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SF3D
05-08-2008, 03:21 PM
FOXCONN officially launched the eagerly awaited BLACKOPS motherboard in 18th of April. Based on the Intel® X48 chipset and including unique features for extreme overclockers and enthusiasts, BLACKOPS is the second motherboard in the Quantum Force series.

“We are proud to be bringing to market aproduct of this quality – not only have we incorporated unique features neverseen before on a motherboard, but we have created a platform which is highly tunable and will certainly continue to set performance records, as we have seenin various trials over the past months” Greta Kuo, QF Product Manager, stated.

First demonstrated to media at the CES Showin Las Vegas, back in January, tried and tested by numerous overclocking teamsand enthusiasts, and demonstrated once again at last month’s CeBIT exhibitionin Germany, BLACKOPS will soon be available for enthusiasts all over the world.

Unique features for enthusiasts

BLACKOPS brings several firsts to market,and heralds major improvements in critical areas of motherboard design, including BIOS, power delivery and cooling – the revered trinity of overclocking.

The new Quantum BIOS is a quantum leap over the previous generation Gladiator BIOS found on the MARS motherboard. The new BIOS menus are intuitive and user friendly, organized ingroups of inter-related settings. Not only are there many more voltage options,but they are arranged into groups relating to the different areas that they affect … CPU, Memory, FSB, etc. Notable additions to the tweaking options are CPU PPL and GTL for quad-core overclocking – expected to be widely-used byoverclockers pushing their Core™2 Extreme and Core™2 Quad processors.

In the cooling stakes, the 4in1 Quantum Cooler is an all-copper NB-SB-VRMheatpipe solution with a difference; thanks to bundled accessories, the NorthBridge (NB) section of the cooler can be quickly adapted for passive or activeair cooling, water cooling or even extreme LN2 or dry ice cooling! According to Peter Tan, Quantum ForceTechnical Consultant, the 4in1 Quantum Cooler “is the most adaptable andeffective cooling solution ever integrated onto a motherboard”.

New power regulation offers better stability and higher output capability

The 8 phase Digital PWM provides more robust power delivery, standing up to the demands of enthusiastsand overclockers. Quantum Force engineers have spent 3 months finely-tuning and optimizing this digital system so that itoperates with better power efficiency, has a faster and more stable response tochanges in power consumption, and delivers higher current output capability tosupport extreme overclocking.

“There is no doubt that the 8-phase Digital PWM found on BLACKOPS can sustain the massive demands which will be placed onit by enthusiasts and extreme overclockers... it can even do this whilstgenerating less heat switching between different voltage requirements withgreater speed and reliability” asserts Peter Tan.

Audio circuits separated for improved audio fidelity

The new SONAR daughter Card provides professional quality audio forgames, movies and other multi-media content. Separating audio circuitry fromthe motherboard improves signal quality and eliminates interference from power regulation components. The integrated Realtek ALC885 provides 8 channels of High Definition Audio (HDA) with an impressive 106dB SNR(Signal to Noise Ratio).

Unique accessories for enthusiasts

BLACKOPS includes a range of accessories designed toprovide additional convenience and performance enhancements for overclockers.In addition to the 4in1 Quantum Cooler accessories (which include a NB fan,extension tower for LN2 cooling and water cooling block), BLACKOPS owners willalso receive variable resistors for volt-modding,the Quantum Lap motherboard tray forconvenient workbench access to all parts of the motherboard, and the Quantum Flow kit – which improves airflowaround installed VGA cards. The Quantum Flow fan can be installed in ahorizontal or vertical position, and lowers temperatures around multi-VGA rigs by around 5ºC.

Safety and convenience for overclocking

Onboard CMOS reset and power on/offbuttons, a 2-digit LED debug display and the OC Recover feature all combine tospeed up recovery time from unsuccessful overclocking attempts, whilst the new Twin BIOS feature safeguards against BIOS corruption and enables hot-swapping of BIOS chips.

Meanwhile, the BoostSwitch header, conveniently located on the motherboard near the CPU socket, enables hardware selection of CPU clock speed without entering the BIOS.

Pricing & Availability

The BLACKOPS motherboard will be available in retail channels this month, priced around US$400.
For further information about Quantum Forceand the BLACKOPS motherboard, go to http://www.quantum-force.net

Product page: http://www.quantum-force.net/Products/P000000002/

*This text is directly from quantum.force.net*

Accessory


http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00885/2058777.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058777.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00623/2058780.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058780.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00866/2058782.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058782.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00968/2058783.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058783.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00514/2058784.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058784.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00725/2058785.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058785.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00401/2058786.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058786.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00735/2058787.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058787.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00279/2058788.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058788.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00921/2058790.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058790.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00452/2058792.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058792.jpg)

You will get:
-Benchtable
-120mm Fan with Blue leds
-Soundcard
-Quick install quide, Driver cd, Manual,
-6 S-ATA cables + power adapters, backplate, Raid disk, zipties, floppy and ATA cables
-USB + Firewire expansion card.

You will also get:
-Dry ice tube, for the NB.
-Waterblock fittings
-2x variable resistors just for the fun
-Quantum Force sticker and 6x water tattoos :D
-Dog tags (identifiers)

I like those dog tags a lot (identifiers) :up:

Next post will be full of pictures about the motherboard itself.

SF3D
05-08-2008, 03:23 PM
Here is the pictures of this motherboard.

You can see the internals of that waterblock too.


http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00940/2061796.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061796.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00899/2061801.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061801.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00553/2061803.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061803.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00412/2061807.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061807.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00856/2061809.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061809.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00483/2061811.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061811.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00334/2061814.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061814.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00098/2061817.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061817.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00072/2061819.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061819.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00976/2061820.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061820.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00368/2061822.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061822.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00808/2061825.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061825.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00702/2061829.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061829.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00672/2061832.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061832.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00605/2061834.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061834.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00152/2061848.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061848.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00226/2061851.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061851.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00917/2061853.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061853.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00056/2061859.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2061859.jpg)

Next I will upload some bios pictures :up:

SF3D
05-08-2008, 03:26 PM
Here is some pictures from bios.

I will show you the main page, HW monitor page and the most important Quantum BIOS page.

You will also see how OC Gear is working.

*Sorry about the quality*


http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00118/2063459.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063459.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00544/2063461.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063461.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00287/2063463.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063463.jpg)
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http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00680/2063469.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063469.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00079/2063471.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063471.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00244/2063472.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063472.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00575/2063474.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063474.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00331/2063476.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063476.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00732/2063477.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063477.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00031/2063478.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063478.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00043/2063479.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063479.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00307/2063480.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063480.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00440/2063481.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063481.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00441/2063487.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063487.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00499/2063483.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063483.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00754/2063488.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063488.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00328/2063490.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063490.jpg)
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00009/2063491.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2063491.jpg)

dexaroni
05-08-2008, 03:32 PM
Holy crap this is awesome.

Where can I buy this board? I have been wanting one since I heard about it back in March, and although it was released back in April, I can't find it ANYWHERE.

Anyways, bookmarking this thread for future updates... looking forward to them!

Crazystang01
05-08-2008, 03:37 PM
Cant wait for this to hit US retailers. Been following this board since shown way back in Jan and been checking just about everyday since the April 18 release for it on etailers sites. I know its here soon but damn come on. COME OUT :D . Already downloaded the manual for it and everything.

TedShred
05-08-2008, 03:40 PM
Looks like that cool-looking panel isn't in the mix. Nonetheless, I have a funny feeling my mastercard account will be taking a $400US hit sometime soon.

Edit: any chance of running DDR2 on this thing?

Edit: looks like no http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01/11/more_details_on_foxconn_black_ops/1

jinst4
05-08-2008, 05:42 PM
oh nice, i want one.

dinos22
05-08-2008, 05:44 PM
wow pretty sweet :up:

TheGoat Eater
05-08-2008, 06:17 PM
I want one - now if I can find one in stock... (drooling on keyboard)

DFectuoso
05-08-2008, 07:13 PM
Thats a niiiiice mobo.... me wanna....

SF3D
05-08-2008, 10:02 PM
Holy crap this is awesome.

Where can I buy this board? I have been wanting one since I heard about it back in March, and although it was released back in April, I can't find it ANYWHERE.

Anyways, bookmarking this thread for future updates... looking forward to them!

These should be available soon worldwide :up:


Cant wait for this to hit US retailers. Been following this board since shown way back in Jan and been checking just about everyday since the April 18 release for it on etailers sites. I know its here soon but damn come on. COME OUT :D . Already downloaded the manual for it and everything.

Just wait a bit more. You wont be disappointed :D


Looks like that cool-looking panel isn't in the mix. Nonetheless, I have a funny feeling my mastercard account will be taking a $400US hit sometime soon.

Edit: any chance of running DDR2 on this thing?

Edit: looks like no http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01/11/more_details_on_foxconn_black_ops/1

Yes. This board is DDR3 only.


oh nice, i want one.

Who wouldn't :D


wow pretty sweet :up:

Yes it is :D


I want one - now if I can find one in stock... (drooling on keyboard)

Waiting is boring, but be patient :D


Thats a niiiiice mobo.... me wanna....

Same goes with this...


I do hope, that this motheboard will soon hit the retailers worldwide. There must be huge amount of overclockers/users waiting this mobo :(

More pictures coming later today :up:

begrip
05-08-2008, 10:10 PM
wow! get variable resistors! this is screaming overclocking :D

hipro5
05-08-2008, 10:15 PM
:up:

I want another one..... :D
No kiding but some of the guys who will buy this mobo, will start to "accuse" it because they will find it a bit "difficult" compared to what they are used to up to now...Be patttient and "understand" how it works......Some of us will upload guides for you for start, not to be confused and start "smoothly".... ;)
I'm telling you this:
"When you "understand" and know how to work with it, there is NO TURNING BACK to anything other"...... ;)

EDIT: At this point I HAVE to congrat Shamino aka Peter for his great work and effort ON this mobo and ALSO the bios engineers of it who were pussed hard by us providing EVEN THREE bioses a day..... :D:up:

dinos22
05-08-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm telling you this:
"When you "understand" and know how to work with it, there is NO TURNING BACK to anything other"...... ;)[/B]

didn't think i'd see the day when hipro turns his back on Asus
these boards must be damn good

i know what you mean when you say be patient and learn the board....i feel like that about 790i boards....they are crazy good but they do have some usual quirks which upset a lot of wannabe OCers who don't like it when they get a curve ball :ROTF::D

hipro5
05-08-2008, 10:28 PM
didn't think i'd see the day when hipro turns his back on Asus
these boards must be damn good

i know what you mean when you say be patient and learn the board....i feel like that about 790i boards....they are crazy good but they do have some usual quirks which upset a lot of wannabe OCers who don't like it when they get a curve ball :ROTF::D

