Another Waterlogged TJ-07

[b@llz0r]

Updates posted directly in thread from now on... this page is getting too slow to load :)

29/05/08

A little more progress today... My fan controler arrived so i can complete the res

Return barbs on, and I put an elbow on for the fill port res, this is tapped half into the ceiling of the res so itll be the highest point so the air will escape.
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Pumps on
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Installing was a bit fiddly, Im hoping those minor kinks will sort themselves out
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Kaze Master in
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now for some moood lighting..... damn that bit of paper ruining my shot!
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well thats about all i can do till my blocks get here....


28/05/08

While I wait for my blocks to arrive i decided to tube up the radiators.

This is probably going to go down as the longest build in history :/

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Tight fit
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Floor back in
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A nice gap at the front for the return lines without needing to cut
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Leak testing
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26/05/08

Arrrg... I just found out my water blocks are still 2-3 weeks away... shoulda just ordered them from EK direct :mad:

oh well...


here is the latest little update:

Stealthing the DVD Drive

first I grabbed a spare faceplate... lots of those laying round

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put some double sided tape across the back

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folded the flaps down

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a bit more double sided tape, with a pad for the drive button

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pop it on the drive... but dont peel the backing tape off the button pad

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which one is it?

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cost me about 20 cents and about 10 minutes! :D


Im also thinking about putting the res/pumps up the top.... that way i can install a fill port in the top of the case... just gota figure out how to route the return lines...




25/05/08 5pm

reassembled the case... slight change in plans, im moving the res up one bay and sacrificing the second dvd drive.

This will let me install a fan controller and make routing the return tubes easier.

I ordered a black sythe kaze master... only 1A per channel but that will let me run 4 of those ACRyan Blackfire4s from each channel and give me some temp readouts

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25/05/08
A long time between updates and not much progress to report.

Still waiting on delivery of my waterblocks... funny that the first thing i ordered will be the last to arrive :/

well i finnished off the res by adding a bracket to secure the pumps.
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A couple of UV LEDs and and a temp probe in the redundant inlet/outlet ports
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This is just with water... should look cool with the UV blue coolant. Only thing left to do in it is to tap the inlet ports, but ill do this when i do the final assembly



14/05/08

I dont have room for a fan controller and besides i think they are a waste of time... id only ever use "all fans max" or "all fans min" so i decided to make up a little switch. Basically I want my machine to be quiet and sedate when idle or just working, then press a button it goes into game mode with the fans, and the leds and the cold cathodes n'hay.

After a lot of help from the guys over in the xtreme mods section, I went down to the local electronics store and bought a bread board, a DPDT relay and a handfull of resistors.

hooked it all up
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Low noise mode for idle
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Xtreme Mode!!!!22one! for gaming and general n00b pwnage
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The iphone camera doesnt really do it justice... it really fires up when you hit the switch... one more click and its quiet as. I'll post a vid once ive got it set up properly.

now.... whered i put my soldering iron....



12/05/08
modding the dual drivebay res to mount dual DDC 3.2s'

My koolance G1/4 ram connectors arrived today so I can mount the pumps to the res. Some guys in another thread were asking how to tap a G1/4 thread so ill go into a little more detail on that operation.

First I set out the hole locations and used a nail to punch the centres, this way the drill bit wont wander... I was sure to "measure twice, drill once" and since it takes about two weeks to get gear from the states I measured once more for good measure :)

If you have a drill press use it... I only had a cordless drill so my allignment isnt perfect, if you use a vice to hold the res be sure to protect it with a rag.

I found that a slow speed works best, when you can feel the bit cutting the plastic and u get a nice even swarf coming off you know you are at the right speed, take extra care as the bit penetrates the other side as it has a tendancy to bite and could crack your res.

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Now its time to tap that.... hole.... um... .... moving right along :D

I didnt use any cutting oil because i was unsure how it would react with the plastic... I figured it was soft material so shouldnt be a problem. Really there is nothing to it, place the tap in the hole and turn. For metals its best to do a full turn forward and a quater turn back to break off the swarf and ensure a clean thread, probably not as big an issue with plastic, but i did anyway to be sure.

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Drilled, tapped and flushed

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Fittings installed

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perfik

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leak testing...

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done!

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11/05/08 12:24 AM :)

After a trial assembly with the rad in it turns out those vibration mounts are a fraction too tall, looks like im going to have to go back to evian 26's idea of just bolting them to the floor and using a nut or some washers as packers to get it up a little.


10/05/08
Another small update... mounting the 480GTX!

After centre-punching the holes using the radsupport as a template i drilled and tapped some M4 holes.
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man I havent done this since high school... but i remembered its 1/2 turn forward, 1/4 back with a little cutting oil to lube it up.

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I found these vibration mounts from my alphacool ddc top which is in another machine.

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that should do the trick.... I need more of these things if anyone knows where to get them from! :confused:

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need to get some shorter screws

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and there it is

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06/05/08
Not much progress today, after ordering some 3/8 ID tube :D just stripped out the innards and laid out the basement.

Looks like I will need to end for end the 240 because the elbows were clashing, I know its not preferable to have the flow going downwards in the rad but im sure itll be ok.

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05/05/08

Well i wasnt going to make this a full blown work log, but id hate to disappoint my subscribers :)

I will add updates to this first post so people dont need to trawl through to find out where im up to with the build.

I received a couple of boxes full of bits from Performance PCs today, the rads, res, pumps and most of the fittings ill be needing

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This is what the front will end up looking like... I also plan on doing AndyM's LianLi CD Bezel mod to keep with the slick black look.

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All the bits on the table... hope my g/f doesnt mind eating out for a few weeks :)

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I think i went overboard with the fittings :)

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My first hitch... and I havent even started up the jigsaw :eek:
on the left is a alphacool 3/8 fitting, on the right a koolance, in the middle some 3/8 tube... how the heck is that tube suppose to fit on the koolance fitting?





04/05/08
Hi guys,

Ive been lurking in these forums for a while now learning as much as I can about water-cooling and putting ideas together for my next build.

