ek supreme and bitpower 3/8 5/8 1/8 wall fittings.

[disruptfam]

KK these fittings don't fit the d-tek fuzion.I was wondering if they would fit they ek supreme with no troubles.Spacing looks wide enough in pic's but i would like to be sure before i order the block.

Can anyone post a pic and measurement between the two barbs

:up: cheers

[C'DaleRider]

Here's a pic comparing a D-Tek and EK Supreme with 3/8" EK barbs installed.....

https://bobscapecodfudge.sslpowered.com/bobscapecodfudge.com/parts/barbs.jpg


Appears to my completely imprecise measurements that there is, measured from inside barb edge to inside barb edge (closest edges to one another at the top opening), 7/16" between the openings on the D-Tek and 3/4" on the EK.


Here's where I measured....sorry for the crudeness of it....

https://bobscapecodfudge.sslpowered.com/bobscapecodfudge.com/parts/barbs2.jpg

[disruptfam]

cheers mate!!!

looks like my bitpower 1/8 wall will fit on the ek supreme :)

they don't fit on a fuzion

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72734&stc=1&d=1203640095

pictures by bp-vincent @ bitpower

[Tripps]

I figured this out tonight as well.. Oh well, I guess I'll have to learn to live without them on the Fuzion, already bought it. :(

[disruptfam]

i would if rather ed keeping my fuzion but seeing how my bro has 1 on order i will just give him my fuzion for his supreme no biggie for me.

If i had no other choice i would just used different fittings on the block i think

[NaeKuh]

i would if rather ed keeping my fuzion but seeing how my bro has 1 on order i will just give him my fuzion for his supreme no biggie for me.

If i had no other choice i would just used different fittings on the block i think


just a quick note disrupt. Nikhsub tested the ek with a rd-30 @ 18V.

I also noticed where it would out pace the fusion @ 18V and scales wonderfully to 21V.

Now there isnt a single pump out there that can match an RD-30 @ 18V, so your going to need to dual up on them to get our results.

And i have 2 EK supreme's. And my next setup will use dual DDC-3.2's just for that loop. So just giving you a heads up if you plan on going with this block.

Also the accelerators need to be cleaned. They come very messy at the factory.

Heres what i mean..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0848.jpg

So i would take that thing apart and clean it up with some 1000 grit sand paper.

[disruptfam]

cpu will be on it's own loop worked out to be 1.27gmp.. will it still perform well with that flow rate?

I already have 3 pumps in my rig i don't think i want 4 although i could fit 4 i'de rather not lol

cheers

can you link me to this testing please

[NaeKuh]

cpu will be on it's own loop worked out to be 1.27gmp.. will it still perform well with that flow rate?

I already have 3 pumps in my rig i don't think i want 4 although i could fit 4 i'de rather not lol

cheers

can you link me to this testing please

cant tell for sure how well it would work out.

But yeah, im guessing at least head output on dual 3.2's is going to be needed for you to outpace the fusion.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0842.jpg

This aint no free flowing block here.

[disruptfam]

damn so i would need atleast 2 pumps to outdo the fuzion

How far perf wise would i be with 1 pump? i thought it was around 1-2c behind the fuzion (1 pump)

[NaeKuh]

damn so i would need atleast 2 pumps to outdo the fuzion

How far perf wise would i be with 1 pump? i thought it was around 1-2c behind the fuzion (1 pump)

that i couldnt tell ya.

martin has my second one on him right now b4 i even opened the box. But according to his flow test, it placed it right on mark with a 4.5mm fusion nozzle. LOL...

and you know how dayam restrictive that sucker is.

Scott's tests were done on a RD-30. I am also using it on an RD-30.

But yeah, id need be, id have that second pump on standbye at least.

[disruptfam]

If 1 pumps still performs decent i will have to stick with that.1-2c imo is ok

I'll talk to martin....

2 pumps is out of the question atm.But i will see

[NaeKuh]

If 1 pumps still performs decent i will have to stick with that.1-2c imo is ok

I'll talk to martin....

2 pumps is out of the question atm.But i will see

21V outpaced my bowed apogeeGTX by 4-5C :stick:

[disruptfam]

can you link me to niks testing?

