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AndreYang
05-16-2008, 05:53 PM
I received this motherboard this morning, but I am so busy for my benching 3D.

So I take some pics for sharing. Results will come soon.




http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/1.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/2.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/3.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/4.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/5.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/6.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/7.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/8.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/9.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/10.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/11.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/12.JPG





Install HR-05 to Northbridge and PWM heatsink.:up:



http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/13.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/14.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/15.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/16.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/17.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/18.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/19.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/20.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/21.JPG


Start Screenshot

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/22.JPG


Some bios options

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/23.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/24.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/25.JPG

http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/26.JPG


more testing coming soon.

DFI pit bull
05-16-2008, 06:04 PM
Thanks Andre, really stunning pics, can't wait to see some results from your new toy.

Solarfall
05-17-2008, 01:19 AM
great pics andre... im really looking forward on seeing some benchmarks :D

M.Beier
05-17-2008, 01:47 AM
Nice Andre... :)
I didnt get this toy, sadly... Can you post max FSB quad and max FSB dual ASAP? And if it allows 1:2 at highest FSB... :)

Btw... Hope you didnt boot with that PLL :p
Kinda would fry your chip instantly, hehe

NIZ
05-17-2008, 02:14 AM
I really like the layout & the heatsinks look like they actually do something. I've never owned a DFI board as the bios options scare me. I wouldn't have a clue what they all do. Does the manual explain what all of these settings do & how they increase stability/overclock? Or is there like a guide somewhere online for DFI virgins like myself?

DMH
05-17-2008, 02:36 AM
I really like the layout & the heatsinks look like they actually do something. I've never owned a DFI board as the bios options scare me. I wouldn't have a clue what they all do. Does the manual explain what all of these settings do & how they increase stability/overclock? Or is there like a guide somewhere online for DFI virgins like myself?

There are alot of guides for DFI bios go to intel section and you'll see it;)

nut311
05-17-2008, 03:50 AM
is sexy board....and "cheap" more than Asus or Giga X48 DDR3 :up:

M3kk
05-17-2008, 04:21 AM
is sexy board....and "cheap" more than Asus or Giga X48 DDR3 :up:

Are u sure?
In my country will be ~480 USD :D.
Dont know Taiwan and USA prices, but here is kinda big...

nut311
05-17-2008, 04:38 AM
Are u sure?
In my country will be ~480 USD :D.
Dont know Taiwan and USA prices, but here is kinda big...

yes, in my country @ Online store prize is $343....

Apollonas
05-17-2008, 06:25 AM
I hope we'll see a war between this and blackOPS:D

MacClipper
05-17-2008, 06:46 AM
Hope DFI has sorted out all the 3870x2 card issues in this new mobo, pls test with a 3870x2 if possible.

metro.cl
05-17-2008, 08:02 AM
This is going to be really interesting, i think we might see the craziest DDR3 clocks with this mobo.

Speederlander
05-17-2008, 09:34 AM
LT version for $100 savings, simpler heatsinks, and the win.

cowie
05-17-2008, 09:49 AM
i'm such a dfi fanboy:D
but i'm broke and have just stepped up my pos 780i for an 790i.
i will get one in a few months or so thuo

Hazzan
05-17-2008, 10:35 PM
Look that board very promising........

geoffsthaboss
05-18-2008, 09:11 AM
i have the UT x48-T2R version and have been wondering if because the nb can take after market cooling without removal of the heat-pipe assembly, you should be able to mount a waterblock on it, right?

NapalmV5
05-18-2008, 12:17 PM
perfect pci/pcie slot placement and i mean all 7 slots

will get the mobo just for that alone

Hazaro
05-18-2008, 12:28 PM
The neon green lines serve as warnings so you don't cut yourself on the HS's. :rofl:

If you go Tri SLi no PCI slots though, unless you are using single slot or WC obviously. Why haven't I realized this before :rolleyes:

NapalmV5
05-18-2008, 01:13 PM
i didnt say the slot config is perfect for everyone but it doesnt get any better for me than that config which only comes along in a blue moon

NapalmV5
05-19-2008, 07:16 AM
when and where in the usa be available?

emoners
05-19-2008, 07:29 AM
looks like my P35 has to go now :D

Andre, is the NB too close to the proc area? i mean if you would use a HR05, would you still be able to fit a TRUE?

AndreYang
05-19-2008, 07:54 AM
Sorry for delay. Oskar still worked at 2000 CL7 and CL8 1T stable. I think I will post some results soon.


Andre

TheKarmakazi
05-19-2008, 10:45 AM
Lookin good man, cant wait to see some benchs on this one

Oliver
05-19-2008, 11:07 AM
Looks really good and u are so true, Oscar is playing 1.84 or 1.86v 2000...

Really looking forward to see more info...

Keep testing it...

emoners
05-19-2008, 07:00 PM
thought it was just the fact that this board is DDR3 that's different, but it seems the PCI slots also differ from the T2R.

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/LP%20UT%20X48-T2R2.jpg (http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_product_spec_details_r_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=5915&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP%20UT&SITE=US)

PaRn ssR
05-19-2008, 08:54 PM
The Beutiful Mobo , Great Heatpipe cooler

Brother Esau
05-19-2008, 10:58 PM
Wow sweet Board Oskar:clap::clap::clap::yepp:

emoners
05-19-2008, 11:07 PM
@Campbell: waiting for an AMD version? :D

Brother Esau
05-19-2008, 11:30 PM
@Campbell: waiting for an AMD version? :D

Yes I agree Emoaners I too am waiting on the AMD Version:rotf::hump:

G H Z
05-19-2008, 11:51 PM
thought it was just the fact that this board is DDR3 that's different, but it seems the PCI slots also differ from the T2R.

They should have kept the T2R layout, more room to freeze things.

AndreYang
05-20-2008, 07:42 AM
Test New Bios 5/19. Looks good so far.


Dual Core FSB 500 DDR3 2000 CL8 Testing


MB: DFI UT X48-T3RS BIOS 5/19
CPU: Intel E8400 ES C0
Ram: Cellshock DDR3 1800 CL8 D9GTR
VGA: Gigabyte HD 3870 Default Clock



Dual 32M FSB 500/ DDR3 2000 CL8-7-6-18-1T 2V passed.


http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/27.JPG



3D06 FSB 500/ DDR3 2000 CL8-7-6-18-1T 2V passed.


http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/28.JPG



Orthos Blend FSB 500/ DDR3 2000 CL8-7-6-18-1T 2V 30mins


http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/29.JPG




Quad Core Testing soon.

AndreYang
05-20-2008, 07:45 AM
They should have kept the T2R layout, more room to freeze things.



1+3= 16X+16X

Second slot PCIE is 4X.

Isaac MM
05-20-2008, 07:51 AM
where can i buy it?

AndreYang
05-20-2008, 08:04 AM
where can i buy it?



motherboardpro pre-order

5/29 is available.

zfactor
05-20-2008, 09:12 AM
hmmm you think they will be switching the lt verison to match the layout?? or will this stay only for the ut.. i may have to upgrade now...have the 3870x2 problems been fixed any ideas??

AndreYang
05-20-2008, 10:27 AM
hmmm you think they will be switching the lt verison to match the layout?? or will this stay only for the ut.. i may have to upgrade now...have the 3870x2 problems been fixed any ideas??


I have no idea about LT Version. First version is UT only.

I will try crossfireX soon.

ddr0917
05-20-2008, 11:06 AM
NB 1.69v!It ist not too much?

G H Z
05-20-2008, 01:11 PM
1+3= 16X+16X

Second slot PCIE is 4X.

Excellent :clap:

Now if they could just solve their time to market dilema.

AndreYang
05-20-2008, 02:19 PM
NB 1.69v!It ist not too much?



D9GTR DDR3 2000 need high NB voltage.

Hazzan
05-21-2008, 04:16 AM
@AndreYang : request.....can you test high FSB with Wolfdale ..Please...:):)

CapFTP
05-21-2008, 06:23 AM
great andre....tuned and interested for this mobo

gigi77
05-21-2008, 06:28 AM
nice andre, new main from dfi! :)

CapFTP
05-21-2008, 06:30 AM
gigi, you here also ?

:D:D:D

cstkl1
05-21-2008, 10:07 AM
awesome 3dmark06 cpu score for ati card..
similar to 3dmakr06 cpu score for ddr2 with nvidia card which is normally higher..

AndreYang
05-22-2008, 05:36 AM
Quad Core Testing


Quad 32M FSB 450/ DDR3 1800 CL7-6-5-18-1T 2.05V passed.


http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/30.JPG



3D06 FSB 450/ DDR3 1800 CL7-6-5-18-1T 2.05V passed.


http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/31.JPG

fireice2
05-22-2008, 07:43 AM
great new board from DFI! :up:

Boogerlad
05-22-2008, 12:37 PM
excellent pictures! can you change the fsb strap on these boards?

AndreYang
05-22-2008, 02:25 PM
excellent pictures! can you change the fsb strap on these boards?


DFI still worked hard with all strap. I just test 400/1600 now. DFI will fixed all strap worked before this mobo is available at 5/29.

azza21
05-23-2008, 02:10 PM
It looks sweet, cannot wait to get my hands on this board. Hopefully it will be in the shops within the next few weeks, it fills like an eternity since i first heard about the board.

synchronize
05-25-2008, 10:02 AM
Man, that is a really sick board! I miss overclocking DFi boards, they're so much fun. I want this!

Infa
05-25-2008, 12:27 PM
Finelly!!! :D what I have been waiting for this moment!!

