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OBR
03-03-2008, 05:50 AM
I have first mobo with this chipset at home, but i am waiting for Nvidias permission for publish informations ...

http://i32.tinypic.com/11b10mf.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/kd6d5y.jpg

When i will have it, will post many photos and results ...

webwilli
03-03-2008, 06:11 AM
can´t wait for results :D

tet5uo
03-03-2008, 06:19 AM
Stupid NDA!

OBR
03-03-2008, 10:06 PM
NDA lifts 18.3 ...:mad:

webwilli
03-03-2008, 11:05 PM
no teaser for us?? ;)

systemviper
03-03-2008, 11:35 PM
:poke:

Anemone
03-04-2008, 04:50 AM
Make sure you give us the 790 vs X38/X48 opinion as well :) when you can...

dinos22
03-04-2008, 05:06 AM
lol what's the point in creating the thread if you cannot give out any info about it till the 18th :rolleyes:

Leeghoofd
03-04-2008, 06:06 AM
OBR is a tease !!

icon57
03-04-2008, 06:23 AM
cool...hope it is released to the masses soon..so i can step-up with evga

OBR
03-04-2008, 07:53 AM
when i start this thread, i did not know about that date of launch ... but Nvidia gave me clear warning :slapass: ... NOTHING before 18.3 .... :(

PS. but i am selling my Maximus Extreme now, i love that Striker Extreme mobo! nForce + DDR3 + SLI is great!

webwilli
03-04-2008, 08:14 AM
PS. but i am selling my Maximus Extreme now, i love that Striker Extreme mobo! nForce + DDR3 + SLI is great!

you have Striker II Extreme?

can you tell a little about the board temperature?

i have a P5E3 Deluxe and will change to 790i & SLI.
Is it really great? :rolleyes:

crash5s
03-04-2008, 08:35 AM
you have Striker II Extreme?

can you tell a little about the board temperature?

i have a P5E3 Deluxe and will change to 790i & SLI.
Is it really great? :rolleyes:

Let's hope it's less problematic then the Striker Extreme. I'm interested to see if it's integrated WC is any good, or if it's just like the other fuzion systems.

dinos22
03-05-2008, 05:07 PM
i love that Striker Extreme mobo! nForce + DDR3 + SLI is great!

i love my reference board too :D

here are a few tests you can check out

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179484

pmp
03-06-2008, 12:31 PM
Rise of the evil continues.

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Atomic bomb home kit. Let's start with this. Should be enough for it's circuitrity ;-)
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Some perfect - damage your RAM/CPU - platform for us :ROTF:

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P.S.
Hoo cares about NDA ;]

loonym
03-06-2008, 01:42 PM
Nice pics, but what's up with the 70c cpu in hw monitor? Do you have photos of the memory timings section of that bios as well?

pmp
03-06-2008, 01:59 PM
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1329/dscn4165fe4.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4165fe4.jpg)http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2251/dscn4166wh7.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn4166wh7.jpg)

Memory settings - comparing to X48 boards, there are no memory settings :D
CPU temp. readings are okay. See, my CPU is kinda hot, especially when cooled by not fastened at all Intel stock fan.

icon57
03-06-2008, 05:11 PM
i must have missed that memo....lolz

safan80
03-06-2008, 06:19 PM
People still having faith on nFarce chipsets?

I thought everyone got the memo.

with the 9800 GTX and GX2 coming out a lot of people have been thinking more about SLIing older cards myself included.

BenchZowner
03-06-2008, 06:21 PM
People still having faith on nFarce chipsets?

I thought everyone got the memo.

The nF790i is looking really good at the moment.
I'm not getting that excited before I test one out myself... but it's looking definitely better than their previous attempts at it.

doompc
03-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Is the 790i a "red hot chilly pepper" like the 680i or not that much ?

Anemone
03-06-2008, 06:41 PM
And for all prior NV chipsets we had a subset of XS that was all gung ho until they used them for a while then most switched over to Intel...

[XC] NetburstXE
03-06-2008, 06:47 PM
Is the only difference between the 780i chipset and the 790i chipset other than the latter uses DDR3 and first uses DDR2?

humeyboy
03-06-2008, 06:52 PM
No, New Chipsets and no Bridge Chip needed and about 100+FSB more than my 780I did before RMA'ing the POS.

Some peeps above have very short Memories, when Intel Chipsets sucked and Nvidia NF2/3/4 were OC'ing like mad on AMD CPU's

BenchZowner
03-06-2008, 07:13 PM
And for all prior NV chipsets we had a subset of XS that was all gung ho until they used them for a while then most switched over to Intel...

Like humeboy said, it's a totally new chipset.

sonofander
03-06-2008, 07:41 PM
can we get a hard launch on the 18th?

dinos22
03-06-2008, 07:53 PM
there are a lot of similarities to old but it is a new chipset
i am happy with it but hey you know how it is
some ppl will be unhappy that are a little harder to please and some ppl won't :shrug:

i also liked 680i though for the most part.........they were a bit of a pain in the arse to tweak once you sort of start reaching the limits of your OCs and felt spotty at times.........new board feels far better for me at least :) :yepp:

they will need to stand the test of time
won't be long before you guys get to buy them and see for yourself heh :)

what you see with my OCs is not just "select the OC button" and all is great....it does take a bit of practice to get to benchmark any board at 600+ FSB at 5.7GHz on LN2 i tell ya that much heh

the way i see it is nvidia had to make a jump from amazing AMD chipsets and boards onto intel because of Conroe and with every chipset revision they are improving a lot. They are listening to enthusiasts through feedback some of us give them direct in terms of what can be done better on the boards plus their interaction with end users as well. i've met a lot of nvidia execs and i have to tell you these guys are extremely laid back and are actually really interested in this stuff. I am not kidding :yepp: ;). It's great to see them excited about all this stuff. It's really cool to see some of them even look into getting phase change for they home machines :D . i mean common now how many penguin suit guys do you know that are like that.......Geeks rule!!! :D

non
03-07-2008, 01:15 AM
Are nvidia still separating 2 pcie calculation in SLI on NB & SB in 790i? or they finally went to a single NB to handle 2 pcie? the SB just handling a 3rd pcie and HD perhaps?

pmp
03-07-2008, 06:21 AM
Although nF790i SLI Ultra is known to officially support 1800 MHz RAM sticks, i was not able to load OS when 1:2, FSB450 :(

So for now, just minor results for comparison with X38/X48 driven boards.
Performance is not very amazing, is it ?

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1003/1600888nm7.th.png (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1600888nm7.png)http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4937/1600777wn1.th.png (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1600777wn1.png)http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6573/1600666oe8.th.png (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1600666oe8.png)

What's very nice is that NB is not such hot as nF680i/nF780i based boards, but SB - it's still is :(
Since BIOS probably has a lot to do RAM driving, it's IMO too early to judge whether nF790i SLI Ultra sucks or not.

EDIT:
10:4 performance rocks :lol:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9146/2000dp6.th.png (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2000dp6.png)http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/535/20001nq0.th.png (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20001nq0.png)

NB voltage still at stock/Auto (1.30V IIRC).

OBR
03-08-2008, 07:28 AM
please post your settings i cannot to reach any higher FSB then 1350MHz!

pmp
03-08-2008, 01:55 PM
Hmm i really did nothing to go with QX9770 at it stock FSB. Also for RAM@1000 MHz i did nothing with VNB.

dinos22
03-08-2008, 02:09 PM
if you are having trouble clocking RAM use dual channel slots further away from CPU

they clock RAM much better

my NB was on auto past 1GHz on RAM with only 1.96v 8-7-6-20 1T easy

dinos22
03-08-2008, 02:10 PM
please post your settings i cannot to reach any higher FSB then 1350MHz!

that's very low for quad or dual

you need to try harder mate
just straight boot to 400+

reference board is not finicky at all like that :shrug: > at least not with dual cores

OBR
03-09-2008, 12:13 AM
I am now on 1450MHz FSB with Quad, but any higher no post/no boot ...

I tryed Two various memories, in Blue or White slots and the same situation ... i tested many voltage settings but no success at all ...

pmp - look at your voltages with FSB 1600 and post them ... i will try them ...

EDIT: with Dual Core E8400 i am now at 1900MHz! FSB! An super stable ...but frequencies above 1900 = crash a Blue screens ... It seems 1900MHz (475MHz) is max for duals now ... but with Quad still no success with OC ...

http://i31.tinypic.com/vhuvrk.png

Best mem performance above 11 000 MB/s is at FSB 1600 mems 1800 unlinked ...

OBR
03-10-2008, 09:48 AM
I love that mobo so much! 550MHz with no problem (with new 504 BIOS) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NB is pretty cold and unlinked/linked for DDR3 works like a charm! Best mobo i had ... in retail will be on end of this month ... in my country will cost 470 USD!

http://i25.tinypic.com/2hyjwpv.png

http://i27.tinypic.com/2m7izqb.png

Leeghoofd
03-10-2008, 10:43 AM
Hard launch tomorrow ? I read on the 11th of March for 790i... did quad performance also improve OBR with 0504 bios ?

Brother Esau
03-10-2008, 11:46 AM
The nF790i is looking really good at the moment.
I'm not getting that excited before I test one out myself... but it's looking definitely better than their previous attempts at it.


Dude whats up with that Picture??:rofl: thats either one hell of a Pimple or somebody remodeled you're Face with their fist:slap: :owned:

Leeghoofd
03-10-2008, 12:18 PM
Bill had some words with his Phase change rig... thought it was a basketball accident...

JohnMike
03-10-2008, 12:41 PM
I love that mobo so much! 550MHz with no problem (with new 504 BIOS) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NB is pretty cold and unlinked/linked for DDR3 works like a charm! Best mobo i had ... in retail will be on end of this month ... in my country will cost 470 USD!

http://i25.tinypic.com/2hyjwpv.png

http://i27.tinypic.com/2m7izqb.png

But that bandwith is very poor... compared to X38 boards.

Did you tried the best bandwith spot with that board?!

Leeghoofd
03-10-2008, 01:07 PM
But that bandwith is very poor... compared to X38 boards.

Did you tried the best bandwith spot with that board?!