I understand dual pumps will get me better results but thats a option for me atm.

two pumps will get me 1.78gpm

[Martinm210]

can you link me to niks testing?

I understand dual pumps will get me better results but thats a option for me atm.

two pumps will get me 1.78gpm

You know this pumping power issue that is appearing is all the more reason I want to eventually setup of a c/w testing die/bench or at least a CPU test bench and start plotting flow rate results.

Makes me wonder if c/w curves for highly restrictive and nozzled type blocks is much steeper beyond 1 GPM than many of the published results for things like the stock fuzion or apogee GTX.

1-2C for a jump in flow rate because of dual pumps is really important to understand. I've always been telling people if they have at least 1 GPM that it doesn't really matter what your flow rate is. But that's not looking like the case here....

Perhaps a new thermal curve trend occuring on these extremely restrictive setups..:confused:

Maybe the Fuzion with nozzle has a similar steeper curve as well...might have to revise the rule of thumb on flow rate...

[disruptfam]

yeah i was working off the 1gpm rule aswell..now i don't know

[Snyxxx]

All this pumping power talk reminds me of the good ol' Storm / DDC2 days.

DDC2 FTW. Forget reliability - go performance.

[IanY]

Hey Naekuh,

Talk to me like I'm a two year old. I'm just an immigrant and my English is probably whacked... And I'm psycho and I ran out of Prozac.

You are saying that, using one RD30 at 18V, the EK Supreme cpu block outpaces a D-Tek FuZion with quad nozzle ?

Am I hearing this correctly? My ears are shot as well.. so you have to pardon me....

And pardon my Tony Soprano imitations.. but I don't got no problems with flow... just double up on the sucker... or if you are a sick puppy, quad them up.

[LogAn'sRun]

cheers mate!!!

looks like my bitpower 1/8 wall will fit on the ek supreme :)

they don't fit on a fuzion

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72734&stc=1&d=1203640095

pictures by bp-vincent @ bitpower

AHHH!!!! Now you tell me, after I went through the trouble of finding these bad boys in China. . grrrr.

So wait now, they fit the EK, but are you all saying that the EK won't preform the same as the Fuzion with only 1 DDC3,2??

If that's the case, looks like I'll be using barbs on the FuZion then and the BP's on the rad and mcw 60.

[Xilikon]

Just to throw a wrench in the mix, I used a sample tubing of R-3400 3/8" ID 5/8" OD on the 3/8" D-Tek barbs (I took both ends on both barbs of my block). I let it sit for some time while I'm messing with others things and when I wanted to remove it to put it aside, I had a hell of a time trying to remove them off the barbs. It's at least twice as hard as my old Excelon tubing so I bet it wouldn't leak at all...

Just try to find a way to have a very nice clamp or just risk without any clamping just on the Fuzion block. For the rest, use BitsPower fittings.

At least, it's a good thing I learned about this and I wanted to keep my Fuzion so I would order 2 less for my loop.

[disruptfam]

anyone with a supreme cpu loop ddc 3.2 w/top

post temps on a quad?

[shazza]

I think we've pretty much answered the question on whether the 3/8" BP fittings will work with the EK Supreme, but thought you might be interested to see a pic of the Supreme with the 1/2" ID/ 3/4" OD compression fittings:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/shazzasmd/ekbpfit2.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/shazzasmd/ekbpfit1.jpg


They actually fit okay. Looks a little funky because one hangs over the side of the top a bit, but at least they fit.

[LogAn'sRun]

well, that's nice to see that they fit the EK.

I do have some bad news though, they DO NOT fit the MCW-60 at all. I'm too tired now, but I'll post pics of that either in my project thread or here, so that you can see what I mean. . . .

[disruptfam]

man i don't think there not going to fit my 680i nb block and my nf4 rev 1.1 block :(

[barfastic]

cpu will be on it's own loop worked out to be 1.27gmp.. will it still perform well with that flow rate?

I already have 3 pumps in my rig i don't think i want 4 although i could fit 4 i'de rather not lol

Disrupt, if u go quad loop that will be like CRAZY... hehehe.