Since 26 february when the news came I have been waiting, it it has gotten delayed and delayed and delayed!!

yeeeey... :)

some one know if any other store that will ship in the EU also will get it the 29th?
MotherboardPro dont ship international, so i have to get it in EU, and 3 shops here still says pre-order but no date.

regards.

zfactor
05-25-2008, 01:09 PM
are you sure i thought motherboard pro did ship overseas. i could swear they did

Infa
05-25-2008, 01:40 PM
Ahhh ok :)

but it is a far way to ship electronics i think, what if it is broken when it arrives?
omg, sending it back, and RMA and yati yati :)

i will look and trend4pc or scan computer, or Hpm computer first if they will get them at the same time, if not , then i will get it all the way from the states :)
i looked at their shipping, they hardly shipped all over states, so i figured it was really a no go :)

but if u say they are like petra's i like it!

regards.

Clunk
05-31-2008, 05:28 AM
Just reviewing (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/5758-dfi-ut-x48-t3rs-lanparty-living-review.html) this one :)

http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/reviews/dfix48utt3r/IMG_2628.jpg

http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/reviews/dfix48utt3r/IMG_2592.jpg

I'm just adding BIOS images and other stuff now and then I'll get to the testing :up:

Roger_D25
06-01-2008, 11:54 AM
At the moment I'm trying to sell my S2E to pick this board up, been waiting for months for availibility! Can't wait to read more results from testing, so far looking very promising! Thanks Andre for posting your testing results, much apprecaited! Also Clunk great job with your review as well!

SeLecT
06-01-2008, 12:14 PM
@Clunk

Nice Review! Waiting for the rest!

Clunk
06-01-2008, 01:27 PM
Thanks :)

The first good news is that the TRUE fits (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/19833-post11.html) and also the RAM slots don't get in the way of the top PCI-E slot now :)

Supershanks
06-01-2008, 02:53 PM
Hi Infa
HPM have them (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8393_DFI-LANparty-UT-X48-T3RS.html) must admit i'm tempted but have got to sort a fewe thinfs before i can order :D

You going for one , tather than your Asus ??

mrlobber
06-01-2008, 10:45 PM
Me & kiwi having already 2 coming to us from trend4pc.de... we'll see how really good (or not) these boards will be (having that QX9650 in the house which on P5K3Dlx almost set the 1M & 32M WR's ;) ) If these boards can give additional 100Mhz vs Asus as well as having solid CPC & DDR3 performance, the Pi times will be better ;)

azza21
06-02-2008, 09:48 AM
Id love to see this compaired against the new foxconn board, to see which is better in overal performance. I do not know which one to get.

mrcape
06-03-2008, 02:02 PM
It's really cool that they added finer grain control on VTT.

Roger_D25
06-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Just ordered the board, should arrive this afternoon as its on the delivery truck as I write this! I'm gonna do my best to get my currrent system pulled apart and then build up the DFI quickly so I have some time for testing and initial thoughts. So I'll do my best to post back later tonight if all goes well!

Clunk - Can't wait to read the last parts of your DFI X48-T3R reviews (results) once your able to get it posted! I've been having a blast reading and checking out your site, very impressive!

Supershanks
06-05-2008, 09:03 AM
Have to see how this develops Foxconn Black Ops vs. DFI UT X48-T3RS Comparison Review (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/user-reviews/6192-foxconn-black-ops-vs-dfi-ut-x48-t3rs-comparison-review.html)

Roger_D25
06-05-2008, 09:38 AM
I must say that I struggled quite hard with what board to get (to replace my S2E), it was between Asus's P5E3-Premium, DFI UT X48-T3R, and Foxconn's BlackOps. I think their all decent boards with the Asus probably the easiest to setup, overclock, and get stable followed by the DFI and then the Foxconn. This is only based from the reviews and articles I've read. However on the other hand that list is probably reversed in terms of potential, Foxconn, DFI, and Asus (for overall clocks, especially with sub-ambient cooling involved). I like to overclock as much as the next guy but I also only have one system so I like it to be reliable too. This is probably the only reason I got the DFI over the BlackOps, well that and the somewhat steeper learning curve on the BlackOps as far as the BIOS is concerned. In any case I'll be keeping close tabs on the thread you just linked to Supershanks so thanks for posting it!

Supershanks
06-05-2008, 10:06 AM
Yep understand, I was an early adapter of x48 & went for the Gigabyte GA X48T DQ6 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/3201-gigabyte-x48t-dq6-living-review.html) over the Asus's P5E3-Premium , basically didn't see any advantage in paying an extra £70/$140 that the premium was here in the UK. From what I've found , together with Ace-a-Rue (see thread in siggy). I've been very pleased with board.

It's only now of course that the DFI & Foxconn have appeared. Again I'm more drawn I guess to the cheaper but well appointed DFI board. Like you say though I'm interested to see how they compare.

Roger_D25
06-05-2008, 10:21 AM
I am now the proud owner of a new DFI UT X48-T3R motherboard which just arrived less than 5-minutes ago! Even though I've done it a hundred times I still love opening up new hardware and checking it out! As usual with DFI this motherboard is beautiful and the build quality is very good! Its so much different seeing hardware in person than it is viewing it in a photograph (no matter how nice the photos are). I think this onboard cooling setup is even nicer than my old DFI UT P35, plus it looks like this will actually do a decent job of cooling even when pushed a bit! In a few minutes I'm gonna pull my S2E apart and transfer everything over to the DFI, if all goes well I'll be up and running (with a clean install if WinXP Pro)within a couple hours. Once it is up and running I'll try to post back with some better descriptions of the board.

With that all said I've got a quick question for people who already own this board, the board arrives in a plastic clam-shell container. The actual motherboard is in the bottom plastic half and the transpiper type cooler and sound card are attached to the upper plastic half. Well there was a small empty white box between both halfs of the plastic container right about the CPU socket. Well was this box supposed to have something in it or was it just used for keeping the two plastic clam-shell pieces separated correctly? I quickly browsed through the manual and it doesn't show this box, plus I seem to have all the parts shown in pictures? If anyone has information on this I'd be greatful! Last but not least, wish me luck guys in getting this board setup and running!

Praz
06-05-2008, 10:38 AM
The box is used as a filler only. It is empty.

Supershanks
06-05-2008, 10:40 AM
Very nice
Even though I've done it a hundred times I still love opening up new hardware and checking it out :lol: part of what keeps us coming back. Looked at Clunks thread & couldn't see anything related to your white box, i'll ask.

Must admit I'm getting an itch :lol:
look forward to seeing you running :up:


luck:)

Roger_D25
06-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Thanks Praz, glad to know! Have you put this board through its paces yet and if so what are you general thoughts so far?

Supershanks - I'm glad I'm not the only geek who still enjoys opening new hardware, heck I even enjoy the smell of new hardware, lol! By the way thanks for the kind words, I'm hoping for the best! Alright this time I"m really shutting down and starting the new build!

Praz
06-05-2008, 11:37 AM
Haven't had much time with it. What I did notice right off is no more double boot from a cold boot or FSB change. I haven't posted any results as I'm using an Alpha BIOS. It's tuned for clocking 1GB sticks but seems to do good with 2GB ones also. I asked last night if a beta version based on this one could be posted up.

Supershanks
06-05-2008, 11:38 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only geek who still enjoys opening new hardware, heck I even enjoy the smell of new hardware :lol: yes at least it's cheaper than that other great smell , the new motor :) :rofl:

ACE76
06-06-2008, 06:38 AM
I'm surprised more people here haven't jumped on this board yet...I think I'm gonna go with this over the Foxconn for my phase build...I know the BIOS and already had great sucess with the X48 LT board...I hope more people jump on this so we can get some good discussions going for it.

Clunk
06-06-2008, 06:40 AM
Updated things slightly. (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/19802-post4.html)

It turns out that there is a glaring error in the user manual regarding the PCI-E slot configs. :up:

emoners
06-06-2008, 09:01 AM
Updated things slightly. (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/19802-post4.html)

It turns out that there is a glaring error in the user manual regarding the PCI-E slot configs. :up:

clunk, you referring to the 1x instead of the 16x?

Clunk
06-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Yep, the manual says that PCI-E 4 is the second 16x PCI-E slot, when it is actually 1 & 3 that are the 16x slots.

Also, I found that if I started off with the 8800GT in the PCI-E 4, and then moved it to PCI-E 3, I still only got 1x until I reset the CMOS.

Seems ok now :)

Added DFI UT X48-T3RS voltage measuring points. (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/20865-post26.html)

Roger_D25
06-06-2008, 04:39 PM
Granted it doesn't really matter but this was by far the worst DFI manual I've ever read before, nothing at all about BIOS setup or settings? It does however do a great job of having different launguages, lol! Well after a long night I got Windows loaded finally, after getting the genaral BIOS settings sorted. Unfortunately I had to go to bed for work today but I've got a few hours tonight to play around. I'm currently using BIOS version 05/21 (probably most are using this BIOS) and it seems to be fine, although I do have one major issues that I haven't spent much time on but I will tonight. Once I got the BIOS setup (except for Genie settings) I tried manually setting my DRAM timings (just the main 4, tCL, tRCD, tRP, and tRAS to 7-7-7) and upped the DRAM voltage from 1.5v to 1.9v but it wouldn't boot, just got an odd "01" error code. The only way to get around this was to manually clear CMOS and start over. At this point I've been unable to change DRAM timings with any success, even thought the DIMMS are only clocked at 1333Mhz? Has anyone experienced this problem so far?

Now that I'm home from work I'm gonna give it another go, and I'll have more time to do it but any suggestions would be greatly apprecaited!