Ive knocked up a concept in sketchup and would appreciate any comments you guys have on my setup.

You will need to use your imagination a bit because I didnt draw up all the waterblocks.

Most of the sketchup components are from The Sketchup Components Collection (http://scc.jezmckean.com/)... bigups to scooby, his work is flawless :eek:

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Basically its going to be dual loop with a common res.

Loop 1 res>pump1>GFX1>GFX2>GFX3>GTX480>res
Loop 2 res>pump2>CPU>Mosfet>GTXM184>Mosfet>NB>SB>GTX240>Res

Im using 3/8 tubing and all ek waterblocks, supreme for the CPU, FC88's for the 8800 Ultras. Im a little worried about clearance on the middle gfx card, but i guess ill see when my parts arrive.

im thinking of mounting the pumps to the underside of the res by drilling and tapping a couple of G1/4 holes and then using the koolance Ram-35 (http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=623) sliding connection nozzles (unless anyone can give me a better idea)

Im also planning on using the koolance shutoff nozzles (http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=609), pannel mount for the connection through the floor to the rads, and again to the pumps for easy removal of the mobo tray... anyone have any opinions on these?





Props to AndyM (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=149265) for showing me how to do a TJ07 right and virtualrain (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176797) for getting me interested in watercooling in the first place.

[Tw1st3d]

Like the idea with dual 92 mm radaitor and dual 5,25" bay resevoir with "custom holes?" and a 480 - insane!

Can't wait to see the real build!

[emoners]

looking nice! :up: by the way, where are the hard drives?

[b@llz0r]

Damn.... knew i forgot something!!!




j/k... they are above the res using the drive cage that was in the bottom of the case

[CoNMaN]

Looking real nice :up:

(drivers over res)

[b@llz0r]

one thing thats been bugging me... is it ok to hook up the three 8800s in series like that?

I figure that once the water goes through the first two, it'll be pretty hot and temps on #3 will suck

would it be better to hook these up parallel somehow?

[BNDMOD]

Ssucribed.. i want to see this kind of job :d

[biftek.]

Woah! crazy set up, cant wait to see this built...


I'd use larger tubing though, not a fan of that tiny stuff.

[b@llz0r]

I'd use larger tubing though, not a fan of that tiny stuff.


I ran it through Martins flow rate estimator spreadsheet... 3/8 tubing will still give me decent flow and be a bit easier to manage

It worked out to be 1.57 GPM with 3/8" and 1.61 with 1/2" so the effect is negligable.


thats a kick ass spreadsheet btw... saved me heaps of time

[mpower1001]

I ran it through Martins flow rate estimator spreadsheet... 3/8 tubing will still give me decent flow and be a bit easier to manage

It worked out to be 1.57 GPM with 3/8" and 1.61 with 1/2" so the effect is negligable.


thats a kick ass spreadsheet btw... saved me heaps of time

wow! i cant believe their is no real difference between 3/8 and 1/2 tubing. im thinking of doing the same setup with just the 480GT. Performance-pcs.com has the t07 with the 480GT installed down below, it looks awesome, fits perfect. Hope everything goes well. Good luck.

[biftek.]

I ran it through Martins flow rate estimator spreadsheet... 3/8 tubing will still give me decent flow and be a bit easier to manage

It worked out to be 1.57 GPM with 3/8" and 1.61 with 1/2" so the effect is negligable.


thats a kick ass spreadsheet btw... saved me heaps of time
Yeah that's still a really good flow rate.

But I meant aesthetically, I like larger tubing. :p:

[[XC] NetburstXE]

Subscribed!

[daedality]

Looks cool. I just moved the radiator mounted at the top of my system as far over to the right as I could (As opposed to having it all the way to the left) because I'm going to mount the same 92mm radiator you're about to mount into my system... it's going to be a very tight fit, I've done measurements and so forth and I have about a 43~46mm clearance using 92x25mm fans... That radiator is 54mm if I remember properly, so I'm picking up some 12mm thick fans. Which is still a bit under because the PCI slots are 15mm out and I'll need a 3mm spacer between... You should consider mounting it internally like I will. x) That loop for me will just be RAM.

Link to my build in sig, this build has qualities similar to mine if you want to check it out.

[evian_26]

I had a simillar setup (gtx480 and pa120.2).The pa120.2 was reciving hot air from the gtx480 and I got bad temps. Once the pa120.2 was removed and joint the two loops to the gtx480 I got good results. The Gtx480 can handle more than I thought. Now its cooling an overclocked QX6850 and two overclocked 8800 ultras.
Oh yes, I did not drill my tj07 to fix the gtx480 existing holes fits it perfectly.good luck

[sickboy8820]

Good Luck Bro!!! This is going to be the hardest build I've seen in a long time.. This is the case I've ran with for years, while also using a 480 down below in my previous build. I'm not sure how you're going to fit everything "as is". Man I hope you do because it's gonna be sick but defiantly not an easy build!

BRY

[b@llz0r]

Thanks for the encouragement guys... I hope I havent bitten off more than I can chew... my g/f wants the dining room table back one day :)

I'll post an update today.


I had a simillar setup (gtx480 and pa120.2).The pa120.2 was reciving hot air from the gtx480 and I got bad temps. Once the pa120.2 was removed and joint the two loops to the gtx480 I got good results. The Gtx480 can handle more than I thought. Now its cooling an overclocked QX6850 and two overclocked 8800 ultras.
Oh yes, I did not drill my tj07 to fix the gtx480 existing holes fits it perfectly.good luck

I figure the 240 will suck cool air from the right side, with the 480 sucking air from the left with the hot air exhausting out the back where the second psu is suppose to go.

Mind posting some pics of how you mounted your 480 using the existing holes? I had planned on using silverstone radsupport brackets as feet... but this requires drilling I think.

[Serpentarius]

try not to use those aluminium fans ... they're bulky and costly ... while yield no actual benefits ... besides if u place thermal compound on them and ur rad ... corrossive is gonna visit you ...
best get plastics ...

i dun know bout the 92mm ... the idea seems fresh ... but i think it's better u get a dual 120 rad for top ... seems practical for most tj07 users here ... but 92mm will make u unique though ...

any idea to place a fan controller 5.25"? imo ...

gluck with your work!