[NysoO]

I think we've pretty much answered the question on whether the 3/8" BP fittings will work with the EK Supreme, but thought you might be interested to see a pic of the Supreme with the 1/2" ID/ 3/4" OD compression fittings:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/shazzasmd/ekbpfit2.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/shazzasmd/ekbpfit1.jpg


They actually fit okay. Looks a little funky because one hangs over the side of the top a bit, but at least they fit.

Cool, Im a bit surpriced to see that it is such a tight fit though. Those barbs must be quite big, hu?

[shazza]

They are HUGE. They came in yesterday, and I figured I was going to have to reconsider my tubing/fitting options. The Supreme came in today, and I was surprised to see they fit. Remember, these are for 1/2" ID / 3/4" OD tubing, so not the smaller ones disruptfam was talking about.

[disruptfam]

talk about big!!!!!

I'm wondering if mine will fit my ek nb sb blocks????

[Tripps]

Do you think using an extension such as this one would help to put those on a Fuzion? I already have the compression fittings and the Fuzion and would like to use them. Anyone had experiences with these things?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2295/ex-tub-37/Innovatek_Fitting_Extension_501102.html?tl=g30c101 s179

[NaeKuh]

Hey Naekuh,

Talk to me like I'm a two year old. I'm just an immigrant and my English is probably whacked... And I'm psycho and I ran out of Prozac.

You are saying that, using one RD30 at 18V, the EK Supreme cpu block outpaces a D-Tek FuZion with quad nozzle ?

Am I hearing this correctly? My ears are shot as well.. so you have to pardon me....

And pardon my Tony Soprano imitations.. but I don't got no problems with flow... just double up on the sucker... or if you are a sick puppy, quad them up.

Well i havent tried it on the same bench.

But i am saying that by pumping my pump 21V on my RD-30 my temps droped between 4-5C on my ek supreme compared to my BOWED ApogeeGTX @ 18V-25V

The added flow didnt help for jack on the GTX.


Disrupt you still going the 780i route? Or did you migrate to this setup?
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0882.jpg

[IanY]

No... not the GTX.. not that.

I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that the EK Supreme can touch a D-Tek FuZion nozzled and washered and pro mounted, let alone beat it. I see a lot of focus on what looks good.. but....

[disruptfam]

i was under the impression ek supreme was about 2c - 3c behind the nozzled quad fuzion.

[disruptfam]

i'm still undecided on what route i will be going...

Waiting for nvidia's new high end stuff to come out before i decide..

x38
dual 3870x2's

or 780i

dual XXXXXX

[NysoO]

i'm still undecided on what route i will be going...

Waiting for nvidia's new high end stuff to come out before i decide..

x38
dual 3870x2's

or 780i

dual XXXXXX

Or dual 4870 x2

[LogAn'sRun]

here's the pics of those BP fittings on the MCW 60

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/logansfar/logans076.jpg



This pic is a little bad, but I tried to show the difference in clearance between 'normal' fittings and the BP's. What you really can't see is the metal plate will not fit with the BP's screwed all the way in. And if you put two of them together, forget. Very similiar to the FuZion issue. .

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/logansfar/logans078.jpg


Shame, I had high hopes for these. Amazing fittings, but you have to choose your blocks very carefully.

[Xilikon]

If I had to choose between fittings and blocks, I would just pick the blocks and get barbs instead. It's a shame blocks isn't designed with those compression fittings in mind :(

[Mekrel]

No way, not what I wanted to hear.

What about D-Tek FuZion GPU block?

[disruptfam]

do these fit your ek chipset blocks mekrel?

[Mekrel]

I no longer own those blocks, sorry mate. They fit the DangerDen MPC block though.

[LogAn'sRun]

If I had to choose between fittings and blocks, I would just pick the blocks and get barbs instead. It's a shame blocks isn't designed with those compression fittings in mind :(

Yeah, that's kind of where I am now. I have one of the best performing CPU blocks (fuzion w/pro mount) and I'm not too keen on spending £44 plus shipping just to get the Aqua Comuter DI, or £30 to get the EK; just to use BP fittings. And add the fact of spending more money to get reducers to fit the PA rads (and Mcmaster just sent me an email saying they no longer ship international), and buying a new GPU block.