Clunk - Thank you very much for posting Voltage Measuring Points, what a huge help! I didn't think that Smart Guardian was all that accurate, lol! Thanks again guys for all the postings, I also hope that others pick this board up as I think it will be a pretty decent mothreboards once things get sorted a bit.

Clunk
06-06-2008, 05:26 PM
I haven't played with the timings yet, but I will get to it over the weekend.

This (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/6164-corsair-2x2gb-xms3-dhx-ddr3-1600-tw3x4g1600c9dhxnv-living-review.html) is as far as I've got, but I have some 2000Mhz OCZ sticks as well :)

Roger_D25
06-06-2008, 05:29 PM
Thanks Clunk, I'll post back soon once I've given this some proper time. I should have done that first instead of posting before knowing what the problem was!

Praz
06-06-2008, 06:02 PM
Haven't had time to play much. OCZ 2x2GB 1333 ReaperX at 1600. Don't think the board can hold these timings at 1N with 2GB sticks but gonna give it a shot.

http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600mem.jpg


http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600prime.jpg

bobov
06-06-2008, 06:13 PM
There is a thread about this mobo at ocxtreme.org.

http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3306

OPB post some SS for bios settings.

http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=43420&postcount=55

So far I didn't see any SS for CL7 running, and others report problems to run memory @ CL7.

http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showpost.php?p=43591&postcount=67

:(

Praz
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
So far I didn't see any SS for CL7 running, and others report problems to run memory @ CL7.
:(
Guess I missed those reports. :)

bobov
06-06-2008, 07:48 PM
Haven't had time to play much. OCZ 2x2GB 1333 ReaperX at 1600. Don't think the board can hold these timings at 1N with 2GB sticks but gonna give it a shot.



Now we have one SS for cl7 timing. :)

kiwi
06-07-2008, 12:32 AM
It's because new beta bios solves some issues. Now sticks that had C1 error can boot and work (previously no boot at all) and RAM oc with CL7 is much better now. There are still issues with RAM dividers but hopefully they will be fixed

I don't know when that bios will be publicly available though

Roger_D25
06-07-2008, 12:05 PM
Guys thanks for all the posted information, much appreciated! With that said what BIOS are you guys currently running, I ask because I've only been able to find access to the 2x BIOS files at DFI's website.

Praz
06-07-2008, 12:10 PM
I don't know when that bios will be publicly available though
It's being worked on now so hopefully soon.

Praz
06-07-2008, 06:23 PM
E8400, OCZ ReaperX 1333MHz 2x2GB memory. CPU-Z does not report the correct memory speed using this divider.

click to enlarge
http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1500/1500mem_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1500/1500mem_l.jpg)


click to enlarge
http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1500/1500pr_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1500/1500pr_l.jpg)

Supershanks
06-08-2008, 01:44 AM
CPU-Z does not report the correct memory speed using this divider. Yep been like that a while I'm using 2:3 divider on the most 500+ fsb shots , probably the most stable & best diider on my GA-X48T-DQ6.

I'm only using cpu-z for verification, using everest cpuid instead which reports correctly

Praz
06-08-2008, 03:47 AM
Yep been like that a while I'm using 2:3 divider on the most 500+ fsb shots , probably the most stable & best diider on my GA-X48T-DQ6.

I'm only using cpu-z for verification, using everest cpuid instead which reports correctly
We definitely need some software updates. When manually pulling in tRD phases, Memset misreports the performance level. Everest show the value correctly though.

Supershanks
06-08-2008, 04:30 AM
We definitely need some software updates. When manually pulling in tRD phases, Memset misreports the performance level. Everest show the value correctly though. :rofl: Yep guess that's what we get for living on the edge :) , but it is a bit sloppy on the software side seeing as x48 has beemn out a while now really

Clunk
06-11-2008, 08:56 AM
Managed this one so far OCCT/WPrime stable :).

488x9.5 @ 1.53v - 4561Mhz CPU - 1952Mhz RAM @ 1.82v - 9-9-9-24 - 1:2

http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/reviews/dfix48utt3r/benches/ocz-2000mhz/4637cpu-1952mhz-9-9-9-24-1.53v-occt-wprimesm.png (http://www.clunk.org.uk/images/reviews/dfix48utt3r/benches/ocz-2000mhz/4637cpu-1952mhz-9-9-9-24-1.53v-occt-wprime.png)

The rest of the results are here. (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/21224-post28.html)

Praz
06-11-2008, 09:10 AM
Managed this one so far OCCT/WPrime stable :).

Nice. Which BIOS are you using. With the posted beta I've found what looks to be good 24/7 settings. E8400, 8x500 FSB with 2x2GB Reaper/1333 at 1666, 7-6-6-20 1T. Hope to have my usual screenies up by the weekend.

Clunk
06-11-2008, 09:47 AM
I'm using the 06/09 official beta, I figured it would be more relevant for the review to use a BIOS that everyone can get hold of.

I will try the TTTT, but after I've done the testing :)

I'll look forward to the screenies then :D

Praz
06-11-2008, 10:01 AM
I'm using the 06/09 official beta, I figured it would be more relevant for the review to use a BIOS that everyone can get hold of.

I will try the TTTT, but after I've done the testing :)

I'll look forward to the screenies then :D
Same BIOS I'm using. And I agree about the importance of the BIOS being available. That's the reason I haven't posted many results. Doesn't matter how good the board is if the BIOS being used isn't available to everyone. So far, the 06/09 seems better then either the TTTT or the 6T. And at least with 2x2GB sticks the yellow slots also seem preferable.

slim142
06-11-2008, 10:58 AM
This board kicks ass
Anybody looking for a x48 with DDR 3 should go for a P5E3 Premium or this one.

Clunk
06-11-2008, 12:05 PM
Same BIOS I'm using. And I agree about the importance of the BIOS being available. That's the reason I haven't posted many results. Doesn't matter how good the board is if the BIOS being used isn't available to everyone. So far, the 06/09 seems better then either the TTTT or the 6T. And at least with 2x2GB sticks the yellow slots also seem preferable.

The yellow slots seem to be working better on the 2x1GB OCZ sticks also, but only by a small amount - 2-4FSB :lol: I haven't tried for tighter timings yet, will get to that tonight hopefully.

emoners
06-11-2008, 08:43 PM
How are your NB/PWM temps Clunk?

Supershanks
06-12-2008, 12:20 AM
Anybody looking for a x48 with DDR 3 should go for a P5E3 Premium or this one. Think Gigabyte X48T DQ6 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/3201-gigabyte-x48t-dq6-living-review.html) is also a great performer as well, as Ace-a-Rue & I both found. Link to Aces's thread here is in my sig.

Praz
06-12-2008, 03:31 AM
E8400
OCZ ReaperX 2x2GB 1333MHz
500X8, 400/1333 Divider
7-6-6-20 1N

A couple of quick screenshots till some proper testing is done.


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http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1666/occt_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1666/occt_l.jpg)


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http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1666/ever_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1666/ever_l.jpg)


http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/374667.png (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=374667)

kiwi
06-12-2008, 03:44 AM
Model 3 I would guess? And whats up with PL=8 for channel A and PL=9 for B?


BTW, why is there no TREF in bios? It should default to 16383 :)

eva2000
06-12-2008, 03:52 AM
Model 3 I would guess? And whats up with PL=8 for channel A and PL=9 for B?


BTW, why is there no TREF in bios? It should default to 16383 :)Oskar is tweaking away for bios improvements apparently

as to channel A/B with different PL that's a tweak by adjusting the phases of each channel individually in bios http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/motherboards/dfi/LP_UT_X48_T3RS/bios/content/DFI_UT_X48_T3RS_bios_16_large.html

yeah difference between tREF 6240 vs 16383T is <1-1.5s in super pi 32M but shaves ~0.2ns of everest memory latency heh

Clunk
06-12-2008, 05:19 AM
How are your NB/PWM temps Clunk?

I will check on the next run and let you know :)

emoners
06-12-2008, 07:25 AM
thanks Clunk :) it just amazes me how DFI tapped Thermalright to do their sinks...maybe soon DFI would tap EK/Swiftech/D-Tek...? :D

Roger_D25
06-12-2008, 07:41 AM
Recenlty made the switch from the shipped BIOS (05/21) to the newer (06/09 Beta) and quickly realized big improvments, especially with 7-7-7 clocking as Eva2000 mentioned! It also fixed a new minor issues I was having when restarting the motherboard (if I shut down the motherboard and went back some time later to start up the board wouldn't post. I would have to either manually reset the board a handful of times or clear CMOS and start over). Now it starts right up with no issues what-so-ever which is great news! At the moment I'm having decent stability at 450Mhz x 8.0x with 7-7-7-21 1T. Granted the performance isn't great because I've got plenty more DRAM settings to tighten up but I'm happy to have made some progress over 05/21!

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3523/450x8stabilityoneresizegl2.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=450x8stabilityoneresizegl2.jpg)

ACE76
06-12-2008, 09:05 AM
Can anyone confirm for me if there is any performance/stability issues if you use the yellow memory slots over the green? I ordered the new OCZ Flex II memory along with this board but won't be able to use those big heatsinks on the memory made for water-cooling, if I put them in the green slots and the Thermalright HR-05 northbridge cooler...I will have to use the yellow slots so if any of you guys could comment on how well those slots work with your memory, I'd appreciate it much. Thank You.

Praz
06-12-2008, 09:09 AM
The yellow slots seem slightly better then the green. Those are the slots I used in the screenshot on the proceeding page.

ACE76
06-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Forgot to mention, has anyone tried sub-zero cooling with this mobo yet?

Roger_D25
06-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Yeah same here, yellow slots are fine and probably better from what most people say (people far more knowledgable than myself)!

