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Giacomo
04-12-2008, 06:18 AM
Hello folks, I'm getting angry with my Mushkin Redline XP2-8000 (these ones (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174940)).

They will flawlessy OC to about 1066 MHz 5-5-5-12, but I'm not able to get them stable at 1080. 1080 MHz is just the result of a nice 450*8 on my Q6600, with a 333/800 strap; any other strap would bring them under 1000, scoring awful in the Everest bandwidth tests.

400*9 with the 400/1066 strap scores similarly awful... It seems like there's some FSB need, in addition to RAM speed, to achieve some decent over-9000MB/s read speed and some over-8000 write and copy.

450*8 would relax my CPU voltage (which I'd love, and 3600MHz would be just fine) and allow, with the 333/800 strap, some pretty decent bandwidth results. A good mix. But my Mushkins don't handle that :down:

I tried a lot of playing with about all memset timings, plus relaxing the extra options in my DFI BIOS, and tried VNB up to 1.6V. Nothing. (I pretend CAS5, didn't ever tried CAS6, but that would be ridicolous, and surely would pull down bandwidth results again).

Am I missing something, or is it normal, or do you have some other kit to suggest me?

I found, at a very good price (about 120 EUR), a PC2-6400 4-4-4-12 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer kit. Would that OC better than these Mushkin, on my DFI, in your opinion, or I'd better keep mine?

EDIT: I add just an another question: I would appreciate if you told me, in addition to comments on my RAM and those Tracers, what you'd choose between 450*8/1080 tRD8 and my 411*9/1028 tRD6, and why.

Thank you in advance,
Giacomo

Jaco
04-12-2008, 08:30 AM
try very loose TRFC , maybe that helps.

I would take 411x9 / 1028 / tRD6 i'm pretty sure that's faster

Giacomo
04-12-2008, 09:14 AM
Jaco;2914121']try very loose TRFC , maybe that helps.

I would take 411x9 / 1028 / tRD6 i'm pretty sure that's faster

I tried that one up to 70, too. It seems like it's very important on Powerchips. But it didn't change anything... Seems like over 52 makes no further difference.

About speed: my doubt is that, with 450FSB/1080RAM, I see huge and nice 9300/8200/8900 read/write/copy MB/s in Everest. With 411FSB/1028RAM, I get about 9000/7500/8200. Almost 10% loss in write and copy performance.

Don't know if it actually makes some difference, though.

Giacomo

qujck
04-13-2008, 03:52 AM
sorry but i had 2x2GB of OCI Infinity.
They did 1100MHZ@1,9V and 1000MHz@1,8V.
Timings were 5-5-5-18.

Giacomo
04-14-2008, 07:26 AM
sorry but i had 2x2GB of OCI Infinity.
They did 1100MHZ@1,9V and 1000MHz@1,8V.
Timings were 5-5-5-18.

Uhm, thank you. I've investigated a bit and maybe my two "favourites" are the following kits:


Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-6400 4-4-4-12 2x2GB
Geil Esoteria PC2-8500 5-5-5-12 2x2GB


They would be needed for some "over 1100MHz" job. Which kit do you think to be the best? Same price to me.

Thank you.
Giacomo