Look at his ram timings man, he was on a quest for max FSB, slackening ram timings big time 8-12-12-34 CR2, think OBR doesn't have good ram kit... and if 790i is anything liek 780i or 680i you pay big time for high FSb in the ram department...

talkign about DDR3 ram which one is a good clocker in the medium price range ? I heard good stuff about Corsairs clocking to almost 2000mhz...

bellinghamwa
03-10-2008, 01:57 PM
OBR,

If you were going to run just one card (e.g. 9800GTX Ultra) would you prefer the 790i or the Asus P5E3 Premium?

johnp1983
03-10-2008, 02:42 PM
I'm hoping this mobo will not had any CPU-INIT bug like Striker Extreme or Striker 2 Formula... :rolleyes:

TheGoat Eater
03-10-2008, 02:45 PM
thought it was a basketball accident...

yeah I think I read that it was basketball too... can't wait to get my hands on one of these boards as it is going to be awesome from the little info we have so far

OBR
03-10-2008, 09:55 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/2vmu7et.png

http://i27.tinypic.com/30jk7m0.png

Best MEMs performance is with FSB till 400MHz, with higher FSB performance is rapidly lower. It is like on nF680i ...

With first BIOS 0405 i reach only 470MHz for Dual and 350! MHz for Quad ... now with BIOS 0504 i am at 550MHz with Dual and 470MHz with Quad ...

Launch is 18/3 ...

Leeghoofd
03-11-2008, 02:41 AM
OBR can you plz show us 9 x 400 ram at 1600 and 8 x 450 ram at 1600 (so keep CPU at 3.6ghz), that's easier to compare..., and if you have the time ram at 1800 too...
But like I saw with the 780i things haven't changed much :) unlike Intel chipsets Nvidia ones have more benefit when using tighter latencies...

slim142
03-11-2008, 07:01 AM
OBR, I knew that the chipset would have same problem as 680i. Higher FSB=lower scores. One problem why lowering the multiplier on NF motherboards suck.I think I will stick to 400mhz FSB x9.

I wanted to ask you. Are you sure the board will come out on the 18th? I heard official 790i release was today.
Also, any info about the motherboard Pinot Noir? Will it be x48 or 790i? (please tell me there is a chance it will be 790i because that board rules)

BenchZowner
03-11-2008, 07:08 AM
OBR, I knew that the chipset would have same problem as 680i. Higher FSB=lower scores. One problem why lowering the multiplier on NF motherboards suck.I think I will stick to 400mhz FSB x9.

I wanted to ask you. Are you sure the board will come out on the 18th? I heard official 790i release was today.
Also, any info about the motherboard Pinot Noir? Will it be x48 or 790i? (please tell me there is a chance it will be 790i because that board rules)

Pinot Noir is X48 AFAIR.

slim142
03-11-2008, 08:22 AM
Pinot Noir is X48 AFAIR.

Dont say that :( ! Now that I have looked at the Pinot Noir, I like it more than the Striker II Extreme :P but if Striker II Extreme is the only ROG w/ 790i, then I guess I have no other option.

But seriously that Pinot Noir board is the nicest board I have seen in a long time.

BenchZowner
03-11-2008, 08:24 AM
Watch out, because... nice on the outside, doesn't necessarily mean nice on the inside ;)

OBR
03-11-2008, 10:03 AM
official launch is the same day like GF 9800 GX2 ... 18/3/2008

slim142
03-11-2008, 10:13 AM
Watch out, because... nice on the outside, doesn't necessarily mean nice on the inside ;)

You are right, but Im not the kind of person that mods mobos to use LN2 on them :)

As long as it gives me a decent OC and is not problematic with RAM Im ok :)

EDIT: BTW, I just read in another Pinot Noir topic that this board says ROG CONCEPT on top so there is a little chance that it might never go retail????? :S

FELIX
03-13-2008, 08:21 AM
I add support for 790i in this version: MemSet35beta.exe (http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet35beta.exe)

Eventually, report me bugs... :)

funkflix
03-15-2008, 12:43 AM
Asus Striker II Extreme aviable now in most german shops, but > 300€ for a motherboard is crazy.. :hitself:

Let's wait and see if price drops and the retail ones will clock as good as all the samples we see around here on xs.

Which other manufactures announced a 790i board? Can only find the Asus at the moment.

webwilli
03-15-2008, 11:02 AM
one Asus Striker II Extreme is ordered.

my first nvidia-board ever. i hope it works well.

slim142
03-15-2008, 02:51 PM
Where did you guys ordered from?

Hyperhorn
03-15-2008, 02:58 PM
@slim142: available @ three German shops: http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/a311092.html
But I guess no shipping to the US...

cognoscenti
03-15-2008, 03:31 PM
and normal release day is tuesday...will you have yours by then?

Lu(ky
03-15-2008, 03:46 PM
slim142 newegg should have them in stock by 03-18-08 so will clubit.. I hope to get mine from the egg since I only live 10 minutes away. ups ground next day at my door.. :)

cognoscenti are you getting one of these boards?

slim142
03-16-2008, 09:15 AM
I might be getting one of these. What bothers me is that the board Pinot Noir looks so nice but no info about it ANYwhere.

Guess Ill go Striker II

Lu(ky
03-16-2008, 07:33 PM
Look at his ram timings man, he was on a quest for max FSB, slackening ram timings big time 8-12-12-34 CR2, think OBR doesn't have good ram kit... and if 790i is anything liek 780i or 680i you pay big time for high FSb in the ram department...

talkign about DDR3 ram which one is a good clocker in the medium price range ? I heard good stuff about Corsairs clocking to almost 2000mhz...

I am wondering what my Crucial sticks will do with this board when it comes out on Tuesday here is California...

S O U R C E (http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/11/high_end_ddr3_memory_on_the_hook/index.html)

http://images.tomshardware.com/2008/01/11/high_end_ddr3_memory_on_the_hook/overclocking_results.gif

TheGoat Eater
03-16-2008, 07:44 PM
I see a dreadnought board in my future... hopefully they will come out relatively soon after initial release

Digital Dero
03-16-2008, 11:48 PM
hard to justify the upgrade, even if i get areal CPU.

http://i25.tinypic.com/aczm8.png

slim142
03-17-2008, 12:28 PM
Can anybody confirm at what time (around) is newegg going to post on their site the Striker II extreme? Or usually at what time do they post new items?

sonofander
03-17-2008, 04:00 PM
Can anybody confirm at what time (around) is newegg going to post on their site the Striker II extreme? Or usually at what time do they post new items?

good question! i wanna know too :D

kadozer
03-17-2008, 04:03 PM
Too bad op is banned I wanna hear more about this board..

Lu(ky
03-17-2008, 06:16 PM
Hey all of you current Striker II Extreme owners. Did anyone clean the N/S Chipset areas with AS5 or MX-2? I am wondering if it is needed with this board?

tet5uo
03-17-2008, 07:13 PM
Did the OP get banned for releasing benches too early?



The girl in his sig is hot... :)

Biker
03-17-2008, 07:17 PM
Did the OP get banned for releasing benches too early?



The girl in his sig is hot... :)


OBR is not banned.... kadozer was referring to the nda, I think ;)

We should be getting an avalanche of info soon....:)

*subs to thread* :D

tet5uo
03-17-2008, 07:33 PM
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Looks like he is :(

dinos22
03-17-2008, 08:44 PM
Looks like he is :(

have a look at this second last post fellas

he can be a bit of a pain sometimes calling ppl fanboys when they don't agree with him hence the ban

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2846163&postcount=115

Lu(ky
03-17-2008, 08:59 PM
dino22 how about some benches tonight around midnite??? ;) It will be 03-18-08

dinos22
03-17-2008, 09:01 PM
i got a new bios so gotta do some more testing when i get time >> they gave us more vdimm w00t :D

kinda hard with a couple of little kids and lots of public holidays atm :D

systemviper
03-17-2008, 09:09 PM
official launch is the same day like GF 9800 GX2 ... 18/3/2008


So they are comming out today? I sure hope so, I am looking forward to the 790i SLI

Do you think the better board wll be the Asus or the Evga?

I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI.. I want my 790i SLI..

Lu(ky
03-17-2008, 09:13 PM
So they are comming out today? I sure hope so, I am looking forward to the 790i SLI

Do you think the better board wll be the Asus or the Evga?

Depending on how much my local stores will charge on this Striker I may wait tell I see some benches on the eVGA as well before I spend my dough...

systemviper
03-17-2008, 09:15 PM
Depending on how much my local stores will charge on this Striker I may wait tell I see some benches on the eVGA as well before I spend my dough...

I still don't see them anywhere, you figure it's 1:15 am there should be something, right?

dinos22
03-17-2008, 09:17 PM
i know of at least one shop right next to me here with 790i mobos in stock ;)

systemviper
03-17-2008, 09:19 PM
i know of at least one shop right next to me here with 790i mobos in stock ;)

argggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

you tease!

Biker
03-17-2008, 09:35 PM
Looks like he is :(


have a look at this second last post fellas

he can be a bit of a pain sometimes calling ppl fanboys when they don't agree with him hence the ban

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2846163&postcount=115

LOL.

Diddn't spot that.......

Prepare for an avalanche ... of silence then :D

Unless.......


Erm...

Is anyone prepared to babysit dinos22's kids so he can get some testing done?? :lsfight: :bounces: :D

systemviper
03-17-2008, 09:53 PM
STRIKER EXTREME 2 790i

dinos22
03-17-2008, 10:10 PM
you guys are way too impatient

there will be lots of reviews done and posted overnight i'm sure

just relax a touch and find something to do for the next half a day

i am looking forward to reading all the reviews to see who had what take on the gear since i've got first hand experience this time round before some of these guy did

dinos22
03-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Is anyone prepared to babysit dinos22's kids so he can get some testing done?? :lsfight: :bounces: :D

hahahahahah that's what my kids are like
jumping up and down
maaaan kids are so much fun :D

Leeghoofd
03-18-2008, 06:30 AM
The "banned" review in an incredible difficult language...

