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C'DaleRider
05-01-2008, 08:47 PM
OK....another try on redoing my loops while trying to WC a pair of 3870's in Crossfire....


So, another scenario to present.....


Loop #1:

--Asus Maximus Formula NB w/ EK S-Max block

--2 x 3870 video cards w/XSPC Razor full cover blocks

--Laing DDC2 pump w/XSPC top

--Swiftech micro-res

--Thermochill PA120.3 radiator w/3 S-Flex "F" fans



Loop #2:

--Q6600 @ 3.6GHz @ 1.35V

--EK Supreme or D-Tek Fuzion w/quad nozzle (haven't decided upon which yet...ideas?)

--Laing DDC2 pump w/XSPC res/top

--Thermochill 120.1 radiator



All blocks, etc. plumbed with 3/8" x 5/8" Tygon.


So, will the single TC rad cool the Q6600 or am I tilting at windmills?

And I cannot fit, comfortably at least, either a longer rad (such as a GTX480) or a second rad bigger than a single 120 type.

IanY
05-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Is it possible for the single to be a PA160?

Otherwise, I think you're better off with a single loop with everything in series.

CedricFP
05-01-2008, 09:08 PM
I would say a 120.3 would handle ALL of that in a single loop.

C'DaleRider
05-01-2008, 09:17 PM
Is it possible for the single to be a PA160?

Otherwise, I think you're better off with a single loop with everything in series.


I had hoped the entire setup could be handled with my single TC 120.3, but I got a suggestion that the cpu + both gpu's would push the TC to its upper limits of capacity, possibly overloading it.

I currently have the cpu (using the D-Tek Fuzion block) and NB (using the EK S-Max block) being cooled with the TC 120.3 and can undervolt the S-Flex fans waaaaay down....to like 5V or so.....and still maintain temps under full load in the mid-50's C very easily.

But if I change to the EK Supreme block and add the two gpu blocks, I was going to add in the second DDC2 pump....I already have it on hand.

So, would the single loop really work and work well?

Waterlogged
05-01-2008, 09:47 PM
It depends. If your looking to match the 10°C delta in the TC graphs...it'd be very close, but you'd need stronger fans. If your not looking for the 10°C delta, then yeah, it should.

C'DaleRider
05-01-2008, 11:06 PM
Well, have in mind changing my fans over to Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000's and managing them on my fan controller.

LinusTech
05-01-2008, 11:33 PM
CPUs at full load with 3Dmark06 looping 50x reach 55C max in this rig:

http://www.linustechtips.com/

That's with 1300RPM Noctuas on a Feser One rad. I'm sure you'll be fine....

Soulwind
05-02-2008, 04:32 AM
You're pushing the 120.1 just a bit. Not overloaded yet, but kinda close.

With that setup, I think I'd put everything into one big loop.

(Including both radiators of course), then you'll be able to take advantage of whatever extra capacity the 120.3 has left.

Res -> Pump-> CPU -> PA120.1 -> Pump -> GPU's -> chipsets -> PA120.3

[XC] NetburstXE
05-02-2008, 06:39 AM
You're pushing the 120.1 just a bit. Not overloaded yet, but kinda close.

With that setup, I think I'd put everything into one big loop.

(Including both radiators of course), then you'll be able to take advantage of whatever extra capacity the 120.3 has left.

Res -> Pump-> CPU -> PA120.1 -> Pump -> GPU's -> chipsets -> PA120.3

Best choice, only with the chipset before the GPU's.

Aldy402
05-02-2008, 06:47 AM
yea just use both rads in a series on 1 loop

systemviper
05-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Best choice, only with the chipset before the GPU's.


yea, what he said

I think it meets what your requirments are,
Cooling specific items and
Not adding any more or larger radiators.

Soulwind
05-02-2008, 07:12 AM
Best choice, only with the chipset before the GPU's.

Netburst, just curious why the chipset before the GPU's?

I was under the impression that loop order made very little (if any) total difference for temps (after a few hours so the whole loop stabilizes of course), and that the primary goal is just to keep the tube runs short and sweet.

I guess I can kind of see it, since the GPU's are going to dump a lot more heat than the chipset, but I thought the prevailing wisdom was that it really didn't matter?

C'DaleRider
05-02-2008, 07:16 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to all for all the input.

Now to get a 120.1 rad and teh video card blocks......decisions, decisions.....first it's the EK block, then the XSPC catches my eye, then I find a Koolance 3870 block with NO aluminum in it....just gold plated copper base (always with the gold plating, like that does something for the copper.....!!) and an acrylic-lined steel top...and it's cheaper than either the EK or XSPC top.....

InfamousChu
05-02-2008, 07:30 PM
What about 3870+ cpu on PA120.3 then NB/SB on PA120.1?.. im still a noob so just a suggestion?

C'DaleRider
05-04-2008, 06:03 PM
To bring back this "old" thread....follow up question(s)......


First, space considerations as to where I'll be able to mount the single radiator means I'm going to have to "downgrade" to a Swiftech MCR120 instead of the TC 120 rad.....I figure shouldn't make a huge difference in cooling capacity, should it? It'll have probably a Scythe Ultra Kaze 2000rpm fan on it.

Second, going with the EK 3870 full coverage water blocks after all......been convinced!

Third, the way it look like I'm going to have to replumb my loop to encompass this whole thing, I'm going to have to route the tubing as such:

Res > pump #1 > cpu block > MCR120 rad > pump #2 > gpu > gpu > NB block > TC 120.3 rad > res..........

(As a reminder, pumps are both Laing DDC2, the original DDC2 18W pumps, w/XSPC tops, the cpu block is a D-Tek (at least for now) w/washer and quad nozzle, and NB block is an EK S-Max.)

Horrible solution? Going with the NB chipset first before the gpu's will just give terrible hose routing, so trying to not do that........effect on NB temps if I do what I've planned out?


Thanks for all the suggestions..... :)

Snyxxx
05-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Love those original DDC-2s. I run two as well and would not trade them.