ACE76
06-12-2008, 09:20 AM
Thanks Roger...I just took a look at the first page and after looking at the pics, realized that my memory's heatsinks would be in conflict with the Thermalright heatsink...for the longest, I've just popped my memory into the first slots...I guess it just became habbit after doing it for so long...I can't wait to play with this board tonight with regular air-cooling...then in a few weeks everything goes into a custom phase change system being built for me...should be a lot of fun with my 9770 that has been sitting in me bedroom unopened for 2 months now.

Clunk
06-12-2008, 09:38 AM
Forgot to mention, has anyone tried sub-zero cooling with this mobo yet?


Here (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/5758-dfi-ut-x48-t3rs-lanparty-living-review.html) :)


the last run was just to see how high it would go with the 9.5 multi at 1:2. I was hoping to get to 500/2000 but i was just short of that at 488/1952.

Going to try with a lower multi and see what I can get :)

karlpox
06-13-2008, 04:51 PM
just bought this board and got some problems.

first the LED display C1 then after 5 seconds it changes to 01 and stays 01. How do i fix this?

im using stock bios with this board and im using Team Xtreme DDR3-1600.

Roger_D25
06-13-2008, 05:23 PM
I had similar issue when I first got the board as well. I ended up just clearing the CMOS a few times and then made sure I went through the entire BIOS making sure all my settings were very stable (just to get things up and running and to install Windows). Once I had the OS installed I went back into BIOS and started playing around a bit more. I don't know how much experience you have but there are many settings on the board which can cause your situation to happen. Plus make sure you have all the HDD/Sata settings correct so that it recognizes your HDD's. My manual is put away in the box right now but check yours and see if it lists the "01" setting, it migth help you get started. Again however in my case I just manually cleared the CMOS (using the two onboard PWR +RESET buttons) and it eventually booted up! Good luck.

Praz
06-13-2008, 05:34 PM
just bought this board and got some problems.

first the LED display C1 then after 5 seconds it changes to 01 and stays 01. How do i fix this?

im using stock bios with this board and im using Team Xtreme DDR3-1600.
Check if your ram's SPD default to CAS7. The shipping BIOS will not boot with that value. Boot with memory that has CAS set to some other value and flash to the 06/09 BIOS.

Roger_D25
06-13-2008, 05:42 PM
Crap, didn't even think about that Praz but I bet your right! In my case I was able to initially boot because my modules default SPD is 9-9-9-24 but one of the first things I did was manually set timings to 7-7-7 on 05/21. That is when the fun began because at the time I had no idea that 05/21 had this problem? Good point!

karlpox
06-13-2008, 06:24 PM
Check if your ram's SPD default to CAS7. The shipping BIOS will not boot with that value. Boot with memory that has CAS set to some other value and flash to the 06/09 BIOS.

my monitor wont even display anything.. im stack to error 25 on the LED on the board.

Praz
06-13-2008, 06:33 PM
my monitor wont even display anything.. im stack to error 25 on the LED on the board.
A Google seach for the default boot SPD.

karlpox
06-13-2008, 07:10 PM
i cant even change the spd since i cant go to bios. my monitor wont display anything. i tried 3870x2, 3870 and 7300gt but still nothing.

fireice2
06-14-2008, 12:40 AM
Need to borrow jhay's set of ram. :D

kiwi
06-14-2008, 01:05 AM
i cant even change the spd since i cant go to bios. my monitor wont display anything. i tried 3870x2, 3870 and 7300gt but still nothing.


Yep, that is a problem unfortunately. Many sticks wont boot with the shipped bios :( Newer bios solves that.

SquidgyB
06-14-2008, 04:42 AM
I think this might help, and they seem to be very cheap, much cheaper than buying a new stick of ram to get it working:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BIOS-CHIP-ASUS-MSI-GIGABYTE-ABIT-DFI-ECS-BIOSTAR-more_W0QQitemZ380036108362QQihZ025QQcategoryZ96869 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

emoners
06-14-2008, 07:07 AM
Check if your ram's SPD default to CAS7. The shipping BIOS will not boot with that value. Boot with memory that has CAS set to some other value and flash to the 06/09 BIOS.

does these problems (as well as the yellow ram slots) only occur in the T3R? how about the T2R?

Praz
06-14-2008, 07:11 AM
does these problems (as well as the yellow ram slots) only occur in the T3R? how about the T2R?
CAS 7 issue is TR3 Only. I do see some stability gain using the yellow slots with 2x2GB sticks with the TR2.

emoners
06-14-2008, 07:30 AM
thanks Praz!:up:

Praz
06-14-2008, 08:04 AM
thanks Praz!:up:
Welcome :)

Glennswe
06-14-2008, 09:06 AM
Striker 2 Extreme is now retired (thank god) in the box and DFI X48 T3Rs mounted and booted up directly without a hickup, really looking forward to this mobo:-)

karlpox
06-14-2008, 02:24 PM
Need to borrow jhay's set of ram. :D

yep just borrowed his rams (ocz reaperx 2x2gb ddr3-1333) but still doesnt work. any other options on what i can with my problem??

Praz
06-14-2008, 03:12 PM
yep just borrowed his rams (ocz reaperx 2x2gb ddr3-1333) but still doesnt work. any other options on what i can with my problem??
You need ram that will not boot at CAS 7 from the SPD. The ReaperX boots at CAS 7.

ACE76
06-15-2008, 05:36 PM
Here (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/5758-dfi-ut-x48-t3rs-lanparty-living-review.html) :)


the last run was just to see how high it would go with the 9.5 multi at 1:2. I was hoping to get to 500/2000 but i was just short of that at 488/1952.

Going to try with a lower multi and see what I can get :)

That's some excellent work Clunk! I hope when my phase system is completed, that you'll help me out with my 9770 and OCZ Flex II 8-8-8 kit on this mobo...I believe it's the same memory as the Platinum EB that you used but since it has better cooling, they released it with a tighter timing...I wonder if 2.1ghz would be possible with water cooling on the memory.

Clunk
06-16-2008, 11:18 AM
Thanks :)

Not sure about the memory yet, not managed to hit the rated speed with any stability yet, so can't comment there.

I just wish they would hurry up with a 500fsb+-enabled-non-alpha-publically-available-BIOS so I can move on with the review :lol:

fireice2
06-17-2008, 01:35 AM
@karl

Hows the Hotflashed BIOS chip? :D Hot flashing really comes in handy. hehehe Hope you enjoy your new toy.

Clunk
06-20-2008, 07:27 AM
New BIOS (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/22467-post123.html) if anyone is in need. :up:

Praz
06-22-2008, 06:34 AM
E8400
DFI LP UT X48-T3RS, 06/09 BIOS
480x8.5, Memory 1600MHz
2x2GB OCZ PC3-10666 1333MHz ReaperX
XFX8800 GTS (G92)
tRD - 8.5, Memset Misreads The Value When Set Manually
Memory Speed - 1600MHZ, CPU-Z Misreports The Divider
Yellow Slots Used For Memory

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http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/main_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/main_l.jpg) http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/volt_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/volt_l.jpg)

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http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/phase_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/phase_l.jpg) http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/feature_s.jpg (http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/1600/bios/feature_l.jpg)




CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................Disabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8.5x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Enabled
CPU Clock.................................480 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude.......................800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
DRAM Speed................................400/1333
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.34375V
CPU VID Special Add Limit.................Enabled
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.837V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.543V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.144V
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt......................113
CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt......................100
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................6
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................6
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................20
All Precharge to Act......................Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................Auto
Performance Level.........................9
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh........................Auto

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DRAM Default Skew Model...................Model 3

Fine Delay Step Degree....................5ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 434ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 473ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 205ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 607ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 654ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 182ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Common CMD to CS Timing...................Auto

Praz
06-22-2008, 06:36 AM
XP SP3


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3dx Max w/V-ray
Time to render: 14min 08sec

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Praz
06-22-2008, 06:37 AM
Vista 64 Bit SP1


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3dx Max w/V-ray
Time to render: 15min 30sec

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quake6
06-22-2008, 06:52 AM
Max FSB? Nice bench's

Praz
06-22-2008, 07:02 AM
Max FSB? Nice bench's
Thanks. Don't know about the FSB yet. Haven't even had any 1x2GB sticks in it. Testing a couple more 2x2GB sets then will find out what it can do with 8GB. After that will look at 1x2GB and max FSB. The BIOS is still being tuned also. Oskar is sending several alphas versions each say. The above screenshots were done with an official version.

Roger_D25
06-22-2008, 01:20 PM
Great work Praz, thanks for posting! I had to keep remembering that your running 2 x 2GB moduls, not 2x 1GB! With that said very impressive results! I'm curious about your "Read Delay Phase Adjust" settings. I've yet to play with them much and when I have I couldn't notice any significant benchmark results or stability results. Is there any chance you would share why you ended up changing all the "Channel 1" settings to "Enabled", was it for stability or performance? Also in the BIOS screenshots you posted it looks like you have "T2 Dispatch" setting set to Disabled, but in your BIOS Settings Code you have it listed as "Auto". For the results you have posted did you have the BIOS "T2 Dispatch" setting set to "Disabled" or "Auto". Thanks again Praz for your help! Like you I'm still working with 06/09, although I've tried a couple of the new Beta's released recently.

Praz
06-22-2008, 01:32 PM
Fixed T2 Dispatch. With 2x2GB sticks it needs to be disabled. Depending on speed, both Enhance Data Transmitting and Enhance Addressing may also have to be set to Disabled. Everest shows a gain with tRD set at 8 1/2 compared to 9. The board can do a straight 8 but it requires quite a bit of increase to NB voltage to hold stability.