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43

Dinos22 can you do a comperative review here or on i4memory of the mobo and some bandwith tests 9 x 400FSB - 8 x 450FSB with some different ram speeds... seems more mhz on the ram isn't again always better...

malik22
03-18-2008, 07:46 AM
Is there going to be an 790 sli boards with ddr2?

joe.denice
03-18-2008, 07:46 AM
probably not, I am getting my 790i board in tonight.

slim142
03-18-2008, 08:54 AM
OMG Im checking the egg to buy it right now! cant wait for it to be released!

saaya
03-18-2008, 09:33 AM
hmmmm the memory performance at high fsb/memspeed seems to suck... how come?

the fsb/mem performance at 400/1600 cas7 is quite nice tho.
i hope whatever timings nvidia relaxed to reach high fsb/memspeeds can be tightneded by us to get the same perf/speed at high fsb/mem speeds :D

slim142
03-18-2008, 09:48 AM
That problem has been there since 680i. One of the reasons why I might not go higher than 400mhz FSB but it kinda annoys me because you need 450mhz FSB in a cpu with multiplier of 9 to make it 4Ghz...

Leeghoofd
03-18-2008, 11:48 AM
I heard a newer bios gave more ram performance at high FSB... depending on divider used it seems...

With 680i Striker you had good ram performance up to 424Mhz... then it went downhill with higher FSB

slim142
03-18-2008, 11:53 AM
...

And to have the same perfomance of 424Mhz FSB you had to go all the way to 500mhz FSB which most strikers couldnt...

BTW, any news about the Striker II extreme??? Been looking at newegg for the last 3 hours.

Here in FL the time is 3:53pm, I believe there is 3 hours of difference between here and California right?

Lu(ky
03-18-2008, 11:58 AM
...

BTW, any news about the Striker II extreme??? Been looking at newegg for the last 3 hours.
Here in FL the time is 3:53pm, I believe there is 3 hours of difference between here and California right?

Only the eVGA & XFX 790i Ultra in stock so far...

Blacklash
03-18-2008, 12:05 PM
Techreport just reviewed one-

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14350

Too bad they are 349usd @ Newegg. Ugh.

tet5uo
03-18-2008, 12:09 PM
I ordered one of the EVGA this morning.. just have to wait for the shipping.

Oh snap, lol... I was so excited to get it I totally forgot to add some DDR3 to my order.

Anyone heard how well the G.SKILL F3-12800CL7D-2GBHZ kit works on this chipset?

joe.denice
03-18-2008, 01:05 PM
Ok, I have my board right now... I didn't have to reinstall windows because of the same raid drivers... now though should I have to reinstall windows??

slim142
03-18-2008, 01:23 PM
Still waiting for ASUS!!!! GRRR!!!

Lu(ky
03-18-2008, 01:39 PM
I am not sure which one to choose right now between the Asus Striker II Extreme or the eVGA 790i Ultra. I will be on water... Which way should I go for the money??

dinos22
03-18-2008, 01:40 PM
The "banned" review in an incredible difficult language...

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43

Dinos22 can you do a comperative review here or on i4memory of the mobo and some bandwith tests 9 x 400FSB - 8 x 450FSB with some different ram speeds... seems more mhz on the ram isn't again always better...

increasing FSB makes it run slower........i have to try the new bios which supposedly has somem changes but nvidia still hasn't fixed slow 32M SuperPi calculations. i am trying to fix this but from past experience they haven't done much in terms of that :shrug:

slim142
03-18-2008, 02:09 PM
Thats why you might want to pray that you get a good batch of penryn so you can go up to 500Mhz FSB

ShoNuff
03-18-2008, 02:20 PM
I am not sure which one to choose right now between the Asus Striker II Extreme or the eVGA 790i Ultra. I will be on water... Which way should I go for the money??

I picked evga b/c Eddy is going to be producing waterblocks for the new board soon (or so I hope :)). In addition to that I have always been impressed with evga's customers service. So far results have been impressive with both boards. In this case I don't see how you can go wrong with the evga.

@tet5uo IIRC the memory you referenced above are the same sticks that Jakup is using. Given his access to evga gear I am sure he made a good choice. I just picked some up and will be testing when I receive them.

slim142
03-18-2008, 02:51 PM
Yeah the eVGA is good but they are charging you a lot for the 790i and I think the ASUS comes with a lot of goodies which makes it worth it (somewhat). At least that was with the striker, idk about the Striker II since the price is unknown yet.

my87csx481
03-18-2008, 02:55 PM
Is 400fsb (1600QDR) still a hole for quads like 680i? :shakes:

webwilli
03-18-2008, 03:08 PM
my striker ii extreme arrived today :D

but with bios 0402.

if anyone find bios 0507 or 0504 please contact me.

thanks.

slim142
03-18-2008, 03:35 PM
Is 400fsb (1600QDR) still a hole for quads like 680i? :shakes:

Hopefully not.

webwilli, what CPU are you gonna use?

tet5uo
03-18-2008, 03:58 PM
Mine is shipping now, but the memory I forgot to order at the same time might be lagging behind by a bit :)

Excited to see what this puppy will do with my 9650.

slim142
03-18-2008, 04:08 PM
I wanna know, do this 790i s OC good with Quad-Cores?

dinos22
03-18-2008, 04:15 PM
here is a review from OC3D doing some very high FSB clocks with 790i

overall they seem impressed with their board (well except for price :D) hehehe

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/asus_striker_ii_extreme_790i_ddr3_motherboard/1

slim142
03-18-2008, 05:02 PM
Nice review, nice RESULTS!!!

webwilli
03-18-2008, 11:52 PM
Hopefully not.

webwilli, what CPU are you gonna use?

a crappy e6600.

i´m waiting for e8500.

slim142
03-19-2008, 09:20 AM
Suddenly everybody stopped posting here...

What happen? Everybody got the eVGA and are building your new rigs right now?

funkflix
03-19-2008, 09:22 AM
Should recieve my XFX tomorrow or on saturday. Will post some results then. :)

Lu(ky
03-19-2008, 09:58 AM
Suddenly everybody stopped posting here...

What happen? Everybody got the eVGA and are building your new rigs right now?

Slim142 :rofl:

I am sure the new Intel Q9450 should do well these 790i Ultra boards. Hitting 3.6GHz with a 8 x multi should be easy, maybe a 4Ghz could happen?

tet5uo
03-19-2008, 10:06 AM
boards still not here... this is going to be a torturous wait..

slim142
03-19-2008, 11:15 AM
Slim142 :rofl:

I am sure the new Intel Q9450 should do well these 790i Ultra boards. Hitting 3.6GHz with a 8 x multi should be easy, maybe a 4Ghz could happen?

Hehe :D
It is true, everybody was posting stuff since like 12am yesterday and suddenly no answers...

Well, talked to newegg rep and also keep refreshing the search thing every 5 mins and still NO STRIKER II EXTREME!!! :shakes:
I wonder what happened...

GAR
03-19-2008, 12:01 PM
Price is wayy to high, this is crazy, with the economy the way it is, i dont see how people are paying so much, and retailers charging so much

bro20000
03-19-2008, 12:12 PM
Just found this!790i
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280210455294&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

xgman
03-19-2008, 12:19 PM
Where did anyone order this ASUS Striker II Extreme 790i from in the usa?

xgman
03-19-2008, 12:31 PM
What would overclock higher on this board 4x1GB or 2x2GB, keeping in mind that 2x2gb sticks are going to be rated slower to begin with due to density? This product http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_pc3_16000_nvida_sli_ready_edition looks nice for it, but it is only avail. in 1gb sticks. What do you guys that have run nvidia boards lately with 4gb think?

sonofander
03-19-2008, 01:44 PM
tired of waiting for Striker... :( just ordered the EVGA board.

honestly, it's probably for the best. I remember when quads first came out and the 680i was teriible at clocking them, EVGA gave out free new revision boards... Then, when 780i hit, EVGA gave a $70 upgrade path to it from the old 680s.

Can't say I ever remember Asus taking care of it's customers so well. So the bottom line is that the Asus is gonna cost $150 more (and will have more bling) and the EVGA board is gonna take care of me if anything goes wrong.

I think the EVGA is the smart purchase at this point
(do we all appreciate how I'm justifying the EVGA purchase since I was too damn impatient to wait for the Striker???)

slim142
03-19-2008, 02:09 PM
tired of waiting for Striker... :( just ordered the EVGA board.

honestly, it's probably for the best. I remember when quads first came out and the 680i was teriible at clocking them, EVGA gave out free new revision boards... Then, when 780i hit, EVGA gave a $70 upgrade path to it from the old 680s.

Can't say I ever remember Asus taking care of it's customers so well. So the bottom line is that the Asus is gonna cost $150 more (and will have more bling) and the EVGA board is gonna take care of me if anything goes wrong.

I think the EVGA is the smart purchase at this point
(do we all appreciate how I'm justifying the EVGA purchase since I was too damn impatient to wait for the Striker???)

But sonofander... looking at your signature... it looks like you can afford an Striker II :cool:

Anyways yes Im getting tired of the waiting... if its not out today at night, Im gonna end up buying the eVGA.

fox3
03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
On ASUS site it has a press release today stating the striker II extreme is being offered today at North American retailers.

ReverendMaynard
03-19-2008, 02:41 PM
LOL

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29129&vpn=90%2DMIB2T0%2DG0AAY00Z&manufacture=ASUS

ASUS are funny.

slim142
03-19-2008, 02:44 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! ASUS thinks Im gonna pay $470 for a motherboard! Give me a break!!!!

What a Dissapointment! Look what they say on their press release

"The ROG Striker II Extreme is currently available through ASUS North American dealers. The introductory MSRP is $469 USD"

Wow, eVGA here I go! With $470 I will be able to buy a motherboard and a kit of RAM.

ASUS must be crazy after they had such a low popularity with the first striker, now they want like $100 more than the first striker... HELL NAH!

slim142
03-19-2008, 04:06 PM
So.... anybody ready to empty their pockets? BTW, how much did you people in Europe pay for the motherboard?

KeyzerComponent
03-19-2008, 05:05 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! ASUS thinks Im gonna pay $470 for a motherboard! Give me a break!!!!

What a Dissapointment! Look what they say on their press release

"The ROG Striker II Extreme is currently available through ASUS North American dealers. The introductory MSRP is $469 USD"

Wow, eVGA here I go! With $470 I will be able to buy a motherboard and a kit of RAM.

ASUS must be crazy after they had such a low popularity with the first striker, now they want like $100 more than the first striker... HELL NAH!


You think thats bad, the cheapest 790i in the country at the moment is at $555 AUS! i really want to get it from newegg, but they don't F@#$ing ship international, $350 US, and the conversion rate at 91c, man ill be saving over $150 bucks... Be nice if i knew someone in the states. Aw well will have to stick with the 780i.

dinos22
03-19-2008, 05:07 PM
i heard that 790i boards will sell in mid to high $300s

so just wait a little longer as retailers are :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana:s and will price gouge and take advantage of the situation

this really pisses me off :mad:

dinos22
03-19-2008, 05:09 PM
LOL

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29129&vpn=90%2DMIB2T0%2DG0AAY00Z&manufacture=ASUS

ASUS are funny.

that's NOTHING

in australia retailers are selling them for AUD$699 which is around US$650 :mad: :mad: :mad:

slim142
03-19-2008, 06:27 PM
Wow, and I thought I was dealing with bad Retailers hahaha, sorry for you buddies in AUS.

Well I think we will all have to either go eVGA! or wait. Hopefully dinos is right and they are just waiting for the full-money-pocket guys to purchase it then probably lower the prices.

But hey! if they take a long time to lower the prices, forget it! Nehalem coming up (new socket) so that makes every single 775 motherboard USELESS!! make sure you dont spend an eternity waiting for a price decrease!

tet5uo
03-19-2008, 06:29 PM
I ordered the EVGA...

Not having to wait longer and pay lots more.. on top of how well evga treats their customers it was an easy choice.

funkflix
03-19-2008, 07:03 PM
I payed 256€ for my XFX, think that is okay. Still very expensive for a motherboard.. :p:

dinos22
03-19-2008, 07:10 PM
Wow, and I thought I was dealing with bad Retailers hahaha, sorry for you buddies in AUS.

Well I think we will all have to either go eVGA! or wait. Hopefully dinos is right and they are just waiting for the full-money-pocket guys to purchase it then probably lower the prices.

But hey! if they take a long time to lower the prices, forget it! Nehalem coming up (new socket) so that makes every single 775 motherboard USELESS!! make sure you dont spend an eternity waiting for a price decrease!
one of the shops here told me their buy price

i am right
they are just cashing in

if stock gets sold too quickly next batch will almost certainly jump in price and knowing how tight our distributors normally are it's not looking great

there are websites in australia which facilitate purchases in US >> these retailers have to understand that if they :banana::banana::banana::banana: around too much the business will go to Mr.Newegg and others

golfjam
03-19-2008, 07:15 PM
I ordered the EVGA...

Not having to wait longer and pay lots more.. on top of how well evga treats their customers it was an easy choice.

My previous EVGA 780i died 2 times but I got my RMA in less than 2 days after I've sent the mobo. Awesome customer service and they cross ship if you pay a few extra bucks. Try that with Asus and what a world of difference!

joe.denice
03-19-2008, 07:26 PM
everyone who has this, have you noticed the vdrop issues again??

webwilli
03-19-2008, 11:14 PM
I payed 256€ for my XFX, think that is okay. Still very expensive for a motherboard.. :p:

256 € is nothing :rofl: You must buy the Striker II Extreme my friend. 330 € :ROTF:


everyone who has this, have you noticed the vdrop issues again??

my Striker II Extreme have no VCore Drop issue.
loadline calibration in bios on and i can´t see any Drop.

Lu(ky
03-20-2008, 12:38 AM
256 € is nothing :rofl: You must buy the Striker II Extreme my friend. 330 € :ROTF:



my Striker II Extreme have no VCore Drop issue.
loadline calibration in bios on and i can´t see any Drop.

well that is good to know... And I am sure the price will come down in a month or so to around $350-$399.

How does the chipset fusion block work? Does it really help keep the temps down on the N/S blocks?

seamumc
03-20-2008, 04:27 AM
Can anyone provide some information on the performance of RAID and hard disks in general for this mobo? This is an area NVidia's chipset have been fairly weak in.

TIA

OBR
03-20-2008, 08:23 AM
i have two raptprs in raid and runs like a hell ...

webwilli
03-20-2008, 08:40 AM
hi OBR,

which you use for the board?

9.64?

Lu(ky
03-20-2008, 08:59 AM
How does the chipset fusion block work? Does it really help keep the temps down on the N/S blocks? And are you guys and gals even using it on water??

slim142
03-20-2008, 09:13 AM
one of the shops here told me their buy price

i am right
they are just cashing in

if stock gets sold too quickly next batch will almost certainly jump in price and knowing how tight our distributors normally are it's not looking great

there are websites in australia which facilitate purchases in US >> these retailers have to understand that if they :banana::banana::banana::banana: around too much the business will go to Mr.Newegg and others


Thats totally true, last year with the Striker Extreme I remember they sold out in like 15 minutes and they took almost 2 weeks to get more. ZZF took 1 week but they always ran out faster.

And yes thanks to those people, probably the mobo wont lower its price. Poor S2E.

skinnee
03-20-2008, 09:41 AM
i have two raptprs in raid and runs like a hell ...

hell as in good or hell as in bad? :shrug:

seamumc
03-20-2008, 10:12 AM
hell as in good or hell as in bad? :shrug:

Err, yeah, in America we use that kind of phrase to indicate something bad. Context seems to indicate that OBR was happy with the perf though.

Sigh, I may just have to pick this thing up :D. What's funny is that newegg has been selling out of DDR3 ram over the last couple days, prompted by sales of the 790i boards I'm sure.

skinnee
03-20-2008, 02:36 PM
Yeah, I was being a smart-ass. I figured he meant good...but just felt like tossing in some sarcasm.

peterpiper
03-20-2008, 02:57 PM
man, these look the dogs...

skinnee
03-20-2008, 04:07 PM
man, these look the dogs...

:rofl: my dumb american ass has no idea what that means.

Lu(ky
03-20-2008, 04:34 PM
Don't figure anything till the flood gates are fully open and everyone gets, yet another huge disappointment.

I mean, if they didn't get it right the first time, nor the 2nd, 3rd one never came out which was a joke and then.......well, so far I haven't seen anything promising and most likely I'll hit the megamillion or powerball before nFarce gets to be good, like Intel's that is.

Come on Nasgul did NForce steal your girlfriend or something? Because I see you bashing Nforce on BPC, OCN, and now here. Come on already it is just a motherboard not the end of the world. I have had problems with my eVGA 680i many times but it was from bad RMA's and not getting a good fixed replacement board.:down:

Kopi
03-20-2008, 04:39 PM
I couldn't agree more.

Stop being a fanboy and actually appreciate the product for what it is. Sorry its not just another 965 copy.

I for one like the looks of this board, but want more results :p

DMH
03-20-2008, 05:24 PM
256 € is nothing :rofl: You must buy the Striker II Extreme my friend. 330 € :ROTF:



my Striker II Extreme have no VCore Drop issue.
loadline calibration in bios on and i can´t see any Drop.
You should buy the EVGA 343€:D

sonofander
03-20-2008, 05:44 PM
Got my EVGA board today... been a while since I've been on an nVidia chipset. Taking a while to get her going :( cant wait to start benching

n3wbi3
03-20-2008, 06:20 PM
that's NOTHING

in australia retailers are selling them for AUD$699 which is around US$650 :mad: :mad: :mad:



OMFG ur right ........ WTF am pissed off dino looks like my money will be going os .....

http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=790i

:down:

After 3 of my asus stikers 680i blew up in a week asus can suck my **** before i pay $600+ for a mb from them agian..... EVGA all the way

IanY
03-20-2008, 07:09 PM
Let's get back on topic.

What's your favorite brand of memory for this mobo? GSkill? Corsair? OCZ?

Anyone tried with two 9800GX2s yet (although there are no drivers available lol) ?

slim142
03-20-2008, 07:45 PM
I love G.Skill, nice kits and support.

Hate corsair cause they use Elpida on most memories and their RAMs are very VERY expensive.

sonofander
03-20-2008, 08:30 PM
long time since I've been on a nvidia board... what volts are what?

SPP = ?
MCP = ?

thanks

OBR
03-20-2008, 10:46 PM
Let's get back on topic.

What's your favorite brand of memory for this mobo? GSkill? Corsair? OCZ?

Anyone tried with two 9800GX2s yet (although there are no drivers available lol) ?

I am running on Corsairs + Teamgroup 1800MHz 4GB and everything is great ...

Here is with GX2 ...

http://i31.tinypic.com/9avnnr.jpg

and here complete review of Striker II Extreme, is in Czech but pictures and graphs dont need a translation :

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43

saaya
03-21-2008, 12:22 AM
ive heard the asus board still has fsb holes with the latest bios? :/
how bad is it? are there many fsb holes?

BenchZowner
03-21-2008, 01:07 AM
long time since I've been on a nvidia board... what volts are what?

SPP = ?
MCP = ?

thanks

SPP = SouthBridge
MCP = MCH ( NorthBridge )


ive heard the asus board still has fsb holes with the latest bios? :/
how bad is it? are there many fsb holes?

Expected to be honest.
The Striker was a mediocre board, sometimes it would treat you nice and work fine, sometimes it'd be a pita and kill you slowly.
At least I hope ( for Asus's sake ) that the Striker II Extreme is less buggy.
Don't know yet... I'm out to buy a nF790i mobo...but this time I'm not going to be a guinea pig or take the plunge without seeing stuff first.
I'll wait patiently for the rest to take their chances on various nF790i boards first... and then I'm going to chime in... :D

patience is a virtue they say ;)

OBR
03-21-2008, 01:47 AM
ive heard the asus board still has fsb holes with the latest bios? :/
how bad is it? are there many fsb holes?

I have maped FSB holes on nF680/780 Asus Striker, Striker II Formula but on this nf790 there are not usual holes like before (400mhz for example) , i can set any FSB without problem ..... my OC is 550MHz without holes, but i am testing only 45nm cpus ... 65nm Kensfield cannot to be overclocked, in BIOS is some problem ...

sonofander
03-21-2008, 01:53 AM
SPP = SouthBridge
MCP = MCH ( NorthBridge )

just found this

"The NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI chipset is comprised of two parts. First is the System Platform Processor (SPP), analogous to Intel's Memory Controller Hub (MCH) or "Northbridge", and second is the Media and Communications Processor (MCP) that provides nearly the same functionality as Intel's I/O Controller Hub (ICH) or "Southbridge."

so SPP = NB
and MCP = SB

why is EVGA giving me such low NB voltage options? :(

webwilli
03-21-2008, 03:51 AM
I am running on Corsairs + Teamgroup 1800MHz 4GB and everything is great ...

Here is with GX2 ...

http://i31.tinypic.com/9avnnr.jpg

and here complete review of Striker II Extreme, is in Czech but pictures and graphs dont need a translation :

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43


UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách

can anyone translate this please... :)

and this site please: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43&limit=1&limitstart=5

there are useful infos for me, but i can´t read this :(


long time since I've been on a nvidia board... what volts are what?

SPP = ?
MCP = ?

thanks

SPP = NB
MCP = SB

Leeghoofd
03-21-2008, 04:10 AM
just found this

so SPP = NB
and MCP = SB

why is EVGA giving me such low NB voltage options? :(

Because you don't need more prolly...:rolleyes:

With 680i it was different, though eVGA 780i was also only up to 1.55 I believe (don't shoot me if I am wrong). I needed there only 1.45 NB voltage for 450FSB with 1200mhz on the ram with a Qx... 790i seems to need even less voltage according the reviews... though I'm holding out on this one till the dust has settled... :D

dinos22
03-21-2008, 04:13 AM
SPP = NB
MCP = SB

that's correct

seamumc
03-21-2008, 04:52 AM
I am running on Corsairs + Teamgroup 1800MHz 4GB and everything is great ...

Here is with GX2 ...

http://i31.tinypic.com/9avnnr.jpg

and here complete review of Striker II Extreme, is in Czech but pictures and graphs dont need a translation :

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43

Finally someone did at least one test on RAID performance. I'm guessing that was for RAID 0. They really should have done a CPU utilization test for the RAID controller, makes a big difference knowing how much CPU is being used.

From another review I saw, CPU utilization for non-RAID was on par with Intel's and much better then the 780i. I imagine since RAID 0 is so simplistic we can expect similar improvements.

Thanks OBR.

BTW, do you have any experience with an NVidia reference 790i board and how it compares to the ASUS?

Charles Wirth
03-21-2008, 04:56 AM
I posted up my first round of numbers here;
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181308

An E8400 @ 600FSB 5.4Ghz :banana:

The Duo is very strong with high FSB.

OBR
03-21-2008, 06:14 AM
can anyone translate this please... :)

and this site please: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43&limit=1&limitstart=5

there are useful infos for me, but i can´t read this :(



SPP = NB
MCP = SB

it is my own review, i can translate for you anything you want ...

PS. I have now eVGA reference mobo and it is ocing king, like FUGGER said 600MHz+ no problem ... but against Asus ... has eVGA mobo only cheap capacitors and design is horrible ...

sonofander
03-21-2008, 06:20 AM
vdroop on EVGA board is terrible...

vcore bios set = 1.55
vcore windows idle = 1.49
vcore windowls load (prime small ffts) = 1.42

webwilli
03-21-2008, 06:33 AM
it is my own review, i can translate for you anything you want ...

PS. I have now eVGA reference mobo and it is ocing king, like FUGGER said 600MHz+ no problem ... but against Asus ... has eVGA mobo only cheap capacitors and design is horrible ...

ok. please translate:


UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách

and this site please: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10409&Itemid=43&limit=1&limitstart=5


EVGA is better than ASUS in max FSB?
what was your max FSB with the ASUS?

dinos22
03-21-2008, 06:55 AM
vdroop on EVGA board is terrible...

vcore bios set = 1.55
vcore windows idle = 1.49
vcore windowls load (prime small ffts) = 1.42

i have an unconfirmed pencil droop mod image on another machine

vince is using it but he has a VR on it
i could not get the pencil mod to work properly so have to try again
if it works i'll post it for ya :)

joe.denice
03-21-2008, 06:55 AM
vdroop on EVGA board is terrible...

vcore bios set = 1.55
vcore windows idle = 1.49
vcore windowls load (prime small ffts) = 1.42


Agreed. I hope there is a pencil mod for this board.

OBR
03-21-2008, 07:05 AM
webwilli -

UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách

New Nvidia Control panel (6.10) dont work correctly with this Asus board ... it is fully working only on referrence boards (XFX, eVGA ...)

That part of article is about a FSB strap changing, on first pictures are best MEM performances ... FSB is 400MHz and mem/fsb ratio is 2:1 = mem performance is BEST ...

On next picture is second rule broken, FSB is 400, but ratio mem/fsb is higher the 2:1 = mems performance is very bad!

last picture is broken first rule, FSB is higher then 400 (and strap in NB was changed to compatible mode), but mem /fsb ratio is 2:1 ... but mems performance is also very bad ...

result: if you want the highest mem performance, you have to find best combination of strab in NB and ratio fsb/mem ... but best performance will be with fsb around 400MHz fsb ...

Asus board is great with NO undervolting, Loadline cal. works perfectly!

bellinghamwa
03-21-2008, 07:27 AM
OBR,

I just picked up a 790i and 9800GX2, but am concerned about a CPU bottleneck.

Would you recommend an E8500 (@3.8) or Q9450(@3.2)?

Leeghoofd
03-21-2008, 07:34 AM
get an E8400 mate and put the gained cash in the Ultra 120 eXtreme cpu cooler... and clock to 4ghz...

7499richard
03-21-2008, 07:54 AM
so whats the feelings, are people liking the reference boards or the asus board better?

if not big difference I think the ~$100 saved is worth it...

OBR
03-21-2008, 07:58 AM
OBR,

I just picked up a 790i and 9800GX2, but am concerned about a CPU bottleneck.

Would you recommend an E8500 (@3.8) or Q9450(@3.2)?

E8400 at 4GHz will be every time better then Quad at 3.2GHz ... Quad is good for 3D06 scores, and video encoding ... but for gaming is better high clocked Dual core ...

sonofander
03-21-2008, 08:16 AM
how bout a quad at 4.0 ;)

But seriously, no striker in US... What gives?

Big Myke
03-21-2008, 08:28 AM
E8400 at 4GHz will be every time better then Quad at 3.2GHz ... Quad is good for 3D06 scores, and video encoding ... but for gaming is better high clocked Dual core ...

is a stable 8x450 possible with q9450 on air with the asus 790i ultra w/o cutting memory performance?

webwilli
03-21-2008, 08:46 AM
webwilli -

UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách

New Nvidia Control panel (6.10) dont work correctly with this Asus board ... it is fully working only on referrence boards (XFX, eVGA ...)

That part of article is about a FSB strap changing, on first pictures are best MEM performances ... FSB is 400MHz and mem/fsb ratio is 2:1 = mem performance is BEST ...

On next picture is second rule broken, FSB is 400, but ratio mem/fsb is higher the 2:1 = mems performance is very bad!

last picture is broken first rule, FSB is higher then 400 (and strap in NB was changed to compatible mode), but mem /fsb ratio is 2:1 ... but mems performance is also very bad ...

result: if you want the highest mem performance, you have to find best combination of strab in NB and ratio fsb/mem ... but best performance will be with fsb around 400MHz fsb ...

Asus board is great with NO undervolting, Loadline cal. works perfectly!

many thanks for declaration. is linked or unlinked mode better for RAM and performance?

i think i will keep the asus.

saaya
03-21-2008, 08:58 AM
I have maped FSB holes on nF680/780 Asus Striker, Striker II Formula but on this nf790 there are not usual holes like before (400mhz for example) , i can set any FSB without problem ..... my OC is 550MHz without holes, but i am testing only 45nm cpus ... 65nm Kensfield cannot to be overclocked, in BIOS is some problem ...

webwilli and another guy i talked to said there is an fsb hole around 400fsb, and that was with 45nm cpus afaik. but they didnt use the 0507 bios


vdroop on EVGA board is terrible...

vcore bios set = 1.55
vcore windows idle = 1.49
vcore windowls load (prime small ffts) = 1.42
correct me if im wrong, but thats not vdroop.
vdroop is the delta of idle vcore and load vcore.
in this case the vcore is way low in both cases meansing the board undervolts quite badly around 0.5v

vdroop is 0.7v in this case, which is higher than the intel spec i think...
so its both, bad vdroop and bad undervolting :/


how bout a quad at 4.0 ;)

But seriously, no striker in US... What gives?
and why would you want 2 extra cores?
its only usefull in benchmarks and videoencoding, and... heating your room and burning extra watts increasing your electricity bill :lol:

OBR
03-21-2008, 08:59 AM
it is not depend on linked or unlinked, but on real ratio (you can see it in cpuz, everest) but easy way is with linked ...

slim142
03-21-2008, 01:33 PM
I wonder why the egg doesnt have any on stock when NCIX has almost run out of them...

Big Myke
03-21-2008, 02:50 PM
Ncix is based in BC, Canada and Newegg is based in California.:shrug:

But why would the Canadians sell it before the Americans, I'm not sure..

Edit: I just an e-mail from an online e-commerce company who I placed a pre-order for the asus 790i ultra informing me that Asus delayed shipments of their mobos. Hopefully this delay does not apply to newegg or clubit.

My educated guess would be that they delayed the mobo so that they are released along with the asus en9800gx2

Disappointing.

Lu(ky
03-21-2008, 05:49 PM
Let me rephrase this a little FROM: I have had problems with my eVGA 680i many times but it was from bad RMA's and not getting a good fixed replacement board.
TO: 1 bad eVGA 680i motherboard, with 3 bad replacement boards. :hehe:

dinos22
03-21-2008, 05:52 PM
lol Nasgul

can a MOD here please give nasgul a custom title
nvidia motherboard hater :D

canislupy
03-21-2008, 06:07 PM
At C1 (Base Memory Detect), my EVGA 790i is hanging (damn I hate that incessant beep). The mem volt light is orange, both of which lead me to the RAM. No matter which slot I use with which stick (either and/or both), it looks like either my board or this Cellshock PC3-14400 is DOA (both sticks? hard to believe). I don't think its that this board doesn't like Cellshock, since IIRC there is someone on these boards who is also using this combo.

To be sure it wasn't CPU related as I just got an E3110, I also tried my X6800. Same results for both.

Resetting CMOS does nothing.

Removed everything non-essential.

Banged head against wall.

Anyone have any ideas or am I doomed to RMA land on what was supposed to be the savior of my 680i troubles it replaced. :shakes:

slim142
03-21-2008, 06:34 PM
Ncix is based in BC, Canada and Newegg is based in California.:shrug:

But why would the Canadians sell it before the Americans, I'm not sure..

Edit: I just an e-mail from an online e-commerce company who I placed a pre-order for the asus 790i ultra informing me that Asus delayed shipments of their mobos. Hopefully this delay does not apply to newegg or clubit.

My educated guess would be that they delayed the mobo so that they are released along with the asus en9800gx2

Disappointing.

It already did, release was suppose to be on the 18, but w/e I really dont care about it now. The press release on the asus site made it all clear that this waiting was not worth it.

Anyways guys, anybody had any trouble with the famous CPU INIT problem? or any other boot problem? RAM voltage issues or anything?

sonofander
03-21-2008, 07:02 PM
@ canislupy:

I had the exact same prob. Same board, same ram

The board isn't giving the ram enough volts to boot. I had to go buy a POS kit of 1066 ddr3 to boot with, get into the bios to raise the volts, everything fine since.

Update to bios po3 - seems to help, but I'm keeping the back up kit of ram just in case

ACE76
03-21-2008, 07:28 PM
tired of waiting for Striker... :( just ordered the EVGA board.

honestly, it's probably for the best. I remember when quads first came out and the 680i was teriible at clocking them, EVGA gave out free new revision boards... Then, when 780i hit, EVGA gave a $70 upgrade path to it from the old 680s.

Can't say I ever remember Asus taking care of it's customers so well. So the bottom line is that the Asus is gonna cost $150 more (and will have more bling) and the EVGA board is gonna take care of me if anything goes wrong.

I think the EVGA is the smart purchase at this point
(do we all appreciate how I'm justifying the EVGA purchase since I was too damn impatient to wait for the Striker???)

I agree but wish that the EVGA board had 8 phase power, not 6...not a deal breaker, but if you intend on doing some heavy duty OC, 8 phase is the only way IMO.

dinos22
03-21-2008, 07:33 PM
I agree but wish that the EVGA board had 8 phase power, not 6...not a deal breaker, but if you intend on doing some heavy duty OC, 8 phase is the only way IMO.

ARE YOU SURE ;)

have a look at vince's 5.9GHz 2v benchmarks with a quad

is that heavy enough for ya :p:

read up a little on it here
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3265&p=3
Kris touches on it


The EVGA 790i also uses a true 6-phase PWM controller, where many other boards may make use of 4-phase controllers designed in such a way as to appear to be native 8-phase solutions. Supply-side capacitance has been significantly increased and the main +12V input capacitance has gone way up from only 470uF to 2000uF. This helps overclocking as some cheaper PSUs have higher allowable tolerances when it comes to input current ripple. We say this knowing full well that beyond a certain point additional capacitance matters very little. Often times larger capacitors are used in order to take advantage of their lower equivalent series resistance (ESR), a specification that has a great deal to do with how quickly the capacitor can react to sudden load changes and provide current precisely when needed.


Motherboard PWM Comparison
Intel
Spec 780i 790i Notes
Loadline (mohm) 1 +/- 0.1 0.93 1.01 Higher loadline values create more droop
Max Icc (A) 125 165 220 High current output supports higher overclocks
Max Overvoltage (V) 1.6 1.8 2.0 Higher voltages allow for extreme overclocking
Output Ripple (mV) 10p-p 9p-p 6p-p Less peak-to-peak ripple means "cleaner" power and more stable overclocks
Thermal Drift (mV) +/- 4 +/- 3 +/- 2 Tighter tolerances means that the circuit is less susceptible to variations in component temperatures
Phase Jitter (ns) no spec 390 180 Less jitter means smoother, more stable power delivery
Efficiency 75% 82.4% 83.6%

Higher efficiency allows for cooler components at higher currents and less energy used by the system

We have listed a few of the more important PWM specifications in order to compare the differences between the 780i and 790i processor power systems. These are just a couple of the more measurable improvements made to ensure ample processor power delivery under even the most demanding situations and to help minimize the detrimental effects of supply-line switching noise and de-stabilizing output ripple. Overclocking places tremendous demands on the power delivery system and without this strong foundation, even your best efforts are sure to fail (particularly in the case of long-term overclocking).

NVIDIA also recognized the need for a more capable power subsystem cooling solution due to the tremendous current draw of 45nm CPUs experienced during aggressive overclocking. The heatpipe has been extended to encompass both sets of MOSFET banks, including an extra segment of fins used to close the circle and provide additional surface area for maximum heat dissipation. The heatsink assembly is made entirely of aluminum, except for the steel casing used to hold it together, and the included fan can be used to provide active cooling when pushing the board to its absolute limits. The fan speed can also be manually adjusted in the BIOS if you find the whine at full-speed to be a little over the top.

ACE76
03-21-2008, 07:39 PM
I'm sorry, I don't even know who Vince is....he did that with a reference clone 790i Ultra board? If so, that's amazing....the earllier 680i and even the 780i boards didn't perform THAT well.

I'm surprised that with the way boards are made these days that the reference board still doesn't have aluminum caps.

dinos22
03-21-2008, 07:46 PM
I'm sorry, I don't even know who Vince is....he did that with a reference clone 790i Ultra board? If so, that's amazing....the earllier 680i and even the 780i boards didn't perform THAT well.

I'm surprised that with the way boards are made these days that the reference board still doesn't have aluminum caps.

Vince = kingpin

best overclocker in the world :D

how can you not know vince :p: j/k

read this thread the benchmarks are in there :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178546

ACE76
03-21-2008, 08:09 PM
That was an informative article...makes me wonder if the Striker II Extreme's 8 phase power is a "fake" and no where as good as the reference design's.

ACE76
03-21-2008, 08:37 PM
Nice read!

I want to hold off on going DDR3 mainstream but this is making me want to buy a 790i now...I just ordered a DFI X48 T2R and a 9800 GX2 too.

eternal_fantasy
03-21-2008, 08:48 PM
That was an informative article...makes me wonder if the Striker II Extreme's 8 phase power is a "fake" and no where as good as the reference design's.

IMO Reviewers tends to write in favor of the product they are currently reviewing, giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Just a little extract from another article, the Asus P5E3 Premium, again from Anandtech, and you will know what I mean:

6-Phase EVGA PWM: March 18th, 2008
"Because of this, the proper design and implementation of a well-developed 5-phase solution can often outperform a lesser 8-phase solution.

The EVGA 790i also uses a true 6-phase PWM controller, where many other boards may make use of 4-phase controllers designed in such a way as to appear to be native 8-phase solutions."
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3265&p=3

8-Phase Asus PWM: Date: February 20th, 2008
"ASUS' power delivery system is among the best in the business at this time. An ADP3228 PWM controller commands an 8-phase solution, made up of low-DCR, solid ferrite-core Yageo inductors, and ultra-low ESR Nichicon capacitors."
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229&p=2

Of course, these are merely my observations. Take from it what you will, but I often look for the facts and stats, and less on the reviewer's opinion.:)

funkflix
03-22-2008, 05:54 AM
Recieved my XFX today! I will post some results later. :D

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_zubehoer1.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_zubehoer2.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_board_komplett.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_anschluesse.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_connectors.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_cpu_area.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_slots.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_mcp.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_spp.jpg

http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/xfx_790i/xfx_luefter.jpg

slim142
03-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Good luck flunkflix :)

And btw, how can you NOT know who vince is? xP

BTW, I can see people who bought the SIIE are pretty busy OCing... I see no pictures from them lol! would like to see some :)

sonofander
03-22-2008, 05:03 PM
having a hard time booting into OS with mem frequency in unlinked mode... I can run my ram @ 1800 no prob at 450 fsb in sync mode, but if I drop my fsb to 400, I can't run 1800 in unlinked mode :(

Anybody having any luck with this? Help me!!! LOL

dinos22
03-22-2008, 06:06 PM
having a hard time booting into OS with mem frequency in unlinked mode... I can run my ram @ 1800 no prob at 450 fsb in sync mode, but if I drop my fsb to 400, I can't run 1800 in unlinked mode :(

Anybody having any luck with this? Help me!!! LOL

install RAM in black slots

sonofander
03-22-2008, 06:29 PM
install RAM in black slots


They are...

gastoncapo
03-22-2008, 06:50 PM
just bought a evga 790i !!! cant wait to get it...now the next buy is ddr3 ram, what do you guys recommend?? i will be using a q6600 for overclocking fun..i am new to ddr3 so any advise would be greatly appreciated!!

sonofander
03-22-2008, 06:53 PM
just bought a evga 790i !!! cant wait to get it...now the next buy is ddr3 ram, what do you guys recommend?? i will be using a q6600 for overclocking fun..i am new to ddr3 so any advise would be greatly appreciated!!

the best there seems to be out right now is the Cell Shock 1800 (theres a thread on it in the bandwidth section). Corsair's 1800 CL7 seems to be doing well too

If those kits are too expensive any kit with micron gtr/gts will do

go have a look around in the bandwidth section - theres alot of discussion on DDR3 right now and kits that have the micron chips

slim142
03-22-2008, 07:34 PM
C mon guys! no point on buying such expensive RAM! You are already DDR3 future-proof, get a good 1333mhz and wait for the high-ends to come down in price...

Also, dinos and ppl with S2E boards, whats up with BIOS 503 and 504? I heard they are REAAAALLY good, are they really thaaat good?

ShoNuff
03-22-2008, 08:25 PM
having a hard time booting into OS with mem frequency in unlinked mode... I can run my ram @ 1800 no prob at 450 fsb in sync mode, but if I drop my fsb to 400, I can't run 1800 in unlinked mode :(

Anybody having any luck with this? Help me!!! LOL

Are you using the PO3 (http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=290927&mpage=1&key=&#290927) bios?

sonofander
03-22-2008, 09:14 PM
Are you using the PO3 (http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=290927&mpage=1&key=&#290927) bios?


as it turns out, I guess I'm not running the new bios :(

can't download it from EVGA... can someone post it or email it to me?