[RLM]

Fantastic work, and what a great way to knock up ideas. Will have to try and convert a few of those sketch up mods.

Little confused by the fan on the inside for harddrives. On that silverstone hard drive cage the fan is on the inside at the front of the case.

Just had another look. Am I right in thinking you're flipping it round, therefore keeping wiring out the way? Nice idea.

RLM

[evian_26]

I figure the 240 will suck cool air from the right side, with the 480 sucking air from the left with the hot air exhausting out the back where the second psu is suppose to go.

Mind posting some pics of how you mounted your 480 using the existing holes? I had planned on using silverstone radsupport brackets as feet... but this requires drilling I think.


You will have alot of hot air in the case you need more fans to pull the hot air out. Here are few pics on how my radiator is mounted:

1. I used three "L" brackets "red squares in pic 1" with a nut underneath to raise the radiator.
2. The bracket fits between the radiator and the fan
3. I have four fans pulling air and two pushing.in addition the psu fan which pulls air from the rad. the brackets holds the radiator like a rock

sorry for the bad quality pics phon cam could not find my camera

[rentay]

Wow!

This thread looks amazing! Love the idea of a quad radiator!

Definitely subscribed!

Regards

[kinghong1970]

WOOTAGE for mad CAD Skillz!

nice!

[Hijack]

Fantastic work, and what a great way to knock up ideas. Will have to try and convert a few of those sketch up mods.

Little confused by the fan on the inside for harddrives. On that silverstone hard drive cage the fan is on the inside at the front of the case.

Just had another look. Am I right in thinking you're flipping it round, therefore keeping wiring out the way? Nice idea.

RLM

That fan is the Hard Drive Cage that originally comes in the bottom compartment of the TJ07. He's just mounted it up in the bay area instead.

[b@llz0r]

try not to use those aluminium fans ... they're bulky and costly ... while yield no actual benefits ... besides if u place thermal compound on them and ur rad ... corrossive is gonna visit you ...
best get plastics ...

i dun know bout the 92mm ... the idea seems fresh ... but i think it's better u get a dual 120 rad for top ... seems practical for most tj07 users here ... but 92mm will make u unique though ...

any idea to place a fan controller 5.25"? imo ...

gluck with your work!

Actually I only used those fans in sketchup because im lazzy and those were the ones available :) I'm still looking at fan options... I want blue led fans, any suggestions?




Fantastic work, and what a great way to knock up ideas. Will have to try and convert a few of those sketch up mods.

Little confused by the fan on the inside for harddrives. On that silverstone hard drive cage the fan is on the inside at the front of the case.

Just had another look. Am I right in thinking you're flipping it round, therefore keeping wiring out the way? Nice idea.

RLM

yeah, i found it a great tool to see what fits... check out this dual 480 option i looked at :eek: http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_897296_6472.jpg

you are right, the silverstone cage doesnt have a fan at the back... the cage in the model is from the basement of the TJ07 and i just added the silverstone front to see what it would look like.

[b@llz0r]

You will have alot of hot air in the case you need more fans to pull the hot air out. Here are few pics on how my radiator is mounted:

1. I used three "L" brackets "red squares in pic 1" with a nut underneath to raise the radiator.
2. The bracket fits between the radiator and the fan
3. I have four fans pulling air and two pushing.in addition the psu fan which pulls air from the rad. the brackets holds the radiator like a rock

sorry for the bad quality pics phon cam could not find my camera

Thanks evian, that is similar to my radsupport bracket idea... those holes lined up with the existing ones hey? thats pretty cool... do you get a good seal between the fan and the rad? I was thinking id need to use some spacers to get the fans to sit square... but it probably isnt that important.

[b@llz0r]

updated

[Polizei]

Are you sure, that with the Koolance fittings, that you didn't buy G3/8 fittings for 1/2" ID tubing? The threading on the bottom looks too big to be G1/4" like the Alphacool on the left.

[b@llz0r]

after a bit of research, I think its an ID / OD issue...

the alphacool fittings are for 10mm OD (8mm ID) tube, the koolance fittings look like they are for 10mm ID tube...
I didnt even realise there was a difference.... I thought 3/8 is 3/8 is 3/8

[sickboy8820]

This is going to be one tough build.... So I wish you all the best! Since I've owned this case for a year+ and had about 4 different builds with it, I'm going to throw some ideas out that I've learned...

1) Bottom Section: If you plan to throw two rads down there.. The best temps I was able to pull out where using push/pull on both rads.. Trying different setups I've found it hurt temps breaking up the flow, so have the flow consistent... If we're pulling air from the front, then allow that flow to continue through the case. My first build was having each rad pull fresh air from outside the case through the rad and actually ended up going through the case and INCREASED ambient temps because the hot air "went up".. We all know 21.11C = 70 F (ambient temp) and this is standard temps in my room. So setting up the rads this way actually increased temps by 6-13 degrees.. And yes, this kept temps "cooler" for a short period of time until room temps increased from all the hot air (lack of circulation).. So run the 480 front fans pulling & 480 rear pushing... And then if you decide to throw a 220 behind it, do it the same way so air enters the front and exits the rear... Doing this virtually eliminates any air rising from the bottom portion. Then if we decide to W/C everything like I've done, you'll literally have minimal heat dump as long as we use quality hardware of course...

2) Buy some AC Ryan Mesh and "rebuild" the screens on the side panels.. The stock mesh panels, which allows fresh air into the case, is very restrictive when water cooling.. For a basic server type / air cooled / non-over clocked rig, they're great... But if we're trying to get every ounce of performance out of the hardware, invest in something new.. I went with this:


3) Lastly the top portion has minimal space to throw a rad and fans up there.. At least with the boards I've purchased (Evga 680, DFI P35, DFI X48, Evga 790i etc..), leaves with you literally millimeters of space or no space at all to actually run a rad and fans up top... Yeah of course I could have figured out someway by throwing the rad outside the case but I didn't want it like that. Case is huge BUT isn't a cube type case (compared to my MM Case) where you have plenty of room throughout the case...

