Custom Project: Black Silverstone TJ-10

[ben549]

First for a little bit of background: I've been involved with PCs for the past 8 yrs and I work at a computer store (not a high performance store). About 1-2yrs ago I decided to build a computer and it was a complete success. I finally decided to perform a much needed overhaul of my computer which I started in December when EVGA offered the 680i to 780i step-up to the older and newer 680i owners. During the seemingly endless wait I started to get into light modding which soon manifested itself into an obsessive hobby.

I'm completely overhauling my computer I wanted to do something "different" that hasn't been done a million times like water cooling the TJ07 (granted, some of them look amazing). The case I choose was the TJ10 which I really like the look of. As far as mods go I’ve already started painting parts black and sound proofing. I wasn’t sure what I should do for loop order but this is my plan (see pic below).

More Pictures Soon!

Current/On Order Hardware:
Case:
Silverstone ESA Edition TJ10B-WESA
Silverstone RadSupport09
Silverstone Aluminum 5.25 inches to 3.5 inches Bay Converter Kit
A.C. Ryan Acrylpanel(tm) Mirror 2
Bitspower X-Station Power Extension I
3A Link Sound Absorption Mats

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz @ 3.6GHz (Slacker)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech Apogee GTX (Copper Top)

Motherboard: EVGA NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI
Motherboard Cooler: EK Acetal 780i Northbridge Water Block, EnzoTech SLF-1, ViperJohn 780i Mosfet Heatsink Kit

Memory: CORSAIR 4GB XMS2 DOMINATOR (4x1GB) DDR2 800
Memory Cooler: CORSAIR CMXAF1 Fans

Graphics: EVGA GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB
Graphics Cooler: EK-FC9800 GX2 SLI - Nickel-Plated

Storage: 4x 150GB Western Digital Raptor X (Raid 0+1)

PSU: Gigabyte 800Watt ODIN GT

Case Fans: 6x 120mm Scythe SFF21E S-FLEX, A.C. Ryan Blackfire4 Kameleon (Special Edition) UV LEDFan - 120mm- Sleeved Silverstone RL-FX121 Case Fan

Lights: A.C. Ryan TWIN Overboost Dual 12" CCFL UV Lights, Sunbeam Tech Dual 12" UV CCD Light Kit

Radiator: Black Ice GT Stealth 240, Black Ice GT Stealth 120

Reservoir: EK-Multioption RES 150 Rev 2, EK Multioption RES Bottom Rev.2

Pump: Swiftech MCP655 12 VDC Pump MCP655-B

Tubing: 13FT - Tygon 1/2" ID (5/8" OD) Tubing with Koolance Tubing Spring Wrap, Black

Fittings:
Bitspower Ultimate G 1/4 Thread 1/2" ID x 5/8" OD Compression Fitting
Bitspower Dual G1/4" High Flow Fitting - Male to Male Thread
Bitspower Multi-Transfer Base (Coupler)
Bitspower G1/4" Stop Fitting with O-ring
Koolance Swiveling Angle Fitting (Low Profile)
Koolance Nozzle Body, Brass

Coolant: Feser One Non Conductive Cooling Fluid - 1000 ml - UV Black

Monitor:
Gateway - 24" Widescreen Flat-Panel TFT-LCD HD Monitor FHD2400
Olevia 37" LCD HDTV LT37HVS

[ben549]

Pictures!

[ben549]

Reserved for updates

[[XC] NetburstXE]

Subscribed.

[stocius]

Subscribed as well

[rioja]

where cd-rom will be if u want 120x1 there?

[ls206]

looks like he planning to put the rad on it's "back" so to give space for a dvd fan control etc..
edit...maybe just 1 5.25" device

[ben549]

The 120mm radiator will be mounted horizontally in the 5.25 bays. I’m now having issues where the radiator is too long.

[F1ZZY]

Just put a tripple in the top if you can. easier and cheaper (plus better cooling)

[ben549]

I just dont have the room but i did try a PA120.3 and it was too thick.

[disruptfam]

sounds like a good project look forward to updates

[F1ZZY]

I just dont have the room but i did try a PA120.3 and it was too thick.

Is the limitation just the thickness? Use a thinner one

[ben549]

the rad brackets are problematic as well.

[rioja]

hm, i think u should come more 'conceptual' to this mod
for now ur approach is as minimal mod as possible imho
tj-10 is great case, load it at full)

[MomijiTMO]

This will be sweet!

I can't wait for updates.

[ben549]

Pictures Added!

[disruptfam]

nice pics

looks good so far

[Cptn Vortex]

What is that piece on the back, between the Rad and the rear of the case?? My TJ09 does not have that

[crackbag]

i love the pump wow i want to do that to mine now A+

[Elusid]

What is that piece on the back, between the Rad and the rear of the case?? My TJ09 does not have that

No idea but this is a TJ10 not a TJ09

[ben549]

What is that piece on the back, between the Rad and the rear of the case?? My TJ09 does not have that

Its one of Silverstone’s Cross-flow fans which got a black paint job! ;) (I’m glad to hear it goes so well with the case.)

[[XC] NetburstXE]

Amazing :up:

[ben549]

Thanks! As soon as my Ek 9800GX2 block shows up ill post some more updates. Does anyone have any comments about the loop order?

[ben549]

EVGA Nvidia 9800GX2 & EK Nickel Plated Water block

[ben549]

My own personal twist on the 9800GX2 Waterblocks!!!!.......Hopefully I'm the First!

[Metric]

My own personal twist on the 9800GX2 Waterblocks!!!!.......Hopefully I'm the First!
As far as I've seen, you are, great idea. Great looking computer project so far, subscribed as well :up:

[manyga]

Niceee work!!

[ben549]

Thanks for all the positive feedback! Just wait, the next updates will feature the 9800GX2 with compression fittings attached and wired with two red LED’s. I’m currently waiting for the second red LED to arrive and I still have to grind down the case so the compression fittings will fit.

[ben549]

Sorry for taking so long with these updates! I swear I’ve redesigned this loop 10 times but now I think I’m finally content with it......For now....

The new loop order will be:
Apogee GTX -> EK 150 Reservoir -> D5 -> 120 Radiator -> 9800GX2 Block -> 240 Radiator

In my loop I use Bitspower's 1/2 ID fittings and I need to use 4 of Koolance's elbow fittings, 3 of Bitspower's high flow male-male adapters, and 2 of Bitspower's high flow female-female couplers. How negatively will the elbows and couplers affect my flow? (I would use martins flow rate estimator but it doesn’t have most of my hardware) I would also like to add a drain right before the EK 9800GX2 Water block but I fear this would really hurt my flow.

In the near future I’m hoping to sell my EVGA 780i and 4GB of Corsair Dominator ram and buy a EVGA 790i FTW (assuming its ever released) and 4GB of good DDR3 ram (CAS 5 to 7).

A word of warning to anyone who plans to attempt the 9800GX2 case mod I did: The two holes on the back side of the card (the side facing the mobo) used for holding the two parts of the case together are positioned right over the Southbridge on the 780i. To secure the two sides of the case together I used as single zip tie; unfortunately the zip tie sticks out too far and interferes with my EnzoTech SLF-1 Southbridge cooler. I’m currently working on a solution for this issue.

[ben549]

More Pictures!!!

[Cptn Vortex]

Wow, so so nice. I just got a 9800GX2 as well....I kinda want a block for it now.... What is that PSU baffle thing hanging off the back?

[ben549]

Its Silverstone’s Power supply acoustic cover. I removed the Silverstone logo and painted it black to match the case.

Here’s the link to it:
http://silverstonetek.com/products/p_contents.php?pno=pp02&area=usa

[Cptn Vortex]

Cooool

[Cupcake]

Man that looks great

[ben549]

Yea, I’m really happy with how it’s turning out. The pictures make the 9800GX2 block look orangish yellow when actually it looks dark red. Does anyone have any response regarding my question about using elbows and couplers and their effects on flow?

