Another WaterFall Reservoir

[CyberDruid]

This will be the third one so far...

Kennymester ordered another waterfall reservoir.

Here's the pictorial.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4921/pict9016gy8.jpg
Using Ken's Sketchup drawing I made my cut list. When making something that needs 100% perfect alignment it is critical to make all the cuts of the same dimension with tghe same set for the saw at one time. This is also the most time efficient way to proceed.

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Everything comes out of these pairs of strips cut to 5-1/16" wide and 4-27/32" wide.

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Here are all the parts I will need.

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Before I can glue anmything up I need to tap a number of ports into the panels...Ken loves reservoirs with lots and lots of ports...this way if I screw up a port I can simply remake the panel form leftover material already cut to width.

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My tablesaw fence makes a handy 90 degree angle to work from for the first joint.

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Using a capillary appplicator I fuse each joint\ with water-thin solvent.

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It is imperative to have true 90 degree corners and perfectly straight and flat and perpendicular edges...each piece also has tgo be exactly the same width.

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It's pretty chilly today and the solvent is actually frosting up the needle on the applicator...

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I know it's going well when each part fits precisely...but it's one of those things where you can always screw up at the end...

Before I can seal up the reservoir I need to drill and tap the mounting holes and then place a trip of acrylic on the interior over the holes....

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Last piece in place. All the joints are fused...

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There are a number of small smudges and runs that get sanded and polished out...except for the ones in the interior ;) but once filled with liquid they will dissappear.

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And that's it for tonight. I will let it cure over night and then work on buffing it. Another Kennymester designed WaterFall reservoir.

:thumb:

[nullface]

Ypu have to explain the concept here, what does it do better than a regular res?

Or is it just fun to watch :D

[Big_Daddy]

Or is it just fun to watch :D

Nuff said

Great work, as always CD.

[systemviper]

Wow, the more I see the more respect i get for your talent,

major cudo;s

[Martinm210]

Awesome!
I'd like to try my hand at acrylic for some testing stuff.

Any suggestions on the table saw blade? It looks like that might be more of a 60 or 80 tooth bit, but hard to tell. I figured a higher number of teeth and a nice new blade helps, but I havn't cut much acrylic yet.

And what glue is that, where do you get it? I've only used silicones before, no idea what a better bonding glue though.

Thanks!
Martin

[iandh]

Very cool.


I hate working with acrylic so much.

So much.

[Kayin]

I'll be making my own thread in a day or so's time, and I plan to incorporate what you've shown here. Who knows, I might have a new twist for you.

As always, though, a fan of your work. I seriously think I wanna order my wife one of these...

[Eddie3dfx]

As martin stated, I'm curious to how you make the cuts.
I have a good 10" diablo trim blade that I use for sheet metal and other laminates.

[taylormsj]

So so good, is it restrictive?

[CyberDruid]

Ypu have to explain the concept here, what does it do better than a regular res?

Or is it just fun to watch :D
It's Kennymester's design...I think it's really better answered by him.


Awesome!
I'd like to try my hand at acrylic for some testing stuff.

Any suggestions on the table saw blade? It looks like that might be more of a 60 or 80 tooth bit, but hard to tell. I figured a higher number of teeth and a nice new blade helps, but I havn't cut much acrylic yet.

And what glue is that, where do you get it? I've only used silicones before, no idea what a better bonding glue though.

Thanks!
Martin
You can get the solvent/glue that melts/fuses the acrylic from TAP Plastics or US Plastics online. I prefer Weldwood Medium but can't find it...you will also want to get a hypo to draw the fluid from the container and a capillary applicator and few spare tips.

Although you may not find one at Lowes or w/e you can find specialty blades for plastic and aluminum (they are sort of interchangable).

What you want is a high tooth count (80) ATB (Alternating Tooth Bevel) or Triple Chip with a Zero or Negative Rake to the teeth. Thin blades tend to "walk" and leave tooth marks. A standard 1/8" wide tooth on a thick blade is ideal.




Kayin;2899582']I'll be making my own thread in a day or so's time, and I plan to incorporate what you've shown here. Who knows, I might have a new twist for you.

As always, though, a fan of your work. I seriously think I wanna order my wife one of these...
Give me a PM when you are ready ;)


As martin stated, I'm curious to how you make the cuts.
I have a good 10" diablo trim blade that I use for sheet metal and other laminates.
For this I used a Freud 80 tooth ATB with a Silver nonstick coating...but I am not happy with it. The 80 tooth DeWalt cut better and neither cuts as well as the Plastic/laminates/aluminum blade I have misplaced...