EDIT:

got em' thanks!

stickybz
03-22-2008, 11:27 PM
Hi

Is anyone running 4Gb DDR3 1800Mhz on this board. Have 2Gb OCZ 1800 with asus 790i ultra, but thought read somewhere is problem with 4X1Gb modules @1800??!!

pinto
03-23-2008, 01:21 AM
At C1 (Base Memory Detect), my EVGA 790i is hanging (damn I hate that incessant beep). The mem volt light is orange, both of which lead me to the RAM. No matter which slot I use with which stick (either and/or both), it looks like either my board or this Cellshock PC3-14400 is DOA (both sticks? hard to believe). I don't think its that this board doesn't like Cellshock, since IIRC there is someone on these boards who is also using this combo.

To be sure it wasn't CPU related as I just got an E3110, I also tried my X6800. Same results for both.

Resetting CMOS does nothing.

Removed everything non-essential.

Banged head against wall.

Anyone have any ideas or am I doomed to RMA land on what was supposed to be the savior of my 680i troubles it replaced. :shakes:


Same problem here, it's the ram voltage at first boot (1.5v). I bought some low end DDR3 (PC8500@1.5v) and it boot immediatly! Set the vddr to what your cellshock are usually works and switch the ram, no problem anymore.

funkflix
03-23-2008, 01:35 AM
Know about that problem to good too.. First problem is the Vdimm of 1.5V and second problem is the default 1T. Try with one DIMM in the gray slot with the greater distnce to cpu. It worked for me. Then set Vdimm higher and enable 2T.

Have a lot of trouble with my OCZ PC12800 7-6-6-20 EB on the XFX. They clock really bad, not like some Micron stuff. Highest possibe memclock without corrupted windows boot is about 850MHz 8-8-8-24 2T 1,95V. Will get some Cellshocks in the near future.

sonofander
03-23-2008, 06:07 AM
the cells shocks are awesome!!! - but my troubles continue

Still can't run ram unlocked :(

dinos22
03-23-2008, 06:12 AM
the cells shocks are awesome!!! - but my troubles continue

Still can't run ram unlocked :(

so locked no problems at same speed?
yet unlocked has issues?

i would try playing with SPP/MCP volts a bit

i don't seems to have issues locked or unlocked but from my experience gray slows were clocking RAM poorly with initial bios

black slots were much better :)

sonofander
03-23-2008, 07:04 AM
so locked no problems at same speed?
yet unlocked has issues?

i would try playing with SPP/MCP volts a bit

i don't seems to have issues locked or unlocked but from my experience gray slows were clocking RAM poorly with initial bios

black slots were much better :)

all my volts are maxed... ram in black slots... newest bios... good ram... --> still can't run unlinked mode
I really want to run my memory at 2000, so I guess I'll just have to run my FSB @ 500 :shrug:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/sonofander/Untitled-13.jpg


500 fsb on a quad! I love it :D

dinos22
03-23-2008, 07:06 AM
amazing :shocked:

anyways something is odd there

also don't use max volts unless you have to

sonofander
03-23-2008, 07:19 AM
amazing :shocked:

anyways something is odd there

also don't use max volts unless you have to


I have to! Anything less than 1.55 on SPP and 1.45 on FSB results in BSOD even at 450 fsb. I've tried systematically dropping volts and it always results in reboots. I've read that others just raise fsb w/out touching volts, but that's not my experience at all...

Maybe I just have a buggered board??? :)

slim142
03-23-2008, 08:06 AM
Wow I envy you sonofander!!!!! 2000:2000!!! thats pretty good if you ask me.

However, I can see a lot of people complaining about the default vdimm, how come I never heard about this on before boards from eVGA? (680i, 780i)

Also, does the board like to run in 1T at high frequencies? or is it just that sonofander has come golden sticks?

Big Myke
03-23-2008, 08:22 AM
how come dinos or other testers have not mentioned this at all before the release? hmmmmm *shakes head* Unless this will be a problem with boards after the release. Strikers better not have this problem...oh man oh man. Fander, I am very sorry that you are having these poor experiences with you board. With the pricey you pay you'd expect to use the features that came in the box. Have you made a thread on the evga forum about the problem? Any support?

sonofander
03-23-2008, 08:51 AM
how come dinos or other testers have not mentioned this at all before the release? hmmmmm *shakes head* Unless this will be a problem with boards after the release. Strikers better not have this problem...oh man oh man. Fander, I am very sorry that you are having these poor experiences with you board. With the pricey you pay you'd expect to use the features that came in the box. Have you made a thread on the evga forum about the problem? Any support?



If poor experience = 500 fsb on a quad w/ ram @ 2000 1T, then yeah, I'm having a terrible time with this board :rofl:

Seriously though, it does seem my board is a little quirky. Having some bigger problems now as it stopped running quad sli. With 2 9800 gx2s installed, I'm only registering 3 gpu cores. Each card installed individually shows 2 cores, but put them together and I only have 3.

Looks like I have an RMA in my not too distant future :(

slim142
03-23-2008, 09:04 AM
Sonofander, hopefully you keep in mind that an RMA might not achieve what you have done so far. 80% of the times happen that second boards dont do what the first did.

Do you think it might be drivers problem? Why dont you wait for next week for official quad drivers? Have you tried the new 170.70 leak?

And btw, now that I see your signature, can you tell me, are those thermaltake PSUs good? are they loud?

Big Myke
03-23-2008, 09:05 AM
not being able to unlock and having boot/stability issues is poor experience in my book I guess. I guess I read you wrong. enjoy being linked.;)

Leeghoofd
03-23-2008, 11:41 AM
If poor experience = 500 fsb on a quad w/ ram @ 2000 1T, then yeah, I'm having a terrible time with this board :rofl:

If ya need to max out every voltage, have how long will the board perform at this level do you think ? it are impressive speeds and would be nice to have it 24/7 at those but not with everything maxed out...

sonofander
03-23-2008, 11:45 AM
so I found the reason for the neccisarily high voltages... it's my ram timings!
as soon as I put my ram timings on auto, I'm perfectly stable @ 450FSB with all auto voltages (SPP, MCP, FSB)

what gives??? am I suppossed to run my ram all loosey goosey???

mem @ 1800 7-6-5 1T = maxed volts on NB & FSB

mem @ 1800 8-7-6 2T = all volts auto

sonofander
03-23-2008, 11:47 AM
If ya need to max out every voltage, have how long will the board perform at this level do you think ? it are impressive speeds and would be nice to have it 24/7 at those but not with everything maxed out...

I guess I'm just not used to nVidia chipset... max NB volts on this board are 1.55v. I'm used to having to run ~ 1.65v to stabalize my NB on an intel board, so even though I have it "maxed at 1.55v, it still feels low to me :shrug:

humeyboy
03-23-2008, 01:57 PM
Like the Striker Extreme and Striker II Formula, I bet you will find the Striker II Extreme will have far higher volts for all options.

Its just the fact you have a Nvidia Ref Mobo thats all.

Leeghoofd
03-23-2008, 02:15 PM
I guess I'm just not used to nVidia chipset... max NB volts on this board are 1.55v. I'm used to having to run ~ 1.65v to stabalize my NB on an intel board, so even though I have it "maxed at 1.55v, it still feels low to me :shrug:

Can you try 1800 7-7-7-20 1T ? does it still need max voltages then ? but 500FSB is pretty nic eman on a quad , wish I had one that did that :up:

Hows does the bandwith perform once you go over eg 400 ? can you check 400FSB x 9 with 450FSB x 8 ? and if possible keep ram at 1800Mhz...

thx for any input...

dinos22
03-23-2008, 02:39 PM
how come dinos or other testers have not mentioned this at all before the release? hmmmmm *shakes head* Unless this will be a problem with boards after the release. Strikers better not have this problem...oh man oh man. Fander, I am very sorry that you are having these poor experiences with you board. With the pricey you pay you'd expect to use the features that came in the box. Have you made a thread on the evga forum about the problem? Any support?

i don't have these issues obviously :shrug:

dinos22
03-23-2008, 02:40 PM
so I found the reason for the neccisarily high voltages... it's my ram timings!
as soon as I put my ram timings on auto, I'm perfectly stable @ 450FSB with all auto voltages (SPP, MCP, FSB)

what gives??? am I suppossed to run my ram all loosey goosey???

mem @ 1800 7-6-5 1T = maxed volts on NB & FSB

mem @ 1800 8-7-6 2T = all volts auto

heheheheheh
that's the problem

ppls trying to be too smart when OCing :p: :rofl:

slim142
03-23-2008, 06:21 PM
Can you try 1800 7-7-7-20 1T ? does it still need max voltages then ? but 500FSB is pretty nic eman on a quad , wish I had one that did that :up:

Hows does the bandwith perform once you go over eg 400 ? can you check 400FSB x 9 with 450FSB x 8 ? and if possible keep ram at 1800Mhz...

thx for any input...

Yeah I would like to know that too, memory bandwidth with FSB at 400, 450 and 500 if you could please, if possible at x9 with RAM at same level at all test to see memory bandwidth.

sonofander
03-23-2008, 07:38 PM
I can't run my ram in unlinked mode... What you guys are asking me to do is something I can't do... Sorry :(

I've given up on trying. I've gotten my ram to 2000 w/ fsb and stabalized it. Happy as piss about it too! Never thought that would happen with a quad. Honestly, I was about to dump it and grab an e8400 and roll with that...

Don't have to do that anymore!!! :D

sonofander
03-23-2008, 07:51 PM
another thing... Any word on a pencil mod for this board to get rid of the vdroop? Dinos???

funkflix
03-24-2008, 01:48 AM
Anyone here with a vmodded GTS or better two on a 790i board? I have some strange things going on here..

I'm 100% sure that both GTS are set to 1.333V idle before i put them on to the XFX board(tested on P35 and AMD 790FX), but now i measure just 1.118V in idle on both cards.. When i disable the mods then i measure just 0.996V in idle, thats less then the default specification for the GTS. :confused:

Hope someone can help me here!