[[XC] NetburstXE]

Yea, I’m really happy with how it’s turning out. The pictures make the 9800GX2 block look orangish yellow when actually it looks dark red. Does anyone have any response regarding my question about using elbows and couplers and their effects on flow?

The elbows definitely won't help the flow, but you have a powerful pump so you'll be fine.

[teko]

I must say that I prefered the GX2 block to be vissible, it's so pretty in it's own in nickel :) And I don't get the color of the block if you plan on using blue led fans ;) Elbows will harm your flow some, but most likely not enough to really hurt your performance ;)

[Pub_Randy**]

I must say that I prefered the GX2 block to be vissible, it's so pretty in it's own in nickel :) And I don't get the color of the block if you plan on using blue led fans ;) Elbows will harm your flow some, but most likely not enough to really hurt your performance ;)

I like the use of the GX2 cover myself, it makes it look much neater, especially where the power will be going. Cool little shroud too - and the red lighting gives the waterblock feature.

As for the elbows.. i dont think its going to be harmful either :)

[disruptfam]

very nice indeed

[pvtdonuts]

If you wanna make the Evga cover look alittle bit better on the side, u can remove the small evga sticker carefully and uncover this
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m193/rocerocket505/IMG_0924.jpg
alittle hard to see, but it's the original geforce lettering intended to be there, looks better IMO

[ben549]

I was amazed I was able to mount the pump directly to the reservoir which is secured to the top by a DD Delrin fillport (Not pictured). I can finally continue with the build which I’ve been delaying because I hated having the pump in the bottom of the case. This layout is much more space efficient I might even be able to add another small loop if absolutely necessary for the 790i FTW.




I must say that I prefered the GX2 block to be vissible, it's so pretty in it's own in nickel :) And I don't get the color of the block if you plan on using blue led fans ;) Elbows will harm your flow some, but most likely not enough to really hurt your performance ;)


Actually the amazing thing about this build is that every fan and light/LED can be independently controlled. This includes the blue fan which features independent 3 pin power connections for the fan and its LEDs.



If you wanna make the Evga cover look alittle bit better on the side, u can remove the small evga sticker carefully and uncover this
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m193/rocerocket505/IMG_0924.jpg
alittle hard to see, but it's the original geforce lettering intended to be there, looks better IMO

WHAT?!?!?!?! NO WAY!!!! I had no idea that was under there; I can’t wait to remove that poorly applied EVGA sticker. (The stickers on the top and bottom will stay though)

[[XC] NetburstXE]

WHAT?!?!?!?! NO WAY!!!! I had no idea that was under there; I can’t wait to remove that poorly applied EVGA sticker. (The stickers on the top and bottom will stay though)

:rofl:

[pvtdonuts]

Haha, glad I could help and yes it is poorly applied. Of every GX2 we had at work, pretty much all of the stickers were crooked; oh and btw the top and bottom stickers dont reveal any surprises...haha

[ben549]

Lol Yea, luckily I like the graphics on the top and bottom of the case. Getting that sticker off was a pain though as I almost removed a few of the letters but all is well as you can see in the picture!

I have now attached the SPDIF cable to the 9800GX2 and wired it to come out the back of the case. (See pictures)

I picked up two blue acrylic boxes at the sharper image store which was closing so I got them for $3 each……..I have no idea what I will use them for………maybe the CPU water block I’ve been designing…….

[ben549]

updates continued.....

[disruptfam]

nice work mate..

what did you do the ek block? looks bling

[ben549]

nice work mate..

what did you do the ek block? looks bling

Thanks but not a whole lot to be honest; added the nickel plated compression fittings, 2 red LED’s, dremeled the hell out of the case, wiped it with a microfiber cloth obsessively and that was about it! FYI the block came nickel plated.

[disruptfam]

so polished the block? i was talking about the ek chipset block :)

[pvtdonuts]

it looks like it got a coat of gloss black

[ben549]

OoOoOoOoh………..Yea it got painted….the obsessive/ anal-retentive way. So basically lapped to 2000 grit, buffed, 4 coats of gloss black, 4 more coats of clear coat, and then polished. Now I’m hoping to step up to the 790i FTW so all my efforts will have been for not. Either way it looks a lot better then it did when I received it with all the machining marks on top. You may have noticed that most of what I do is done in an obsessive/ anal-retentive way………..:D

[ben549]

Which of the 3 orientations pictured will have the best flow?
Incase anyone is wondering what part is actually being moved around in the pictures, it’s the male end of a Koolance shutoff nozzle.

[pika198]

I like the twist with putting the stock cooler back on with the waterblock :D

Quick question though...can u still use the original fan and the waterblock? Now that would lead to ultimate cooling :shocked:

[Helfarch]

The less 90* bends you have in the system the better.

[Serpentarius]

excellent ... and very fresh idea for your gpu block! 1st time seen anyone in the forum does this ...

[ben549]

The less 90* bends you have in the system the better.
So far I’m leaning towards the first orientation in the picture. There really isn’t a way to not have this be a 90 degree angle but as others have stated before: the D5 is a strong pump and should be able to handle it.


excellent ... and very fresh idea for your gpu block! 1st time seen anyone in the forum does this ...

Yea I haven't seen many people use this much nickel in there builds either lol. I will probably stick with this design assuming it doesn’t interfere with the second loop I’m planning………woops! I wasn’t going to tell you about that yet;)

[Helfarch]

What I meant was one config there looks effectively like two 90* bends but I'm no expert on fluid dynamics.

[Cptn Vortex]

I am stealing your idea for the GPU block, cause it looks so darn cool!! Kudos brother! (TJ09 as well!)

[ben549]

Lol go right ahead, I’m glad to be able to contribute! Just wait, I have quite a few more mods to take pictures of and many more in the works. (Some of which include a beverage chiller mod, 5.25” bay mods, ect.)

[HaCKs]

Looks amazing so far! I am very impressed.

[Anemic]

Great pictures, what camera are you using? Really sweet looking build so far, looking forward to see it finish.

[ben549]

I shoot with a Nikon D80 (soon to be D300) and either an 18mm-200mm VR or a 50mm f1.8D.

[disruptfam]

d300!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice mate!!!

so expensive though

[ben549]

d300!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice mate!!!

so expensive though

True, but I get a discount and using a VR lens is like CHEATING!!!

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I need to get a DDC variant but I have a quick question; Petras sells a Laing DDC-3.2 (18W)/Swiftech MCP355 Inline 12V DC Pump but are all of the Swiftech MCP355’s the Laing DDC 3.2 variation? I’ve been reading around the forums and I see a lot of issues with this pump? Is this really a good choice?

So as you can see I changed my mind as far as the orientation of the drain. The way I figure it, once that small space fills with coolant it will act as just another side and inhibit the flow much less!

Other TJ09 and TJ10 owners may have noticed this; in the bottom of the case is the custom made cable hider. It blends in quite well if I might say so myself.

[disruptfam]

mcp355 laing ddc 3.2 same pump diff branding

nice drain

[disruptfam]

:shocked: Please get rid of those ugly green washers on the CPU block mounting studs/bolts.

I like the drain setup.

they do serve a purpose mate and you cant really see them with the block on.

[ben549]

This is what I have so far for my second loop setup, any recommendations?

From Petras
Danger Den Acetal FillPort
Laing DDC-3.2 (18W)/Swiftech MCP355 Inline 12V DC Pump

From Performance-pcs
(I hate them with a passion and recommend against them!!!)
Magicool Extreme Slim Profile 1X120mm Radiator - Black
XSPC LCD Display Temperature Sensor - Red
LED - Pre-wired with Connectors - 5mm - Red
Bitspower G 1/4" Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting
*** NEW *** XSPC Laing DDC Stand - Black
*** NEW *** XSPC Premium Acrylic Reservoir for Laing DDC
*** NEW *** Koolance Nozzle Body, Brass [no nozzles]
*** NEW *** Koolance Swiveling Angle Fitting (Low Profile), Single
Bitspower Dual G1/4" High Flow Fitting - Male to Male Thread

[disruptfam]

whats the second loop cooling?

[ben549]

whats the second loop cooling?

The :rocker:EVGA 790i FTW:rocker:…….when it finally gets released!

Anything I missed for my second loop?

[disruptfam]

dont think so looks good

just the blocks

[ben549]

Cool! Um what blocks? As far as I know the FTW edition of the 790i is already water cooled……..


ORDERED!!!!!!!

2 x Bitspower Dual G1/4" High Flow Fitting - Male to Male Thread
1 x *** NEW *** Koolance Swiveling Angle Fitting (Low Profile), Single
1 x XSPC LCD Display Temperature Sensor - Red
2 x LED - Pre-wired with Connectors - 5mm - Red
1 x Bitspower G 1/4" Temperature Sensor Stop Fitting
1 x *** NEW *** XSPC Laing DDC Stand - Black
1 x *** NEW *** XSPC Premium Acrylic Reservoir for Laing DDC
1 x *** NEW *** Koolance Nozzle Body, Brass [no nozzles]
1 x Magicool Pro Slim Profile 1X120mm Radiator - Black
1 x Terminal Crimped Wire - Male to Female ( 12" )
2 x Bitspower Premium D-Plug Set
2 x Bitspower Multi-Transfer Base (Coupler) - Set of 2
4 x Cord Clips 3/8" x 3/8" - Black
4 x Cord Clips 1/4" x 1/4" - Black
2 Danger Den Acetal FillPort
1 Laing DDC-3.2 (18W)/Swiftech MCP355 Inline 12V DC Pump
3 Neoprene Rubber Edge Trim ("C-Strip" Molding)
1 120mm Aluminum Fan Filter - Black
1 EK Anti-Cyclone Add-In
1 Feser View Active UV Dye (Black) 50mL
1 **Spring Cleaning** ASUS MOSFET Cooling Fan (two styles)

Cheap….No! Fun…..YES!!!!

[disruptfam]

pic of the ftw edtion please

[ben549]

Here's a link to the evga forums.

EVGA 790i FTW Sneak Peak
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=341966&mpage=1&key=

[ben549]

Sorry for taking so long with these quick updates but I’ve been prepping for finals…….Not!

There will be another update within the next few days.

Picture #1
A shot of the top of the case with only the top two CCFL lights turned on. Please note that the design was not originally intended….but I’m going to pretend it was. ;)

Picture #2
Tapped the DDC Pump with XSPC Res Top and a Bitspower temperature probe.

Picture #3
Side panel with A.C. Ryan AcrylPanel Mirror2. The two way mirror keeps the case looking sleek and clean when the lights in the case are off and reveals everything when the lights are turned on.

Picture #4
The inner side of the panel has been soundproofed. The plastic has temporarily been left on so the acrylic panel doesn’t get damaged. The A.C. Ryan AcrylPanel Mirror2 on the front case panel still needs to be trimmed and a Silverstone LCD and two XSPC Temperature LCDs will be mounted behind it.

Picture #5
Corsair memory cooler with red UV reactive fans!

[yarden]

where do i fin d fans for ythe corsair memory cooler what size are they??

[filthysanchez]

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4630/sex08ac5.gif

I'm loving it so far.

[ben549]

where do i fin d fans for ythe corsair memory cooler what size are they??

You can get them online at stores such as Performance-PCs (although I advise against them) and frozencpu. I used three ACE 40 x 20mm UV Glow Fan - Red in my mod.

[disruptfam]

very nice indeed!

[ben549]

After many failed designs I finally figured out the perfect way to mount one way glass in the 5.25” bays……. :D to bad I’m not going to tell you until I’m done with all of the bays.:D For now here are some more updates!

What causes that discoloration on copper blocks?

[Serpentarius]

After many failed designs I finally figured out the perfect way to mount one way glass in the 5.25” bays……. :D to bad I’m not going to tell you until I’m done with all of the bays.:D For now here are some more updates!

What causes that discoloration on copper blocks?


simple ... just use double cellotape ... nowadays .. these adhesive comes with industrial grade (see natgeo)... it's not surprising if u stand on the acrylic and the still neatly attach on ur side panel ... some 2-tonne strength instant superglue can easier brought in ur local supermarket.


discoloration on copper shows the oxidization is in progress ... salty air, mild acidic air, or pipe water is suspected ...
u dun have to worry ... sooner or later .. ur block will have slight discoloration .. it's natural .. it wont affect ur temps that much ... maybe in nano deg celcius?

[disruptfam]

looks excellent mate!

[ben549]

Actually the technique I used doesn’t require any tape or glue. They could however be used to permanently secure the Plexiglas……but then you can’t put anything behind it or easily take the acrylic off.

I suspected it was oxidization; I guess I can always re-sand it slightly if I get OCD about it. Are you sure the oxidation will have minimal effects on my temps?

I’m not sure if I like the colors of the fans, as well as the brightness of the UV CCFL’s…..What do you guys and gals think?

I’ve been debating whether or not to apply a clear coat over the one way acrylic because it’s very sensitive and cannot be fixed if it gets scratched. As you can tell I have a sort of love hate relationship with this product.

Thanks,
Ben

[Arni]

Awsome job, clean, good photos ...I like It!

[Tonucci]

It looks cool with the VGA cover on, but it was originally meant to channel airflow, so without the fan it will retain heat and may hurt memory/other chips temps. Awesome project nonetheless.

[Cptn Vortex]

Well I tried to take your idea of putting the stock shroud back onto my 9800GX2 after I installed my DD block, and it definitely didnt go easy. There were just too many parts that didnt line up, there was no way it was staying together. Ah well! Yours is looking awesome!

[ben549]

Picture #1
I was cleaning the Southbridge today and I noticed it appears to be chipped; its not toast is it?

Picture #2
Apparently EVGA forgot to remove the sticker from the inside of the Southbridge heatsink……. I’m sure this is great for cooling!

Picture #3
Ahhhhhh, I love how natural light makes the colors appear the way they should!

[ben549]

Picture #1
The EK 780i Northbridge Water Block after sitting out for a week. Ohh well It should work just as well.

Picture #2
The Black Ice GT Stealth 240 and after ½ a gallon of distilled water it looks like this. I decided to stop flushing because it looked so clean.

Picture #3
The Black Ice GT Stealth 120 and after ½ a gallon of distilled water it looks like this. I decided to stop flushing because it looked so clean.

[disruptfam]

nice update look forward to more

[The[R]eaper]

excellent job man! :up:
cant wait for more

[NaeKuh]

just to warn you.

Ive been playing with the koolance quick connects for while now.

And there quite restrictive. Im only using them on my GPU loop and drain plug/line, and had to keep them off the cpu loop.

You should take a look at the inside. There is no way that thing can be free flowing.


Anyhow sexy rig :up:

Keep it coming! :up:

[ben549]

just to warn you.

Ive been playing with the koolance quick connects for while now.

And there quite restrictive. Im only using them on my GPU loop and drain plug/line, and had to keep them off the cpu loop.

You should take a look at the inside. There is no way that thing can be free flowing.


Anyhow sexy rig :up:

Keep it coming! :up:

Lol I’m aware of how restrictive they are, which is why I’m only using them to drain the loop when needed.

[ben549]

Any Comments about the Chipped Southbridge chip?

The project has hit another snag; the XFI sound card sticks out too far. This of course prevents the DDC with XSPC Res Top from being placed on top of the PSU which was the plan. At this point I don't have a clue as to where I’m going to put it. I don't want to ditch my XFI if I can avoid it because the onboard sound is a POS. One option I’m considering is adding my DDC with XSPC Res Top to my sell list and getting an XSPC Bay Res with the pump built in. I know it would be a step down but it would be a lot easier and I might be able to hook it up to my existing fill port which would be cool.

Any recommendations?

[Cptn Vortex]

Dont want to use a Swiftech MicroRES? T-Line?

[ben549]

I personally can’t stand T-lines (from an aesthetics point of view). I actually have an old Micro Res I will try out. I was also looking at the Ek Res Top but it’s not tapped the way I would have liked…….

[iggy2k]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=79455&stc=1&d=1211936833

whats that card behind the soundcard?

[oerekum]

WiFi?

[Waterlogged]

WiFi?

Sure looks like it.

[ben549]

Yep, its one of D-Link’s Extreme N wireless cards.

[aspire.comptech]

Use some ketchup to clean off the copper oxidation.

Squirt some on, let it sit for about 10 min and rinse/wipe clean.

[Hor$eman]

Ditch the D-Link wifi card and go with a Belkin N USB - I have both, and the Belkin is superior.

The D-Link has so many negatives, I wish I hadn't bought it.

Very nice build :up:

[ben549]

Use some ketchup to clean off the copper oxidation.

Squirt some on, let it sit for about 10 min and rinse/wipe clean.

Those pictures are after ketchup has been used……….


Ditch the D-Link wifi card and go with a Belkin N USB - I have both, and the Belkin is superior.

The D-Link has so many negatives, I wish I hadn't bought it.

Very nice build :up:

I work retail and some how I’ve come to own both as well. I personally get great range and speed from D-Links cards (only their high end models, everything else is a POS) and I get mediocre performance out of the Belkin. I also have the extended antenna for the D-Link.

[ben549]

I’ve finally decided to sell the XSPC DDC Res Top and get a different DDC Top and reservoir.
I’ve narrowed my choices down to:

EK-DDC X-RES 100
EK-DDC X-TOP
XSPC Premium Laing DDC Clear Acrylic Top

I’m currently leaning towards the EK-DDC X-RES 100. Can anyone who has comment about it?

I also played with a Swiftech Micro-Res; I tapped 4 more G1/4” ports and 2 LED ports into it for testing. When I was on tapping the last port I accidently cracked the inside!!!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2550405274_d498495fd9.jpg

[Pedalmonkey]

get the XSPC. it increases performance and reduces a lot of space. Martinm tested it and liked it best.

[daos]

Absolutely beautiful case! I have finally made the decision to get the TJ10, just like yours. I will definatly be keeping track of this thread.

Thanks alot for your attenion to detail and posting all of your work. Well done.

[ben549]

I just placed an order from Performance-PCs (although I hate them with a passion) and had it shipped via USPS 1-2 day shipping (no FedEx option and I hate my UPS guy).

2 x *** NEW *** Koolance Nozzle Coupling Adapter, G 1/4 Male-Male
2 x Bitspower Premium D-Plug Set
1 x Swiftech Replacement Thermal Pads
1 x Premium EL Wire: Red
1 x Novus Polish Kit, Plastic Polish & Scratch Remover, 2 oz
4 x Cord Clips 3/8" x 3/8" - Black
1 x EK Multioption RES Bottom Rev.2
- Fitting Size: No Fittings
1 x Blackfire4 UV LED 120mm Fan Sleeved - Red
1 x Professional Case Mod Sleeve Kit - Black
1 x 3M Scotch 4010 Industrial Strength Double Sided Mounting Tape
1 x Pre-Wired Delrin Vandal Resistant Illuminated Switches 16mm Black - Sleeved
- Switch Type: Vandal Red Ring
- Sleeve Color: Black
- Heatshrink Color: Black
1 x Enermax Security Screws
1 x EK-DDC X-RES 100
- Fitting Size: No Fittings
1 x Bitspower Anti-Vibration Ridged M3/M4 Screw Washers (Set of 20) - Black

I JUST CHECKED MY EMAIL AND AN EMAIL FROM NIKON HAS A TRACKING NUMBER WHICH SAYS MY D300 COMES TODAY!!!!! This of course means MANY updates in the next few days……..and very little sleep!

For all of you closely following my build the link below is my flickr account which has many images of my build not posted here. I love taking pictures it’s the write-ups and the explanations I hate. I have no problems answering any questions though.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/

[ls206]

I also played with a Swiftech Micro-Res; I tapped 4 more G1/4” ports and 2 LED ports into it for testing. When I was on tapping the last port I accidently cracked the inside!!!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2550405274_d498495fd9.jpg

Hi Ben, how did you tap the holes?
My plastic cap is stripping...

[disruptfam]

can you post a tutorial on how to tap ?

[ben549]

Sure! I will try to get it posted today!

[evil-98]

OMG... D300... you bastard..

edit:

nice build btw :up: ;)

[ls206]

Sure! I will try to get it posted today!
:D cheers dude! much appreciated.

[disruptfam]

OMG... D300... you bastard..

edit:

nice build btw :up: ;)

i know!!! d300 :D

send me your ol camera :up:

[evil-98]

i know!!! d300 :D

send me your ol camera :up:

id probably be closer :rofl: send it to me! :up:

[ben549]

The pictures for the tutorial are up on my flickr; I will add more descriptions later!

Direct link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/sets/72157605473462934/

So I was going to shoot the tutorial with my new D300 but the Lexar 8GB 300x UDMA Compact flash card I bought only showed 950mb once formatted; so I had to shoot the tutorial with my D80.

[Hor$eman]

The first example will be the best. This is because when the corner is filled with liquid, the flow in the bend is liquid on liquid, which will have minimal resistance by providing laminar flow. This type of turn is called a "Flow-T" (upside down T. in this case).

[disruptfam]

please send your d80,to This Address

XXXxxxXXX

brisbane Australia :)

[BlueAqua]

This build is looking great. Can't wait for updates. I love your implementation with the 9800GX2, I think I might steal it.

[mpower1001]

Just curious how the tygon 1/2-5/8 tubing bends, does it kink easy?

[ben549]

The first example will be the best. This is because when the corner is filled with liquid, the flow in the bend is liquid on liquid, which will have minimal resistance by providing laminar flow. This type of turn is called a "Flow-T" (upside down T. in this case).

I’m not even sure I will be using this setup as it may interfere with the second pump and reservoir.


please send your d80,to This Address

XXXxxxXXX

brisbane Australia :)

Sure ill send the D80, just as soon as you send ~$850 USD!:D


This build is looking great. Can't wait for updates. I love your implementation with the 9800GX2, I think I might steal it.

Just be carful as it has many limitations……


Just curious how the tygon 1/2-5/8 tubing bends, does it kink easy?

Lol it only kinks; I’m using black Anti-Kink coils with black Feser coolant so aesthetically it works.

[ben549]

A few people have asked what paints I used and a picture is easier than a long description….

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2559619157_ed27f76f70.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/2559619157/

[disruptfam]

d300?

[ben549]

d300?

uhhhh.....I don't follow......

[ls206]

I think he's talking about your camera....(i.e. did you take the pictures with the d300? i think I might wet myself) :D

Edit: dude, thanks for the tapping pic's - what size drill bits and tap did you use? (M12 1.25 or 1.5?) cheers.

[mpower1001]

You can get them online at stores such as Performance-PCs (although I advise against them) and frozencpu. I used three ACE 40 x 20mm UV Glow Fan - Red in my mod.

What happen with performance-pcs? I was going to order some water cooling stuff from them.

[ben549]

d300?

Yea, that picture of the paints was taken with the D300. One of the reasons I really like Flickr is because if you look at the bottom right section of the page there is an “Addition Information” section; which not only lists which camera was used but all of the settings of the camera. One thing this forum seems to be missing is a good photography tutorial. This is XtremeSystems; we need to be able to show them off!


I think he's talking about your camera....(i.e. did you take the pictures with the d300? i think I might wet myself) :D

Edit: dude, thanks for the tapping pic's - what size drill bits and tap did you use? (M12 1.25 or 1.5?) cheers.

What you should use is:
11.8mm HSS Drill Bit (make sure it has the right tip so that you “scrape” rather then gouge!)
1/4" BSP with 19 TPI Tap

In my tutorial I’m not using any of the proper sized tools. The tap I have is 20 TPI which is why at the end I have to rethread it with a different fitting. The drill bit I use is very small compared to the 11.8mm HSS Drill Bit you should use but acrylic is very soft so the tap takes care of that.


What happen with performance-pcs? I was going to order some water cooling stuff from them.

Oh something about shipping me the wrong parts then telling me that I ordered the wrong parts. “…..you ordered the wrong size! That is not our fault!” this kind of statement just screams great customer service :rofl: HA HA:rofl:. All in all if you don’t have to deal with their customer service their alright but don’t bother if you do….

[ShArKo]

men.......that config its great..........jejejejejej I love it :D

[RockfordFosgate]

Tj10 and Tj09 not very good for watercooling :shrug::shrug:

[systemviper]

wOW, SWEET, I got to get me one of them,,,

[ben549]

Tj10 and Tj09 not very good for watercooling :shrug::shrug:

What?!?!? Scared of a challenge? :p:

[ben549]

UPDATES!!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2562329488_976165ba4e.jpg

The second pump and reservoir fit!!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2562316310_ee5a4e97b9.jpg


I think A.C. Ryan needs to work on his color swatches; the color is supposed to be red….looks pink to me.

[disruptfam]

yeah that fan defo looks pink! i was gonna get some of those 2.Lucky i didn't,i thought you had a d-tek fuzion ? maybe i was looking @ another worklog?

Fuzion v1 and v2 outperforms the gtx by a few degree's and would suit your build aesthetics a bit more imo. :)

look forward to more updates

[Hor$eman]

Tj10 and Tj09 not very good for watercooling :shrug::shrug:

Not a good case? There have been so many great WC builds with this case, it has influenced me so that this will be the first case I ever use for WC (Coming Soon).

[MINIz guy]

I like those red fans, even if they are pink. How do they perform?

[ben549]

yeah that fan defo looks pink! i was gonna get some of those 2.Lucky i didn't,i thought you had a d-tek fuzion ? maybe i was looking @ another worklog?

Fuzion v1 and v2 outperforms the gtx by a few degree's and would suit your build aesthetics a bit more imo. :)

look forward to more updates

Lol nope, I’ve always had the Apogee GTX. I cant really justify getting a d-tek fusion when I already have a GTX and the d-tek fusion’s barb orientation doesn’t fit with my tubing layout.


Not a good case? There have been so many great WC builds with this case, it has influenced me so that this will be the first case I ever use for WC (Coming Soon).

Send me a PM when you start your build; I don’t want to miss that!


I like those red fans, even if they are pink. How do they perform?

Are you referring to the A.C. Ryan 120mm Fans? They actually perform very well and I really like the fact that the fan and the LED’s have independent power connections. In my build I will be under-volting the fan for silence.

[Anti`]

Sweet build !

[ben549]

Sweet build !

Thanks! It’s always great to hear feedback!

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I need to add a locking systems to the case……anyone have any recommendations?

After staring at the case for a few hours I realized the most under utilized space is behind the front cover, and thus I must put something there.
A few of the ideas I’ve been toying with but I’m sure where to start:
-RFID Security/Automation
-A moving/sliding door

Here is a quick preview of some of the “toys” I’ve ordered:
5 x Serial ATA II Data Cable with latching mechanism 45cm (18") Straight to Left Angle - Black (SATA2-SL-BK-18)
2 x Serial ATA II Data Cable with latching mechanism 60cm (24") - Straight to Right Angle - UV Red (SATA2-UVR-SR-24)
1 x Ultra PC Vent II with 2 LED 45mm Fans PCI System Exhaust - Black (ULT30986)
2 x *** NEW *** Scythe "ITA KAZE" Slim Hard Disk Cooler (SCIT-1000)
1 x Evercool Cool Wheel Hard Drive Cooler HD-CW-SR - Black Cover. Red Fan (EC-HD-CW)
2 x *** NEW *** Lamptron ClearPuk - 7 LED Spread Lighting Module - Sleeved - Red (CLEARPUK-RD)
2 x Premium EL Wire : Red (ELWRED)
2 x EK Spare Reservoir Holders (Set of 2) (EK-RES-HOLDERS)
1 x Fan Screws - #4 X 3/8" Stainless Steel - Set of 4 (FAN-SCREWS4-38)
1 x Motherboard Quick Disconnect Cable 10-Pin - Sleeved (MOBO-QUICKDISC)
4 x Serial ATA II Data Cable with latching mechanism 45cm (18") - Straight to Right Angle - UV Red (SATA2-UVR-SR-18)
4 x 120 mm Fan Grill - Black (GRILL120BK)
1 x Logisys 2 AC Base Adaptor w/ Remote Control (RM202)
1 x Diamond Disk - Compare to Dremel 545 - Bulk (545)
25 x 18AWG Stranded Hook Up Wire UL Approved - Black (NTE-18AWG-BK)
1 x Conductx™ Molex Quad-Splitter, 5xUVLED, UVblue (ACR-CB4432)
2 x *** NEW *** Koolance Swiveling Angle Fitting (Low Profile), Single (NZL-LXG2)

[oerekum]

Looking good. I agree these cases are a challenge. I've been watercooling one for a whilen now and will also be rebuilding it soon.

Curious to see what all the led thingies are for in that order =D

[ben549]

Well this IS XS so once the performance side has been taken care of, then its time for the “Bling” and toys.

I will be writing/designing a program to allow an RFID Tag to hold logon passwords. Another project will set off an alarm if the computer goes out of range (say 10ft).

No one will be jacking my :banana::banana::banana::banana: in college!

Either way, there are lots of extras….I hope I don’t need a better PSU.

[MomijiTMO]

Nice! Keep up the good work.

[SaNxU]

Impresive work man;)

You're extremly carefull mods and they look very well;)

PD: wich fans are you using in corsair's airflow?

[ben549]

For now I have a few quick questions:

Does anyone have images of the thermal distribution on the bottom of a DDC pump?
How does one achieve a flattened area around a port on a circular reservoir? (Like the Ek Reservoirs)
Some of my koolance fittings have begun to chip; exposing the brass, is this cause for concern? Photos of this are on my flickr..
What are the two holes positioned closer to the center on the bottom of a DDC for?


My Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/


Impresive work man;)

You're extremly carefull mods and they look very well;)

PD: wich fans are you using in corsair's airflow?

You can basically use any 40 x 20mm fans….

I personally used ACE 40 x 20mm UV Glow Fan - Red (available here: www.performance-pcs.com)

[BlueAqua]

ben549, you have inspired me. Let me tell you, I had to get creative with the dremel. Worked out great though. Thanks for the inspiration!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_0478-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/IMG_0479.jpg

[ben549]

I’m finally able to post some updates. There was a mild storm and I lost cable access and it took Comcast two whole days to get it back up and running.

As requested by disruptfam all the shots were taken with the Nikon D300………like I would shoot them with anything else lol!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/

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[evil-98]

thats one massive build, alot of stuff going on and alot of $$$! nice shoots with the D300..

my D60 should be here next week.. damn slow shippers! :mad:

[pvtdonuts]

great build, what is the dual blower gonna be for? Also great mod for the DDC, how much of a diff does having a fan on there make though, I've heard it overheating but I'm not sure if I wanna cut up my xspc ddc stand. Ah if only they had a D60 in stock back when I was picking out my DSLR, I ended up with a XTi, cuz I hated the grip for the D40x, and got a EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS to go with it, not a bad lens, still waiting to save up enough to grab a EF 17-40mm f/4L Wide Angle.