So so good, is it restrictive?
Well as with any reservoir the restriction is the 1/4 BSPP fitting :p:

No part of the interior is as restrictive as those ports

[Movieman]

What you want is a high tooth count (80) ATB (Alternating Tooth Bevel) or Triple Chip with a Zero or Negative Rake to the teeth. Thin blades tend to "walk" and leave tooth marks. A standard 1/8" wide tooth on a thick blade is ideal.
For this I used a Freud 80 tooth ATB with a Silver nonstick coating...but I am not happy with it. The 80 tooth DeWalt cut better and neither cuts as well as the Plastic/laminates/aluminum blade I have misplaced...


For the few times I've cut acrillic I've used a sears 200 tooth blade.
Designed for veneers it's a steel blade, no carbide teeth so it will dull quickly but you can resharpen.
Not having the carbide makes for a thinner cleaner cut..
Still got one of the 3 I bought back in 1990 for $9.99 each..:D

[Boogerlad]

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=176058#post176058
that guide does a pretty good job on how to glue acrylic.

[CyberDruid]

Water pictures are needed! :p

YouTube - Another CyberDruidPC Waterfall Reservoir (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEWudpKjrvo)

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[[XC] NetburstXE]

Awesome! I love the blue LEDs!

[yooN]

I wants one! Great job, CD!

[TheBlackWaltZ]

How much will one of these run me, and I would request one with green LED instead of blue, LOOKS NICE THO!

this is so what I originally wanted!

[Boogerlad]

i love it. Great job!

[Cptn Vortex]

Doesnt that aerate the water? allowing more air bubbles to circulate, not to mention airborne Particles and bacteria/algae formation?

It sure looks awesome though!!

[coolmiester]

Awesome job CyberDruid :up:

You know, it goes against everything that a res should be but in my book it is perfect and hats off to you fella for constructing such an off the wall piece of art.

I love it and i want one :)

[smee]

I love this!! Looks amazing! (as is all of your work! :up:)

Nice music in the vid BTW, :p:

How much would one of these cost?

[Swatrecon_]

Doesnt that aerate the water? allowing more air bubbles to circulate, not to mention airborne Particles and bacteria/algae formation?

It sure looks awesome though!!

yea, actually i think that will occur later on down the road.

[yooN]

CD, maybe you could put some plastic trees in there and make it a decoration too!

[lior307]

Great Work , Great Idea ,
I wanted to make a fontain in my computer but found out that
I don't have enough space for this (maybe i'll do it external) .

[Martinm210]

Awesome, thanks for the tips on the blade and glue, I'll look for that.


FYI, you could actually calculate the flow rate with that one, it's a nice simple wier calculation.

Here is an online calculator, just plug in the width of flow over that top wier along with the depth in centimeters and you'll have a flow rate. I think technically the wier should be vertical on the backside, but it would still be a good approximation.

http://www.pondrushes.net/metcalc/metstream.htm

There are probably some better calculators out there too, that was just a quick search.

[fart_plume]

CD a little trick I learned working with plastics at hospital equipment manufacturer is that if you apply beeswax (stick form) on the saw blade while its running, the wax will act as a lube and keep the plastic from sticking to it and it helps make a cleaner cut. Works for drilling and tapping plastics too.

[CyberDruid]

CD a little trick I learned working with plastics at hospital equipment manufacturer is that if you apply beeswax (stick form) on the saw blade while its running, the wax will act as a lube and keep the plastic from sticking to it and it helps make a cleaner cut. Works for drilling and tapping plastics too.

thanks

I use car wax (carnuba) for tapping...it makes a much cleaner thread...had not thought about waxing the saw though...

And thanks for all the positive responses. By the sound of it I will need to make some of these to sell on the FS thread. Sure would like a laser cutter ;)

Martin I love it when you talk technical to me :p:

The only weir I ever knew about until now was Bobby Weir :ROTF:

[fart_plume]

we had sticks of wax at that particular shop for cutting plastics and aluminum. It's available at most machine supply stores. I've even useda plain old white candle.

[CyberDruid]

I use a wax stick from tapmatic for cutting aluminum....the only way I could get 1/4" plate through the table saw :eek:

[fart_plume]

that will work great on plastics!

[CyberDruid]

Going to search for my real blade today. I have had about 10 requests for this style res....

[CyberDruid]

Just got off the phone with Virginia Industrial Plastics...talk about a wet dream...6 axis 5 axis and three axis routers, laser cutter and etching, vacuum forming of almost any kind of plastic.

And the owner is a VIR racing his motorcycle today :)

My kind of hook up. He was an instructor at Cornerspeed.net and we talked about getting me going on some trackdays...

So what I am going to do is make up some drawings and cut up the parts and label them and drive over to Elkton and talk with them in person and get a quote so I can see if this is feasible.

I'll design it so the height is easy to change and the internal parts are all the same dimensions and make up sets for 2, 3 and 4 bay units.

More on this as I progress.:up:

[Sam__]

i love that res... im not surprised ur getting requests lol.

[CyberDruid]

I wish I had CAD still...

[sbinh]

Cool man .. It looks awesome ...

It would look EXTREMELY good if there is a watermill spinning around :D :D .....

[CyberDruid]

Next one is going to have a cherub pissing on a CPU...

[peebee]

Hey CD,

That Res looks awesome :top:
Great idea.

regards

pb

[Kayin]

I'm sure I could cast that cherub.

Boy or girl, CD?

[DarthBeavis]

Cyber you want to help me design a res?

[CyberDruid]

Kayin;2906222']I'm sure I could cast that cherub.

Boy or girl, CD? Oh Wow:eek: I never even thought about a girl pisser...hmmmm


Cyber you want to help me design a res?
Hell yeah.

[Pedalmonkey]

Cyber, you need to just start buying all these fancy toys and start making some money :P!! but i would be into the pisser res. with an LED lighting up the stream if thats possible.

[mike8913]

CD looks awesome, definitely cool. But like some one said before: I think you could use a half crescent or something in the base to cut down on air bubbles.

[Martinm210]

Oh Wow:eek: I never even thought about a girl pisser...hmmmm


Hell yeah.

That's awesome, can I get a Dodge Calvin pissing on Ford. That would make a great Christmas present for a friend of mine (Ford owner)..:rofl:

[SafeFire]

Amazing work cyber, I never thought I'd say this, but you just made acrylic look sexy :up:

I've got a few questions though.

First off, does this res oxygenate (de-bleed?) the water?

What are the dimensions of it? It looks like it fits into 3-4 5.75" bays, if not, would it be possible to construct one that would? (Would make it even sexier).

Would it be possible to divide it into 3 separate sections, by employing horizontal walls. For people who run three loops.
I'll try making a cad drawing of it when I get home (sitting in tech.hist class), to better explain the idea.

And finally, what would it cost to have you make one for me? (It's so sexy, I must have one!).

Keep up the good work druid, you could start easily get a contract with some shops if you intend to produce more of these!

[fart_plume]

You got a pm Cyber...........

[stormshadow]

friggin love it.

removing air out of a loop looks like it would be a non-issue with that thing.

how bout a double bay design? possible to get a waterfall effect using only the height of two bays??

[Nate P.]

how bout a double bay design? possible to get a waterfall effect using only the height of two bays??
I'm looking at my dual bay res right now, looks like there is enough room for a waterfall. Lets see it happen CD!

[CyberDruid]

Cyber, you need to just start buying all these fancy toys and start making some money :P!! but i would be into the pisser res. with an LED lighting up the stream if thats possible.

I was joking...but ya know with some polycast and a mold I could make a cherub with a glowing twat/pee pee :yepp: :p: Incoroprating an LED inside the res is a pretty interesting idea.


CD looks awesome, definitely cool. But like some one said before: I think you could use a half crescent or something in the base to cut down on air bubbles.

The first one I made (4-bay_) was too aggressive and the ports located too high in the first weir (thanks for the new vocab Martin) so the entry stream was turbulent and "jumped" over the first lip. This design the water simply rolls over the lip...no turbulence really.


That's awesome, can I get a Dodge Calvin pissing on Ford. That would make a great Christmas present for a friend of mine (Ford owner)..:rofl:
If I can find a little Calvin to make a mold from you're on.


Amazing work cyber, I never thought I'd say this, but you just made acrylic look sexy :up:

I've got a few questions though.

First off, does this res oxygenate (de-bleed?) the water?

What are the dimensions of it? It looks like it fits into 3-4 5.75" bays, if not, would it be possible to construct one that would? (Would make it even sexier).

Would it be possible to divide it into 3 separate sections, by employing horizontal walls. For people who run three loops.
I'll try making a cad drawing of it when I get home (sitting in tech.hist class), to better explain the idea.

And finally, what would it cost to have you make one for me? (It's so sexy, I must have one!).

Keep up the good work druid, you could start easily get a contract with some shops if you intend to produce more of these!

It is made to fit three bays.

I ranm it for several hours and within the first couple of minutes the loop de-aerated fine.

I have contracted with an Industrial Plastics shop to make these in 3-bay and then 2-bay versions in lots of about 12 per run. If the sales are as impressive as all the reponses I might finally make some money doing this stuff :p:

When I have assembled tested units in hand I will post them here on the FS.