I'm not turning my back on anyone.... :D:p:
I just LOVE this board.....It just remainds my of the good old days of ABIT IC7..... :D
PLUS (and to be honnest with this), I have ~100 - 150MHz better overclockability AND stabillity at max frequency under LN2 than any other mobo(not calling names)...... ;)
So, what whould you "prefair" when competition "hits" you?....5800MHz 3Ds OR 6000MHz 3Ds?.... :D

dinos22
05-08-2008, 10:30 PM
heheh i know what you meant
i worded my post poorly

:)

s0lid
05-08-2008, 11:34 PM
There is more bundle than u can carry :ROTF:

Great review SF3D :up:

Trouffman
05-09-2008, 12:05 AM
EDIT: At this point I HAVE to congrat Shamino aka Peter for his great work and effort ON this mobo and ALSO the bios engineers of it who were pussed hard by us providing EVEN THREE bioses a day..... :D:up:

:rofl: I remenber that :D

1st mail :

Hey guys news bois attached

2nd mail :

Hey guys, another new bios with better memory timign attached

3rd mail :

New bios fixing issues attached

answers :


Oh yeah it's work better with this bios... Which versionare you speaking about ? :ROTF:

Congratz again Shamino !

fng77
05-09-2008, 12:41 AM
That is a nice board

typekill
05-09-2008, 01:09 AM
awesome bundle! you even get an benchtable with it! cheap one though, but still :D This might be my next mobo :D

LardArse
05-09-2008, 02:28 AM
Its all thanks to the scholars feedback, registers to open up in memory settings from Before, bugs catching from everyone, so much better than the testing team here :D

SF3D
05-09-2008, 02:33 AM
:up:

I want another one..... :D
No kiding but some of the guys who will buy this mobo, will start to "accuse" it because they will find it a bit "difficult" compared to what they are used to up to now...Be patttient and "understand" how it works......Some of us will upload guides for you for start, not to be confused and start "smoothly".... ;)
I'm telling you this:
"When you "understand" and know how to work with it, there is NO TURNING BACK to anything other"...... ;)

EDIT: At this point I HAVE to congrat Shamino aka Peter for his great work and effort ON this mobo and ALSO the bios engineers of it who were pussed hard by us providing EVEN THREE bioses a day..... :D:up:

This is so true :D Some users will have problems with this board, but when you just try different combination, you start to understand how impressive motherboard this is.

I have played 6 months with this mobo and I think, that now I know it well enough :up:


wow! get variable resistors! this is screaming overclocking :D

This is nice move by Foxconn ;)


There is more bundle than u can carry :ROTF:

Great review SF3D :up:

Thanks! I hope, that we get these boards to Finland too.


:rofl: I remenber that :D

1st mail :
2nd mail :
3rd mail :
answers :
Which versionare you speaking about ? :ROTF:

Congratz again Shamino !

Bios support have been relly great. Too bad my mobo didn't work with newer bios than early 7.bin :shrug:

I can see the difference now, when using this retail version and 3 months younger bios :D


That is a nice board

Thanks to Shamino and Foxconn!


awesome bundle! you even get an benchtable with it! cheap one though, but still :D This might be my next mobo :D

This benchtable is better than nothing. I like it.

SF3D
05-09-2008, 02:37 AM
Its all thanks to the scholars feedback, registers to open up in memory settings from Before, bugs catching from everyone, so much better than the testing team here :D

I hope your test team there won't read this :D

You can see the pictures now? I'm at work now, so those pics of motherboard and bios is coming later today.

This have been really exciting project. I have got new friends and best part is these great mobos you have sended to me.

One millionth time I have to say - Thank you Peter! :up:

LardArse
05-09-2008, 02:44 AM
You can see the pictures now?

yes, i guess some links are blocked from my server here...

rdrash
05-09-2008, 03:03 AM
very sexy indeed....

I wish this motherboard was avilable in Korea...I had my friend in Japan check too, only available via private import is what he was told....

I will have to wait longer it seems...

Harshal
05-09-2008, 03:06 AM
Congrats to Sham!! Many thanks to overclockers from around the world to make this one shine more then anything else. :up:
Nice bundle too :D

dexaroni
05-09-2008, 03:59 AM
Oh man, this thing gets better and better every time I see it!

Few questions for you if you don't mind answering them.

First, is the waterblock made of pure copper or is it some kind of plated alloy? It looks amazing but I have to make sure it will run safe in my loop ;)

On that same note, how is the contact. We have all seen the Asus Maximus Extreme and many of us have noticed that there is not nearly enough contact (or just crappy cement) between the block and the NB, which rendered all the goodness of watercooling useless. Does this waterblock perform equally to an aftermarket one say from Danger Den or EK?

Third, please tell me that auto overclocking isn't present, or at least not turned on by default.

Anyways, thanks for the pics, I am not the most accomplished overclocker, however this board looks badass enough for me to step up my game :P

mikey976
05-09-2008, 04:13 AM
wow thats looking out for the enthusiast with the benchtable no more using the mobo box. tho i can definitly forsee the near future quite a few going up for sale...

jesperme
05-09-2008, 04:46 AM
That is what I call a bundle!:shocked:

AnXioZ
05-09-2008, 06:08 AM
This looks astonishing indeed. But is it worth the 400$ if one is to use it on air/watter and not for Xtreme OCin with LN2?

s0lid
05-09-2008, 06:53 AM
Thanks! I hope, that we get these boards to Finland too.


Ye me too :D

FuriousSalesman
05-09-2008, 06:57 AM
The Foxconn site shows that the Blackops has support for DDR3 1600. What would happen if you put in 1800,1866, 2000 mhz ram?

TedShred
05-09-2008, 07:16 AM
Someone mentioned this already, but it would be great to get more info on the NB waterblock.

SF3D
05-09-2008, 08:18 AM
Second post updated.

You can see the waterblock internals. That is pure copper you see in there. I think it does pretty good job. Power circuit and SB is cooled a bit also.

You can use whatever DDR3 memory you like, but when talking about Intel chipset, you can only use 1:2 setting or lower divider. There is no unlinked moe in these chipsets. You have take your fsb higher, if you like to use higher memory speeds. (500fsb = 1000MHz ram, 2GHz effective)

I really think that this mobo is worth every penny :) *Yes, I do test other motherboards aswell, so my option is not so much biased*

NBF
05-09-2008, 08:42 AM
Awesome bundle!!! I love it.

We all know that is the perfect mobo for Xtreme, has the touch of the best OCers, but we will have to wait to see how it does in the hands of an "average Joe".

I wonder how It will perform with locked multi processors and "normal" Air/WC systems.

But I have lot's of time to wait the reports, sadly it will take forever before it arrives in Brazil. :rofl: :ROTF:

[ ]s

Oliver
05-09-2008, 08:57 AM
Good to see the retail bundle, i have patience been waiting to see the bundle, i was told that it would shock me and i can only say that it did...

Impressive work Peter-tan, Foxconn and all the quantum guys that have helped to born the sweet board...

Looking forward to play with one...

Keep tearing it up...

SF3D
05-09-2008, 09:32 AM
Awesome bundle!!! I love it.

We all know that is the perfect mobo for Xtreme, has the touch of the best OCers, but we will have to wait to see how it does in the hands of an "average Joe".

I wonder how It will perform with locked multi processors and "normal" Air/WC systems.

But I have lot's of time to wait the reports, sadly it will take forever before it arrives in Brazil. :rofl: :ROTF:

[ ]s

I have played six months with this motherboard and obviously I can't use LN2 24/7 :D This board does really well with air and water. Believe me :up:

TedShred
05-09-2008, 10:12 AM
This might be a silly question, but what's that 32-bit raid floppy all about? Do you absolutely need it to set up raid? Does it come in a CD/DVD? Thanks (And thanks for the mobo pics - lookin' good!)

http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2058783.jpg

edit: i'm thinkin' it's just the floppy version of the included disc (ie and this was a silly question)?

benniebeeker
05-09-2008, 10:21 AM
ill take 2 please!!!

SF3D
05-09-2008, 01:18 PM
I updated third post in the first page. There is now pictures from BIOS :up:




This might be a silly question, but what's that 32-bit raid floppy all about? Do you absolutely need it to set up raid? Does it come in a CD/DVD? Thanks (And thanks for the mobo pics - lookin' good!)

edit: i'm thinkin' it's just the floppy version of the included disc (ie and this was a silly question)?

There is no silly questions. You answered to yourself.


ill take 2 please!!!

:D

Solarfall
05-09-2008, 01:35 PM
I updated third post in the first page. There is now pictures from BIOS :up:





There is no silly questions. You answered to yourself.



:D

OMG this board redefines HW :banana::banana::banana::banana: :yepp::yepp::yepp:...love the bios features, love the bundle.. love pretty much everything im seeing here :D:D
btw does this board show negative temperatures in bios...?? my foxconn mars board just refuses to do that :shakes:

nice review petri keep up the good work.

mrlobber
05-09-2008, 01:38 PM
SF3D, any changes in dualcore 45nm overclockability in retail version compared to "prerelease" versions? Or is the sweet spot around 550fsb, just like with all the other X48 boards?

overcrash
05-09-2008, 01:58 PM
SF3D, any changes in dualcore 45nm overclockability in retail version compared to "prerelease" versions? Or is the sweet spot around 550fsb, just like with all the other X48 boards?

I would like to know that as well, I have E8200 capable of 650 FSB

SF3D
05-09-2008, 02:20 PM
OMG this board redefines HW :banana::banana::banana::banana: :yepp::yepp::yepp:...love the bios features, love the bundle.. love pretty much everything im seeing here :D:D
btw does this board show negative temperatures in bios...?? my foxconn mars board just refuses to do that :shakes:

nice review petri keep up the good work.

Thanks!
My pre release board showed only -40c, but this retail version might be different.


SF3D, any changes in dualcore 45nm overclockability in retail version compared to "prerelease" versions? Or is the sweet spot around 550fsb, just like with all the other X48 boards?


I would like to know that as well, I have E8200 capable of 650 FSB

I will try to find some time to test Dual core. I have one E8500 that is cabable of doing 610 fsb on air (on a different mobo) :up:

lazy
05-09-2008, 02:21 PM
Thats a nice looking board and gotta love that bench table that comes with it

Deanzo
05-09-2008, 03:39 PM
Hey SF3D

I know the pre release board didn't have that cooler on the NB, but do you know if any of the guys have tried the retail cooler with LN2 ?

I'd like to know how they got on with insulating it, doesn't seem to be much room around the 3 points in red.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9710/blackopssg3.jpg

dexaroni
05-09-2008, 05:49 PM
HOT DAMN Phoenix Award bios!

Always preferred them to their counterparts, some are more intuitive some say but I will always love Award!

Awesome to see the block is copper, the board looks AMAZING!

I don't think I have ever been this excited about a hardware release but, this time I am!