[ben549]

thats one massive build, alot of stuff going on and alot of $$$! nice shoots with the D300..

my D60 should be here next week.. damn slow shippers! :mad:

I’m just one of those people that always has to be doing something….ALWAYS!!! Right now while I’m waiting for the 790i FTW or something else new I need stay occupied.

Evil, I hear your pain! I ordered my D300 through a Nikon accommodation and so I was forced to wait the standard 3-6 weeks………it was brutal! Who did you order you camera from? Have you shot with a VR before? ;)


great build, what is the dual blower gonna be for? Also great mod for the DDC, how much of a diff does having a fan on there make though, I've heard it overheating but I'm not sure if I wanna cut up my xspc ddc stand. Ah if only they had a D60 in stock back when I was picking out my DSLR, I ended up with a XTi, cuz I hated the grip for the D40x, and got a EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS to go with it, not a bad lens, still waiting to save up enough to grab a EF 17-40mm f/4L Wide Angle.

The blower will be attached to the mesh bottom of the case right under the HDD rack. The theory for this setup is that not only will it provide better airflow through the HDD rack but it will also move the air to the sides making the HDD fans and its self inaudible.

It’s funny because I got so inspired from seeing DB’s DDC Fan Mod that I had to make one of my own yet I’ve never even turned my DDC on. I just love to mod I guess.

As far as lenses go, the lens I’ve been shooting with is a 55mm F1.8 and as you can see its amazing especially when it only costs ~$140! If you’re looking for lenses, a fixed lens will almost always be sharper than a zoom lens. Also F4 is very slow; a faster lens would be much more versatile and personally I’ve had better luck with faster exposures; even my Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G VR Zoom Lens is a bit faster and having VR is like CHEATING! :D

[nsidious]

nice and clean work keep it up :up:

[disruptfam]

i <3 love that camera!!!

if only i could afford one!

nice update mate coming along nicely

[msgclb]

I assume that you're using the EnzoTech SLF-1 as you list it in the first message but I don't see it in your signature. Did you try to come up with a waterblock solution for the 780i SB before you installed the EnzoTech SLF-1? Do you think the EnzoTech SLF-1 is a better solution than the Evercool fan or don't know?

Are there compatibility issues using the EK-FC9800GX2 wateblock and either of the 780i NB or SB? I wish my system looked half as good as yours.

[evil-98]

Evil, I hear your pain! I ordered my D300 through a Nikon accommodation and so I was forced to wait the standard 3-6 weeks………it was brutal! Who did you order you camera from? Have you shot with a VR before? ;)


i ordered though amazon, the actually company name is 17th street photo
and i couldnt resist, price was too good $799 for the D60, AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR, and a AF-S DX VR Zoom-NIKKOR 55-200mm f/4-5.6G
plus 2 dvd for noobs :up:

the lens alone total to $189.95 + $229.95 = $420 and
depending on where you shop the body is around $550+
so i say fair deal :up:

now a comment on your build

as of now, its hard to visualize the build as a whole, but from what i see
im sure results will be stunning, do you have a full case shot in its current
state? everything looks so busy, but the D300 makes it look beautiful :p:

keep it up

cheers

[ben549]

i <3 love that camera!!!

if only i could afford one!

nice update mate coming along nicely

Yes, I quite enjoy it as well….lol


I assume that you're using the EnzoTech SLF-1 as you list it in the first message but I don't see it in your signature. Did you try to come up with a waterblock solution for the 780i SB before you installed the EnzoTech SLF-1? Do you think the EnzoTech SLF-1 is a better solution than the Evercool fan or don't know?

Are there compatibility issues using the EK-FC9800GX2 wateblock and either of the 780i NB or SB? I wish my system looked half as good as yours.

Actually I’m using the Evga Southbridge fan right now because my 9800GX2 interfered with the fan blades on the EnzoTech SLF-1. Please remember that I was the first to do the modification of using a waterblock on the 9800GX2 without completely removing the outer case. The issue with the mod is that to hold the two sides closed I used a zip tie which ends up being positioned over the southbridge on the 780i. Even now the zip tie pushes down on one side of the EVGA fan making it uneven; this is one of the issues still holding this builds completion back.

I would actually prefer a waterblock solution for the Southbridge as I have a separate loop just for motherboard cooling. This was one of my primary reasons for wanting the EVGA 780i FTW or the 790i FTW (watercooled versions). At this time I’m not aware of any southbridge waterblocks that clear the 9800GX2. If you’re aware of any, let me know!

I would definitely recommend the EnzoTech SLF-1 over the Evercool VC-RE for having better build quality and being more aesthetically pleasing. I can’t comment on performance as I haven’t done any testing with them but I would expect that the EnzoTech SLF-1would offer superior performance.

I’m going to make the following very clear so others will see this as well:
There are NO known issues with using a 9800GX2 with an EK Water block and using the EnzoTech SLF-1, EVGA 680i Southbridge Fan, or Evercool VC-RE on the 780i motherboards. Unless, a modification is done to the 9800GX2 that makes it stick out farther than the original outer case does. ex. My 9800GX2 Mod



i ordered though amazon, the actually company name is 17th street photo
and i couldnt resist, price was too good $799 for the D60, AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR, and a AF-S DX VR Zoom-NIKKOR 55-200mm f/4-5.6G
plus 2 dvd for noobs :up:

the lens alone total to $189.95 + $229.95 = $420 and
depending on where you shop the body is around $550+
so i say fair deal :up:

now a comment on your build

as of now, its hard to visualize the build as a whole, but from what i see
im sure results will be stunning, do you have a full case shot in its current
state? everything looks so busy, but the D300 makes it look beautiful :p:

keep it up

cheers

Wow, it sounds like you got a pretty slick deal. I remember back when I was first starting out with a D40x; I purchased the DVD’s as well and studied them closely! Lol! Good choice going with both VR lenses; like I always tell customers “It’s like CHEATING”! A friend and I were fooling around with my 18-200mm VR in my kitchen one night and we were able to get the shutter speed down to about a 1/5 or 1/2 of a second which amazed us of course!

I haven’t had much time to play with the D60 but I noticed right away that it was a significant improvement over the D40 and D40x….again Kudos!

The build is still in pieces and all my computer hardware which is currently on the dining room table (it’s been there since 11-07) has to be moved downstairs because the relatives will be coming over, so it may be a few days before any work can be done on this build.

The most recent pictures are posted on my flickr account as usual.
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I still have a few questions:
• Does anyone have images of the thermal distribution on the bottom of a DDC pump?

• How does one achieve a flattened area around a port on a circular reservoir? (Like the Ek Reservoirs)

• Some of my koolance fittings have begun to chip; exposing the brass, is this cause for concern? Photos of this are on my flickr..

• What are the two holes positioned closer to the center on the bottom of a DDC for?

• Does Bitspowers G1/4 Thread 1/2" ID x 5/8" OD Compression Fittings fit on a D-TEK FuZion v2 or are they too wide?

[disruptfam]

question is which should i get d40x d60 or d80?

[evil-98]

question is which should i get d40x d60 or d80?

if it was between the 40x and the 60, i would go 60

but between the 80 and the 60, thats depending on
new, used, etc. ive personally used the 80 and its won
me a few prices before so its a really nice camera :up:

its hard to say, since i havent used the 60, but i will soon
hopefully, i look up some hard evidence, might give you
some more insight

[ben549]

Coming from someone who has owned a D40x (same as the D40 but its 10.2mp) and currently owns a D80 and D300 I would recommend the D80 for you. It would help to know more about your photo/camera background so I can help you make the best choice. For example: have you owned a SLR before? Do you know what it takes to take a “good” picture? Is this a passion or hobby for you? How many pictures do you plan to take with said camera?


I still have a few questions:
• Does anyone have images of the thermal distribution on the bottom of a DDC pump?

• How does one achieve a flattened area around a port on a circular reservoir? (Like the Ek Reservoirs)

• Some of my koolance fittings have begun to chip; exposing the brass, is this cause for concern? Photos of this are on my flickr..

• What are the two holes positioned closer to the center on the bottom of a DDC for?

• Does Bitspowers G1/4 Thread 1/2" ID x 5/8" OD Compression Fittings fit on a D-TEK FuZion v2 or are they too wide?

[evil-98]

1. i would assume that its evenly distributed on the bottom around the center, the stator is perfectly center, and the impeller is dead center as well.

2. im not quite sure what your asking here, but im assuming your talking about the flat parts on the multiport bottom on an ek. all they do is mill it
with a square end mill i suppose

3. shouldnt be an issue, but thats some thin plating

4. im assuming those are breathing holes, they go all the way through and arent sealed or blocked by anything

5. probably not, koolance 3/8"ID compressions barely fit

[ben549]

Thanks evil! Lucky too, I was just about to order a Fuzion that night! Anyways, I’ve been doing some work fixing my 9800GX2 and making a label for every cable corresponding to where it will go so I can check lengths and whatnot…ha ha LABELS KEEP ME SANE ha ha…. Ill try to post some more assembled system updates soon. Pictures can be difficult when I have no room for proper lighting or even a background but ill see what I can do!

[systemviper]

No that is one sweet build, i should do the mod tomorrow and will see how it goes over the enzo
on the blitz.

[ppost]

Wow, excellent stuff here. :up:

FYI, EK has just released a new SB block for all thick GPU cards, so you may wanna watercool that as well. Check this out:

EK-SB VGA 790i (http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=277&osCsid=9a3d131ef7b9764a23caf8ba102d745b)

[ben549]

I couldn’t take it anymore so I designed my own Southbridge water block using an EK base and the new 780i Southbridge as a reference. I did however add a few of my own touches; one of which I’m particularly fond of its compatibility with Bitspowers compression fittings.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2610393418_02a331468d_o.jpg

Please note: The base is only for reference so I didn’t work on details.

[ben549]

Well I got a drill press for $15 and I took a stab at it. Here is the result:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2613063816_f7ba3b2522_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2613063816_f7ba3b2522_b.jpg

Looks pretty good to me! :D

[The[R]eaper]

nice job dude:up:

but how is it holding down with only one place to put a screw.

love the red lit acrylic

[msgclb]

Well I got a drill press for $15 and I took a stab at it. Here is the result:

...

Looks pretty good to me! :D

It sure looks pretty!:D Is it functional or do you still need to mill the block?

That is a good question. If I'm seeing correctly there is one mount screw. Will that be enough to have a good contact with the chip?

[ben549]

eaper;3092432']nice job dude:up:

but how is it holding down with only one place to put a screw.

love the red lit acrylic

You know I was skeptical too at first, but once I got it mounted with a spring between the acrylic and the motherboard and the 9800GX2 mounted I can tell it’s secure. The block sits perfectly flush and there is no clearance between the top of the block and the 9800GX2.


It sure looks pretty!:D Is it functional or do you still need to mill the block?

That is a good question. If I'm seeing correctly there is one mount screw. Will that be enough to have a good contact with the chip?

The block is completely finished; I’m reusing the base I already had. Ill post more views soon……after some sleep……..maybe….

[disruptfam]

looks good abit hard to see though

more pics :)

[evil-98]

whoa! you made your own top with a press? lol pics now!
looks good btw, especially now that it fits the compressions

[emoners]

nice setup & pics! :up:

[ben549]

My first time on a press and here’s the results:

Full Sizes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3212/2615215942_d5d7b7b1b5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2614388621_5423206ae6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2615219076_921edee17f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2615220648_7c019ce595_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2614393317_bb386aae6b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/2615223904_68b3f35a1c_b.jpg

I will be going back to polish and smooth the top in the future……..

[disruptfam]

you have skills!! :)

good work

[twwen2]

Nice work there ben! Good job on the acrylic:cool:

[ben549]

Sorry for making you wait for what is ultimately an uninspiring update but I’ve been so busy I haven’t even had time to turn on my TV! My absence has been largely due to the fact that I will no longer be double majoring in Animation and Visual effect as well as Industrial Design because my counselor thought the workload might be a bit much. It is because I will no longer be majoring in Industrial design and being a perfectionist trying to get by with a crappy workshop I’m going to settle and build my own damn CNC. It won’t be very large :D only 4x3 along its X and Y axis.

Other updates include selling my:

Intel Q6600
EVGA 780I
EVGA 8800GTX
Black Ice 240 Radiator
Other Miscellaneous water cooling gear


Current replacements:

Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Xtreme Performance Radiator
Koolance shroud and riser with more red leds and cathodes to match


Planned replacements:

Intel QX6850

SUPER TALENT Project X 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1800

Foxconn Dreadnought
or
ASUS Rampage Extreme (Top choice so far)
or
EVGA 790i FTW



I am closing in on the final stages of building my CNC and then I will be finishing my computer. I will try to continue to provide updates periodically.

Just a thought: what would my modded 9800GX2 sell for? (I’m considering replacing it with a QuadroFX or FireGL)

Oh yea: I'm also building a MICRO-ATX computer to run the CNC......

[MomijiTMO]

Hmm Rampage Extreme would be nice.

[ben549]

Hmm Rampage Extreme would be nice.


Lol yea it would; especially if I could make a Northbridge block to replace that annoying little red one. I am concerned about the ESA board in my case and its compatibility with the Rampage Extreme……. There’s also the matter of finding one in the US in the next week or so.

[BlueAqua]

How's this coming along?

[ben549]

QUICK UPDATE!!!

Already ordered:
Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor QX6850
Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Xtreme Performance Radiator
Koolance shroud and riser with two red cathodes to glow out the vents
Swiftech Apogee GTZ

Still to order:
EVGA 790i FTW
Bitspower 790i Northbridge and Southbridge waterblock

BEFORE I FORGET!!!!
A friend of mine bumped in to some guy who works for MNPC TECH……come to think of it, it might have been the owner/manager. Anyways, this friend of mine ended up telling him about my water block design and the guy said it was exactly what they were looking for! The conversation went on about production and whatnot and he even said he knew of a place I could get the parts made in state and that he would send this friend of mine some info. So I’m psyched….but running out of time.

[twwen2]

Good to see the project still alive and kicking! Now someone move it to the worklogs section ;).

Looking forward to seeing the new parts ben! :cool:

[RomDominance]

Nice work, should be a very nice rig when you finish. Your project is quite similar to my own with less customization on my part. Here is a link to some picts if you are interested. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3212257&postcount=32
:alien:

[Bobly]

Having the cover around the water block is pure sickness! :D

[evil-98]

an update sort of lol

your making a CNC?! thats awesome.

looking forward to a real update

[ben549]

Here is a quick picture of the CNC which is almost complete!

I will post more “real” updates once I make more progress on the computer itself…

[evil-98]

wow how much is that costing you? how many axises did you say it was?

[ben549]

The CNC is setup for 3 axes’ (XYZ). To give an idea of its scale; the bars along the X axis are 49”, the bars along the Y axis are 34.5”, and the bars along the Z axis are 12”. Build costs are still under $1000.

[evil-98]

The CNC is setup for 3 axes’ (XYZ). To give an idea of its scale; the bars along the X axis are 49”, the bars along the Y axis are 34.5”, and the bars along the Z axis are 12”. Build costs are still under $1000.

WHAT... under 1000? can i get additional info please :up:

[ben549]

Well as you can tell I’m the “do it yourself” kind of guy so I figured why not? The CNC is designed to handle wood, plastic, plexiglas, etcetera. It will even handle thin aluminum at slower speeds.

One of the first jobs for the CNC will be to make a LCD faceplate for the front of Koolance’s Riser.

Evil-98: If you’re interested in building your own I can send you some links. There are also options on eBay….


For those of you watching this thread thinking “why is this thread not in the Liquid cooling worklogs section”? I’ve asked multiple mods and received nothing so I’m still waiting…..

[PaRn ssR]

best of TJ10 for me

:up::up::up:

[Rise]

Well as you can tell I’m the “do it yourself” kind of guy so I figured why not? The CNC is designed to handle wood, plastic, plexiglas, etcetera. It will even handle thin aluminum at slower speeds.

One of the first jobs for the CNC will be to make a LCD faceplate for the front of Koolance’s Riser.

Evil-98: If you’re interested in building your own I can send you some links. There are also options on eBay….


For those of you watching this thread thinking “why is this thread not in the Liquid cooling worklogs section”? I’ve asked multiple mods and received nothing so I’m still waiting…..

Send me some links while you're at it please :D

[ben549]

Note:
Pictures were taken with a Nikon D300 and a Tamron 17-50mm F/2.8 lens (Pro Glass!!)
Link to the full size images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/

So I figured it was finally time to give you guys some updates!!!!!

“Custom CNC Mill” (Primary project)

Here are a few shots of the build as of this afternoon.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2766673056_9944d2e214_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2766673086_d1f7ed562e_b.jpg


I’ve received many questions and comments regarding the CNC so I will answer a few of the main questions.

Where can I get more information or the plans?
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12202&referrerid=104339
Beware: The plans do have some flaws!!! These issues are easily worked out however.

How did you go about making the parts for this?
• I stared by ordering parts from eBay, McMaster, Menards, Home Depot.
• I cut the 8020(metal bars) with a miter saw and tapped the holes.
• I drew each MDF (wood/particle type board) part in AutoCAD and had them printed at Kinko’s to scale.
• I used a glue stick to attach the blueprints to the MDF and cut them out with a circular saw and a drill press.
• Started assembling and here I am!!

Please note that these are over simplified instructions; I’m just too lazy to type out everything.

“P180 Mini” build for the CNC Mill (Secondary priority as it relies on the completion of the CNC Mill)

No pictures yet sorry.

I am in the process of hacking up the top of the case to install a piece of red acrylic in the place of the top fan. The purpose of this is to keep particles from the CNC from getting into the case.

“Black Silverstone TJ-10” Build (last priority due to parts availability)

I’m still waiting on the release of the EVGA 790i FTW and Bitspower’s 790i block. The EVGA 790i FTW is slated for this coming week according to Jacob.

The Intel QX6850!!!! I’m really exited to try this out but alas I have no motherboard!!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2766572376_ae33fd742e_b.jpg


I got my GTZ today and since there aren’t many pictures of it online I figured I would take some!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3284/2766572390_5944341d78_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3241/2766572416_958b4f6120_b.jpg

What is that wet spot in my box?!?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/2766572426_dfc9ca05a9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3147/2766572438_e1cf359680_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2766572444_9dc3b20736_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2765778179_41113762d5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/2765778197_903f1d5b17_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/2765778207_310e9af8d7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/2765778219_f6546abb2a_b.jpg


The new Feser 240 Radiator with Scythe fans.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2765778243_1a30d9e944_b.jpg

Koolances shroud and riser fit very well on top of the case, and looks cool too!
The custom panel for the LCD will screw onto the front of the riser.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2765778267_94929dd986_b.jpg



If you have any questions or comments please feel free to post them!

[evil-98]

had no idea you had a update, thanks for the cnc info :up: looking forward to some CNC action!

the GTZ is looking nice, ill have to get one soon just to add it to the collection of others..

shots are very nice btw

:up:

[Antioch]

Would you mind talking about how you painted the motherboard try, HDD cages, and whatever other goodies went from silver to black? I saw that you posted a picture of all the pain you used, but I'm not sure in what order you applied them. Just curious because I'll probably be building a similar rig for my Core i7 (Nehalem) when I get my hands on one :)

Thanks!

[ben549]

Major Update!

Note:
Pictures were taken with a Nikon D300 and a Tamron 17-50mm F/2.8 lens
Link to the full size images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/27341713@N03/

“Black Silverstone TJ-10” Build

I received my EVGA 790i FTW finally…

I was also able to find and order the ram I wanted.
Super Talent Project X D3-1800 4GB (2x2GB) Dual Channel Memory Kit
Mfr Part Number: W1800UX4GP
Capacity: 4 GB (2x 2GB)
Speed: PC14400 1800MHz CL 8-8-8-24

New fittings and tubing
Bitspower 1/2ID 3/4OD Compression Fittings

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3257/2791496867_0ba07c9f20_b.jpg


Since I’m using the Feser 240 radiator will it still be beneficial to use the black ice 120 radiator or will that hurt the loop (too restrictive)?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2792350198_3ca8bdf54c_b.jpg


Would you mind talking about how you painted the motherboard try, HDD cages, and whatever other goodies went from silver to black? I saw that you posted a picture of all the pain you used, but I'm not sure in what order you applied them. Just curious because I'll probably be building a similar rig for my Core i7 (Nehalem) when I get my hands on one :)

Thanks!

The order was:
1. Sand with 400 grit
2. Sand with 800 grit
3. Clean
4. Apply 1-2 coats of Self Etching Primer
5. Let dry
6. Apply 3-7 coats of either gloss or semi gloss paint.
7. Let dry FULLY


“Custom CNC Mill” Build
I’m in the process of converting select parts to metal.
Updates coming soon……

“P180 Mini” build for the CNC Mill
Basically done, just some wiring left.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/2792348840_48b20e9824_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/2792351298_8b9be3f819_b.jpg



On a side note
I’m moving to California in a few days and I need to bring my computer. Does anyone have any recommendations on how to ship my computer with having it be destroyed in the process?

[MomijiTMO]

Nice 790FTW there. :)

[mpower1001]

That GTZ looks awesome, is the bios on the FTW different from the ultra?

[BlueAqua]

Looks great Ben. I would keep the black ice in the loop, it won't restrict flow too much and will add some cooling. You're moving out of the great state of MN??? I would double box your case. Take off anything not completely secure and ship it separately.

[disruptfam]

nice ! back in business very good to see,defo one my fav projects going around.

Excellent shots !

[Antioch]

Yea, I moved to California from Maryland for college 5 years ago and I had to ship my PC as well. Luckily I kept the original packaging that the case came in.

It was your normal rectangular box with 2 styrofoam pieces for the front and rear end of the case as well as a bag for the case itself to go in. I packed it up like it had been delivered, but wrapped the mid-section of the case which wasn't covered by the styrofoam pieces in bubble wrap (Luckily we had a roll hiding in the basement).

I also took a bunch of brown paper bags from the grocery store, cut them so I could un-roll them and lay them flat. I taped them together, inside out, and used them to wrap the box to conceal that there was a PC inside.

I didn't pack anything inside the case. There were quite a few internals, though. 3 HDs, 3 Optical drives, a SCSI card, an IDE expansion card, a GeForce, and the waterblock for the CPU. I didn't have a problem with anything falling apart, but if you want to put some packaging in there be careful what you put. You don't want any plastics or anything that could possibly create static charge (packing peanuts, for example always get stuck to your arm because they have a lot of static).

Everything arrived to my college and was held in the package center for a day without problem. The only issue I had was when I tried to boot up the machine - it beeped an error code at me. The error code was that there was no graphics card attached. All I had to do was re-seat all of my expansion cards. I suppose they got rattled around in the truck...

Oh yeah, I sent it UPS (if that matters).

I hope that helps! Good luck, and keep up the good work.

[nsidious]

Ben is it necessary to use both the shroud and riser or do you think it can be done by only using the shroud?