Hope this helps...

BRY

[b@llz0r]

thanks Sickboy...

forgive me if this is a noob question, but is this what you mean by push-pull?
http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_900903_3608.jpg

[WhiteFireDragon]

thanks Sickboy...

forgive me if this is a noob question, but is this what you mean by push-pull?


lol push/pull means there are fans on both sides of the rad moving air in the SAME direction. one fan pushes the air into the rad and the other pulls air out of it

[Hijack]

So, do you mean allowing a draw from, let's say, the right side of the case and continuing through the both rads and associated fans and out the left side of the case?

If so, aren't you heating the second rad with the discharge from the first?

Personally, I'm thinking better performance is gained by cutting a bottm center air hole, and then drawing air up in the middle and out through both rads and out the sides of the case...as this..

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7478/tj07coolingrearib9.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tj07coolingrearib9.jpg)

This is my TJ07 plan, but I'm new at it, so not certain. Also, the fins outlined are my idea to ensure stable, continuous airflow to both rads, separating them from each other.

Other comments (other than I love your plan for this TJ07), is that you may want to NOT use a common resevoir for both loops. Just asked that question here last week and was told to avoid mixing temps by dumping water into one res. I plan on using two XSPC res-top DDC-2 pumps mounted exactly where your pumps are. I may move them back outside the bay mounts so that they can be seen through the side window though. They look quite nice. That also saves me two bay mount spaces for fan controllers.

Also, one of the previous posters is probably right, putting all three GPUs in sequence is probably goint to make the last card hot as hell. If there is a way to run them in parallel without screwing up flow too much, you might wanna try that route. Is there a triple tubing splitter on the market?

I'm also using the CFP52 Silverstone 5.25 converter in the front, although I'm trying to figure out how to mount it as low as possible to allow good cross-flow from low front to rear high.

[b@llz0r]

thanks for the comments...

I like your idea for drawing air up through the bottom of the case... you could even put some kind of filter along the bottom to stop the dust.
you could probably use turning vanes like they do in aircon ducts to turn the air rather than full height dividers
http://www.durodynecanada.ca/canada/products/connector/vr1.jpg


koolance make a 4 way splitter which can be 3 way if you blank one outlet off
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=392

I might do some testing on your split res comment.... as i have allready bought the double bay res :/

[b@llz0r]

upd8ed

[evil-98]

nice, i wanted to put two rads on the bottom but my PSU is too long for a 240GTX on the back side.

glad you went with GTXs i got a single 360GTX on my system, and its runs great. i had the same
idea with the 184GTX on the back but i didnt get a round to trying it, and plus looks like there would
be a lot of complication b/c i also wanted a top mounted rad. space wise, especially with 3/4" OD tubes

good luck, looks like a good build

:up:

[rentay]

Fantastic build!

Judging by the updated pics, by installing a quad radiator room certainly vanishes at the bottom of the TJ-07 considering the size of the case!

I would be more inclined to use a triple radiator and offset it against the dual radiator so as to not use elbow fittings (ie slide the triple radiator all the way towards the PSU and the dual radiator the other way); are elbow fittings still considered restrictive?

Keep up the great work!

[daedality]

So, do you mean allowing a draw from, let's say, the right side of the case and continuing through the both rads and associated fans and out the left side of the case?

If so, aren't you heating the second rad with the discharge from the first?

Personally, I'm thinking better performance is gained by cutting a bottm center air hole, and then drawing air up in the middle and out through both rads and out the sides of the case...as this..

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7478/tj07coolingrearib9.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tj07coolingrearib9.jpg)

This is my TJ07 plan, but I'm new at it, so not certain. Also, the fins outlined are my idea to ensure stable, continuous airflow to both rads, separating them from each other.

Other comments (other than I love your plan for this TJ07), is that you may want to NOT use a common resevoir for both loops. Just asked that question here last week and was told to avoid mixing temps by dumping water into one res. I plan on using two XSPC res-top DDC-2 pumps mounted exactly where your pumps are. I may move them back outside the bay mounts so that they can be seen through the side window though. They look quite nice. That also saves me two bay mount spaces for fan controllers.

Also, one of the previous posters is probably right, putting all three GPUs in sequence is probably goint to make the last card hot as hell. If there is a way to run them in parallel without screwing up flow too much, you might wanna try that route. Is there a triple tubing splitter on the market?

I'm also using the CFP52 Silverstone 5.25 converter in the front, although I'm trying to figure out how to mount it as low as possible to allow good cross-flow from low front to rear high.

Wow, this is an amazing idea! I could probably stick in a line of 2 or 3 92mm fans in the middle of my case at the bottom if I put in the holes and had one rad on push, the other on pull. I had actually been debating plans about putting 120mm holes and taking 120mm vents that ran the hot air from the radiator down and out the bottom, away from the other rad.

But that would have removed the fresh air that the second rad needs anyway. Truly, awesome idea, I'd love to see if it actually produces good temps.

[sickboy8820]

Well like i stated earlier, I've thought the same way when it comes to drawing warmer air across the 2nd rad behind the first so I basically did what you're doing, having fresh air "sucked" into the case.. The PROBLEM is the hot air rises into the MOBO compartment and increases the ambient temps and everything inside.. So having the two rads in a push/pull config, didn't really increase temps at all. Now I'm not big on silence.. Yeah it would be great to get the clocks/performance with little to no sound, but it's not important to me... So all my fans are maxed and in turn circulating sooo much air, that the air is cool enough to decrease water temps. My water temps were 1 degree C going this route BUT ambients were 8-10 degrees C (on average) higher.. So I'll take 1 degree higher on the outlet water temps versus my CPU block outlet running hotter.