Planet
05-09-2008, 08:35 PM
Hey SF3D

I know the pre release board didn't have that cooler on the NB, but do you know if any of the guys have tried the retail cooler with LN2 ?

I'd like to know how they got on with insulating it, doesn't seem to be much room around the 3 points in red.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9710/blackopssg3.jpg

I have one of the ES board with a ES NB and it was super easy to insulate. You just gotta cut around those areas and then insulate around the block itself.

TedShred
05-09-2008, 08:48 PM
...There is no silly question...

That's very gracious - appreciated!

On that note :p:... I'm looking at what I think are the (blue) hdd/sata power outlets
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh70/diggermats/foxconnhdd-1.jpg

I think there's a good chance my lower GPU will be sitting right on top of them. I guess that's where those "L" sata cable connectors come in. I'm not familiar with the "L" shape connectors, but unless they plug into the mobo in both directions, I'm not sure I could fit more than 3 of 'em in under this big gpu? (Which is ok now, but I'm thinkin' of getting a 4th HDD.) Do those cables "go both ways" like that?

Cheers,

systemviper
05-09-2008, 09:41 PM
Is it available in the USA yet, and if not where should i keep checking...

hipro5
05-09-2008, 10:01 PM
Oh man, this thing gets better and better every time I see it!

Few questions for you if you don't mind answering them.

First, is the waterblock made of pure copper or is it some kind of plated alloy? It looks amazing but I have to make sure it will run safe in my loop ;)

On that same note, how is the contact. We have all seen the Asus Maximus Extreme and many of us have noticed that there is not nearly enough contact (or just crappy cement) between the block and the NB, which rendered all the goodness of watercooling useless. Does this waterblock perform equally to an aftermarket one say from Danger Den or EK?

Third, please tell me that auto overclocking isn't present, or at least not turned on by default.

Anyways, thanks for the pics, I am not the most accomplished overclocker, however this board looks badass enough for me to step up my game :P


Water block is PURE COOPER as I can feel/weight it....with a perfect inside design too..... ;)

DO NOT REMOVE it because the contact of it is PERFECT......
With a Swiftech cooper(base 1mm thick and alum (fins) heatsink and a DELTA fan 4 x 4cm at 10000rpms , I have 36*C on the Northbridge at 1.6Volts......With the default heatsink/block with a delta fan on it too(I have unscrewed the top of the block), I have 33*C...... ;)

Waterblock has a perfect inside design (sophisticated well) with internal cooper fins..... ;)

Auto overclocking?.....I don't think so..... :D

systemviper
05-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Auto overclocking?.....I don't think so :down:

what the fun in that, gee i pushed an
extreme "button"

I am the Extreme button pusher :up:

I want that board, when, where , how.......
soon?

TedShred
05-09-2008, 10:21 PM
Water block is PURE COOPER as I can feel/weight it....with a perfect inside design too..... ;)

DO NOT REMOVE it because the contact of it is PERFECT......
With a Swiftech cooper(base 1mm thick and alum (fins) heatsink and a DELTA fan 4 x 4cm at 10000rpms , I have 36*C on the Northbridge at 1.6Volts......With the default heatsink/block with a delta fan on it too(I have unscrewed the top of the block), I have 33*C...... ;)

Waterblock has a perfect inside design (sophisticated well) with internal cooper fins..... ;)

Auto overclocking?.....I don't think so..... :D

Oh man, my right arm to even see NB temps in the 40s! I'm really liking the sounds of the cooling setup.:up:

SF3D
05-10-2008, 12:56 AM
That's very gracious - appreciated!

On that note :p:... I'm looking at what I think are the (blue) hdd/sata power outlets
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh70/diggermats/foxconnhdd-1.jpg

I think there's a good chance my lower GPU will be sitting right on top of them. I guess that's where those "L" sata cable connectors come in. I'm not familiar with the "L" shape connectors, but unless they plug into the mobo in both directions, I'm not sure I could fit more than 3 of 'em in under this big gpu? (Which is ok now, but I'm thinkin' of getting a 4th HDD.) Do those cables "go both ways" like that?

Cheers,

I have used 3 S-ATA cables all the time. Two L-shaped and one normal. There is no problems with those cables and todays vgas. (3870X2 and 9800GX2)


One nice picture for all the scholars out there :up:

Great team indeed!

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00164/2064134.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2064134.jpg)

TedShred
05-10-2008, 01:11 AM
I have used 3 S-ATA cables all the time. Two L-shaped and one normal. There is no problems with those cables and todays vgas. (3870X2 and 9800GX2)



Thanks SF3D. Just to clarify, although I'm pretty sure I'll be ok with 3 cables plugged in, would there be enough room for 4-6 being under the GPU? Or did you mean 2 L's and a normal cable in each row?

Cheers

nachthymnen
05-10-2008, 01:34 AM
Fantastic 3d Sf3d:clap:
I hope to find 1 of these awesome mainboard very soon.:D
The bundle is absolutely incredble:eek::up:

dj.oxa
05-10-2008, 04:36 AM
bundle is w00t:clap:
very nice mobo,must try one

s0lid
05-10-2008, 07:22 AM
Is there anymore that feature which said next to mhz calc something like: "Godlike". ect :D?
Saw that in some picture but can't find it now...

Dat was refreshing idea in OCing biosses :p

Planet
05-10-2008, 08:25 AM
Is there anymore that feature which said next to mhz calc something like: "Godlike". ect :D?
Saw that in some picture but can't find it now...

Dat was refreshing idea in OCing biosses :p

Yea there are some OC motivators. Like 4.5GHz it says keep pushing it. I will take some pics for ya in a bit.

BulldogPO
05-10-2008, 10:50 AM
I just have to get one for review!
(SF3D can you help?)

SF3D
05-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Yea there are some OC motivators. Like 4.5GHz it says keep pushing it. I will take some pics for ya in a bit.

Take some pics, so I don't have to :D


I just have to get one for review!
(SF3D can you help?)

Yes I can help you, but you have to wait a bit. Do you like to test new G.Skill DDR3 HZ 4GB set too :D

You know my e-mail ;)

Planet
05-10-2008, 01:48 PM
Take some pics, so I don't have to :D



Yes I can help you, but you have to wait a bit. Do you like to test new G.Skill DDR3 HZ 4GB set too :D

You know my e-mail ;)

Here you go mate

http://71.172.75.3:8080/untitled-3.gif

maneta
05-10-2008, 02:34 PM
Congrats Pedro Rocha! :shocked:


PORTUGAL!!!!!!

Aldy402
05-10-2008, 09:41 PM
anybody got a MSRP?

Planet
05-10-2008, 09:50 PM
Showing 399 at ZZF at the moment.

Razor_Blade
05-10-2008, 11:54 PM
Thanks for the DETAILED pictures. This board, as well as Foxconn, has caught my interest. I somehow didn't expect a detailed and complete retail package. I don't know why...

Razor_Blade
05-10-2008, 11:56 PM
Here you go mate

http://71.172.75.3:8080/untitled-3.gif

LOL!! Best bios feature EVER!!!

hipro5
05-11-2008, 05:02 AM
Some bios shots as I work it with the CellShock or with the GSKILL rams with the D9GTR Micron Ram chips are in the link below.... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/showthread.php?t=50822


.

surrealX
05-11-2008, 11:38 AM
Sweet board. The bundle that comes with it is awesome.

SF3D
05-11-2008, 01:45 PM
Some bios shots as I work it with the CellShock or with the GSKILL rams with the D9GTR Micron Ram chips are in the link below.... :)

http://www.thelab.gr/showthread.php?t=50822


.

Thanks for the link. Those are the best settings for D9GTR for sure. I have tested both G.Skill and Cellshock at those settings too :up:

Uberbob102000
05-11-2008, 02:06 PM
I really want to ditch my 790i + 2nd GX2 now to get one of these.

FuriousSalesman
05-11-2008, 02:24 PM
I really want to ditch my 790i + 2nd GX2 now to get one of these.

Same here. I can't stand my 790i right now. This looks like a real awesome board.

coolice
05-11-2008, 08:28 PM
guys,any idea how does this board gtl ref setting differ with dfi's?
-31~+31 step vs 0~255

s0lid
05-11-2008, 09:00 PM
Here you go mate

http://71.172.75.3:8080/untitled-3.gif

U missed 600fsb :D

LardArse
05-11-2008, 09:13 PM
guys,any idea how does this board gtl ref setting differ with dfi's?
-31~+31 step vs 0~255

it is increasing the fraction...
for example gtlref is like 0.66 x vtt
so + 1 step is like 0.6605 x vtt
something like that

coolice
05-11-2008, 09:28 PM
it is increasing the fraction...
for example gtlref is like 0.66 x vtt
so + 1 step is like 0.6605 x vtt
something like that

thanks peter
so between each step is 0.0005?

xbrian88
05-12-2008, 04:55 AM
Today finally I could spend a little more to this super motherboard signed Foxconn belonging to the category Quantum Force ... as more than a week that is at home ... ready to be placed under press

As you know, our QX does not promise anything good, but the mobo has shown excellent stability ...Thank's Peter;)



http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c7c839b1b3.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c7c849c932.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c7c85813c3.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c7d7670e7e.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c78e59b934.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c78e418775.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c78e35c944.jpg


http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=358677&nocache=1
Validate (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=358677)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=358676&nocache=1
Validate (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=358676)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=358673&nocache=1
Validate (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=358673)

Some superpi to understand this X48


http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/14824a8f1421fd.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/14824a8f004598.jpg

http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/14824a8ef1b0c8.jpg
INFO QUI (http://www.hwmania.org/forum/foxconn-supporto-ufficiale-italiano/2773-thread-ufficiale-foxconn-blackops-4.html) e QUI (http://www.hwmania.org/forum/overclock/2914-foxconn-blackops-primi-giri.html)

Nulpunt
05-12-2008, 08:21 AM
Nice board indeed

Last saterday we did some Ln2 testing
No big results,next time i will :)

Some words about the Blackops!

*Amazing bios funtions :)
*Works well,stabilty we working on many options in bios,i am studying!
ervery day i find something new it just get faster and faster!
*so next time where gonna hit some serieus speeds!
*mind blowing chipset cooler!

2 thumbs up!
Thnx for the support peter,

Some pics 2 :)

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff160/Chris_de_weerd/DSC01282.jpg
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff160/Chris_de_weerd/DSC01288.jpg

s0lid
05-12-2008, 11:17 AM
http://www.hwmania.org/forum/imagehosting/1481c7d7670e7e.jpg

Spot a typo and i'll give u an a medal :D

Shami, shami U should fire that one who desinged those cardboard covers :ROTF:

Nulpunt
05-12-2008, 11:21 AM
active /passive cooling must be passive/active


:)

s0lid
05-12-2008, 11:28 AM
active /passive cooling must be passive/active


:)

ur medal sire: http://www.hwbot.org/img/trophy-medal.gif :ROTF:

Nulpunt
05-12-2008, 09:11 PM
:YIPPIE:

Anyways if thats all its not so bad,
i think peter :slap: the coworker already

camouflage
05-13-2008, 12:54 AM
:D Nice - any tests with a Wolfdale?:confused:

SF3D
05-13-2008, 04:56 AM
Nulpunt- Thanks for the pics :up:



:D Nice - any tests with a Wolfdale?:confused:

I will start to test E8500 tonight. Chip can do 610fsb on air, so it is not limiting here. My older blackops was a lot better with tight timings and low (400- 450fsb) fsb. That was with quad of course.

xbrian88
05-13-2008, 05:18 AM
you must change bios because with wolfdale you can not change multiplier ... even put many x6

Solarfall
05-13-2008, 05:21 AM
I will start to test E8500 tonight. Chip can do 610fsb on air, so it is not limiting here. My older blackops was a lot better with tight timings and low (400- 450fsb) fsb. That was with quad of course.


EXCELLENT !!!!!!!...... im looking forward on seeing some dual core clocking :D:D:D:D:D

LardArse
05-13-2008, 05:42 AM
you must change bios because with wolfdale you can not change multiplier ... even put many x6

did u try the latest bios yet?

xbrian88
05-13-2008, 06:29 AM
try this afternoon;)

xbrian88
05-13-2008, 11:11 AM
then, the g20 and p03 see the multiplier with wolfdale, but not go up ... stops in 520x6 of fsb which is a nullity than I did on the 790i, 600mhz always with that processor.

an anomaly known ... 2T imposed by bios and in windows I 1T notes, both with the cellshock that with kingston

systemviper
05-13-2008, 09:26 PM
that board looks sweet, when oh when will they be available in the usa...

T_M
05-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Thanks for the screenshots George, they'll help kick start me this weekend

hipro5
05-13-2008, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the screenshots George, they'll help kick start me this weekend

You're welcome M8.... :)

......and Shamino WHAT HAVE YOU DONE my friend?..... :D
I see here some people "fighting" for a motherboard...... :D


EDIT: I riped the Northbridge heatsink and have cuted the heatpipes of it so to keep onto board the Mos-Fet cooling and the South cooling....On it's place I have placed a Swiftech heatsink with a DELTA 4 x 4cm 10000rpms......DON'T DO IT.....I LOST ~ 3 - 5*C of the Northbridge..... :(
With higher VNorth and default heatsink I was ~41*C and now I'm ~45*C...... :(
EVERYTHING IS PURE COOPER there.....I have "scratched" the heatpipes and the North block and they are pure cooper......NO "painted" aluminum..... :)

4Qman
05-14-2008, 12:16 AM
wow this board really is creating a stir ...

Awesome design and awesome bios. I think maybe we have a new level for the competition to reach.

Well done to everyone involved in creating such a overclocking masterpiece. Now i think ill go and look to find one to buy for myself :D

David

George_o/c
05-14-2008, 12:28 AM
EDIT: I riped the Northbridge heatsink and have cuted the heatpipes of it so to keep onto board the Mos-Fet cooling and the South cooling....On it's place I have placed a Swiftech heatsink with a DELTA 4 x 4cm 10000rpms......DON'T DO IT.....I LOST ~ 3 - 5*C of the Northbridge..... :(
With higher VNorth and default heatsink I was ~41*C and now I'm ~45*C...... :(
EVERYTHING IS PURE COOPER there.....I have "scratched" the heatpipes and the North block and they are pure cooper......NO "painted" aluminum..... :)

Wow ! :( 3 to 5 degrees, that's well, a lot ! :(
As for the copper, that's good to hear, thanks for the heads up ;) :)

ownage
05-14-2008, 01:48 AM
As you all can see people, the dutch overclocking community is sooo nice! :toast:

Catz
05-14-2008, 01:49 AM
Edit: i'm not even gonna respond to that

SF3D
05-14-2008, 01:58 AM
Like Peter suggested, these private matters should be discussed privately. I'm asking it too.
Some cleaning could be done, if some mod have time.
Thank you!

Now, let's talk about this great pice of hardware :D

camouflage
05-14-2008, 02:27 AM
then, the g20 and p03 see the multiplier with wolfdale, but not go up ... stops in 520x6 of fsb which is a nullity than I did on the 790i, 600mhz always with that processor.

an anomaly known ... 2T imposed by bios and in windows I 1T notes, both with the cellshock that with kingston

:confused: Huh..... - not even 520 FSB? WTF..........:mad:

Can't imagine that this great board dosn't do it............

I'm running an E8500, up to 8.5 x 542 FSB with 5:8 divider on ASUS MAXIMUS EXTREME - my RAM also runs 1000MHz on that board with 1:2 divider - and I'm very interested in buying a BLACKOPS but I need at least 500 FSB...:rolleyes:

So is there a special trick? Anyone else with other / further tests done on BLACKOPS with a WOLFDALE?

:welcome:

Catz
05-14-2008, 02:59 AM
Theoreticly this bord is PERFECT.

To bad theory isn't always the real matter. I'm not saying this is a bad board because it's not! It's just not as perfect as foxconn had wanted. Not as high fsb as expected and not very stable with graphic cards.

I think foxconn tried to deliver the ultimate motherboard and partially they did but there are many things that could be improved :up:

massman
05-14-2008, 03:49 AM
It's tuned for quadcore overclocking, not for wolfdale overclocking. The low FSB with wolfies is due to the chipset, not due to Foxconn quality.

camouflage
05-14-2008, 04:12 AM
It's tuned for quadcore overclocking, not for wolfdale overclocking. The low FSB with wolfies is due to the chipset, not due to Foxconn quality.

:confused: Due to the chipset? X48 is a further step from X38, and I'm running up to 550 FSB with WOLFDALE on X38.........:rolleyes: - so where is the improvement in developing X48........:shrug:

SF3D
05-14-2008, 04:18 AM
We all like "it" tight :up:

Massman is right here. This motherboard is tuned for quad core and really tight mem and chipset latencies.

It is really easy to run this board at 266 strap and PL5 (6-6-5-14 / 7-6-5-14 / 7-6-6-15).

I will test Wolfdale (E8500) today. Yesterday I found time to throw it in and test it 10 minutes. 500fsb was just fine.

massman
05-14-2008, 04:38 AM
:confused: Due to the chipset? X48 is a further step from X38, and I'm running up to 550 FSB with WOLFDALE on X38.........:rolleyes: - so where is the improvement in developing X48........:shrug:

P965 is even older than your X35, my dfi P35 uses an older chipset ... where is the improvement?

That's right! Not every new technology beats the older tech on every level!

DMH
05-14-2008, 05:48 AM
:confused: Due to the chipset? X48 is a further step from X38, and I'm running up to 550 FSB with WOLFDALE on X38.........:rolleyes: - so where is the improvement in developing X48........:shrug:

Not every X38 go that high in FSB;)

NBF
05-14-2008, 05:56 AM
Blackops is a board with optimal performance per clock, maybe not the best clocking for the fsb hungry Wolfdales, for that task I think the Foxconn Dreadnought will be a better choice.

[ ]s

SF3D
05-14-2008, 07:01 AM
Here is the overclocking and HW monitoring tool for BlackOPS.

It's called Aegis Panel

It is working in real time, so no need to restart or anything stupid, like in some similar programs.


http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00662/2086358.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2086358.jpg)

dexaroni
05-14-2008, 07:09 AM
Question, I am confused as to what Remcokatz said about this board not being very good with graphics cards.

I have never heard of this before, but is there some issue with this board as far as gaming goes? While I am an enthusiast overclocker, this board will work just fine for gaming, am I right in that assumption?

camouflage
05-14-2008, 07:42 AM
We all like "it" tight :up:

Massman is right here. This motherboard is tuned for quad core and really tight mem and chipset latencies.

It is really easy to run this board at 266 strap and PL5 (6-6-5-14 / 7-6-5-14 / 7-6-6-15).

I will test Wolfdale (E8500) today. Yesterday I found time to throw it in and test it 10 minutes. 500fsb was just fine.

:D So You keep my hopes alive mate...............;)

Planet
05-14-2008, 07:54 AM
Question, I am confused as to what Remcokatz said about this board not being very good with graphics cards.

I have never heard of this before, but is there some issue with this board as far as gaming goes? While I am an enthusiast overclocker, this board will work just fine for gaming, am I right in that assumption?

I have had no issues with it with 2 cards in Crossfire. I tried 3 cards in CrossfireX but one of my cards was bad (not fault to board).

As for the guys :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing back and forth take it to PMs and emails. This is ridiculous. Not needed here learn some manners.

SF3D
05-14-2008, 11:36 AM
Those vga issues were present in early bios versions. Now they have fixed those issues.

Here is one screenshot. This retail board is better with memory than my previous ES.

Now I can use 6-5-5-14 1T timings up to 900MHz. This is not 32M stable but 3D is ok ;) Strap is 333. Next i do some 266 and PL5 tests.


http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00537/2088248.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2088248.jpg)

Oliver
05-14-2008, 11:46 AM
Sweet update sf3d... looks quite good indeed.

Really want to play with it :)...

SF3D
05-15-2008, 01:30 PM
Here is basic watercooled 3DMark06 CPU test. This is what everybody can do with quad core cpu.


http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00191/2094411.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2094411.jpg)

Efficiency is quite good.

More Xtreme results tomorrow hopefully.

massman
05-17-2008, 06:00 AM
Hey, this is thé board if you want to kill your memory apparently. Foxconn didn't want to give the user the option for 4,5v on the memory though.

Sham, if you're reading this: what's up with the other memory dividers that are hidden in the bios? Are they not working stable enough?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/ocx/Clipboard01.jpg

dean0
05-17-2008, 11:40 AM
when will this m/b be availible to buy? on the foxconn website they have offcial released it about a month ago, where is it? anyone know a date?

Logos
05-17-2008, 11:44 AM
when will this m/b be availible to buy? on the foxconn website they have offcial released it about a month ago, where is it? anyone know a date?

Asus P5E64 WS Evo was also listed on Asus website more than a month ago, even listed at retailers, and it became really available a few days ago.

dean0
05-17-2008, 12:31 PM
okay sorted, its on ocuk website and you can pre order for 26/05/08 (the week i get paid :D) for £293 http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-015-FC&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=

ShaTTeR
05-17-2008, 01:23 PM
Now This Makes me Jump on my Sofa :P

No seriously The Excitement Just Increased =]

hipro5
05-17-2008, 10:36 PM
Bios G20 is a MUST.....I haven't seen my CellShock Rams doing 2000MHz with Cas 7-6-5-15-1T since......I got them..... ;)
They have been damaged a bit since then and on any mobo they did with the above timmings ~ 1950MHz.....Now I BOOT at 500MHz FSB with a "crappy" E8400 and Rams at 2000MHz and get into windows..... :p:

ALSO with bios G20 I gained ~ 15 - 20MHz MORE on a QUAD (445MHz fsb from 427MHz before) with rams working at 1:4 266 AND Cas 7-5-5-5-13-6-43-5-13-14-2-8-2-2-1T..... Bandwidth is EXELANT..... :D

melanko
05-18-2008, 01:55 AM
I've never head the sound quality that comes out of those bundled PCI-E x1 Sounds cards. They any good, compared to a X-Fi Fatal1ty perhaps?