So let's see, spend oh I don't know, another £100 or so on blocks for BP fittings, or use all the top performers that I own, with normal fittings. I'm actually really bummed out about this, because the quality, weight, ease of use, favor heavily the BP's, but right now I can't justify spending that much more on all new blocks to make these work.

Someone may have to bend my arm a little. . .

[disruptfam]

looks like where all in the same boat...

[FallenCow]

Logan... sorry if i missed it somewhere, but what size fittings are those on the MCW60?

[LogAn'sRun]

np, they're the same ones in the thread title 3/8"id 5/8"od with 1/8"wall fittings.

[FallenCow]

Shame, that's the exact size I wanted to use for my next rebuild.

[BP-Vincent]

Hi all...We are thinking about add extra parts to make all our compression fittings fit all blaocks..

[BP-Vincent]

here's the pics of those BP fittings on the MCW 60

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/logansfar/logans076.jpg



This pic is a little bad, but I tried to show the difference in clearance between 'normal' fittings and the BP's. What you really can't see is the metal plate will not fit with the BP's screwed all the way in. And if you put two of them together, forget. Very similiar to the FuZion issue. .

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh166/logansfar/logans078.jpg


Shame, I had high hopes for these. Amazing fittings, but you have to choose your blocks very carefully.


You need add an extra adapter and then you can use our compression fitting on MCW60...the parts we call ST transfer base.you will see how to use that..

[Xilikon]

Is that something with a end off-center so you can get more clearance ?

[lennox]

I think the extension just allows you to clear the metal plate on MCW60

[BP-Vincent]

I show step by step as below..the final one will be in perfect sealed status...

[Xilikon]

Oh, I hoped it would be off-center to fit the Fuzion block :( I can always dream ;)

[BP-Vincent]

We heared that...we are doing this...off-center rotary adapter coming soon...

[disruptfam]

very nice mate!!!!

good work vincent

[FallenCow]

Vincent...when will that be available for the mcw60?

[BP-Vincent]

Which one...ST transfer base or???

[FallenCow]

The adapters you used to fit the fittings on the mcw60.

[BP-Vincent]

It's what we call ST transfer base(ST transfer Adapter), now it's available in Stainless but Silver Shining one will be available in next week...

[disruptfam]

could we get a pick of this mate?

[BP-Vincent]

Here it is...but is in Stainless...

[disruptfam]

We heared that...we are doing this...off-center rotary adapter coming soon...

please let us know when these will be available.Any eta?

I need a few of them

as two don't fit on my chipset blocks

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/disruptfam/Adamsworklog028.jpg

cheers

[FuriousSalesman]

Where is an online store I can get my paws on these. I just might delay my build again just for these.

[BP-Vincent]

Where is an online store I can get my paws on these. I just might delay my build again just for these.

We will ready Silver Shining ST Transfer Adapter for Worldwild market within two week.

Stainless series only acceptable in Taiwan/Hong Kong...We don't know why:(


please let us know when these will be available.Any eta?

I need a few of them

as two don't fit on my chipset blocks

cheers

We are checking the design within next three days...Hope it can be ready after Cebit..I Hope...:)

[LogAn'sRun]

I have some on the way, soon as they show up, I'll post some pics
(sometimes it's good to be on the fast track. . )

[FallenCow]

Looks like i'll be delaying my build to get a couple of those adapters!

[Pete]

Also the accelerators need to be cleaned. They come very messy at the factory.

Heres what i mean..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_0848.jpg

So i would take that thing apart and clean it up with some 1000 grit sand paper.

Thats splatter from it being laser cut and is really really bad that it has been left there as it's sharp and very uneven and can pinch the o-rings. Bad bad Eddy.

Oh if that was on any part of the undercargie of an airplane you'd die on landing, the splatter would casuse an oxidisation fracture on the material and then load then just split it open and ka boom ya 6 ft under. Part of my job is removing of splatter

[Statts]

The problem with the compression fittings not fitting on MCW60....

1) Is that 1/2" only or 1/2" AND 3/8"?
2) Is that only when G80 adaptor plate is needed for MCW60?