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NysoO
02-12-2008, 02:21 PM
Will this work as for bleeding?

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/autosavett4ed3e258.jpg?78466

Meatpuppet
02-12-2008, 02:29 PM
Don't quite understand. Are you planning on leaving that barb open permenantly or does the black line extending from it signify tubing of some sort? Either way it will bleed as well as any other T-line with the added benefit that filling the loop will be a cynch as you wont have to worry about the coolant fleeing backy up the fill line.

IanY
02-12-2008, 02:39 PM
I don't see why not, except that your "T-Line" is incredibly short.

NysoO
02-12-2008, 02:48 PM
Thanks. Well I think it would be quite smart, as it will be really easy to get water into the pump. The T-line may be a bit short, but I think it is enough to be able to bleed.
Updated the picture..

FallenCow
02-12-2008, 03:03 PM
Looks like it might be troublesome to fill since it's so short.

biglipzit
02-12-2008, 04:11 PM
Does one rad blow hot air into the other rad?
:S

NysoO
02-13-2008, 05:49 AM
Kind of yeah, but if you want things to look good, you may need to sacrifice a few degrees. I mean, the difference in temperature is not TOO high after the air has went through the rad.
This is how it has to be done if you want to cram in two loops in a small case. It's like with the TJ07.

septim
02-13-2008, 06:28 AM
basically its in oneside case, out the other side case...

looks especially hard to bleed....

leo_bsb
02-13-2008, 10:10 AM
I would try a top/reservoir combo in your build, just wait for martin's test and you can buy the best one.

leo_bsb
02-13-2008, 10:12 AM
also you may try to fit a shroud in the place of the middle fans.

Sparky
02-13-2008, 10:34 AM
man that looks like it would be extremely difficult to bleed as the water doesn't really pass through that area, just past by it totally.

NysoO
02-13-2008, 11:00 AM
Sparky, that is what I was thinking, maybe the bubbles will just flow by the T-line, making it hard to bleed. So a Top combo maybe would be better. Unsure though how it would fit in the case.

Leo, why do you think that I should try to fit a shroud?

Xilikon
02-13-2008, 11:06 AM
Yes, a better idea would be to fit a EK DDC X-Res.

NysoO
02-13-2008, 11:50 AM
Some more pictures for you to criticize:

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/autosavejtttt2.jpg?22827

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/autosave5tttt2.jpg?20563

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/autosavet8ttt2.jpg?16755

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/autosavett9tt2.jpg?3544

http://bandwidth.se/imgs/39/0/autosavetttt92.jpg?77614

I was thinking of mounting the rads on some kind of sliders for easy mounting and maintance. Yeah, there are quite a few elbows but I think the head pressure of the DDC's will compensate.

Sparky
02-13-2008, 12:50 PM
I haven't though of a routing idea for the bleeding yet, but I came up with something to help remove at least a couple elbows. Turn the pump tops so the outlets are pointed towards where you want the tubing to go (when looking at them from the top, turn them 90 degrees to the left). Might have to move the pump over slightly for the tubing to clear. That would remove 1 elbow on each loop. Also, on the PA120.3, route the tubing from the pump to the bottom port of the rad, not the top, that'll aid in removing air from the system, at least when filling.

What software is that? If it is free I should get it so I can show you what I mean, might make more sense than writing it all out.

Meatpuppet
02-13-2008, 12:53 PM
Nice CAD. After seeing the updated pictures, I am under the impression that what I had initially assumed was an open barb for exhaust is actually just the inlet to the pump coming from something in the uper area. In light of this, bleeding the loop with your "offset T" is going to be a royal pain. Additionally, since your fillport is in the middle of the case, filling the loop will be a huge pain as well since you will only be able to gravity fill the lower chamber and you are going to be working with a tiny amount of liquid before the pump runs dry. All things considered, I would strongly consider extending the T-lines, and if you move the T-lines into the regular flow of the loop rather than being an offshoot, the system will bleed much easier.

NysoO
02-13-2008, 01:03 PM
Sparky, the program I use is called sketchup. Really nice software for designing cases and check if things are going to work or not. You can download it directly from google. Let me know if you want to have the 3d file.

Meatpuppet, I understand what you mean, and I think that i'm going to skip the T line idea here, and instead go with a reservoir, possibly the Ek top-reservoir combo.

Sparky
02-13-2008, 01:06 PM
yes please send me the file... sparkyjjo {at} g mail {dot] com

I'll dl sketchup and see what I can do, either late this evening or sometime tomorrow afternoon.

Nate P.
02-13-2008, 03:24 PM
man that looks like it would be extremely difficult to bleed as the water doesn't really pass through that area, just past by it totally.
You could tip the case so the air would go to the T-line.