Very nice results on 3DMark also.

Solarfall
05-18-2008, 02:12 AM
Bios G20 is a MUST.....I haven't seen my CellShock Rams doing 2000MHz with Cas 7-6-5-15-1T since......I got them..... ;)
They have been damaged a bit since then and on any mobo they did with the above timmings ~ 1950MHz.....Now I BOOT at 500MHz FSB with a "crappy" E8400 and Rams at 2000MHz and get into windows..... :p:

ALSO with bios G20 I gained ~ 15 - 20MHz MORE on a QUAD (445MHz fsb from 427MHz before) with rams working at 1:4 266 AND Cas 7-5-5-5-13-6-43-5-13-14-2-8-2-2-1T..... Bandwidth is EXELANT..... :D

hey hipro how much voltage did you have use to get that 2000mhz out of those cellshock sticks ???

rgkpt
05-18-2008, 02:30 AM
hey hipro how much voltage did you have use to get that 2000mhz out of those cellshock sticks ???

yes hipro 2000mhz how much voltage?

hipro5
05-18-2008, 03:20 AM
After they got damaged with 2.43Vdimm, I have NEVER feed them again over 2.32Vdimm.....They used to do 7-6-5-15-1T and tight subtimings up to 2070MHz when they were young…. :(
My day/bench usage is 2.28Vdimm and in rare occasions I feed them 2.32Volts MAX....

Logos
05-18-2008, 03:26 AM
off topic: would you mind guys telling me why many of you seem to favor CellShock ram? Anything special? That's a serious question, I'm interested, and never heard of Cellshock before I registered to this forum. thanks.

Solarfall
05-18-2008, 03:29 AM
off topic: would you mind guys telling me why many of you seem to favor CellShock ram? Anything special? That's a serious question, I'm interested, and never heard of Cellshock before I registered to this forum. thanks.

they overclock REALLY nicely...thats pretty much the main reason i guess :D

Logos
05-18-2008, 03:40 AM
they overclock REALLY nicely...thats pretty much the main reason i guess :D
OK thanks

SF3D
05-18-2008, 10:51 AM
Hey, this is thé board if you want to kill your memory apparently. Foxconn didn't want to give the user the option for 4,5v on the memory though.

Sham, if you're reading this: what's up with the other memory dividers that are hidden in the bios? Are they not working stable enough?

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/ocx/Clipboard01.jpg

All memory dividers that you need, are available in bios. Why would you use anything lower than 1:2 :D

I don't understand that memory killing part... but hey, it's me ;)

SF3D
05-18-2008, 10:59 AM
I tried some LN2 clocking on friday (10h only). That wasn't my day at all, cause I couldn't get good contact between pot and cpu :shrug: I was too tired maybe.

CPU did only 5.64GHz and I have try again as soon as possible.

Motherboard worked really well, but I couldn't get PL5 and strap 266 working like I wanted, so I tested with strap 333 and PL6.

Here is the 06:
78880

Here is 03:
78881

I hope you like it :up:

Planet
05-18-2008, 11:16 AM
All memory dividers that you need, are available in bios. Why would you use anything lower than 1:2 :D

I don't understand that memory killing part... but hey, it's me ;)

He just meant that 4.5V is available to the memory allthough its locked it could be unlocked to kill your ddr3 instantly lol.

NapalmV5
05-18-2008, 12:08 PM
whats taking so long @ available?

systemviper
05-18-2008, 12:09 PM
whats taking so long @ available?

+2,999 :down:

I want my Blackops in USA :up:

NapalmV5
05-18-2008, 01:18 PM
oh come on!!

+5000

camouflage
05-18-2008, 03:18 PM
Bios G20 is a MUST.....I haven't seen my CellShock Rams doing 2000MHz with Cas 7-6-5-15-1T since......I got them..... ;)
They have been damaged a bit since then and on any mobo they did with the above timmings ~ 1950MHz.....Now I BOOT at 500MHz FSB with a "crappy" E8400 and Rams at 2000MHz and get into windows..... :p:

ALSO with bios G20 I gained ~ 15 - 20MHz MORE on a QUAD (445MHz fsb from 427MHz before) with rams working at 1:4 266 AND Cas 7-5-5-5-13-6-43-5-13-14-2-8-2-2-1T..... Bandwidth is EXELANT..... :D

:p: That's really nice........., DDR3-4000........:rofl::up:

T_M
05-18-2008, 08:46 PM
Nice efficiency in 06 cpu test sf3d

hipro5
05-18-2008, 10:06 PM
:p: That's really nice........., DDR3-4000........:rofl::up:

Heh, heh, heh......I'm talking about 2000MHz DDR thus 1000MHz real..... :D

camouflage
05-18-2008, 10:45 PM
Heh, heh, heh......I'm talking about 2000MHz DDR thus 1000MHz real..... :D

:D I know George - I know....., but be honest - You're dreaming of it...:yepp:

T_M
05-19-2008, 12:04 AM
I just started playing with BlackOps today, but cannot get CPU-Z to correctly detect the multiplier on QX9770.
Is there a known bug or a simple fix?
It always shows max multi of 8x in CPU-Z, even when set to 9x or higher in BIOS.

Nosfer@tu
05-19-2008, 01:18 AM
What bios do you have ?

LardArse
05-19-2008, 01:22 AM
I just started playing with BlackOps today, but cannot get CPU-Z to correctly detect the multiplier on QX9770.
Is there a known bug or a simple fix?
It always shows max multi of 8x in CPU-Z, even when set to 9x or higher in BIOS.

leave cpu feauyture at native and not disable or smm mode, the help screen beside says this, though u can disable the rest.

M.Beier
05-19-2008, 01:53 AM
:p: That's really nice........., DDR3-4000........:rofl::up:

:yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp:

George, listen to this guy! I like him, I like him ALOT !!! =)

Please dont write the DDR-rate as the frequency :up:

SF3D:
Memory killing part, its harder then tweaking!!! Memory can easily die if you vacume them or such :p.
But from torture in PC, its VERY hard to kill them!

camouflage
05-19-2008, 02:52 AM
:yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp::yepp:

George, listen to this guy! I like him, I like him ALOT !!! =)

Please dont write the DDR-rate as the frequency :up:

SF3D:
Memory killing part, its harder then tweaking!!! Memory can easily die if you vacume them or such :p.
But from torture in PC, its VERY hard to kill them!

:D Haha - M.Beier, thx for the flowers:clap:. Just imagine this is George's wishful thinking....:rofl:

hipro5
05-19-2008, 03:28 AM
You filthy guys....... :D
Just let the "young man" dreaming...... :D :p:

SF3D
05-19-2008, 03:32 AM
I just started playing with BlackOps today, but cannot get CPU-Z to correctly detect the multiplier on QX9770.
Is there a known bug or a simple fix?
It always shows max multi of 8x in CPU-Z, even when set to 9x or higher in BIOS.

Like Peter suggested, use native mode and "frequency unlimited" setting enabled.

Are you using Vista or XP?

T_M
05-19-2008, 08:04 AM
Using G20 and have set both native mode and frequency unlimited on XP.
Still getting CPU-Z problems.

BenchZowner
05-19-2008, 08:15 AM
Tim I had problems with CPUz this Saturday as well ( on the Striker II Extreme though ).
It couldn't detect the CPU Multiplier properly ( using the latest CPU-z version, 1.45 that is )

T_M
05-19-2008, 08:37 AM
It seems to be EIST related.
When i have the system set to 9x multi and the following CPU settings, i get low power mode with low vcore and low multi. Once i load the CPU it shoots up to 9x and the voltage increases.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/T_M/Native.jpg

When i dissable the CPU EIST, i get 8x multi and the CPU-Z vcore still reads low, but real DMM is correct.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/T_M/Dissabled.jpg

SF3D
05-19-2008, 08:45 AM
Weird.
Try downloading CrystalCPUID and then use enhanced intel speedstep option in that program. Select multi 10x in bios and when you are in windows, select it (10x) from CCPUID and see what happens. If nothing, I'm out of answers :shrug:

T_M
05-19-2008, 08:58 AM
OK, with EIST = Native, setting to 9x in CrystalCPUID causes instant system hang (too low volts i suspect due to power saving)
With EIST = Dissabled, setting to 9x gives perfect results and CPU-Z now reflects the same.

Peter, this is the same problem as with that Dreadnought BIOS we were using i suspect :s

Oliver
05-19-2008, 09:40 AM
Sweet speed on u ddr3 George, good to see the board flying with high ddr3 speed...

gcardinal
05-19-2008, 11:10 AM
Does this board clocks better then Asus Striker II 790i Ultra? As its even more expensive then Asus SIIE in Norway

quake6
05-20-2008, 12:15 AM
Has anyone tried dice/ln2 on NB?

joe_cool
05-23-2008, 03:27 AM
Ok guys, how do you think about this ?:D
Not that bad for single 9800GX2 @ ln2 and cpu @ cascade, huh ?:p:


3DMark03 - 95592 @ 972/1100 Comparelink (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5846865)

http://www.abload.de/img/3d03-95592_joe_cool_3le.jpg



_

CyberDruid
05-23-2008, 03:46 AM
wowzers

Thanks o much for the details and review and benchies...this might surplant my ST...

azza21
05-23-2008, 02:38 PM
It will be interesting to see how this board compares to the upcoming board from the highly regarding DFI, when it comes to overclocking. I will be waiting eagerly for more reviews on this and the dfi x48-t3r.

bobov
05-23-2008, 08:36 PM
BlackOps in stock @ newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186144

TedShred
05-23-2008, 08:47 PM
$360?! lower than I was expecting, 4 sure.

FuriousSalesman
05-23-2008, 08:53 PM
It's about $370 with cheapest shipping. Zip Zoom Fly has had a not in stock listing at $399 for what seems like weeks now.

I am mulling over whether I should pitch my 790i to the fishes and get this instead. The new DDR3 DFI looks good, the P5E3 WS Evolution looks good, what am I supposed to do?

Crazystang01
05-23-2008, 08:54 PM
Thanks just put in my order.:D

T_M
05-23-2008, 11:35 PM
Im really stuggling trying to run a dual core at any decent FSB :(
No matter what ive tried, i cant get past about 490fsb to even load windows!