Praz
06-23-2008, 05:17 PM
DFI LP UT X48-T3RS, 06/09 BIOS
E8400
500x8, Memory 1666MHz
2x2GB OCZ PC3-12800 1600MHz Platinum EB
XFX8800 GTS (G92)
tRD - 8.5, Memset Misreads The Value When Set Manually
Memory Speed - 1666MHZ, CPU-Z Misreports The Divider
Yellow Slots Used For Memory

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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................Disabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Disabled
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude.......................800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
DRAM Speed................................400/1333
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.31255V
CPU VID Special Add Limit.................Enabled
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.855V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.630V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.325V
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Strong
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt......................113
CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt......................100
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................6
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................6
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................20
All Precharge to Act......................Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................Auto
Performance Level.........................9
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh........................Auto

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DRAM Default Skew Model...................Model 3

Fine Delay Step Degree....................5ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 434ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 473ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 560ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 607ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 654ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 639ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Common CMD to CS Timing...................2N



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Praz
06-23-2008, 05:18 PM
XP SP3


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Praz
06-23-2008, 05:20 PM
Vista 64 Bit SP1


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Riggs
06-23-2008, 05:53 PM
Nice results! I should have forked out the extra few dollars for this board instead of my DK x38.

disruptfam
06-24-2008, 04:40 PM
nice...!!! i want one but i want to wait for the x58 tr3 :)

Praz
06-24-2008, 06:01 PM
Thanks guys. Some OCZ 1600EB 2x1GB sticks using the 06/09 BIOS. Just a quick run to get some base settings.


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AriciU
06-24-2008, 07:28 PM
So, this board will not boot, out of the box, with the Corsair 1600C7DHX ? :(

Praz
06-24-2008, 07:32 PM
So, this board will not boot, out of the box, with the Corsair 1600C7DHX ? :(
It depends on what the SPD is programmed to boot at not the actual rating of the ram.

AriciU
06-24-2008, 07:36 PM
I see. I would greatly appreciate for anyone that's using that ram to check the SPD ratings. It would suck to spend ~400EUR and just look at the damn box. :)

Praz
06-24-2008, 07:50 PM
Ask Corsair what CAS value the ram will boot with.

AriciU
06-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Just sent them an email. Maybe DFI will address that issue though untill the 8th when i will probably buy the motherboard.

Praz
06-25-2008, 03:40 AM
The issue is already addressed, The 06/09 and later BIOS' will boot regardless of ram used. But there are still some boards for sale with an older BIOS.

disruptfam
06-25-2008, 07:13 PM
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/X48-T3R/15.JPG

is it just the x48 tr3 that has those thermalright heatsinks?

how about the x48 tr2?

Roger_D25
06-25-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm pretty sure both the T2R and T3R come with actual Thermalright heatsinks (and ability to add the HR NB block, even comes with mounting hardware to make the HR work)! I just ordered one myself and looking forward to getting it!

EDIT REASON: Idiot!

Praz
06-25-2008, 07:21 PM
The heatsink assemblies are the same on the DDR2 and DDR3 UT boards.

disruptfam
06-25-2008, 07:50 PM
ok cool so you get the hr 05 on the nb and the hr 05 that hangs out the case?


i wasn't sure because all the x48 tr2's look like this

http://www.sltech.com.au/shop/images/DFI-LPLTX48-T2R_B.jpg


cheers guys!!!

AriciU
06-25-2008, 08:06 PM
ok cool so you get the hr 05 on the nb and the hr 05 that hangs out the case?


i wasn't sure because all the x48 tr2's look like this

http://www.sltech.com.au/shop/images/DFI-LPLTX48-T2R_B.jpg


cheers guys!!!

That's the LT version. It does not come with the heatpipe cooling solution and the external heatsink. Those are only for the UT versions and i don't know if DFI has an UT X48 T2R... not in my country anyway.

disruptfam
06-25-2008, 08:11 PM
ahhhhhk i get ya there are lt and ut variants.

edit: there are no Ut dfi x48's in Aus :(

biftek.
06-25-2008, 08:32 PM
Didn't Thermalright make the X48 LT NB heat sink also though?
I'm pretty sure i remember reading that in my owners booklets and stuff.

SquidgyB
06-25-2008, 11:15 PM
As far as I know, there is no UT variant of the T2R, so you have to live with that "minotaur" heatsink assembly. The T3R comes with a "hedgehog" style heatsink for the northbridge, you'd have to buy a HR-05 to put there if you wanted one, though if you had a TRUE120, you'd probably need an HR-05 SLI so it would fit.

quake6
06-26-2008, 03:16 AM
Yes,there is UT T2R version and they are available at my place...

Praz
06-26-2008, 03:46 AM
As far as I know, there is no UT variant of the T2R
Really doubt that I have the only UT DDR2 board made.


http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/x48ut/board/box_rear_a.jpg


http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/x48ut/board/board_a.jpg

Praz
06-26-2008, 06:11 AM
Thanks goes to Fiery. All voltages, fans and temps are now displayed. A couple of the voltage readings are off though. It is being worked on.

Everest Ultimate Beta (http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestultimate_build_1412_zpx4lsk2qtn.zip)

SquidgyB
06-26-2008, 07:41 AM
Really doubt that I have the only UT DDR2 board made.

My apologies, I've only been following DDR3 boards with any interest. :up:

Matias23
06-26-2008, 07:59 AM
What is the difference between X48 UT T3R and X48 UT T3RS ?

emoners
06-26-2008, 08:13 AM
Really doubt that I have the only UT DDR2 board made.


coz DFI loves you :D

anyway, just got my UT T2R

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o34/emoners/Kents-TJ/emon_DFILanPartyUTX48-T2R02.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o34/emoners/Kents-TJ/emoners_DFILanPartyUTX48.jpg

hoping to have some free time soon...:(

AriciU
06-26-2008, 08:13 AM
What is the difference between X48 UT T3R and X48 UT T3RS ?

I'm interested in that as well. Better capacitors? :shrug:

SquidgyB
06-26-2008, 11:50 AM
I think the UT versions have a digital PWM while the LTs have an analogue one, but going on my track record with info I wouldn't quote me ;)

quake6
06-27-2008, 04:48 AM
Nope,he asked about T3RS and T3R.Probably in number of SATA connector,that was difference with DK series and difference about UT and LT is only in cooling,nothing more

SquidgyB
06-27-2008, 11:26 AM
Told you my info was untrustworthy. Add to that the fact that I apparently can't read and you get to where my post was :rofl:

Praz
06-27-2008, 09:16 PM
DFI LP UT X48-T3RS, 06/09 BIOS
E8400
480x8.5, Memory 1600MHz
2x2GB OCZ PC3-12800 1600MHz Platinum EB
2x2GB PCZ PC3-10666 1333MHz ReaperX
XFX8800 GTS (G92)
tRD - 8.3, Memset Misreads The Value When Set Manually
Memory Speed - 1600MHZ, CPU-Z Misreports The Divider


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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Disabled
Virtualization Technology.................Disabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8.5x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Enabled
CPU Clock.................................480 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude.......................800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
DRAM Speed................................400/1333
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................1.36250V
CPU VID Special Add Limit.................Enabled
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.874V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.630V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.200V
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt......................113
CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt......................100
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................6
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................6
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................20
All Precharge to Act......................7
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................60
Performance Level.........................9
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................18
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................13
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................4
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................5
ALL PRE to Refresh........................7

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DRAM Default Skew Model...................Model 3

Fine Delay Step Degree....................50ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 434ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 473ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 550ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 607ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 654ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 700ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Common CMD to CS Timing...................2N



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Praz
06-27-2008, 09:17 PM
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jugeen
06-27-2008, 10:17 PM
I think the UT versions have a digital PWM while the LTs have an analogue one, but going on my track record with info I wouldn't quote me ;)

both have digital pwm

karlpox
06-28-2008, 09:43 AM
is there a problem between this board and quad fire 3870x2? got 2 3870x2's running, but my lcd wont display anything on the pci-e 1 but the pci-e 3 works though.

AriciU
06-30-2008, 04:26 AM
Still no max FSB Praz?

NinjaZX6R
07-01-2008, 12:51 PM
Hey Guys!

*SUBSCRIBED!*

Mine will be here tomorrow hopefully. Does this come with just the cooler that sticks out the back of the case, or does it come with the large HR-05-like NB cooler as well? Newegg's picture only showed the rear heatsink.

Anyway, I'll be testing max FSB with the E8600 E0 I got today. Should be VERY exciting and I'll definitely post as soon as I can.

Still haven't seen anyone posting 550+ FSB with this, though.

-Collin-

p0tter
07-01-2008, 01:00 PM
Heatpipes done correctly.

Go DFI!

Praz
07-01-2008, 04:33 PM
Heatpipes done correctly.

Go DFI!
For sure. Compare board voltage to temperatures. I removed the finned upper portion of the NB heatsink and put a MCW30 on it.

http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/48_3/tempa.jpg

Glennswe
07-01-2008, 09:11 PM
For sure. Compare board voltage to temperatures. I removed the finned upper portion of the NB heatsink and put a MCW30 on it.

Same here, have also a MCW30 on nb and the whole system is running very cool and stable. This is heaven compared to my last board Striker 2 Extreme:mad: Thanks again DFI:) Oh and Praz, almost forgot, you are doing a wonderful with your testing, i love it! A pleasure to follow your work mate.

http://www.bandwidth.se/thumbs/7982.jpg (http://www.bandwidth.se/view/7982)

ShoNuff
07-03-2008, 07:34 AM
Hey Guys!

*SUBSCRIBED!*

Mine will be here tomorrow hopefully. Does this come with just the cooler that sticks out the back of the case, or does it come with the large HR-05-like NB cooler as well? Newegg's picture only showed the rear heatsink.

Anyway, I'll be testing max FSB with the E8600 E0 I got today. Should be VERY exciting and I'll definitely post as soon as I can.

Still haven't seen anyone posting 550+ FSB with this, though.

-Collin-

+1...let us know when you get the board. TIA

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 11:31 AM
+1...let us know when you get the board. TIA

I'm going to try to control my emotions here and just state facts, but it might be hard.

Let me start by saying I now remember why I swore I would never buy another DFI board. Actually before I even say that, I believe you guys are misrepresenting this board by showing it with the NB cooler - IT DOES NOT COME WITH IT. ONLY THE EXTERNAL ONE IS INCLUDED

Now, my complaints with this board, and there are many:

1) The extreme pain in the ass to install that stupid cooler outside of the case. It makes me think this board was never even meant to be in a case.

2) The clear CMOS jumper is RIGHT underneath the second graphics card. If you're going to use crossfire, then you won't be clearing your CMOS. To DFI: why do I have to pull out my second graphics card when Asus is kind enough to put a clear CMOS button on the back of the I/O shield?

3) More on the CMOS: I have never had to clear CMOS with my Asus Blitz Extreme. Not a single time. I can set the FSB to 700mhz, and it will still boot and default back to my original settings. Personally, I don't see what the joy in clearing CMOS every 30 seconds is and with DFI boards, you WILL be doing that.

4) I know how it's quite a controversial issue to have a windows-based flash utility, but why not give us the option? Apparently the BIOS that DFI ships with this board is useless, so, thanks for that. And thanks for not giving me a way to flash it to something semi-usable.

5) Overclocking: seems poor so far. On my Yorkfield on the Blitz, I can set 450x9 and go. No issues what-so-ever. Now I know the learning curve on this is WAY steeper, but come on...this is a joke.

What this comes down to is that I replaced a board I loved because of the promise of this latest and greatest and I wanted to give DFI a chance again. Now, I've spent $350, broken my case fan in the process or mounting this ridiculous heatsink outside of my case, and am 400mhz slower than I was on my beloved Asus Blitz Extreme.

I know you will all ask this question - why did I get this instead of I loved my other board so much? Quite simple: I'm a damn fool.

-Collin-

Gautam
07-03-2008, 11:59 AM
Your post needs a lot of proofreading. :p:

ShoNuff
07-03-2008, 12:31 PM
@NinjaZX6R...WOW...sorry to hear about all of your troubles. Thanks again for sharing your experiences. I found OPB's post on OCXtreme's website and was able to determine that the pictured HR-05-IFX (http://www.svc.com/hr-05-ifx.html) does NOT come with the board. Like you I said I would be hesitant to do another DFI board again. Now...I'm not sure? I'm just looking for the best Intel X48 chipset to run a crossfire setup...decisions...decisions...

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 01:58 PM
@NinjaZX6R...WOW...sorry to hear about all of your troubles. Thanks again for sharing your experiences. I found OPB's post on OCXtreme's website and was able to determine that the pictured HR-05-IFX (http://www.svc.com/hr-05-ifx.html) does NOT come with the board. Like you I said I would be hesitant to do another DFI board again. Now...I'm not sure? I'm just looking for the best Intel X48 chipset to run a crossfire setup...decisions...decisions...

Well, maybe I am overreacting a bit. I guess it needs a lot of time. But, I'm angry about the clear CMOS jumper. I'm at 3.8ghz now and I guess that's progress. 425x9 but 450fsb is a no go.

How the hell am I going to update my BIOS? :(

-Collin-

mrlobber
07-03-2008, 02:17 PM
Ninja, 3 things:

1. Get a 1Gb USB flash stick, make it DOS bootable (look at google, various ways of doing it) and you're free to flash whichever bios you want, to whichever board you want, and beyond.

2. Do some research first (this is not meant to be offensive :) ). Honestly, DFI have put an actual beta board out this time again (they have done it before as well) but some guys are working real hard to get things better, and they're indeed getting better (then again, I'm still personally stuck at maximum 495 fsb and... yes, DDR3 660 mhz so far with this DFI :p)

3. You did a bad job selling the Blitz Extreme. Although not as good as the P5K3 Deluxe, still in top3 of the best DDR3 boards for real extreme 2D LN2 benching (with some mods of course).

Praz
07-03-2008, 02:18 PM
BIOS flashing can be done by floppy, USB stick or in Windows 32Bit using WinFlash. If none of those options will do then the BIOS probably doesn't need to be flashed.

The few times I have a need to clear the CMOS I use either the Insert key or the onboard Reset + Power button method. Have to try awful hard to scramble the BIOS enough to have to use the CMOS Clear jumper.

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 02:41 PM
Thanks guys, actually that helps a lot. Wasn't aware of that trick for the BIOS. Making slow but sure progress. I'm at 425x9 now with ddr3-1700 at 7-7-7. Will keep pushing.

Question: which slots am I supposed to be using for crossfire? I've read that 1&3 are for 16x + 16x. I'm in 1&2!

Edit: And I didn't sell the Blitz Extreme. It's in my "backup" computer with an E8400 :)

-Collin-

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 03:12 PM
Got the latest BIOS and it's virtually identical. Can't get anywhere near 450fsb at any multiplier on this quad. Am I missing something? Does anyone have a picture of their bios settings, or are you guys all on Wolfdales?

-Collin-

Roger_D25
07-03-2008, 04:19 PM
Collin - There are some great resources for helping people get sorted with this board, there is a steep learning curve but many have worked very hard to help others to overcome this. Below are a few great links that might help you get started, not as much on quad clocking but the general info could help out? Sorry if you have already checked these out but they were very helpful to me, good luck man!

eva2000's Initial testing HERE (http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lp-ut-x48-t3rs-info-overclocking-tips-photos-6657/)

Clunk's Testing Info HERE (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/5758-dfi-ut-x48-t3rs-lanparty-living-review.html)

OCX Testing Info HERE (http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3306)

Praz
07-03-2008, 04:31 PM
Question: which slots am I supposed to be using for crossfire? I've read that 1&3 are for 16x + 16x. I'm in 1&2!

First and last slot for crossfire.

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 04:35 PM
Thanks Roger. Yes, I have scoured each of those links and that's just the problem - no one seems to be testing this board with a quad! My 9650 did 450x9 at 1.25v in my Blitz Extreme. This board will not even come close. :(

-Collin-




Collin - There are some great resources for helping people get sorted with this board, there is a steep learning curve but many have worked very hard to help others to overcome this. Below are a few great links that might help you get started, not as much on quad clocking but the general info could help out? Sorry if you have already checked these out but they were very helpful to me, good luck man!

eva2000's Initial testing HERE (http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lp-ut-x48-t3rs-info-overclocking-tips-photos-6657/)

Clunk's Testing Info HERE (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/5758-dfi-ut-x48-t3rs-lanparty-living-review.html)

OCX Testing Info HERE (http://ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3306)

Roger_D25
07-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Than once you get it sorted and running strong at 450 x 9 you'll be the first to post testing results for quads on the X48-T3R, lol! In all seriousness I'm sure someone around here is going strong with a quad on this board but I haven't seem many?

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 05:13 PM
Than once you get it sorted and running strong at 450 x 9 you'll be the first to post testing results for quads on the X48-T3R, lol! In all seriousness I'm sure someone around here is going strong with a quad on this board but I haven't seem many?

Hate to say it, but this isn't a learning curve. It's more of an unfinished motherboard that I feel shouldn't have been released to the public.

Sorry guys, it's going back. I'm out. My 1 year old P35 board put it to shame in at least 10 different ways, and for half the price.

-Collin-

eva2000
07-03-2008, 06:14 PM
Thanks Roger. Yes, I have scoured each of those links and that's just the problem - no one seems to be testing this board with a quad! My 9650 did 450x9 at 1.25v in my Blitz Extreme. This board will not even come close. :(

-Collin-

Unfortunately, i don't think you'll get close on FSB on DFI when compared to Asus for X38/X48 chipsets at least unless your cpu and board combo has a sweet spot of GTL/CPU VTT tweaking and you nail it on the head. But memory clocks/settings also play apart in max FSB ;) But DFI is working daily on bios improvements so who knows where it will end up

I tried my QX9650 L739A640 on DFI LT X38-T2R (http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lanparty-lt-x38-t2r-info-overclocking-tips-photos-56k-user-friendly-5226/) max fsb around 445-FSB http://i4memory.com/f80/qx9650-l739a640-dfi-lt-x38-t2r-air-cooled-5669/ pluck it in Asus Blitz Formula and 3d benching at 480FSB http://i4memory.com/f54/qx9650-evga-9800gx2-blitz-formula-6304/.

Seems in general max FSB declines as the number PCI-E link width increases with quads heh

P45 > P35 > X48 > X38

NinjaZX6R
07-03-2008, 07:37 PM
Unfortunately, i don't think you'll get close on FSB on DFI when compared to Asus for X38/X48 chipsets at least unless your cpu and board combo has a sweet spot of GTL/CPU VTT tweaking and you nail it on the head. But memory clocks/settings also play apart in max FSB ;) But DFI is working daily on bios improvements so who knows where it will end up

I tried my QX9650 L739A640 on DFI LT X38-T2R (http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lanparty-lt-x38-t2r-info-overclocking-tips-photos-56k-user-friendly-5226/) max fsb around 445-FSB http://i4memory.com/f80/qx9650-l739a640-dfi-lt-x38-t2r-air-cooled-5669/ pluck it in Asus Blitz Formula and 3d benching at 480FSB http://i4memory.com/f54/qx9650-evga-9800gx2-blitz-formula-6304/.

Seems in general max FSB declines as the number PCI-E link width increases with quads heh

P45 > P35 > X48 > X38

I'm seriously considering sacrificing the 16x + 16x crossfire and going with a P45 for that reason my friend.

BTW, awesome job on your posts with this board. Same to Clunk. Thanks for helping out. Unfortunately, dual core FSB does me no good on this board. :(

-Collin-

quake6
07-04-2008, 07:53 AM
If I use TR HR-05 does TR 120EX fit?

SquidgyB
07-04-2008, 12:34 PM
I'd go for an HR-05 Sli, that'd be guaranteed to fit. You'd either have to fit a standard HR-05 off centre on the NB heatsink, or bend it to be out of the way. Either way, I'm sure an HR-05 Sli would fit fine.

e: It will fit, of course, if you mount the true horizontally, and to have a fan blowing downwards when mounted in a normal case, I'm not sure you could get a fan inbetween a horizontally mounted true120 and an hr-05 to blow upwards.

Still best to go with an SLI version then I think.

quake6
07-04-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah,probably will go with HR SLI...tnx

LoWRiDeR
07-12-2008, 07:50 AM
Hey dudes,great work testing this nice little new toy.I'm a DFI lover as well, since the DFI LANPARTY NF2 ULTRA B days, and I'm building a new machine Q9450 based and would like the experts' opinion on this board combined with this quad beast.Do quads go up alright with this mobo?

Red Evil
07-12-2008, 09:09 AM
Hey dudes,great work testing this nice little new toy.I'm a DFI lover as well, since the DFI LANPARTY NF2 ULTRA B days, and I'm building a new machine Q9450 based and would like the experts' opinion on this board combined with this quad beast.Do quads go up alright with this mobo?

Isn't Q9450 pretty much limited to 4Ghz?

LoWRiDeR
07-12-2008, 09:11 AM
So I hear,I was wondering if this motherboard helps going any further

eva2000
07-12-2008, 09:25 AM
So I hear,I was wondering if this motherboard helps going any further
X48 like X38 probably won't help quad core FSB.. you probably need a good P45 board for higher FSB

ACE76
07-27-2008, 01:41 PM
X48 like X38 probably won't help quad core FSB.. you probably need a good P45 board for higher FSB

Eva, can this board go to 450-475 fsb with quads without tweaking GTL values?

jugeen
07-31-2008, 11:32 PM
725 beta bios (http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/X48BD725.zip)

LoWRiDeR
07-31-2008, 11:34 PM
725 beta bios (http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/BIOS/X48BD725.zip)

link not working

jugeen
08-01-2008, 08:48 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/134113552/X48BD725.zip.html

LoWRiDeR
08-01-2008, 08:51 AM
Many thanks dude.What improvements does this bios add to the board?

jugeen
08-01-2008, 11:53 AM
welcome! :up:

Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed system can not display with some Graphic card.
2. Optimized system O.C. function.
3. Fixed on board audio record function.
4. Fixed “Execute Disable Bit” function fail.
5. Fixed USB keyboard fail to hot key to reload CMOS.

LOXOTPOH
08-02-2008, 11:50 AM
Hello. I address on this forum for the first time and I hope to me will help with my problem.
My configuration:
E3110
X48-T3RS
2x1Gb Cellshock BLUE 1866GHz ( http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...15000U_CL8_2GB
http://www.nexthardware.com/recensioni/scheda/107.htm
)
XFX GTX260 XXX
Silverstone DA650
I CPU seems stable in OCCT in a current of 6-8 hours 450x9. My memory allows to be loaded in OS using a thong 400/1600 with pressure 1.93-1.95V... But is extremely not stable. Pressure increase leads BSOD or "the black screen" stiffens...
I used in BIOS:
CPU VID Control....................... 1.34
CPU VID Special Add Limit....... Enabled
CPU VID Special Add.................. Auto
DRAM Voltage Control.......... 1.93-1.95
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage.......... 1.51
NB Core Voltage....................... 1.63
CPU VTT Voltage...................... 1.35
DRAM Speed......................... 400/1600
PCIE Clock.................................. 101
GTL REF Voltage Control........... Enable
CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt................... 88
CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt................... 62
North Bridge GTL REF Volt............. 62
Below CAS Latency Time (tCL)......... 7
RAS # to CAS # Delay (tRCD)............7
RAS # Precharge (tRP).....................7
Precharge Delay (tRAS).................. 21
Skew Model 1,3,5 - BSOD/2,4,6,7 - Crashed in a current of 2-3 seconds OCCT.
Common CMD to CS Timing............ 1N
I have left other values by default. Whether my options are correct? What should I change?
Thanks.
I am sorry for my bad English...

Roger_D25
08-02-2008, 05:54 PM
I don't know if you have already tried but just for testing purposes try "disabling" your GTL REF Voltage Control and just use the Auto settings. I've run a few different chips on this board (QX9770, Q9550, E8400, and E8500ES) and they were all capable of 450Mhz x 9 without using GTL REF Voltages (of course all systems are different but give it a try). Besides that your voltages look resonable (except maybe disable the "CPU VID Special Add Limit"). The 400/1600 divider seems to be the most reliable and forgiving so that is fine. You could also try testing just your RAM (using bootable version of MemTest or Windows version of Memtest), just to make sure your RAM is not the problem. Last but not least, what BIOS are you currently using? By the way welcome for the forum!

G H Z
08-02-2008, 05:57 PM
Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed system can not display with some Graphic card.
2. Optimized system O.C. function.
3. Fixed on board audio record function.
4. Fixed “Execute Disable Bit” function fail.
5. Fixed USB keyboard fail to hot key to reload CMOS.

I hope this means 4870's will boot on this board now :up:

Thanks or the info :)

Praz
08-02-2008, 06:06 PM
I hope this means 4870's will boot on this board now :up:

Thanks or the info :)
Never knew the board wouldn't work with the 4870's. I've been using these cards with all versions of the BIOS that have been released to the public.

G H Z
08-02-2008, 06:17 PM
Must be nice, both of my Sapphire's won't work on this board. I'll know in a few minutes if the new version works ;)

Praz
08-02-2008, 06:23 PM
Must be nice, both of my Sapphire's won't work on this board. I'll know in a few minutes if the new version works ;)
Odd, Sapphires are what I'm using.


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G H Z
08-02-2008, 06:42 PM
I agree. Looks like I may other problems, that didn't fix it ;)

Praz
08-02-2008, 06:49 PM
I agree. Looks like I may other problems, that didn't fix it ;)
Does it not boot at all with a 4870 installed but boots with a different card?

G H Z
08-02-2008, 07:00 PM
It get's to POST code 75 or 7F depending if I hit the Del key, but no output to monitor. The board is fine, just came out of the box.

G H Z
08-02-2008, 07:28 PM
Just tested both cards in another board, they work fine. This is DFI's problem.

LoWRiDeR
08-03-2008, 12:54 AM
Guys is there any good soul following this thread willing to give me a hand with overclocking my Q9450 with this motherboard and corsair dhx ddr3 rams??I'm a bit of a noob with all these new settings and i'm a bit scared of touching stuff..If so just send me a pm so we don't flood the forum(with my stupid questions :P )

LOXOTPOH
08-03-2008, 02:02 AM
I don't know if you have already tried but just for testing purposes try "disabling" your GTL REF Voltage Control and just use the Auto settings. I've run a few different chips on this board (QX9770, Q9550, E8400, and E8500ES) and they were all capable of 450Mhz x 9 without using GTL REF Voltages (of course all systems are different but give it a try). Besides that your voltages look resonable (except maybe disable the "CPU VID Special Add Limit"). The 400/1600 divider seems to be the most reliable and forgiving so that is fine. You could also try testing just your RAM (using bootable version of MemTest or Windows version of Memtest), just to make sure your RAM is not the problem. Last but not least, what BIOS are you currently using? By the way welcome for the forum!

I used 7.14 and 7.25...
And I am confident in the stability of its processor... OCCT test "CPU" seems stable during min 8-10 hours...
Perhaps I should change your memory in the BIOS, but many settings DFI does not allow me to do it right quickly.
I spent a long time, but had not made good progress.
Today, I checked the memory of the default through Memtest of Windows - the result 0 errors...
I also appealed for help in Cellshock BLUE theme in this forum.
Thank you.

maxine
08-03-2008, 05:20 AM
What PCI-E slot are u using?. Try other....

Praz
08-06-2008, 05:37 AM
DFI LP UT X48-T3RS, 07/25 BIOS
500x8, Memory 2000MHz
E8400
2x1GB OCZ DDR3 PC3-16000 OCZ3N2000SR2GK
OCZ Core SSD - Operating System
2x Hitachi SATA RAID 0 - Aplications/Storage
SAPPHIRE 4870
Yellow Slots Used For Memory

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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Disabled
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude.......................800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................100ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
DRAM Speed................................400/1600
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................Auto 1.2200V
CPU VID Special Add Limit.................Disabled
CPU VID Special Add.......................111.57%
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.787V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.530V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.335V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Strong
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt......................113
CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt......................100
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................9
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................9
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................9
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................30
All Precharge to Act......................Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................78
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh........................Auto

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DRAM CLK Driving Strength............... Level 6
DRAM Data Driving Strength................Level 8
Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model................Model 5
Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model................Model 5

Fine Delay Step Degree....................5ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggresive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 371ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 371ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 329ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 287ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 315ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggresive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 504ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 504ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 441ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 357ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 364ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggresive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Common CMD to CS Timing...................1N



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Praz
08-06-2008, 05:38 AM
XP SP3


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Praz
08-06-2008, 05:39 AM
Vista 64 Bit SP1


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Oliver
08-06-2008, 05:40 AM
Good work Praz

Praz
08-06-2008, 05:43 AM
You're fast. Thanks.