You got a pm Cyber...........

You da MAN!!!


friggin love it.

removing air out of a loop looks like it would be a non-issue with that thing.

how bout a double bay design? possible to get a waterfall effect using only the height of two bays??


I'm looking at my dual bay res right now, looks like there is enough room for a waterfall. Lets see it happen CD!

I made up the construction drawings for that and it should work: but only room for a single weir

can you tell Cyber jest lerned him a new werd?

I am enjoying this immensely.

[Vargher Warg]

Really cool and beautiful Res!

Just a crazy question - is it quiet?

[CyberDruid]

Yep pretty quiet...it makes a little noise..but from the vids you can tell it's not like Rosie O' Donnel taking a wizzz

[Waterlogged]

Yep pretty quiet...it makes a little noise..but from the vids you can tell it's not like Rosie O' Donnel taking a wizzz

I thought she stood up to do that?

[CyberDruid]

Pics or it didn't happen

:eek:
NVM

[XS_RoB]

Off Topic######

I just have to say - after seeing it over and over.....

Cyber - I love the Avatar! :rofl:

It kinda grows on ya..... specially after seeing pics of ya in some of your builds! (Over on Overclock forums) Great Effects on it! I actually though that it was pretty similar to ya! :shocked: in a Dolph Lundgren (http://www.totalrocky.com/multimedia/wallpaper/drago_1024.jpg) " I must Break You" kinda way!

Anyway - Love your builds! You have M@D SkiLLz! :D

[CyberDruid]

Thanks. The order has been started by the Plastics shop and now I guess it's up to their schedule but I would hope to have the reservoirs in hand by the end of the week.

[fart_plume]

Yep pretty quiet...it makes a little noise..but from the vids you can tell it's not like Rosie O' Donnel taking a wizzz

So your saying it's like Julia Roberts farting?


Pretty and silent...................:rofl:

[CyberDruid]

I'll be sure to load yours with febreeze...

[bluc]

quick question how much fluid does this res hold looking at building one for my current case build

[Origin_Unknown]

AMAZING!! all you need is some fish in there now :D

[Tallpaul]

wow nice one love it :D nice work bud keep it up :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:

[CyberDruid]

lol

well I got the call from the Plastics shop and I will be assembling reservoirs this evening. Look for a fresh thread tonight.

[LinusTech]

How would you clean these? I have Thermochill gunk built-up on my MCRES-MICRO, and it made me wonder how anyone even cleans these stupid things out...

[Liquid.]

the first thing i said when i saw this was wtf, then i saw the pics of action then i was like O M G, I wanna try my hand at one of these, how tall wide and length cyberdruid?

[voigts]

What I want to know is how exactly you go about buffing them. I've had a hard time with this on stuff I've made, especially when it comes to getting out minor scratches.

[disruptfam]

sorry if i missed it but what to did you use to cut the material?

[CyberDruid]

How would you clean these? I have Thermochill gunk built-up on my MCRES-MICRO, and it made me wonder how anyone even cleans these stupid things out...

White vinegar


the first thing i said when i saw this was wtf, then i saw the pics of action then i was like O M G, I wanna try my hand at one of these, how tall wide and length cyberdruid?
Width of a DVD burner and three burners high (fills three optical bay slots)


What I want to know is how exactly you go about buffing them. I've had a hard time with this on stuff I've made, especially when it comes to getting out minor scratches.
A firm sewn cotton wheel doubled up and white rouge. Follow by Novus 2 and Novus 3.


sorry if i missed it but what to did you use to cut the material?

This prototype was cut with a table saw and each part was handsanded using a jig to keep them perpendicular.

I just realized the Plastics shop is a 5 1/2 hour round trip and I don't have the time. So the parts are being shipped today.

[royalmarine]

what did it cost in terms of materials? and man hour's?

if they are going on sale would you do custom order's?

[Liquid.]

Hmmm, Usually when i cut plexi or perspex i use a jigsaw with a 15 tooth per inch blade and its fine if i cut it on lower speeds.

[iandh]

I use a wax stick from tapmatic for cutting aluminum....the only way I could get 1/4" plate through the table saw :eek:

Ummm, 1/4" Aluminum plate through a table saw!?!?!

That's hardcore. :clap:



Also, I'm not a very big fan of bay res's, and I about 50% liked your first waterfall res. This one I like 100%. I think it is the only bay res I have ever considered purchasing TBH.

[CyberDruid]

Yep I had to make a dash panel for an Azimut (yacht) to the owner's spec: 1/4" aluiminum with carpathian elm burl veneer over that It was in three sections and total length was somehwere around 11 feet assembled.