Solarfall
05-24-2008, 12:29 AM
Im really stuggling trying to run a dual core at any decent FSB :(
No matter what ive tried, i cant get past about 490fsb to even load windows!

this board isnt easy.. im having the same sort of problems with my blackOps board its really picky on the voltage settings .. :D:D:D

systemviper
05-24-2008, 06:35 AM
just ordered mine, :woot: I am very excited

now i am waiting for the 790i Blackops :lol:

Ming@s
05-24-2008, 06:46 AM
Great Board.

:shocked:

Buckeye
05-24-2008, 08:50 AM
Ordered :)

Planet
05-24-2008, 06:32 PM
just ordered mine, :woot: I am very excited

now i am waiting for the 790i Blackops :lol:

The 790i is named Dreadnought

eva2000
05-24-2008, 06:42 PM
Im really stuggling trying to run a dual core at any decent FSB :(
No matter what ive tried, i cant get past about 490fsb to even load windows!
does the board have GTL ref volt options ? probably need to play with them

Planet
05-24-2008, 07:11 PM
Im really stuggling trying to run a dual core at any decent FSB :(
No matter what ive tried, i cant get past about 490fsb to even load windows!
As eva said try adjusting the GTL options to +2 same for the NB.


does the board have GTL ref volt options ? probably need to play with them

zfactor
05-25-2008, 06:06 AM
im so tempted by the blackops...

Solarfall
05-25-2008, 10:33 AM
hey guys what is the best bios for dual core cpus... im fitting the fsb wall at 565fsb with my blackops.. this chip can do atleast 593fsb with my dfi p35 ut t2r board ?

systemviper
05-25-2008, 10:36 AM
Any idea on the release of the 790i Dreadnought :woot:

nettwerk2006
05-26-2008, 01:02 PM
This motherboard looks sweet, i've been looking for a new one to buy and I think this will probably be the one.

does it support DDR3 1600 in all 4 slots?

zerazax
05-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Between this and Dreadnought, there should be a good selection to choose from this summer

nachthymnen
05-27-2008, 12:02 AM
Maybe this week I'll receive mine finally:)
Can't wait to try it:D

clone38
05-27-2008, 02:14 AM
Ive got a question about the soundcard that comes with this motherboard,is it on par with the Auzentech X-Fi Prelude 7.1 Sound Card ?
If it is then i can sell my card on as i use my pc for gaming most of the time i need a good soundcard.

LardArse
05-27-2008, 06:44 AM
If want to try tight timings download this beta bios (http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/7A3F1G17.BIN)
Awdflash xxx.bin /wb

CL6-6-6-15-1t-perl5

Lu(ky
05-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Any links for the RETAIL BIOS like G20 etc.. I can not seem to find it on Foxconn site? Need the best BIOS working so far with the QX9650

Thanks....

eternal_fantasy
05-27-2008, 11:01 PM
Any links for the RETAIL BIOS like G20 etc.. I can not seem to find it on Foxconn site? Need the best BIOS working so far with the QX9650

Thanks....

Register at the QuantumForce.net and you'll have access to the latest BETA BIOS. The latest one is G21, which seems to be pretty much similer to the official P02.. :rolleyes:

eternal_fantasy
05-27-2008, 11:08 PM
If want to try tight timings download this beta bios (http://resources.vr-zone.com/Shamino/7A3F1G17.BIN)
Awdflash xxx.bin /wb

CL6-6-6-15-1t-perl5

Tight timings at what frequency and voltage? The G17 BIOS fails to boot with CellShock 1800/1866 with anything above 800Mhz no matter the timings...

T_M
05-28-2008, 01:40 AM
Using G20 and finding i cant get CL6 to work at all, even though the same RAM loves CL6 on Giga board.
WIll give G17 a shot to see if it helps, thanks Pete

Lu(ky
05-28-2008, 03:12 PM
1. Can someone LINK me a BIOS update for the RETAIL version board!! I cannot find it on there site or online as well. Looking for the newest one out? I think it may be the G20? Just got my board wanting to go to the newest BIOS...

2. Did anyone take off North & South bridge to reapply thermal compound in replace of the stock compound?

Thanks

Planet
05-28-2008, 08:22 PM
Using G20 and finding i cant get CL6 to work at all, even though the same RAM loves CL6 on Giga board.
WIll give G17 a shot to see if it helps, thanks Pete

G17 should work fine. CL7 is really where the board shines though.

T_M
05-28-2008, 09:41 PM
I would much prefer to be running CL6 at 440 x 13 than CL7

hipro5
05-28-2008, 10:16 PM
I would much prefer to be running CL6 at 440 x 13 than CL7

NO differences between CL6 and CL7..... ;)
17.BIN Beta is the fastest bios out there combined with JNL or GTR Ram chips PLUS it "boots easy"..... ;)

TIP: Bench with CL6 and some other mobo and see (prefaired winRar bench) in WinXP with 4 x cores......Then bench with BlackOps with CL7 and tight subtimings with LOWER FSB and see again.....
Also try the same with 2k1 benchie..... :)


Any links for the RETAIL BIOS like G20 etc.. I can not seem to find it on Foxconn site? Need the best BIOS working so far with the QX9650

Thanks....

The best and easiest so far is the G21 bios....A bit more FSB with the QUADS and a bit slower than 17 beta.... ;)

Lu(ky
05-28-2008, 11:05 PM
The best and easiest so far is the G21 bios....A bit more FSB with the QUADS and a bit slower than 17 beta.... ;)

I went to the Foxconn site for the BLACKOPS BIOS section and it says 7A3F1P02 05-12-08 and under descriptions it says Modify ARC code? And again I have the RETAIL version board. So is the BETA BIOS G21 the same? Confused sorry..

T_M
05-28-2008, 11:12 PM
Not the same. G21 bios will have 7A3F1G21 or something similar

hipro5
05-28-2008, 11:25 PM
I went to the Foxconn site for the BLACKOPS BIOS section and it says 7A3F1P02 05-12-08 and under descriptions it says Modify ARC code? And again I have the RETAIL version board. So is the BETA BIOS G21 the same? Confused sorry..

Propably "Pxx" is the final code of a bios and "Gxx" is the BETA code of a bios....... Maybe - I think - .... :)

Harshal
05-29-2008, 05:58 AM
^^ yupp Sir you got that one right :)
Have seen same thing with MARS and now its BlackOps time for me too :D

clone38
05-29-2008, 06:21 AM
Ordered one myself just got to sort out some ram for it,any ideas for a 2x1gb set?

GAR
05-29-2008, 06:25 AM
IS it possible to get 500fsb stable with a q9450 on this board, im thinking of switching out my 790i for this......is it worth it???? i dont need sli so i wanna get back on the intel side.

BenchZowner
05-29-2008, 06:32 AM
IS it possible to get 500fsb stable with a q9450 on this board, im thinking of switching out my 790i for this......is it worth it???? i dont need sli so i wanna get back on the intel side.

500MHz FSB with a Q9450 ?
I don't think so. Not in most cases I'd say ( at least with the currently available BIOSes, etc ).

You'd have a better chance at it with a P45 board.

Smirnoff9988
05-29-2008, 10:15 AM
Anyone from Foxconn want to comment on why the retail boards have aluminum tops on the Quantum Cooler ?

Anyone with any watercooling knowledge knows that mixing aluminum with copper is a bad idea.

Lu(ky
05-29-2008, 10:24 AM
Can some one link me a BETA G20 or G21 BIOS please.... :)

LardArse
05-29-2008, 09:02 PM
Can some one link me a BETA G20 or G21 BIOS please.... :)

you can download them at the Quantum Force website

clone38
05-30-2008, 02:16 AM
Anyone from Foxconn want to comment on why the retail boards have aluminum tops on the Quantum Cooler ?

Anyone with any watercooling knowledge knows that mixing aluminum with copper is a bad idea.

Was going to ask this myself as ive canceled my order till i find out.:yepp:

eternal_fantasy
05-30-2008, 04:15 AM
Anyone from Foxconn want to comment on why the retail boards have aluminum tops on the Quantum Cooler ?

Anyone with any watercooling knowledge knows that mixing aluminum with copper is a bad idea.

Hmm all the hype leading up to the Blackops' release, and now the board is in the retail channel and there is a problem "QuantumForce Scholars" abandons ship? :shakes:

SF3D
05-30-2008, 04:47 AM
Hmm all the hype leading up to the Blackops' release, and now the board is in the retail channel and there is a problem "QuantumForce Scholars" abandons ship? :shakes:

What are you talking about :confused:

I have no idea, where you got that impression :shrug:

LardArse
05-30-2008, 05:11 AM
Hmm all the hype leading up to the Blackops' release, and now the board is in the retail channel and there is a problem "QuantumForce Scholars" abandons ship? :shakes:

Quantum Force Scholars help out a tonne with testing but they are not reps so don't hold them up on something they are not responsible for.

eternal_fantasy
05-30-2008, 05:22 AM
What are you talking about :confused:

I have no idea, where you got that impression :shrug:

Here is where I got that impression:




I have received my brand new Foxconn BlackOps mobo from Newegg today to replace 790i Ultra SLI such as I am tired to alpha-test it's stability. My first impression was - wow, everything I could dream about is on it.

Then I have decided to replace the barbs such as I use 1/2. It was a surprise - chrome plated barbs were made with aluminum, and the black painted cover was also made using aluminum - there are some open spaces (non-painted) contacting with the water! Every water-cooling nOOb (including me) knows that it is better to avoid using different metals in the cooling circuit such as possibility of corrosion in this case due to free active ions of metal raises enormously ... There are 3 types of metal now in that circuit - chrome, copper and aluminum. How come that the advertised copper cover (it is easy to replace barbs with brass ones, therefore I don't care about them) http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/518 is replaced with aluminum one?

Crap, now I need to spend a lot of time making that stupid copper cover instead of paying for it additional $2-3 ... if Foxconn wanted to save on it.
I don't understand such things. Can anyone explain to me what is going on?
"Figure 3: Cover that will come with the motherboard (Foxconn is still deciding on which material to use, acrylic or copper)." And decided to use aluminum?

It is a different product than presented on Foxconn's website:
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/Motherboards/detail_overview.aspx?ID=en-us0000385


BTW the aluminum issue is more serious than I thought - Foxconn can have a legal process against it for misrepresentation, on the box it is purely stated, that:
"4in1 Quantum Cooler. The unique all-copper modular designed 4 in 1 Quantum Cooler enables effective cooling of the NB, SB and VRM areas. Swap out the NB parts to configure it for air, water or more exciting forms of cooling!"

It means all-copper statement legally is relative not only to the block and it's cover (which is actually shown on the box's picture as a copper one), but to LN2 unit as well. Foxconn should hire a good lawyer to review their statements, especially here in the USA, or they will loose like Dell lost just recently ...


AMEN!!

I was going to make a post with pictures asking wtf was going on, but thought I shouldn't get over emotionally evolved...:down:

Having the BlackOps NB aircooled with the supplied tiny fan just don't cut it. its crazy loud, and grossly inefficient to say the least, with temps in excess of 47C IDLE. That leaves just the water cooling for us non-LN2 users, then this :banana::banana::banana::banana: happens...:rolleyes:

WHY BLOODY ALUMINIUM???

Any comments Quantum Force "Scholars"?


I don't think you understand why we are complaining about the use of aluminum on the NB. It is not that it reduceses the cooling ability of the heat sink, evident in that delrin or acrylic will be better substitute. It is the fact that mixing metals in watercooling loops causes galvanic corrosion, and that all previous marketing material of the BlackOps cooling system pointed to the fact(indirectly) that no aluminum is present in the NB waterblock chamber.
Have a read through the liquid cooling forum and you'll gain some watercooling facts. :)



Intel X38/X48 above 45-47 degree becomes very unstable(from my experience). Under water now with temps around 28 degree, so im fine for now, just need to watch the block from corrosion from the Aluminum...


As we can see, it has 6400 RPM with 12V and max CFM 18.3 (0.518 m3/min) having 37dB of noise at that speed - according to specification. Such as being installed it is located really close to the cooler, the pressure goes up, as well as CFM goes down according to the graph on specification and noise of flowing air with turbulence becomes like twice louder than 37dB in specification.

Please understand me correctly, I don't want to blame the board (having 790i before, LOL), but the air-cooling version of 4in1 Quantum definitely needs a modification for silent and more efficient operations, as well as to be "all-copper" for WC (or at least delrin-copper, acrylic-copper).


When the problem comes.,.,,.,.,. = no support


Hehe, we can solve our problems, can't we? Who cares about support? :DHow sad...? :shrug:



Anyone from Foxconn want to comment on why the retail boards have aluminum tops on the Quantum Cooler ?

Anyone with any watercooling knowledge knows that mixing aluminum with copper is a bad idea.


Was going to ask this myself as ive canceled my order till i find out.:yepp:


Still clueless?:rolleyes:

eternal_fantasy
05-30-2008, 05:24 AM
Quantum Force Scholars help out a tonne with testing but they are not reps so don't hold them up on something they are not responsible for.

Sorry my fault. You guys just do the promotion, not the support.

I brought the Blackops because members of the Quantum Force team that had the board for testing posted great reviews and acheved nice overclocks with it, and I had a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty time with the Asus Striker II Extreme.
I thought that the Foxconn X48 seems to be getting great feedbacks and that there are many Quantum Force members here in xtremesystems forum, and we can fall back on them for support, since they have great contact with Foxconn, unlike ASUS, where we are pretty much on our own.

Now with the board in hand, and we found we are not getting what was advertised and paid very much for. The Quantum Force members are nowhere to be seen, and if they do appear, they avoid what they don't want to answer.
Why should I now buy Foxconn over ASUS now that the biggest reason I switched was not the reality? Asus seem to have a much greater customer base, and users help each other out.
Is this what we should look forward to with up coming Foxconn-QuantomForce products?

arisythila
05-30-2008, 06:30 AM
Anyone from Foxconn want to comment on why the retail boards have aluminum tops on the Quantum Cooler ?

Anyone with any watercooling knowledge knows that mixing aluminum with copper is a bad idea.

It is a bad idea, IF you use Straight distilled water. Otherwise its not a bad idea at all, if you maintain your system. (Yes like the manufacture says to do it)

LardArse
05-30-2008, 06:52 AM
Now with the board in hand, and we found we are not getting what was advertised and paid very much for. The Quantum Force members are nowhere to be seen, and if they do appear, they avoid what they don't want to answer.

They dont have all the answers, if not they would answer

LardArse
05-30-2008, 07:03 AM
Can try setting GTL Ref 1 lower than the rest as intel specs it to be higher but it seems to like being equal to the rest
For example +10,+5,+10,+10, or default,-5,default,default, Elmor found this to be better as did I.

massman
05-30-2008, 07:55 AM
you can download them at the Quantum Force website

Can you download without being logged on? Cause I'm having problems logging on for a few weeks now.

FuriousSalesman
05-30-2008, 08:04 AM
They dont have all the answers, if not they would answer

Got a little too worked up on this. Decided to delete.

LardArse
05-30-2008, 08:08 AM
damn... it works from my side :(

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/7A3F1G21.zip
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/7A3F1G20.zip
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/7A3F1G22.BIN

saaya
05-30-2008, 08:32 AM
Anyone with any watercooling knowledge knows that mixing aluminum with copper is a bad idea.
if you ask me galvanic corrosion is way overrated... i know people who are running copper and alu in the same loop for a long time and they have no problems. if you use a water additive the corrosion wont happen or will happen so slowly it would take decades to really damage any components.

even if you dont use water additive, the worst ive seen was a block getting a rough surface and changing the color, and that was after 1 year of usage or so... :)

massman
05-30-2008, 09:37 AM
damn... it works from my side :(

http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/7A3F1G21.zip
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/7A3F1G20.zip
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/7A3F1G22.BIN

Thanks matey!

Tried login in today again, but the same thing is happening: the loading circle keeps going round and round.

OverClocker_gr
05-30-2008, 10:25 AM
Could anyone post settings that worked for him for 500fsb?


Thanx

Solarfall
05-30-2008, 10:41 AM
Could anyone post settings that worked for him for 500fsb?


Thanx

i can post em next sunday.. when i get back home :yepp:

eternal_fantasy
05-30-2008, 10:55 AM
Thanks matey!

Tried login in today again, but the same thing is happening: the loading circle keeps going round and round.

Try using a different browser.

FuriousSalesman
05-30-2008, 12:13 PM
I am not sure if this applies. I have had trouble trying to download drivers and bios updates from official company websites because of a dsl connection at work. Using the same laptop at home with cable lets me do all of that.

massman
05-30-2008, 12:20 PM
Try using a different browser.

LOL, I tried IE in the past, didn't work and now it does ... :D

naokaji
05-30-2008, 01:09 PM
finally ordered one:up:
spent too much time with it on the basket and holding off due to price, but the temptation got too big:p:

Buckeye
05-30-2008, 02:03 PM
finally ordered one:up:
spent too much time with it on the basket and holding off due to price, but the temptation got too big:p:

You will be very pleased :)

Mine came yesterday and I love it. It's just what I was waiting for to put my F1 to work on :)

G H Z
05-30-2008, 02:29 PM
does the board have GTL ref volt options?

Is -31 to +31 in 1 step increments enough for you lol? :D

FuriousSalesman
05-30-2008, 04:37 PM
I just received my Blackops. I am pretty sure that the top plate for the NB block is aluminum. It is painted black and scratches easily. The back of the box clearly shows a copper top.

gmcg
05-31-2008, 06:19 PM
if you ask me galvanic corrosion is way overrated... i know people who are running copper and alu in the same loop for a long time and they have no problems. if you use a water additive the corrosion wont happen or will happen so slowly it would take decades to really damage any components.

even if you dont use water additive, the worst ive seen was a block getting a rough surface and changing the color, and that was after 1 year of usage or so... :)

We are talking about mis-presentation here, it was really strange that hipro5 confirmed in his posts that it is all-copper ... probably he has a different "demo" board, which had all reviewers?

Regarding galvanic corrosion - the speed of it depend on many factors, such as presence of oxygen/acid in the water, temperature, oxidation of surfaces, etc. etc. but the common rule (such as you can't control all factors) is: http://www.fourseasonsroofingandsiding.com/mixmetals.htm

So, never mix metals!
Of course if you use a corrosion inhibitor or special liquids to protect against it, there is no problem. But I bough 4-in1 all-copper version, as stated on my box, why should I accept an aluminum cover?

BTW the motherboard ia awesome, it is rock stable, as expected. Thanks for it and those minor issues are not :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ... those just should be fixed to make this product absolutely perfect, IMO.

Lu(ky
05-31-2008, 08:32 PM
We are talking about mis-presentation here, it was really strange that hipro5 confirmed in his posts that it is all-copper ... probably he has a different "demo" board, which had all reviewers?

Regarding galvanic corrosion - the speed of it depend on many factors, such as presence of oxygen/acid in the water, temperature, oxidation of surfaces, etc. etc. but the common rule (such as you can't control all factors) is: http://www.fourseasonsroofingandsiding.com/mixmetals.htm

Of course if you use a corrosion inhibitor or special liquids to protect against it, there is no problem. But I bough 4-in1 all-copper version, as stated on my box, why should I accept an aluminum cover?

BTW the motherboard ia awesome, it is rock stable, as expected. Thanks for it and those minor issues are not :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ... those just should be fixed to make this product absolutely perfect, IMO.

Agreed if anything they should had made everything copper as well as the top and just made us buy the BARBS on our side to cut down on the cost then everyone is happy...

G H Z
06-01-2008, 01:40 AM
Anyone know where to get CF bridges that work with slots 1 & 3? :D

FuriousSalesman
06-01-2008, 12:47 PM
I know people are just getting their boards, but, I have a question. I am running on G17 bios currently. I am running E8400. I do understand that the motherboard is tuned for quad core chips, but I want to see how far I can go. My goal is 500fsb and 2000mhz on Cellshock ram.

I am getting strange ram dividing issues. I am trying to boot at stock ram speeds but when I go into windows, I am getting a lower clock than what I set in the bios. When I set ram to 1800mhz in the bios or something else I get a 5:8 ram divider or 2:3 ram divider? Does anyone know whats going on?

DMH
06-01-2008, 02:12 PM
Update to G22 BIOS;)

FuriousSalesman
06-01-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks. I was sticking with G17 because I think heard that it had the best ram timings. The moderator posted a G22 bios in this thread but I can't find it on the Quantum Force website? Is the one in this thread specifically for the Blackops?

Although, I have expressed displeasure in the aluminum top in this thread, it works quite well. It is keeping the northbridge very cool 28C at stock volts.

edit: Thanks DMH. The G22 bios in the thread solved the wierd ram divider issues.

Another question. Which option in the bios turns off speed step? Thanks in advance

LaMpiR
06-01-2008, 03:20 PM
Would like to see DDR2 version of this board...

ric9887
06-02-2008, 12:45 AM
I would like advice on which memory to get for this board. I want 4GB, but am not clear if I should go with a 4GB kit or 2 x 2GB kit. I have read that come X48 boards have had problems driving 4 sticks?

I am also unlcear if there are other limitations of running 4 sticks compared with 2, I imagine there are, but I havent bumped into anyone talking about them.

Im kinda looking at these :-

2 x 2GB Corsair TWIN3X2048-1800C7DFIN 7-7-7-20
1 x 4GB Corsair TW3X4G1800C8DF 8-8-8-24
2 x 2GB CellShock DDR3 14400 1800MHz 8-7-6-21
2 x 2GB Cellshock DDR3 15000 1866 MHz 8-8-8-16

I understand asking a question like this is very subjective, and that the board is new so there is not a wealth of tested combinations, and that the BIOS is changing to improve stuff all the time, but I have the board, the processor is a 9770 btw. CPU & NB will be WC.

Thank you in advance.

raptor1
06-02-2008, 01:42 AM
Hi!

Has anyone any luck at overclocking an E8500 chip at 450 /500 FSB

if so can they post their settings

I was stable with my SIIE for a while, but typically this board works fine for a while and then decides to go back to crashing and freezing

i am hoping to to get the blackops board, but want to make sure the E8500 will work fine first

thanks
flanr

dread77
06-02-2008, 05:18 AM
Hi!

Has anyone any luck at overclocking an E8500 chip at 450 /500 FSB

if so can they post their settings

I was stable with my SIIE for a while, but typically this board works fine for a while and then decides to go back to crashing and freezing

i am hoping to to get the blackops board, but want to make sure the E8500 will work fine first

thanks
flanr

Well, at least for now, 500 fsb seems like mission impossible on this board. I managed to boot using 8X500, though it was not benchable at all. Just a winrar test and then it crushed. I tried several combinations with the timings but no luck. I someone else can give us stable settings for 500 fsb I would appreciate it as well.

460 and 470 though, is pretty easy on this board but again it's pretty low for an E8500. This board was built only for unlocked multipliers and that is final... aka QX9XXX:up:

boblemagnifique
06-02-2008, 05:35 AM
I have test today the news BlackOps X48 :)

First test with the bios 05/09 on max freq DDR3 (STT DDR3 1800 ProjectX) on single at 2.2v :)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369787

raptor1
06-02-2008, 05:40 AM
Well, at least for now, 500 fsb seems like mission impossible on this board. I managed to boot using 8X500, though it was not benchable at all. Just a winrar test and then it crushed. I tried several combinations with the timings but no luck. I someone else can give us stable settings for 500 fsb I would appreciate it as well.

460 and 470 though, is pretty easy on this board but again it's pretty low for an E8500. This board was built only for unlocked multipliers and that is final... aka QX9XXX:up:

if you have time can you or someone check for 450 x9 which gave me roughfully 4.05 ghz on my Striker II Extreme - i know it is pretty low but i would be happy with this and with 100% stability:)

dread77
06-02-2008, 05:45 AM
No problem mate. I will post my settings later when I will get home (I am supposed to be working right now :D). I have solid 9X450 24/7 settings :yepp:. Are you running your system on air cooling??? NB temps can get preety high (47 idle), though my room temps are 27-30C (I leave in sunny Greece).

dread77
06-02-2008, 05:49 AM
I have test today the news BlackOps X48 :)

First test with the bios 05/09 on max freq DDR3 (STT DDR3 1800 ProjectX) on single at 2.2v :)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369787


Can you post your sub timmings/settings on this one mate???

raptor1
06-02-2008, 05:52 AM
No problem mate. I will post my settings later when I will get home (I am supposed to be working right now :D). I have solid 9X450 24/7 settings :yepp:. Are you running your system on air cooling??? NB temps can get preety high (47 idle), though my room temps are 27-30C (I leave in sunny Greece).

i will be running on air with a thermalight ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler with a scythe 120mm fan attached and i will probably get a cooler for the NB

dread77
06-02-2008, 05:56 AM
i will be running on air with a thermalight ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler with a scythe 120mm fan attached and i will probably get a cooler for the NB

Well, you can't get a separate cooler on the NB unless you dettach the whole copper cooling system from the board. W/C would be more appropriate.

raptor1
06-02-2008, 06:52 AM
Well, you can't get a separate cooler on the NB unless you dettach the whole copper cooling system from the board. W/C would be more appropriate.

got this from blackops product page on foxconn website

http://www.quantum-force.net/Products/P000000002/

boblemagnifique
06-02-2008, 07:34 AM
Can you post your sub timmings/settings on this one mate???

it's just the First Test (i don't really found the good setting for the moment :) )

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6056/blackopsx48px7.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackopsx48px7.jpg)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369849

TRFC : 69
Perf Level : 7
Write to precharge delay : 23
TWTR : 21
TRRD : 5
TRD_WR : 10
TRTP : 5

Vcore : 1.265v
Vpll : 1.584v
Vvtt : 1.575v
NB : 1.594v
SB : 1.613v
Vddr : 2.21v

I test tommorow with the E8500 , for the moment i test my QX9650/BlacKops/9800GX2 under Cascade 2 stages:)

dread77
06-02-2008, 09:09 AM
got this from blackops product page on foxconn website

http://www.quantum-force.net/Products/P000000002/

Oh OK, I thought that you meant using an aftermarket cooler. Onboard cooler sucks, not good at all, block is too deep, too massive and keeps all heat inside no matter what.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369861

Just joined the 500 Club!!!:D

FuriousSalesman
06-02-2008, 09:17 AM
Oh OK, I thought that you meant using an aftermarket cooler. Onboard cooler sucks, not good at all, block is too deep, too massive and keeps all heat inside no matter what.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369861

Just joined the 500 Club!!!:D

Really? I don't know what kind of temps you would get if you used another brand of NB Waterblock, but I think it performs admirably.

dread77
06-02-2008, 09:25 AM
I am not talking about the waterblock. I haven't tried the board on a water loop yet. I was talking about the passive cooling system. Block+small delta.

FuriousSalesman
06-02-2008, 09:46 AM
I'm sorry. I misunderstood.

raptor1
06-02-2008, 10:40 AM
Oh OK, I thought that you meant using an aftermarket cooler. Onboard cooler sucks, not good at all, block is too deep, too massive and keeps all heat inside no matter what.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369861

Just joined the 500 Club!!!:D


No problem mate. I will post my settings later when I will get home.

Congratulations getting 500 FSB working, but your cpu speed has dropped from 3.16Ghz to 3.00Ghz - is that right

any luck in getting the settings for 9x 450fsb

dread77
06-04-2008, 08:36 AM
Congratulations getting 500 FSB working, but your cpu speed has dropped from 3.16Ghz to 3.00Ghz - is that right

any luck in getting the settings for 9x 450fsb

Check this post (http://http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2975941&postcount=1). It worked fine for me.:up:

@rne
06-04-2008, 09:06 AM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369861

Just joined the 500 Club!!!:D


Are you able to have this Prime custom stable with ffts in place?

dread77
06-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Are you able to have this Prime custom stable with ffts in place?

Didn't try it. Though, with these frequency, timings, sub timings it should be fine through any stress. I got 520 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=369915) yesterday. I am testing with a quad core for the moment and it's much better than my 8500. :yepp:

nachthymnen
06-05-2008, 06:27 AM
Received today:D
Installing XP now @ 400x10 1,3v QX 9650:)
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/20080605161547_Immagine.jpg

The bios is amazing:eek:
Tons of voices to set:D

nachthymnen
06-05-2008, 08:23 AM
I like it, just a fast run...damn this main is really fast:eek::up:
PCI @ 101 and TRD @ 6.

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/20080605182025_aqua3.jpg

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/20080605181913_3d064200.jpg

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/20080605213525_pi440x10.jpg

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/20080605213705_wpri4406mhz.jpg

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/20080605213741_441x1006.jpg

raptor1
06-05-2008, 10:39 AM
Anandtech have a short preview on their site of the blackops:up:

a full review will come later

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/default.aspx#459

the site is very slow this evening for some reason, so be patient

best regards
flan

FuriousSalesman
06-05-2008, 11:43 AM
Thanks flanr, for the heads up.

After I get off of work, I am going to try and emulate the Anandtech results. I am kind of glad that I have a similar setup with the 1866 Cellshocks except I have an E8400 and they have a E8500 ES.

Anandtech set all their Dram timings manually at 8-8-8-24 PL7 1T @2000. I left my timings mostly up to the SPD at 7-7-7-20 PL-6 1T @1800. The only value I set was PL-6.

In their preview, they used 1.673v for the NB. Is that safe? I am WC'ing and am reluctant to put more than 1.5 at the moment.

They set some interesting values with the GTL ref volts. I left all of mine at 0.

In their preview, they used the "White Slots". Is there a tangible difference between the blue and white slots?

I am really happy that there are more reviews using an actual retail board. On another note, does anyone one know which bios they used?

ZillaPct
06-05-2008, 11:57 AM
790i strikerII P1 P2 ON

AquaMark Cpu 450x8 233037
http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200805/th_20080525231233_aqua3600_450.jpg (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200805/20080525231233_aqua3600_450.jpg)

Blackops

AquaMark CPU 450x8 233529

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/th_20080605172513_blackops.JPG (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200806/20080605172513_blackops.JPG)

Blackops is very fast :yepp:

SF3D
06-05-2008, 03:07 PM
Finally i got some time to test fsb on this board :up:

I found that it is not hard to get to 500fsb. (I haven't tested further yet)

Setup is watercooled and room temp is 27c at the moment :(
Processor that was used: E8500
Memory that was used: G.Skill D9GTR 2x1GB

.................................................. .................................................. ...
Settings:

VCPU 1.41V
VPLL: ~1.65V
VTT: 1.35V in bios
CPU GTL: default
NB: 1.713V (Watercooled --> maybe not as much V is needed)
NB GTL: default
SB: 1.65V
Mem: 2.32V

Timings: 7-7-7-18-70-(7)8-24-20-8-10-8 (1T)
Strap: 400
memory speed: 1000MHz @ boot
.................................................. .................................................. ...

Here is one 500+ shot:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00020/2191539.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2191539.jpg)

I'll try to find some 32M stability at those settings :D

After that I'll start to find the max fsb on this board.

FuriousSalesman
06-05-2008, 03:15 PM
How safe is 2.3v for memory and 1.7 for the NB? That seems like quite a bit.

Lu(ky
06-05-2008, 03:18 PM
For some reason when I OC my e8400 to any speed. I will run 3DMARK06 with my GPU at stock settings it starts to hang, and sometimes give me a blue screen? Is it do to the PCI clock being at stock? Or just a bad OC on the cpu or is it the memory. And what are you guys using for the PCI clock speed? 100-120?

Thanks

SF3D
06-05-2008, 03:25 PM
How safe is 2.3v for memory and 1.7 for the NB? That seems like quite a bit.

I'm not suggesting to use those voltages 24/7.

I have used 2.15V for the mem all the time in past 6 months. When I use QX9650, NB V can be around 1.46V-1.55V, so maybe that 1.7V is not needed. I will test more and then we will see :up:

FuriousSalesman
06-05-2008, 03:35 PM
Is 2000mhz just for benching or is it possible to have 24/7?