Roger_D25
08-06-2008, 03:13 PM
Praz - Your one of the few people I've seen who enable the settings below. I just enabled the settings myself to see how it effects my settings and benchmarks. What benefits do you see from enabling these settings (being one of the few who does enable them)? I assume the main benefit is the powersavings and maybe lower tempertures?

Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled

Praz
08-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Praz - Your one of the few people I've seen who enable the settings below. I just enabled the settings myself to see how it effects my settings and benchmarks. What benefits do you see from enabling these settings (being one of the few who does enable them)? I assume the main benefit is the powersavings and maybe lower tempertures?

Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Thermal Management Control - Does nothing if the processor does not reach an excessive temperature.

PPM (EIST) Mode - Fine stepping speed and voltage throttling which I disable in Windows (Vista).

CIE Function - When VDROOP is set to enabled drops mutiplier to 6x and lowers voltage when idle. The system is completely stable so might as well take advantage of it for a 24/7 machine.

Execute Disable Bit - Designed for the prevention of buffer overflow attacks. So there is no good reason not to have it enabled on a 24/7 machine. Some claim that it causes instability. Not true. If stability becomes an issue then the system wasn't stable to begin with.

Virtualization Technology - With what I do has no effect one way or the other so I just leave it as is.

Benching I would set those differently. But for 24/7 I use the settings as posted.

quake6
08-06-2008, 04:03 PM
On your last benching with t3r,did you use 400/1600 strap? I cant go beyond 450FSB with any other strap except 400/1600 and 266/333 strap hardly make it up to 440

wilson
08-08-2008, 09:22 AM
Well im now the owner of a t3rs:up: and ive got to say its a very cool looking mobo with all the hs and fins that seem to do a good job at keeping the temp down when benching. I did take some advice from Praz and mount my mcw30 on the nb and it works a treat. My question is can i over clock ddr3 as much as ddr2 and is it better to drop the timings or up the mhz?
Thanks paul

Praz
08-08-2008, 09:33 AM
Quake6

I'm running 500FSB with the 400/1333 strap/divider. Will try to get some settings posted up in the next couple of days.

Wilson

Need to try the memory both ways to know. A lot of variables that will affect the outcome.

wilson
08-10-2008, 12:55 PM
Ok guess i need to test to find out, also can alybody post the 45nm GTL ref chart please ive got the 67% chart.
Thanks Paul.

Roger_D25
08-10-2008, 04:30 PM
Thanks Praz for above information, it was cool of you to explain those settings to me! Despite my best efforts I couldn't figure out their actual purposes (could only find definations of settings not what they did), lol!

Praz
08-11-2008, 05:32 AM
On your last benching with t3r,did you use 400/1600 strap? I cant go beyond 450FSB with any other strap except 400/1600 and 266/333 strap hardly make it up to 440
Will try to get settings posted this evening, tomorrow at the latest, as whats required to use the 400/1333 setting. There are several settings that are broke in the BIOS when using this strap/divider. If left at default or manually set wrong will result in a no-boot even at stock speeds.

wilson
08-11-2008, 07:40 AM
Will try to get settings posted this evening, tomorrow at the latest, as whats required to use the 400/1333 setting. There are several settings that are broke in the BIOS when using this strap/divider. If left at default or manually set wrong will result in a no-boot even at stock speeds.

Is that with the 609 bios as ive had c1 errors long beeps and no bootup and if that`s because of the broken straps then it will all make sence lol.
Also this is what i was after.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/wils07/gtltable-s.jpg

Praz
08-11-2008, 07:55 AM
Is that with the 609 bios as ive had c1 errors long beeps and no bootup and if that`s because of the broken straps then it will all make sence lol.
This is on the 07/25 BIOS. I haven't tried with the 06/09 but don't have any reason to think the settings would work any better with it.

wilson
08-11-2008, 08:24 AM
This is on the 07/25 BIOS. I haven't tried with the 06/09 but don't have any reason to think the settings would work any better with it.


Yep i can vouch for that i can only boot on 400/1333 strap ive even flashed to the 725 and still the same and i get error codes that arn`t in the book like 01 and 46 ???? Its very strange:yepp:
At least 725 allowed me to pass occt.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/wils07/Settings1.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg211/wils07/Pass.jpg

Praz
08-13-2008, 05:51 AM
First time trying the board past 500 FSB.

http://www.edgeofstability.com/images/8600/misc/550.jpg

Supershanks
08-13-2008, 06:30 AM
First time trying the board past 500 FSB. That's good to see had just about given up on seeing that:up: So what was the secret ??

angelicavoc
08-13-2008, 07:47 AM
Praz : nice.....what cooling do u used?

Praz
08-13-2008, 08:07 AM
That's good to see had just about given up on seeing that:up: So what was the secret ??
Answered over at Clunks.


Praz : nice.....what cooling do u used?
Water.

wilson
08-14-2008, 10:30 AM
I see 725 is now official but i thought some straps where broken? I can`t go higher with my overclock cos i don`t wanna push my 1333mhz ram above 1400mhz and it does not post if i change straps.

wilson
08-16-2008, 12:52 AM
Ok heres one for you if i have 2 hdd`s in raid 0 and i want to set up a 3rd for storoge how would i do this as the raid driver picks it up the 3rd hdd as a raid device and wont let me boot up . Do i need to enable the j-micron controller and install the driver for that? Then how do i set it up in the bios.
Cheers Paul

Supershanks
08-16-2008, 01:52 AM
Ok heres one for you if i have 2 hdd`s in raid 0 and i want to set up a 3rd for storoge how would i do this as the raid driver picks it up the 3rd hdd as a raid device and wont let me boot upyou can add a third hd & initialise it in disk mamagement, the Matrix raid controller just sees it as a seperate indipendant drive. To add a 3rd drive to a raid array, means rebuilding the raid completely.

wilson
08-16-2008, 10:16 AM
Is there a way of keeping my raid0 and using the 3rd as a storage with ide drivers? And what does convert to dynamic disk do ?

Praz
08-23-2008, 03:18 PM
DFI LP UT X48-T3RS, 07/25 BIOS
E8600
500x8, Memory 1666MHz
2x2GB OCZ DDR3 PC3-10333 OCZ3RPR1333EB4GK
OCZ Core SSD - Operating System
2x Hitachi - Applications/Storage
SAPPHIRE 4870
Yellow Slots Used For Memory

The following settings are the only ones that would allow the board to boot using 400/1333. Any other value resulted in a C1 that required the BIOS to be cleared.

Enhance Addressing - Normal
T2 Dispatch - Disabled
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting - Auto


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CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x
CPU N/2 Ratio.............................Disabled
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
CPU Clock Amplitude.......................800mV
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................100ps
CPU Clock0 Skew...........................0ps
DRAM Speed................................400/1333
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................Auto 1.2450V
CPU VID Special Add Limit.................Disabled
CPU VID Special Add.......................111.57%
DRAM Voltage Control......................1.837V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.543V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.320V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL 1/2 REF Volt......................113
CPU GTL 0/3 REF Volt......................100
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................100

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Normal
T2 Dispatch...............................Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................7
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................6
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................24
All Precharge to Act......................Auto
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................Auto
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................Auto
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................Auto
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................Auto
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............Auto
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................Auto
ALL PRE to Refresh........................Auto

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
DRAM CLK Driving Strength............... Level 6
DRAM Data Driving Strength................Level 8
Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model................Model 0
Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model................Model 0

Fine Delay Step Degree....................5ps


Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 489ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 434ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 473ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 205ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................Auto
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 686ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 607ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 654ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 182ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggresive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Common CMD to CS Timing...................1N



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Praz
08-23-2008, 03:19 PM
XP SP3


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Time to render: 12min 33sec

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Praz
08-23-2008, 03:20 PM
Vista 64 Bit SP1


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Time to render: 13min 43sec

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burn what?
08-26-2008, 06:03 PM
anyone noticed crazy temp readings with this board? using zerotherm fz120 which is the copper one and temps read into the 80C range then auto shuts off at just 1.4 vcore. had this chip in a gigabyte p35 board and at 1.5 vcore never got out of the 60C range. thinking of switching to zalman 9700 but the zerotherm is even higher rated on anandtech. adjusted the cpu temp in bios to -8C. but don't want to fry the chip either

Roger_D25
08-26-2008, 06:08 PM
Burnwhat - What chip are you using and have you tried re-mounting your heatsink a couple times (just to make sure the mount is correct)? Your temps (depending on what chip your running) are quite high to say the least so I assume there is something going on? Also what BIOS version are you running at the moment? To answer your question, no, I have not noticed any weird or abnormal temp readings and I've used a few different chips (both quad and dual cores)?

burn what?
08-26-2008, 06:16 PM
short specs:

xeon 3110
patriot ddr3 1866
2 x wd velocirators raid 0
bios 7/25

i have tried numerous re-seats of the heatsink, even tried the aluminum version from a friend with the same temp results. at stock volts running orthos small fft temps are in the mid 50's. to switch to the zalman got to take out the motherboard to seat the backplate so don't want to do that. are u using air or h2o?

burn what?
08-28-2008, 09:06 PM
fyi - zalman 9700 beats the zerotherm fz120 and the aluminum counterpart. zalman keeps temps at least in the 60's under same load/volts as the zerotherm couldn't keep it from 80's and shutting off.

nut311
08-31-2008, 04:39 AM
Vista 64 Bit SP1


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Time to render: 13min 43sec

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impressive result praz, and more OCZ is power 4GB heheheh