Not only was I cutting the plate to my scribe marks on the table saw..the scribes were long arcs :D. Cutting long curves in 1/4" plate is pretty hairy.

Then all the work to get the instruments cut in. Then the drilling and tapping to the structural beams I cut to fit beneath the dash...

Not to mention the magic required to apply burl veneer to aluminum...heh

Fun times...

Still got all my fingers too.

[CyberDruid]

32 pounds of lasercut parts just arrived.

gonna be huffing some glue tonight...:yepp:

[Liquid.]

Oh sweet, I was thinking you could make a smaller version to match my case?

Measurements are L - 450mm x H - 450mm x D 65mm.

L-length H-height D-depth, But you already knew that :)

Would it be possible if you could pm me some specs so i can make my own?

Thanks, BTW Great idea i reckon the waterfall resevoir looks great man keep up the really creative work!

[fart_plume]

Cyber you get a chance to test the package I sent you yet? Just want to make sure it's working for you.

[CyberDruid]

Naw not yet my friend. And I have not even opened the lasercut package...been doing other crazy stuff. But soon!

[fart_plume]

Yeah I've seen your triple radiator project looks impressive...........

[fart_plume]

The only reason i keep asking is with the luck I've had lately, I just want to make sure it works right,lol. just a little paranoia ya know.............

[CyberDruid]

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you....^^

I am keen to get that rolling. It's just been a week for maintenance and then I got this wild hair to start the cooler...it's still sitting there hogging the bench...so I will put it aside and move on to the reservoir assembly.

I got a real camera that takes movies longer than 30 seconds and with a much higher resolution so I'll see if I can make a quick acrylic fusing tutorial..nothing much to it...but it might be interesting to know exactly how it's done.

[fart_plume]

Oh, great so they are out to get me..............better ammo up then ...........
Where are those beans and raisins?

[[XC] NetburstXE]

Just because you are not paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you....^^

I am keen to get that rolling. It's just been a week for maintenance and then I got this wild hair to start the cooler...it's still sitting there hogging the bench...so I will put it aside and move on to the reservoir assembly.

I got a real camera that takes movies longer than 30 seconds and with a much higher resolution so I'll see if I can make a quick acrylic fusing tutorial..nothing much to it...but it might be interesting to know exactly how it's done.

I'd be interested in an acrylic fusing tutorial.

[CyberDruid]

You got it. I'll dig out the tripod.

[fart_plume]

Tripod for which the the guns or the camera?

[CyberDruid]

AR gets the Bipod; Nikon gets the tripod

[fart_plume]

OH, OK just thought I'd better get a clarification there,lol:up:

[Crankyhobo]

I'd be interested in an acrylic fusing tutorial.

I too would like to see it.

I have been thinking about making a custom res maybe a large (3-5" ID) plexiglass tube as the base just need to figure out a way to plug the ends and put fittings on.

http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/Plexiglass_Acrylic_Tube

[DarthBeavis]

I have 18 extra feet of this
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6914/dsc00350ts1.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00350ts1.jpg)http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7784/dsc00349tj6.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00349tj6.jpg)http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9931/dsc00348hv6.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00348hv6.jpg)

4" OD, 3.75" ID . . .though it costs $15/foot

[Kennymester]

Here's how the last one turned out.

http://www.kennymester.com/chemx480%20163.jpg

http://www.kennymester.com/chemx480%20164.jpg

http://www.kennymester.com/chemx480%20167.jpg

[Pedalmonkey]

looks good.

[Jimmer411]

It would be interesting to see one of these that extended down the front of a Stacker 810 or similar multi bay case.maybe had a 3x5 1/4 chute that the water falls and then pools into a section at the bottom where the pump inlet is located. Use CCFL to light it from behind possibly.

[CyberDruid]

The possibililties are endless really. I am going to make some for side panel windows...

[fusionmkx]

Possible to have a acrylic-cutting/gluing tutorial? Really love your work man! =)

[CyberDruid]

I sorta kinda have some vids on that in YouTube (CyberDruidtheModGod) but I havce not taken the time to do a step by step cosumentary.

I did make a vid the other night while gluing up more reserrvoirs but Youtube wouldn't upload it...kept timing out.

I will see what I can do.

[SafeFire]

BUMP.

Just looking through the worklog again, I can't stop drooling at the pictures of it with water.
Anyway, how thick is the acrylic? I'm sitting here drawing one up in 3d myself, completely out of boredom, and I'd like to be able to do draw it with Acrylic thickness included.
The point of the story is to attempt a model divided up into three vertical chambers, see how that turns out, if anything in 3d :p: