test these 2 kit separately, which of the two kits reach higher frequency?
Thanks.

Why cpuz and memset say "DDR3" instead of "DDR2"?

[BigJoe]

Bag, only CPU-Z SPD tab recognized memory corect...
New rev. of CPU-Z must corect memory type reading bug :wave:

[Leeghoofd]

K lads I got the go to make the Alpha available to the public : BEWARE FLASH AT OWN RISK

0604 BIOS HERE :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/P5QDlx/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0604.rar

http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0604.ZIP

Keep us posted what gives what works and what not...

[pmp]

After pre-evals, those alpha builds are none the less, quite ready to use. Refer to readme.txt attached, have good fun!

ASUS P5Q-E build 0604 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-E-ASUS-0604.ZIP)
ASUS P5Q Deluxe build 0604 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0604.ZIP)
ASUS P5Q PRO build 0505 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-ASUS-PRO-0505.ZIP)
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe build 0507 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q3-ASUS-DELUXE-0507.ZIP)

[@rne]

THX pmp & leeghofd for the alpha. It rocks on p5q dlx.

595 with Boxed Cooler on air. Ambient temperature 30°C
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372677

[Leeghoofd]

THX pmp & leeghofd for the alpha. It rocks on p5q dlx.

595 with Boxed Cooler on air. Ambient temperature 30°C
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372677

PMP is the engineer I'm just one of his humble slaves... but for me this is a pretty amasing Bios... hope to see that many ram issues have been resolved now...

[BigJoe]

THX pmp & leeghofd for the alpha. It rocks on p5q dlx.

595 with Boxed Cooler on air. Ambient temperature 30°C
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372677

:eek2:

[@rne]

Don't think its maxed:D

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372752

1,52vPLL, 1,35 vMCH, 1,3vTT

still on boxed cooler:cool:

[R@ptor =]]]

ÔÔ my god! :eek: :eek:
this is my next mobo absolutely :cool:

[wideband]

Nice benchmarks here, and thanks for the info so far guys :yepp:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,646410/Test/Benchmark/Intel_P45_im_PCGH-Test_Erste_Platinen_und_Vergleich_zu_P35/X48/&menu=browser&mode=article&image_id=834032&article_id=646410&page=1

My concern is the x8 lanes under xfire especially with the new gpus coming out......is this a needless worry:shrug: considering its 2.0.

[AMD_Freak]

Nice benchmarks here, and thanks for the info so far guys :yepp:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,646410/Test/Benchmark/Intel_P45_im_PCGH-Test_Erste_Platinen_und_Vergleich_zu_P35/X48/&menu=browser&mode=article&image_id=834032&article_id=646410&page=1

My concern is the x8 lanes under xfire especially with the new gpus coming out......is this a needless worry:shrug: considering its 2.0.

I kind of was wondering about that myself

[TouGe]

Thanks for releasing the Aplha guys. I'll post results some time Wednesday if all goes well.

[Ice009]

Nice benchmarks here, and thanks for the info so far guys :yepp:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,646410/Test/Benchmark/Intel_P45_im_PCGH-Test_Erste_Platinen_und_Vergleich_zu_P35/X48/&menu=browser&mode=article&image_id=834032&article_id=646410&page=1

My concern is the x8 lanes under xfire especially with the new gpus coming out......is this a needless worry:shrug: considering its 2.0.

I've been asking this same questions on various forums for the last month or so and no one has really been able to give me an answer. I NEED to upgrade my system pretty soon and I want to make sure the motherboard can handle these new GPU's the are coming out.

[STEvil]

8x 2.0 is equal to 16x 1.x.

In theory.

[pmp]

Some new builds to work on:

ASUS P5Q-E build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-E-ASUS-0702.rar)
ASUS P5Q Deluxe build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar)
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q3-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar)

Note that 2 new options are added, CPU and NB clock skew. Set CPU to 400 ps and NB to 100 ps to get some extra FSB (play ofc with these settings).

[Leeghoofd]

Thx PMP will test it today , hope to improve some rambandwith here :)

EDIT : For my QX quad all seems to be the same... will have to try the wolfies soon... only thing I noticed is that Static Read Contol can remain on auto, while I had to disable it before to get it to post... latency on the ram is still the same and performance level manual set too...

This board is moving fast, good job PMP...will this be the new Commando ? So nice 400FSB/1066Mhz out of the box with minimum voltage settings...8Gb of ram and a Quad

Kind regards Albrecht

[Chri$ch]

Thx for Bios 0702, got ~20Mhz more FSB (CPU 200ps / NB 100ps) :up:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/372923.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372923

http://www.abload.de/img/dscf7438ubw.jpg

Edit:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/screenshot/372927.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372927

[AMD_Freak]

very nice Chri$ch keep up the great work, what kind of cooling are you using LN2 ?

[@rne]

Some new builds to work on:
ASUS P5Q-E build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-E-ASUS-0702.rar)
ASUS P5Q Deluxe build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar)
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q3-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar)

Note that 2 new options are added, CPU and NB clock skew. Set CPU to 400 ps and NB to 100 ps to get some extra FSB (play ofc with these settings).


Great, Thank you VERY much:up:
And i think that the process of saving and loading the settings of the profiles works much faster since the first alpha you provided us.

[Chri$ch]

what kind of cooling are you using LN2 ?
water :up:

[Jupiler]

water :up:

You must be glad you didn't sell the board after all. ;)

[@rne]

Today i changed from boxed to big typ from thermaltake, let's see:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373030

There is room for more;)

[STaRGaZeR]

Some new builds to work on:

ASUS P5Q-E build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-E-ASUS-0702.rar)
ASUS P5Q Deluxe build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar)
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe build 0702 (http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q3-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar)

Note that 2 new options are added, CPU and NB clock skew. Set CPU to 400 ps and NB to 100 ps to get some extra FSB (play ofc with these settings).


Does clock skew affect perfomance or only stability and max OC?

[pmp]

Hence it has to do with some internal delays, overall performance is still better due to higher FSB clock. In theory :P

[hiwa]

max fsb with P5Q3 deluxe Guys? :):)

[Leeghoofd]

max fsb with P5Q3 deluxe Guys? :):)

Haven't seen one in the shops yet... GAR is awaiting his one so he will update you asap with numbers

[hiwa]

waiting with anxiety my E8500 waiting for fast chip :D

[@rne]

max fsb with P5Q3 deluxe Guys? :):)

i reached 560MHz prime stable with conroe when i had it for review and with unmature bios.
If it profits of the new bios as the p5q dlx, 600mhz no prob. Without the new version i could also get only 560 with p5q dlx and conroe.

[LUCI5R]

On Air (Arctic Freezer 7 Pro), and PC2-8000 (1000) 4GB - How far do you guys think I'll be able to take my Q9450? The board is being delivered tomorrow. CPU & RAM are sitting packaged & sealed in their boxes at home.

[hiwa]

i reached 560MHz prime stable with conroe when i had it for review and with unmature bios.
If it profits of the new bios as the p5q dlx, 600mhz no prob. Without the new version i could also get only 560 with p5q dlx and conroe.

thanks

u tested P5Q3 deluxe or p5Q deluxe?

MB Model : P5Q DELUXE
NB : Intel P45 rev 02
SB : Intel 82801JR (ICH10R) rev 00
GPU Type : GeForce 6600 GT
GPU Clocks : Core 550 MHz / RAM 560 MHz
DirectX Version : 9.0c
RAM : 2048 MB DDR3 Dual Channel
RAM Speed : 618.9 MHz (1:1) @ 5-5-5-18
Slot 1 : 1024MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Crucial Technology
Slot 2 : 1024MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Crucial Technology

which one is right?

[Leeghoofd]

i reached 560MHz prime stable with conroe when i had it for review and with unmature bios.
If it profits of the new bios as the p5q dlx, 600mhz no prob. Without the new version i could also get only 560 with p5q dlx and conroe.

did you see this Arne ?

P5Q3 DLx bios 0702 !!!!!

http://strony.aster.pl/pmpcfg/PC/ASUS_P5Q_SERIES/P5Q3-ASUS-DELUXE-0702.rar


thanks

u tested P5Q3 deluxe or p5Q deluxe?

MB Model : P5Q DELUXE
NB : Intel P45 rev 02
SB : Intel 82801JR (ICH10R) rev 00
GPU Type : GeForce 6600 GT
GPU Clocks : Core 550 MHz / RAM 560 MHz
DirectX Version : 9.0c
RAM : 2048 MB DDR3 Dual Channel
RAM Speed : 618.9 MHz (1:1) @ 5-5-5-18
Slot 1 : 1024MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : Crucial Technology
Slot 2 : 1024MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : Crucial Technology

which one is right?

That's a bug in CPU-Z DDR3 at only 618mhz is so so... those are the P5Q Dlx results....

[@rne]

i tested both but i haven't the p5q3 dlx anymore so i cant test the new bios.

[johnysb]

hi guys!
Do you think it does worth selling my P5kC and buy P5Q dlx? will i see diference?

[hiwa]

630,40 possible with nb@ln2 :yepp::yepp:

[Leeghoofd]

hi guys!
Do you think it does worth selling my P5kC and buy P5Q dlx? will i see diference?

Depends on what you want to do... max overclocks this board seems sweet with the latest biosses, day to day use with same clocks... don't think there will be much that differencs from P35/X38/X48/P45...


Some new builds to work on:

Note that 2 new options are added, CPU and NB clock skew.

PMP you have any idea if the P5Q premium version will have voltage and temp readouts for NB and SB ?

[pmp]

PMP you have any idea if the P5Q premium version will have voltage and temp readouts for NB and SB ?
No. :mad:

[wideband]

8x 2.0 is equal to 16x 1.x.

In theory.

True, but it would appear that current highend gpus are starting to be held back under 8x 2.0. If this is the case then surely next gen cards will widen the gap :confused:

(I hope this is considered on topic :eek:)

[Loser777]

500FSB EVEREST memory test :)
http://benchmark.co.yu/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=37695
Is it really DDR3 :shocked:? Everything I've read says DDR2... or is that a CPU-z bug?

[R@ptor =]]]

It's a bug of cpu-z....
P5q deluxe it's a ddr2