***Now if you can control the air temp inside the case after allowing the air to rise, all the more power to you.. My biggest concern is how!!! How can we control the air temp allowing this air to rise.. Are we going to insulate so it doesn't affect ambients temps?? Size is going to be a huge concern knowing how much you got in the case and knowing how much you wanna install. So if you can work up an idea that allows the rad to suck fresh air in from the outside and then rise through the MOBO area and outside the top mesh w/o affecting ambient temps, GREAT!!!!! This would be the best way BUT aesthetically seems null... I'd truly enjoy to hear the ideas because it sounds interesting buddy...

BRY

Originally Posted by Hijack View Post
So, do you mean allowing a draw from, let's say, the right side of the case and continuing through the both rads and associated fans and out the left side of the case?

If so, aren't you heating the second rad with the discharge from the first?

Personally, I'm thinking better performance is gained by cutting a bottm center air hole, and then drawing air up in the middle and out through both rads and out the sides of the case...as this..



This is my TJ07 plan, but I'm new at it, so not certain. Also, the fins outlined are my idea to ensure stable, continuous airflow to both rads, separating them from each other.

Other comments (other than I love your plan for this TJ07), is that you may want to NOT use a common resevoir for both loops. Just asked that question here last week and was told to avoid mixing temps by dumping water into one res. I plan on using two XSPC res-top DDC-2 pumps mounted exactly where your pumps are. I may move them back outside the bay mounts so that they can be seen through the side window though. They look quite nice. That also saves me two bay mount spaces for fan controllers.

Also, one of the previous posters is probably right, putting all three GPUs in sequence is probably goint to make the last card hot as hell. If there is a way to run them in parallel without screwing up flow too much, you might wanna try that route. Is there a triple tubing splitter on the market?

I'm also using the CFP52 Silverstone 5.25 converter in the front, although I'm trying to figure out how to mount it as low as possible to allow good cross-flow from low front to rear high.

[rentay]

Maybe to prevent the hot air rising into the motherboard area place a piece of 1mm thick aluminium covering the large holes in the divider? That is, cut it to size so that it fits between both edges and the length is from the back of the case to the beginning of the 5.25" bay supporting sides? This is what I am going to be doing in the next few weeks.

Regards

[Hijack]

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7478/tj07coolingrearib9.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tj07coolingrearib9.jpg)

Looking at the diagram, I'm not sure how you feel warm air would get up into the MB compartment? That's the whole purpose of not putting any rads up there...I hate arbitrarily warming the air up there.

The air comes in the bottom of the case (you don't need fans to draw the air in by the way, since the "pull" configuration of the fans taks care of this easily). The air is pulled through both rads, and vented out the sides of bottom compartment of the case into the room...not the MB compartment

Now, the fins do two things. First, the primary center "T" of the "fin box" separates airflow from the two radiators, so the pull configuration on both does not try to steal air from the other rad. Next, the set of angled fins helps ensure even airflow all the way up the rad fins, rather than having strongest airflow only at the bottom of the rad.

[b@llz0r]

updated

[[XC] NetburstXE]

updated

:up:

[b@llz0r]

After a bit more tinkering this evening it turns out its actually a :thumbsdown:

:(


Those rubber vibration mounts are too long... Ill just go back to bolting the bracket directly to the floor.

[[XC] NetburstXE]

After a bit more tinkering this evening it turns out its actually a :thumbsdown:

:(


Those rubber vibration mounts are too long... Ill just go back to bolting the bracket directly to the floor.

Well that definitely stinks :down::down:

[biftek.]

Get some rubber/neoprene washers instead. :up:

[b@llz0r]

updated!

[disruptfam]

nice work on that res/pump solution!

[septim]

looking good...

[Vargher Warg]

The res you made looks real nice in the front of the Tj07 :up:

[b@llz0r]

thanks, but I didnt make it... its danger den... I'm just modding it a little

[evian_26]

love the reservoir Idea. the koolance gun metal colour looks great.:up:

[Vargher Warg]

thanks, but I didnt make it... its danger den... I'm just modding it a little

Oops! sorry! my mistake! better say great modding then! :D

Anyway! I would like to put that res at the same place in the front of my Tj07, like yours.
But if I put one there under the Silverstone HDD bay converter, I'll end up one bay short for my fan-controller.
(I wish they could make a 9x5.25 bay of Silverstones Tj07 ;))

Looking forward to see more pictures from your build! :up:

[b@llz0r]

thanks!,

you could try a single bay res... but bubbles would probably be a problem

[b@llz0r]

u p d a t e d

[CoNMaN]

Nice :clap: Any updates?

[b@llz0r]

updated!

[b@llz0r]

and again

[b@llz0r]

updated!

[disruptfam]

looking good mate love the stealth drive cover :)

Is it me of did your pics get better all of a sudden> ? lol

[b@llz0r]

cheers mate, it was pretty simple, but effective i think.
Im actually thinking of ditching the hdd bay and just going with plain faceplates for a cleaner look.


I found my charger for my digi camera :)

iphone is still handy for quick updates cos it uploads straight to fb.

[b@llz0r]

updated

[b@llz0r]

up da ted

[b@llz0r]

damn.... i had a bad tap and the right fitting leaks.... looks like ill need a new res :/

[Battle_Rattle]

damn.... i had a bad tap and the right fitting leaks.... looks like ill need a new res :/

Keep going m8! .... I'm a long time TJ-07 owner about to go to H2O... Keep up the battle! :clap:

[b@llz0r]

Cheers mate


My water blocks arrived this week, they are at the nickel platers now and I get them back on monday... should have some more progress to report then :)

[b@llz0r]

I think ill start updating directly in the thread rather than in the first post... Its gona get too slow to load with all those pics...

Well I picked up my blocks from the nickel platers today and im stoked with the result...

Enjoy... watercooling pRon by Eddy Koing:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0ak5p7CQI/AAAAAAAAADE/rPV9LbpGmQg/s800/DSC02752.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0a9_wzMrI/AAAAAAAAADc/nIAZVEZpn8s/s800/DSC02755.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0bcAo3m1I/AAAAAAAAAD8/B1Q8CU9Rm1Y/s800/DSC02760.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0db7QuB6I/AAAAAAAAAHw/fjFynv1o44g/s800/DSC02795.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0eCis6fvI/AAAAAAAAAIw/TFIFzEyhdHQ/s800/DSC02806.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0eGXAFz6I/AAAAAAAAAI4/Z28dSns6N5s/s800/DSC02807.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0eg12Yl0I/AAAAAAAAAJk/jduxOGNQ7y4/s800/DSC02819.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0etPSY89I/AAAAAAAAAJ8/e6h-E8IIko0/s800/DSC02823.JPG

Leak test is going well... was a bit worried about the gaskets... they were tricky to get back in

http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE0pi39AVLI/AAAAAAAAAKk/7_A962Aw1ug/s800/DSC02829.JPG

[ctgilles]

Really nice :clap: Your log shows that you are very creative and smart! Neat build and good thinking :cool:

[Anti`]

Nice build. That skecthup sure is handy. Also keep updating in new posts, havign to go back to the beginning is confusing.

[disruptfam]

b@llzor mate where did you get those blocks nickel plated?

[b@llz0r]

Thanks for the encouragement guys!

it seems my pump is strugling with that loop... and its gota go through a 240GTX yet!!!

My flowmeter is reading 3054 RPM, which is 3.054 L/m which is only 0.7926 GPM and i think that pump is a DDC 3.2...

I might need to rethink things a bit

[b@llz0r]

b@llzor mate where did you get those blocks nickel plated?


http://www.silverplating.com.au/

They are in Perth

looks like there are a few in BrizVegas (http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBR_enAU278AU278&q=nickel+plating+brisbane) too.

I got them done dirt cheap because the guys just put them through with a nickel plating run they had going already

[disruptfam]

nice cheers mate...

You have pm

[b@llz0r]

Got my blocks on... Im lovin how this Fesser UV Blue looks under uv!

http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE_U9bVrE3I/AAAAAAAAAN4/YRXNPOqBC74/s800/DSC02866.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE_VKfLvuAI/AAAAAAAAAOA/J5YK24nwyZM/s800/DSC02870.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE_VWQA7y8I/AAAAAAAAAOI/qFz18OGHvgc/s800/DSC02871.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE_VccL8vAI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/5HnLoQEUTRY/s800/DSC02877.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SE_U4WzRULI/AAAAAAAAANw/5C2BAfYvL58/s800/DSC02843.JPG

[b@llz0r]

Flow is better now I got rid of those three elbows too... up to 3.6 LPM (.95 GPM) Still not great, and still not going through the 240 GTX yet :(

[disruptfam]

very nice mate!

what gpu are you running?

[b@llz0r]

3 way OCd 8800 Ultras :D

[disruptfam]

:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2:

nice

[evil-98]

the nickel plating is nice :up:

[b@llz0r]

my SLI fittings arrived today so I was able to assemble the gfx loop and see what it will look like inside the case for the first time.

I pick up the new res tomorrow so hopefully this weekend ill get it all assembled and hit the power button!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SFfafelO1UI/AAAAAAAAAPU/8Rc5bonYOaE/s800/DSC02886.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SFfau89f-dI/AAAAAAAAAPk/jjj94CyuulQ/s800/DSC02887.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SFfalS0oBOI/AAAAAAAAAPc/FjnoFnEwrxs/s800/DSC02881.JPG

[manyga]

Amazing pics!!

VIncredible 3-SLI, Very nice build!

Regards!

[b@llz0r]

cheers mate... im not sure how the good the flow will be to the 3rd card since they are parrallel, but ill test it and see.

[fadetoblack]

looking good man. i had a question - in the 5th picture from post #1, what are those clamp type things holding the tube to the side of the bays like that?

[b@llz0r]

http://photos-022.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v289/103/119/586898022/n586898022_973343_5435.jpg

just a cable tie

[fadetoblack]

oh ok i see it now.. do you know if there is any clamp type thing that a 3/4" OD tube would fit nicely in? im looking for something to hold my filling tube so i can easily attach/detach it.

[disruptfam]

looking really good mate!could you link me to those sli fittings.

also what mobo?

my res's should be imminent

[b@llz0r]

looking really good mate!could you link me to those sli fittings.

also what mobo?

my res's should be imminent

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=586

they have 1 2 and 3 slot variable connectors

the mobo is an Asus S2E

Im looking out for the res's :up:

[JINU]

wow... what kind of radiators you using?

[disruptfam]

black ice rads

480gtx 240gtx iirc

Any updates B@llzor? :)

you have pm.

[b@llz0r]

man what a nightmare weekend... it seemed that everything I touched sprang a leak!

I thought I had it all sorted last night when my M180 GTX Rad sprang a leak.

Ive since pulled it out of the system, hopefully ill power up tonight!

Ill post an update when I get back from work.

[disruptfam]

man what a nightmare weekend... it seemed that everything I touched sprang a leak!

I thought I had it all sorted last night when my M180 GTX Rad sprang a leak.

Ive since pulled it out of the system, hopefully ill power up tonight!

Ill post an update when I get back from work.

oh crap that sucks

How many leakages did you have? and where?

[b@llz0r]

oh crap that sucks

How many leakages did you have? and where?

all the leaks were in the basement, I installed 4 temp sensors in delrin tees (one on the inlet and outlet of the rads) it was very cramped and I found it hard to get the fittings tight.

After an ek sb and a thermalright HR-05 I finally solved the S2E 3 way sli issue with an enziotech
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_EeS6PoYI/AAAAAAAAAUw/TcdPekgmu2g/s800/DSC02930.JPG

Here is the culprit that almost KOed my 8800s
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_Eko2IsDI/AAAAAAAAAU8/o5HL-uom60o/s800/DSC02932.JPG

Drives going in
http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_Ev9X4sYI/AAAAAAAAAVE/JC2ylopLkJc/s800/DSC02926.JPG

Well here goes
http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_BzKbXxmI/AAAAAAAAASc/qeX6Xpvs34k/s800/DSC02934.JPG

Woohooooo!!1
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_DMNKiHyI/AAAAAAAAATk/FMkz3znnurk/s800/DSC02935.JPG

Cue cheezy 70s :banana::banana::banana::banana: music
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_DXmEbA4I/AAAAAAAAAT0/rRXnBSN1-8M/s800/DSC02937.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_Do_4_YYI/AAAAAAAAAUA/T9SD5SPI_4M/s800/DSC02949.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_Cy5mInWI/AAAAAAAAAT8/VjbM9mlW_YM/s800/DSC02947.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_CorKGFOI/AAAAAAAAAS0/RCWHvaZJaBI/s800/DSC02951.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_EIwMRk8I/AAAAAAAAAUg/MORk5LiyyxA/s800/DSC02961.JPG

Looks like someone filled my rez with smurf jizm, I flushed the rads... nfi what caused this cloudiness
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_DylFnWXI/AAAAAAAAAUI/uaRsdNt-JLk/s800/DSC02952.JPG


http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SF_CMGP1lXI/AAAAAAAAAUo/3GVAHerV4vY/s800/DSC02972.JPG

Windows is loading as I type this.

Still a lot to do on it, the Gfx Cards need some lighting... looks like a black hole down there... I decided to defer all "non essential" mods until after I got it up and running.

It will be good to get some temps recorded before my replacement M180 arrives anyway.

Flow on the GPU loop is good at 3.7L/m, the cpu loop is not so good at 3.1 but should be ok.

[masxerofkartis]

Are you using sketch-up??? Do you import a template or do you have freehand allover???

Sorry for Off topic post

[YMAA]

Nice work!

[JINU]

Are you using sketch-up??? Do you import a template or do you have freehand allover???

Sorry for Off topic post

http://scc.jezmckean.com/

[disruptfam]

that looks great.Nice work

The cloudiness should go after the bleeding stage :)

Post some temps when you can.

[The[R]eaper]

wow great rig man. :up:

love the look and those blackfire4's:)

[b@llz0r]

that looks great.Nice work

The cloudiness should go after the bleeding stage :)

Post some temps when you can.


Yep its all cleared up now

[b@llz0r]

oh man.... what a nightmare couple of weeks

Vista64 + S2E + 1st major watercooled build = about 10 years off my life expectancy

1st the S2E was a real :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to get going... took me ages to figure out the reason it would only boot with the install dvd in the drive. Turns out it had written the MBR to my storage drive... a tip for anyone installing vista, only have one HDD or array connected when installing.

2nd after finally getting the system running, I woke up one morning and the pc would short when I tried to power up... not a good sign, I finally discovered that a micro leak from my flowmeter had ran down some tubes and onto my 8800s... 2 of them are DOA.

The only place I can find replacement 8800 ultras is a rip off merchant from ebay charging 800$ each for them (since they are discontinued) ive been looking at EKs new 280 blocks and considering upgrading to 3 x EVGA 280s (@ $800 each) but my psu doesnt have 3 x 6+8 PCIe connectors (it has 2 x 6+8 and 1 x 6+6)

BANANAS!!!!

[disruptfam]

oh man.... what a nightmare couple of weeks

Vista64 + S2E + 1st major watercooled build = about 10 years off my life expectancy

1st the S2E was a real :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to get going... took me ages to figure out the reason it would only boot with the install dvd in the drive. Turns out it had written the MBR to my storage drive... a tip for anyone installing vista, only have one HDD or array connected when installing.

2nd after finally getting the system running, I woke up one morning and the pc would short when I tried to power up... not a good sign, I finally discovered that a micro leak from my flowmeter had ran down some tubes and onto my 8800s... 2 of them are DOA.

The only place I can find replacement 8800 ultras is a rip off merchant from ebay charging 800$ each for them (since they are discontinued) ive been looking at EKs new 280 blocks and considering upgrading to 3 x EVGA 280s (@ $800 each) but my psu doesnt have 3 x 6+8 PCIe connectors (it has 2 x 6+8 and 1 x 6+6)

BANANAS!!!!

sorry to hear that mate :(

you can't rma the gfx cards? they won't know it was water damage?

also wait abit AS the gtx 280 are dropping in price....

[MomijiTMO]

:rotf:
Oh man, you really need a store to mess up and send you 3 GTX280s instead of 1. I mean I think you have had enough bad luck for the year. Try RMAing them, you still have one to keep you happy for the 2 months right?

PS : Best of luck and by that I mean the good stuff :)

[b@llz0r]

sorry to hear that mate :(

you can't rma the gfx cards? they won't know it was water damage?

also wait abit AS the gtx 280 are dropping in price....

ive taken off the stock coolers and chucked em :/

I think ill hunt around for some 8800 ultras, since I already have the FC blocks

[disruptfam]

ive taken off the stock coolers and chucked em :/

I think ill hunt around for some 8800 ultras, since I already have the FC blocks

i wouldnt bother with the ultras unless u get them cheap mate.

[b@llz0r]

well i managed to pick up some 8800 ultras off ebay cheap so i could reserect the build

almost there.... just need to tidy up those sata cables and the wires at the back
http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SIlMfnufxXI/AAAAAAAAAY4/uNdnYcfd-w4/s800/DSC03037.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SIlLwraRgXI/AAAAAAAAAYg/LpqXGuX9mR4/s800/DSC03021.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SIlL6s3WQnI/AAAAAAAAAYo/OgmzEkoAIHM/s800/DSC03023.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SIlMZnQ_dXI/AAAAAAAAAYw/EAIh44zAfpk/s800/DSC03034.JPG


i was a little dissapointed by the 3d mark scores until I cranked the res up to 3840x1024 running through my triple head to go box and was still in 12k land
Im yet to fully load up the 8800s but they are maintaining about a 1-3oC delta in parrallel

Its not overclocking well at all... anything above stock isnt stable... I guess I need to play round with it for a few more days

[Dangals]

Good to hear you are back up and running again!:up:

I see you have taken out the top grill - are you planning on getting one of the grill's from Charles @ murdermod for it?

[b@llz0r]

I was planning on getting an acrylic panel made up for it

[Dangals]

I was planning on getting an acrylic panel made up for it

Nice do you have any designs for it yet?

[b@llz0r]

nothing for the top window yet, but was thinking of something like this for the side window

should look sweet laser etched

http://lh3.ggpht.com/BWestworth/SFzOr05HOsI/AAAAAAAAARY/OB5AQpebRxg/s800/Window1.jpg

[just a noob]

what are you going to do with the dead ultras? on another note, the build looks like its coming along great

[emoners]

how did you mount that acrylic on your vc?

[disruptfam]

did u get the innards powdercoated?

[MomijiTMO]

I hope those ultras were dirt cheap for you :). That acrylic panel would look pretty awesome but I can't really say I like the text though.

:up:

[emoners]

I hope those ultras were dirt cheap for you :). That acrylic panel would look pretty awesome but I can't really say I like the text though.

:up:

i agree...the pic is awesome etched but the extra text might get it to look messy

[b@llz0r]

what are you going to do with the dead ultras?

sell em on ebay :D


naah j/k ive chucked em



how did you mount that acrylic on your vc?

Just screwed it to the top isung the mounting holes for the fan.


did u get the innards powdercoated?

Nope, just spray cans


What's forcing the water to pass through all of the graphic cards? :shrug:

Are your temps even amongst the cards?

Loop goes


> GPU >
pump > flowmeter > GPU > 480GTX > Res
> GPU >


It was a bit of an experiment to see what parrallel 3 way sli temps were like.

Currently under moderate load (3d mark runs) temps stay withing 1- 2 degrees C of each other.

[Hijack]

I think what Spotswood was asking is what makes the water actually flow across the graphics card blocks when they are in parrallel? Why doesn't the water just run down through the barbs and back up with nothing actually putting pressure on it to go into the block? I'm curious myself.

[b@llz0r]

yeah i get what you mean

the inlets are linked so the pressure across all three blocks is almost equal


if you imagine a bucket with three holes in it, water is gona come out of all three

[Hijack]

Still not sure how it works, but doesn't matter...as long as it just does work! :D

Anyhow, had a question for you about your sketchup work. How did you get the tubing routed so well. I've been working on mine for some time, albeit I'm not doing a constrained routing (I've been trying to actually route out realistic bends and arcs) even doing the constrained stuff you did is VERY freaking hard. Good work! Is there some trick I haven't learned, or did you just extrude out your cylinders using the "follow-me" tool?

[Pellepel]

spectacular!

[b@llz0r]

Still not sure how it works, but doesn't matter...as long as it just does work! :D

Anyhow, had a question for you about your sketchup work. How did you get the tubing routed so well. I've been working on mine for some time, albeit I'm not doing a constrained routing (I've been trying to actually route out realistic bends and arcs) even doing the constrained stuff you did is VERY freaking hard. Good work! Is there some trick I haven't learned, or did you just extrude out your cylinders using the "follow-me" tool?

Draw in your centre lines, add arcs to the corners.... make em as big as you can (to the midpoint of your shorter centreline) at one end draw 2 circles (id and od of your tubing), delete the inside one and use follow me to pull it along your centrelines

[b@llz0r]

What a difference good ram makes.


After a month of batteling with my OCZ 1333 2gb sticks I was starting to think my mobo was the problem.

bit the bullet and went out and bought a 2g (2x1) corsair dominator PC-14400 kit.
My rig booted up cleanly and got a clear memtest86+ result

Just for kicks I set my Q6600 to 1337 x 9 linked and synched (~3ghz) all other settings on auto and windows booted no problems at all
Scored a 14850 3d mark at 3840x1024 resolution with the graphics cards barely breaking a sweat, the cards maxed at about 55 with water temps through the 480GTX at 28 in 25 out.

I didnt get much time to enjoy it tho because i had to fly out for work... so for the next three weeks ill be stuck here (http://www.argylediamonds.com.au/operations_mining_text.html)

Cant wait to get back so i can see what this machine can do!

[disruptfam]

glad you got that sorted out mate...

:)

clean it up close and it up and finish it up...

then post pics galore!

[mpower1001]

b@llzOr, that tri-sli setup is sweet. Nice TJ07

[F3RR3T]

Most of the sketchup components are from The Sketchup Components Collection (http://scc.jezmckean.com/)... bigups to scooby, his work is flawless :eek:

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_892696_8085.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_892697_8480.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_892698_8847.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_892699_9207.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/103/119/586898022/n586898022_892700_9560.jpg
Basically its going to be dual loop with a common res.

Loop 1 res>pump1>GFX1>GFX2>GFX3>GTX480>res
Loop 2 res>pump2>CPU>Mosfet>GTXM184>Mosfet>NB>SB>GTX240>Res



hey you wouldnt be willing to send me the sketchup file for the case would you. ive been working on one but its no where as nice as your case at all. my email is Support@RCBenclosures.com

[dingdong555]

Hey man,

just a quick one since the topic was bumped by above lol, did you use dye? if so, what...?

Thanks.

[b@llz0r]

@Ferret
Sorry mate, i lost the sketchup file in a raid failure :/

The original model is here http://scc.jezmckean.com/skp/SilverStone%20Temjin%20SST-TJ07SW.skp

@Dingdong
Nope, just Water & PTNuke
Tubes are fesser blue and clear blue under UV

[Henry8601]

Love that design for the window - I think the text would look great if you could get it to come out cleanly. What did you decide to do about the window?

[b@llz0r]

I never ended up getting the custom window done and this build has since been decommissioned

I had it running for a few months but I had a lot of issues with the layout.

What I learnt:

- Common res sux, I should have had two independant loops
- Difficult to tube up back to back rads. I was constantly getting issues with kinked tubes in te space between the rads, the floor of the case made it really difficult to get this sorted.
- 1 DDC was too weak for my CPU & chipset loop... I was running at about .6-.8 GPM
- Those U flowmeters from Koolance are crapola, restriction was one thing, but build quality was also bad with the threaded ends just glued in. Ended up leaking.
- Too many LEDs make your eyes bleed
- Single bay res was too small, and the location was bad for filling.

Ive since built my second WC rig, I ended up canabilising some of the parts from my TJ07.
Build log is here http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=205938