Edit: Problem was a empty battery on my one DMM..

dinos22
03-24-2008, 02:17 AM
another thing... Any word on a pencil mod for this board to get rid of the vdroop? Dinos???

join this thread regarding volt mods
almost all complete but input is needed

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181677

LockBreaker
03-24-2008, 06:38 AM
Anyone here with a vmodded GTS or better two on a 790i board? I have some strange things going on here..

I'm 100% sure that both GTS are set to 1.333V idle before i put them on to the XFX board(tested on P35 and AMD 790FX), but now i measure just 1.118V in idle on both cards.. When i disable the mods then i measure just 0.996V in idle, thats less then the default specification for the GTS. :confused:

Hope someone can help me here!

Edit: Problem was a empty battery on my one DMM..

Many problems with your XFX 790i card? Thinking about bying the same one my self you see. :)

Someone who knows how the Striker II 790i bord works? More stable than the 780i version?

What about the temperatures? :)

k|ngp|n
03-24-2008, 07:28 AM
Anyone here with a vmodded GTS or better two on a 790i board? I have some strange things going on here..

I'm 100% sure that both GTS are set to 1.333V idle before i put them on to the XFX board(tested on P35 and AMD 790FX), but now i measure just 1.118V in idle on both cards.. When i disable the mods then i measure just 0.996V in idle, thats less then the default specification for the GTS. :confused:

Hope someone can help me here!

Edit: Problem was a empty battery on my one DMM..

Is your problem resolved then??

ww2717
03-24-2008, 07:42 AM
What online stores are selling this board in the usa?

my87csx481
03-24-2008, 07:44 AM
I have maped FSB holes on nF680/780 Asus Striker, Striker II Formula but on this nf790 there are not usual holes like before (400mhz for example) , i can set any FSB without problem ..... my OC is 550MHz without holes, but i am testing only 45nm cpus ... 65nm Kensfield cannot to be overclocked, in BIOS is some problem ...

Anyone else have this problem with Kentsfield? Has this been fixed? Thanks.

funkflix
03-24-2008, 07:44 AM
Is your problem resolved then??

Yeah. Thanks a lot for your responce anyway! My one GTS just suck.. Does only 848MHz.. :(

seamumc
03-24-2008, 08:55 AM
Hi

Is anyone running 4Gb DDR3 1800Mhz on this board. Have 2Gb OCZ 1800 with asus 790i ultra, but thought read somewhere is problem with 4X1Gb modules @1800??!!

The 790i only supports 1801+ in the two black slots. IOW only two sticks of any speed over 1800 are supported.

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 11:14 AM
Many problems with your XFX 790i card? Thinking about bying the same one my self you see. :)

Someone who knows how the Striker II 790i bord works? More stable than the 780i version?

What about the temperatures? :)

I'm currently having a lot of trouble getting the Striker II Extreme to run with any FSB overclock over 350... the system passes all the torture tests with flying colours, 7+ hours ORTHOS blend, 2 hours OCCT Mix. But then the system randomly shuts down, BSOD, programs randomly terminates, and especially likely when running 3DMark06, PCMark Vantage and shutting down the PC. Latest BIOS and relaxing the memory timing don't help, raising all voltages made it even worse... Very disappointed. :shakes:

I have since ordered a EVGA 790i Ultra as replacement until better BIOS fix the Asus Mobo.. :down:

nordicdiver
03-24-2008, 02:26 PM
Question,
My online store have got a few evga 790i in stock tonite! They also have the Asus 790i in stock soon. Can't make up my mind about the two, same price on the boards. Need some help making a decision.
Thanks
Jan

gastoncapo
03-24-2008, 04:50 PM
Question,
My online store have got a few evga 790i in stock tonite! They also have the Asus 790i in stock soon. Can't make up my mind about the two, same price on the boards. Need some help making a decision.
Thanks
Jan

evga 790i all the way!!!!

Aivas47a
03-24-2008, 07:15 PM
But check out this blog post from FCG over at anandtech: 500 fsb stable on yorkfield, Asus 790i (plus 2000 mhz with 8gb of ram).

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=419

dinos22
03-24-2008, 07:45 PM
I'm currently having a lot of trouble getting the Striker II Extreme to run with any FSB overclock over 350... the system passes all the torture tests with flying colours, 7+ hours ORTHOS blend, 2 hours OCCT Mix. But then the system randomly shuts down, BSOD, programs randomly terminates, and especially likely when running 3DMark06, PCMark Vantage and shutting down the PC. Latest BIOS and relaxing the memory timing don't help, raising all voltages made it even worse... Very disappointed. :shakes:

I have since ordered a EVGA 790i Ultra as replacement until better BIOS fix the Asus Mobo.. :down:

what the heck
are you sure it updated properly >> try clearing cmos and battery for a few hours

OBR was :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing all the way to eternity until he flashed to the latest bios and then everything improved enormously :confused:

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 08:24 PM
But check out this blog post from FCG over at anandtech: 500 fsb stable on yorkfield, Asus 790i (plus 2000 mhz with 8gb of ram).

http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=419

Just had a read through... The results seem mighty impressive. However until they post their BIOS settings and I'm able to duplicate their results, I remain skeptical to the Asus S2E.


what the heck
are you sure it updated properly >> try clearing cmos and battery for a few hours

OBR was :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing all the way to eternity until he flashed to the latest bios and then everything improved enormously :confused:

I am using the latest BIOS I could find, version 0507, and at stock setting it is 100% stable. I am reluctant to reset the CMOS, as every time I do that I have to disassemble my watercooling, replace my QX9650 with a Core2Duo, take out a stick of ram just for the system to POST and increase the ram voltage. And trust me, I have done it enough times to streamline the whole process.:rolleyes:

The problem I find is that everywhere people are reporting that their reference 790i are overclocking demons, and very little voltage has to be raised to achieve 450-500Mhz FSB, where most are set to AUTO.

That is VERY far from what the Asus S2E is doing... after you run hours of torture tests, are are happy with its stability, it BSOD on you launching a web browser, a game, or restarting the PC. :brick:

I am currently running the system with 333FSB, 12x Multi, and 909 Mem. 100% stable.

dinos22
03-24-2008, 08:30 PM
that's shocking (are you sure you are not over tightening your waterblock) >> talking about your bios clearing issues aside from other stuff eek

i don't think you'll have those issues with reference boards to be honest unless you are overtightening or something :shrug:

you also don't need to be too clever when OCing as nvidia engineers have some some good ground work to improve OCing and make it very easy .> leave volts at auto (only set vcore/vdimm) and let it rip :up:

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 08:55 PM
that's shocking (are you sure you are not over tightening your waterblock) >> talking about your bios clearing issues aside from other stuff eek

i don't think you'll have those issues with reference boards to be honest unless you are overtightening or something :shrug:

Thats what I hope with the EVGA I've ordered, and the waterblock is spring pressured and with back plate so not much stress on the Mobo. :up:


you also don't need to be too clever when OCing as nvidia engineers have some some good ground work to improve OCing and make it very easy .> leave volts at auto (only set vcore/vdimm) and let it rip :up:
On auto was the first thing I did on the Asus board reading all those posts on how its ability to control the volts is awsome, but no go on the Asus. The pinnicle of its stability was with upped Core/vdimm and VTT, with the rest on auto. Hope the EVGA will be much better in that reguard. :D

tekjunkie
03-24-2008, 09:10 PM
@ Eternal, are you sure it's not your RAM. I kinda vividly remember seeing some post about 790i and cellshocks not working well together here @ XS.

dinos22
03-24-2008, 09:21 PM
@ Eternal, are you sure it's not your RAM. I kinda vividly remember seeing some post about 790i and cellshocks not working well together here @ XS.

even after cmos clear though :confused:

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 09:24 PM
@ Eternal, are you sure it's not your RAM. I kinda vividly remember seeing some post about 790i and cellshocks not working well together here @ XS.

Don't take it the wrong way me quoting myself, but here it is;



I am using the latest BIOS I could find, version 0507, and at stock setting it is 100% stable...

....I am currently running the system with 333FSB, 12x Multi, and 909 Mem. 100% stable.

Also if CellShock don't work with 790i... it will cause havoc here in Xtremesys, as from what I can see almost 1 in 3 DDR3 memory here are CellShock branded.:D


edit: Also note that the board is absolutely flawless. At its default settings, that is. It is another story once overclocked.

canislupy
03-24-2008, 09:31 PM
The problem is that it will not post the cellshock at all, the workaround (this was for the EVGA 790i anyway, dunno about the Asus) is to use crap DDR3 RAM, POST, set RAM volts up to cellshock supported, then swap in cellshock. I get my crucial crap kit tomorrow to try for myself. Sonofander was the one who is running the cellshock withe the EVGA, and IIRC he is running it at 500MHz FSB.

dinos22
03-24-2008, 09:34 PM
must be something in cellshock SPD cause i have no issues with corsairs

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 09:35 PM
The problem is that it will not post the cellshock at all, the workaround (this was for the EVGA 790i anyway, dunno about the Asus) is to use crap DDR3 RAM, POST, set RAM volts up to cellshock supported, then swap in cellshock. I get my crucial crap kit tomorrow to try for myself. Sonofander was the one who is running the cellshock withe the EVGA, and IIRC he is running it at 500MHz FSB.

Oh yeah I also have that problem after a CMOS reset, as mentioned previously. However once the voltage is set the memory runs flawlessly.

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 09:36 PM
must be something in cellshock SPD cause i have no issues with corsairs

Exactly. In the CellShock the SPD is set to 1800Mhz 8-7-6-21, 1.5V... :rolleyes:

edit typo

dinos22
03-24-2008, 09:37 PM
Exactly. In the CellShock the SPD is set to 1800Mgz 8-7-6-21, 1.5V... :rolleyes:

well that makes sense now heheheh

does SPD tool work with DDR3?
you could edit the timings to 9-9-9-24

canislupy
03-24-2008, 09:38 PM
Those wacky Germans....

jcniest5
03-24-2008, 09:38 PM
Does anybody know if PC3-8500 (1066) memory work on the 790i board or do I really have to get PC3-1333 or better?

eternal_fantasy
03-24-2008, 09:51 PM
well that makes sense now heheheh

does SPD tool work with DDR3?
you could edit the timings to 9-9-9-24

Don't know, as it wont run under Vista 64-bit :ROTF: