F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK comptible motherboard list --4/15/08 updated--

[GSKILL TECH]

all tested with 8GB 4DIMM DDR2 1066 2v


------------------Download PDF user manual (http://www.gskill.us/166.pdf)------------------


GSKILL official compatible motherboards

Abit IX38
Abit IP35-E
Abit IP35
Abit IP35 Pro
Asus X38 Maximus Formula
Asus P5K Deluxe
Asus Striker II Formula
Asus X48 Rampage Formula
Evga 780i
Gigabyte P35 / EP35 DS3 series.
Gigabyte X38 DS4
Gigabyte X38 / EX38 DQ6
Gigabyte X48 DQ6


Customer feedback compatible motherboard

DFi X38 LP LT X38 TR2



incompatible motherboards

Asus P5N-D
Asus Commando
Asus P5B-Deluxe


if you having some issue install Vista 64bit with over 3GB of memory, please read this article
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777





update @ 4/15/08

[Cronos]

Would be great if you also post your definition of "compatibility" cos there may be different definitions of "stability".

[GSKILL TECH]

Compatibility means motherboard takes this memory no problem to run in our rated speed.

most the incompatible motherboards will not boot at the memory rated speed. Even if it boot, it will not load into windows.

we use SP2004 blend with memtest at the same time to make sure all memory address used.

moreover, if memory unstable, system will not pass sp2004 with memtest.

We saw your suggestion but to us that is overkill for memory test

thank you

[Cronos]

Thank you, this was really eye opening.

[ppcli]

i order in 2 x 4 gig kits,not sure if its the 902 bios or its the asus striker 2 formula.hit and miss if it wants to post.have you guys tested it yet?

[GSKILL TECH]

i order in 2 x 4 gig kits,not sure if its the 902 bios or its the asus striker 2 formula.hit and miss if it wants to post.have you guys tested it yet?
not yet
but Asus p5n-d 750i has problem to reach 1066 even with micron d9. no matter it is 4 dimm or 2 dimm installed.

evga 780i is good with our ram. for daily use, evga 780i is better choice

[Spyrus]

Could you post the auto values inspected by memset just for reference?
Thank you.
I have formula if possible.

[GSKILL TECH]

Could you post the auto values inspected by memset just for reference?
Thank you.
I have formula if possible.
we will have it in PDF soon

[MacClipper]

Dfi P35 LanParty
Does this mean the whole series? I have the DK P35 model and thinking of going for a 4 x 2GB setup.

[pee4]

all tested with 8GB 4DIMM DDR2 1066 2v

compatible motherboards (PDF manual will be out soon)

Abit IX38
Asus X38 Maximus Formula
Asus P5K Deluxe


update @ 2/14/08


Hi

I have a Maximus Formula (bios 0906) with GSkill 8500 2x2GB.

I cannot get it to post with both sticks of RAM in the computer. Either stick alone is no problem. The LCD poster freezes at "DET DRAM".

I have manually set the bios as follows:

RAM volts = 2.1
1066mhz
2T
5-5-5-15

Any help appreciated. Motherboard currently sitting on bench with only a video card, keyboard and mouse plugged in.

I have achieved post by booting RAM at 800mhz but this produces a constant stream of errors in Memtest86+ v2.0.

Have I got faulty hardware?

Thanks

[Spyrus]

can you set tRFC at 52? This is the major impact on Asus.
Also post your fully timings.

[pee4]

can you set tRFC at 52? This is the major impact on Asus.
Also post your fully timings.

Hi Spyrus,

Thanks for the reply. Please find my bios settings below.

I'm at 266 FSB (not overclocked yet) with a Q6600 (eventually I will be at 400 FSB or just above because that's what it ran at in my last motherboard).

I have tried tRFC at AUTO and at 42. 42 is the highest value I can select on the Maximus Formula.

Transaction Booster and DRAM Static are both at AUTO. But I have tried with both of those disabled. I have also tried with the Northbridge voltage at 1.65v and with the RAM voltage at 2.2v.

The RAM works perfectly in my friend's P5E.

Thanks.





Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
FSB Frequency : 266
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO (also tried 42)
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[.OCX]

Hi

I have a Maximus Formula (bios 0906) with GSkill 8500 2x2GB.

I cannot get it to post with both sticks of RAM in the computer. Either stick alone is no problem. The LCD poster freezes at "DET DRAM".

I have manually set the bios as follows:

RAM volts = 2.1
1066mhz
2T
5-5-5-15

Any help appreciated. Motherboard currently sitting on bench with only a video card, keyboard and mouse plugged in.

I have achieved post by booting RAM at 800mhz but this produces a constant stream of errors in Memtest86+ v2.0.

Have I got faulty hardware?

Thanks

I get "DETDRAM" as well on Cold Boots, Restarts, and pretty much whenever the RAM just doesn't want to behave properly. Search my posts, you'll be able to see easily. Seeing this RAM on the QVL list was one of the reasons I decided to go with the 4GB PK.

Just today, restarted my PC to lower vcore and NBv which should be no problem to post, and DETDRAM. Remove HK's, put in ddr2-800 stick to go into Bios and restore settings. Restart, unplug, put in HK's and DETDRAM. Restart, DETDRAM. Put in 800 stick, up vdimm, restart, put in HK's and sometimes it will POST. Then I pretty much work with that until I ABSOLUTELY have to restart. Regardless of voltages on vdimm,nbv,vcore. I even tried bumping the DDR2 Reference Volts up +10mv on each channel.

Heard part of the bug is SPD table related because of the huge variance in default vcore on 800 vs. 1066 2.35v on 2GB HK's.

The HK's for me involved buying a 3rd stick of RAM to set the bios properly. Even then, DETDRAM, voltages go to default, have to remove the RAM and recalibrate with 800, to get it to POST.

That is not have it is suppose to work. Board defaults to ddr2-800 1.9v, SPD Table should too. So I requested an RMA today for my 2GB HK's, and I'm gonna pray that DETDRAM is a non-issue with these 4GB PKs.

Oh man I hope this isn't the case. Hopefully it's just user error on some bios setting like Trans Booster being disabled-0 for 333 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168119), and enabled-0 for 400.

[Spyrus]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2777780&postcount=5537

This might be helpful. For 2x2GB sticks try the combinations for PL=tRD=8 first and then try for PL=7.

You have many auto values.
Try these:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
FSB Frequency : 266
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO (Really that will do it you can check that with memset or bios if is 52)
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Level : 2

CPU Voltage : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55V
DRAM Voltage : 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

But you will have more luck especially with strap 333 and divider 5:6 bringing memories on 1000+. Put definitely auto at tRFC.

[.OCX]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2777780&postcount=5537

This might be helpful. For 2x2GB sticks try the combinations for PL=tRD=8 first and then try for PL=7.


Handy chart for figuring out Performance levels, I'm currently giving it another go after see that.

Edit: DETDRAM on Cold Boot still and issue. SPD Tables are too low for this to boot on 1.9v even defaulting to 800. I can reboot just fine, trying to Cold Boot is a no go. Once everything defaults due to failed overclock, DETDRAM on Boot up.

[Spyrus]

Put them on white slots.

[doakh]

Are they compatible with Asus P5E X38 chipset? I would guess they are as the Maximus Formula is and they are fairly similar.

[Spyrus]

Handy chart for figuring out Performance levels, I'm currently giving it another go after see that.

Edit: DETDRAM on Cold Boot still and issue. SPD Tables are too low for this to boot on 1.9v even defaulting to 800. I can reboot just fine, trying to Cold Boot is a no go. Once everything defaults due to failed overclock, DETDRAM on Boot up.

I had also warm boot issues and that is done at certain fsb/divider/multiplier combinations.

For example tried 9x450@540 boots/reboots fine
8x450@540 reboot no go & 9x449@538 no reboot / boot.
So try to change a little fsb +/-1,2

[.OCX]

I did some experimenting today...

Calibration Stick: Super Talent 800 on QVL
Memory: 2GB 1066HK

Slots:A1 A2 B1 B2
using 444x9 ddr2-1183 400 Strap
Performance level 7,8,9 have no effect on stability past DETDRAM. :(

-Put 800 stick in A2
-Failed Overclock, Enter Bios, Change nothing...hit F10
-Save then Restarts
-Pull Power Cord before it boots the Overclock settings.
-Take out 800 completely.
-Put in GSkills in A2 and B1
-Power Up Computer, Mobo Shuts down with new SPD
-I then Pulled the Plug before it Powers up again.
-Put B1 stick in B2 slot for DC mode.
-Plug in Cable, Power Up PC
-PC POSTs and passes DETDRAM.

I've heard of the B1 slot trick, is this along those same lines?

[.OCX]

all tested with 8GB 4DIMM DDR2 1066 2v

compatible motherboards (PDF manual will be out soon)

Asus X38 Maximus Formula


Confirmed Compatibility. :)

-No more DETDRAM issues.
-Boot even on Failed Overclocks at default 1.8v Max Formula uses.
-333 Strap currently Testing: Will push tonight.:up:
-All Timings on Auto on DRAM @ 1.98~2.1v
-tRFC 52 on Auto
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6283/60877175zq4.jpg

[MotF Bane]

Two to report:
Using just two DIMMs, not four, DFI P35-T2RL was almost stable (Pass 7 of 8, Test 6, 181 successive errors).
5000+ Black Edition with a DFI 790FX-M2R was a C1 and did not boot.

[Cronos]

I have struggled for long to make my G.Skill PC8000 stable on ASUS P5K Pro. Nothing seemed to help, i could not make it pass Linpack.

Recently ASUS released new BIOS with wider selection of tRFC. I tried tRFC 55, and magically all errors gone! Previously it was set by SPD at 52, and maximum manually selectable value was 42.

Previously I have tested it on Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P, which had wide selection
of tRFC from the beginning, and could not make it stable regardless of tRFC. So i decided tRFC can't be possibly a culprit here. I was wrong.

So, for this memory tRFC 52 is NOT enough at 1000MHz.

[Spyrus]

I have tried Powerchips (On Abit and Maximus Formula) the Mushkin XP6400@4-4-4-12 and Redlines@1000@5-5-5-15 both could boot at 1000 with tRFC 43 but to past 520+ tRFC has to be 52, but 55 is too high i think

[Cronos]

I have tried Powerchips (On Abit and Maximus Formula) the Mushkin XP6400@4-4-4-12 and Redlines@1000@5-5-5-15 both could boot at 1000 with tRFC 43 but to past 520+ tRFC has to be 52, but 55 is too high i think

To pass Linpack 64b at 1000MHz then 8GB is installed,G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ needs tRFC 55 (maybe less 54-53, have not tried ), 52 is not enough. Regardless of voltage.

[GSKILL TECH]

PDF manual is up
please see 1st post

[eSp!s0]

Confirmed Compatibility. :)

-No more DETDRAM issues.
-Boot even on Failed Overclocks at default 1.8v Max Formula uses.
-333 Strap currently Testing: Will push tonight.:up:
-All Timings on Auto on DRAM @ 1.98~2.1v
-tRFC 52 on Auto
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6283/60877175zq4.jpg

What bios do you and all of you other guys use with this Ram and the Formula?
(intern inofficial bios 1004 allows to set TRFC manually up to 130 in 5er steps, but it`s not even beta!)

[eSp!s0]

And Transaction Booster and Ai Clock settings for 333 and 400 strap would be very great :)

[Spyrus]

Start with Moderate. Look at the post of evo one is the same for these modules.

[3lfk1ng]

I really don't know if it's an error on Neweggs part.. but I just purchased 2 sets of this memory at 9:15 on the 6th and they only charged me only $332.45. (NVM, SEE MY EDIT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POST)

F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166)
$189.99 x 2 = $379.98 + $22.47shipping = I should have been charged $402.45

Here is the proof... FROM MARCH 06 2008
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3370/18455260nu0.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18455260nu0.jpg)

When I try to put it it my cart again... the price is back to normal... FROM MARCH 07 2008
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3416/52269258lg2.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=52269258lg2.jpg)
Even the shipping and tax price is different

EDIT:
NVM, I just found out that the modules price went up $40 per pair at the stroke of midnight and free shipping is no longer offered atm. :bounces:

I'm really glad I purchased them when I did. If I had waited another 3 hours I would have had to pay an additional $81.77 :bounces:

When they arrive I will test them out on my DFI RD600 ICFX3200-T2R/G but I mainly purchased them to go into my future Maximus Formula or Rampage Formula.

[eSp!s0]

Very lucky :)

[1138]

I have 8GB of this running at 1068MHz.:up:
http://webpages.charter.net/stg556/ram.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/stg556/memtest.jpg

[Signal64]

These things are really bouncing around price wise on NewEgg.

On Feb-25 I paid $169.00

On March-5 it was listed at $154.00

I saw the increase go up to $189.00

Now today, they are $40 off.
I see them listed at $149.99

[3lfk1ng]

Wow, I wonder why the prices change so much..

[.OCX]

Memory is a commodity, prices change daily.

[eSp!s0]

http://www.abload.de/thumb/cachemem2l2e.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=cachemem2l2e.png)

So far so good :)
I would call performance "mainstream" but compability is "highend" for me (after having issues with Mushkin ram three times and with kingston one time).
Settings:
Strap "333"
Frequency "DDR 1080"
CR "2T"
Timings "Auto" for beginning
Dram Static Read Control "Auto"
Ai Clock "Strong"
Transaction Booster "Disabled"
-Relax 1
Vdimm "1,96V" Bios, "2,0V" Windows

[chriskurn]

These things are really bouncing around price wise on NewEgg.

On Feb-25 I paid $169.00

On March-5 it was listed at $154.00

I saw the increase go up to $189.00

Now today, they are $40 off.
I see them listed at $149.99

I am thinking about getting a set of these, but are they compatible with P5E?

[3lfk1ng]

Add DFI RD600 ICFX3200-T2R/G to list of "incompatible motherboards" ... kinda.

They work just fine, but I am unable to get to windows at anything other than 800mhz.
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1368/8gigseg1.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8gigseg1.jpg)
(Picture taken with default clockspeed and motherboard settings)

Guess I'll have to wait for my Rampage Formula before I can run at 1066.

[Celoth]

Can I assume 8GB of these are compatible with the Gigabyte X48-DQ6 mobo, since they are with the X38 version? Almost same board except the MCH as far as I understand it.

[3lfk1ng]

After replying to you in the other thread. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180503)

Yes, it will work just fine.

[Signal64]

Any word on the DFI P35 UT/LT incompatibility mentioned by G.Skill in post #62 here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=177713&page=3

So far haven't seen them on the incompatibility list and seems most folks are reporting no problems with the PC28000 version on a P35 LT/UT (which had been reported by G.Skill as also having issues).

[GoThr3k]

Any word on the DFI P35 UT/LT incompatibility mentioned by G.Skill in post #62 here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=177713&page=3

So far haven't seen them on the incompatibility list and seems most folks are reporting no problems with the PC28000 version on a P35 LT/UT (which had been reported by G.Skill as also having issues).

i also want to know the same thing, because i want to buy the DK P35 and the gskill's
otherwise i buy the ocz 4GB kit, since it has to go fast

[GoThr3k]

i also want to know the same thing, because i want to buy the DK P35 and the gskill's
otherwise i buy the ocz 4GB kit, since it has to go fast

still no answer?

[GSKILL TECH]

Oskar said DK series no problem to run

[Lu523]

I just got a kit of these. 1 stick boots and runs fine. The other hangs on post code 52. I have tried clearing cmos and different slots. Guess I am going to rma for another kit to see if that works.

[Lee13168]

I'm thinking about getting those. My mobo is asus p5w deluxe. Anyone knows if they will work fine? Its either this ram or the gskill ddr2 1000. 44 dollar difference but I'm looking for something to run at 4-4-4-12 around ddr2 1000 speeds.

[GSKILL TECH]

Asus Striker II Formula compatible

[GSKILL TECH]

if you having some issue install Vista 64bit with over 3GB of memory, please read this article
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777

[Signal64]

Any word on the DFI P35 UT/LT incompatibility mentioned by G.Skill in post #62 here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=177713&page=3

So far haven't seen them on the incompatibility list and seems most folks are reporting no problems with the PC28000 version on a P35 LT/UT (which had been reported by G.Skill as also having issues).

I guess it's nice that Oskar at DFI tested these on the DK P35 for G.Skill.

Any word on exactly what the problem is with these on the DFI P35 LT?

From what I understand, G.Skill does have a DFI P35 LT in house but is still leaving it up to DFI (i.e. Oskar) to determine what the problem is?

[MoreGooder]

Please add the DFI LP LT X38-T2R to the compatibility list. I'm running 8GB and Vista 64bit at rated speeds, 2.1V vdimm. PERFECTLY.

[GSKILL TECH]

update 3/31/08

GA X38 DQ6 compatible.

[GSKILL TECH]

Please add the DFI LP LT X38-T2R to the compatibility list. I'm running 8GB and Vista 64bit at rated speeds, 2.1V vdimm. PERFECTLY.
i still have problem to run 333 / 1066. could you let me know your setting?

[GSKILL TECH]

Asus X48 Rampage Formula tested no problem

[Lu523]

Just got my rma back. Got error 52 with both sticks to start. Tried them 1 at a time and each one worked. Put both back in at the same time and it booted. Running at 1080@1.87 volts.

[PnoT]

I have a pair of these on my LANPARTY LT X48-T2R and I have a few problems.

System:
LANPARTY LT X48-T2R
F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
Corsair 750W PSU
Xeon E3110

I've been trying to OC this chip to 4ghz stable and can't seem to get it to pass Orthos blend and most of the time it locks up during initial post or halfway through the loading of Vista.

Just for the hell of it i put my brothers 2x1 sticks of Corsair in the board and it's completely stable at all the same settings and passes with flying colors.

I have tried setting my RAM to 5-5-5-15 52, upped NB volts from 1.91 (default i think) to 1.40v, and have taken the RAM to 2.2v for one run just to see if that would work.

I have setup 9x multi, 445fsb, 5-5-5-15 52, RAM is showing at 1069 speed in the bios and failing miserably. It's also very odd that i can't boot at different strap speeds at all other than the AUTO that puts it at 1069. I'm not sure why that's happening.

Any help would be appreciated and if there is any info that i left out or should try please let me know.

[bikebuilderdude]

Just wondering if you have tested these on the Asus P5E yet? :cool:

[RealTelstar]

I'm getting a kit of these for my dfi p965-s, will test soon.

[GSKILL TECH]

I have a pair of these on my LANPARTY LT X48-T2R and I have a few problems.

System:
LANPARTY LT X48-T2R
F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
Corsair 750W PSU
Xeon E3110

I've been trying to OC this chip to 4ghz stable and can't seem to get it to pass Orthos blend and most of the time it locks up during initial post or halfway through the loading of Vista.

Just for the hell of it i put my brothers 2x1 sticks of Corsair in the board and it's completely stable at all the same settings and passes with flying colors.

I have tried setting my RAM to 5-5-5-15 52, upped NB volts from 1.91 (default i think) to 1.40v, and have taken the RAM to 2.2v for one run just to see if that would work.

I have setup 9x multi, 445fsb, 5-5-5-15 52, RAM is showing at 1069 speed in the bios and failing miserably. It's also very odd that i can't boot at different strap speeds at all other than the AUTO that puts it at 1069. I'm not sure why that's happening.

Any help would be appreciated and if there is any info that i left out or should try please let me know.
yes i have same problem with DFi X48 but Oskar said he has no problem to run. we will see later bios can fix it or not

[GSKILL TECH]

Just wondering if you have tested these on the Asus P5E yet? :cool:
i dont have this mobo, but as i know p5e-ws pro has problem to run over 1030

[GSKILL TECH]

I'm getting a kit of these for my dfi p965-s, will test soon.
let us know once you have any result :)

[RealTelstar]

I will but I may change mobo before trying the new ram ;)
New mobo being the rampage formula x48

[bikebuilderdude]

i dont have this mobo, but as i know p5e-ws pro has problem to run over 1030

Thank you for your response. I have them running at 1066 on my P5E with bios 0201 (which seems to be the best for memory) and they are fast. Just wanted to know if anyone else was having good luck with them on this MB with any of the newer bios. :cool:

[GSKILL TECH]

Thank you for your response. I have them running at 1066 on my P5E with bios 0201 (which seems to be the best for memory) and they are fast. Just wanted to know if anyone else was having good luck with them on this MB with any of the newer bios. :cool:
that is good to know, so P5E is ok in your case. i will put into customer feedback

[3lfk1ng]

G.S Technician,

Is there by any chance that I can get my hands on your new heatspreaders (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_newproduct&no=12) for my recent purchase of 8gigs worth of G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBP.

I see that the new heatspreaders already have the same exact kit listed as "F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI" and I'm going to assume that the "I" means that they have the new heatspreaders.

Can I buy the heatsinks seperately by any chance?

If not, I'll live :)

[GSKILL TECH]

G.S Technician,

Is there by any chance that I can get my hands on your new heatspreaders (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_newproduct&no=12) for my recent purchase of 8gigs worth of G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBP.

I see that the new heatspreaders already have the same exact kit listed as "F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI" and I'm going to assume that the "I" means that they have the new heatspreaders.

Can I buy the heatsinks seperately by any chance?

If not, I'll live :)
sorry i can't do that becasue the part number of those two are different. we don't sell it separate either.

[3lfk1ng]

Thank you for the quick reply, I just like the looks.

[dimsdale]

Hi there. I'm having a heck of a hard time getting 8 GB (4 sticks) of this RAM stable on my ASUS Maximus Formula (bios 1004).

I can boot into Windows, etc, but my tests in prime95 routinely fail with a rounding error at about an hour.

Can anyone here post their RAM timings into the template below? I would really appreciate it! Thanks.

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :

[eSp!s0]

I`ve got the timings to "Auto", but I only have 2x2GB on my Formula.
But you can try to set Row Refresh Cycle Time higher, to 60 for example. Also important with much Ram is to set a high NorthBridge Voltage.
Transaction Booster to disabled, try Relax Level 0-3 and Ai Clock to Moderate or Light (my 2x2GB are always running Moderate).

If you want to have a look, here are 2 settings from me, but keep in mind, that I only have 4GB and dualcore:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=8686164&postcount=764

[dimsdale]

Thanks for the reply. I had tried RFC=60, but that still failed. At the time, I was running Relax = 0. I will try increasing that next.
I'm already running high voltages on the NB=1.61.



I`ve got the timings to "Auto", but I only have 2x2GB on my Formula.
But you can try to set Row Refresh Cycle Time higher, to 60 for example. Also important with much Ram is to set a high NorthBridge Voltage.
Transaction Booster to disabled, try Relax Level 0-3 and Ai Clock to Moderate or Light (my 2x2GB are always running Moderate).

If you want to have a look, here are 2 settings from me, but keep in mind, that I only have 4GB and dualcore:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=8686164&postcount=764

[GSKILL TECH]

Thanks for the reply. I had tried RFC=60, but that still failed. At the time, I was running Relax = 0. I will try increasing that next.
I'm already running high voltages on the NB=1.61.
follow our user manual setting. don't overclock your CPU. if it doesn't work, you probably need to rma it

[eSp!s0]

But it`s also a bit tricky with the formula and ram. My 2x2GB aren`t running 950Mhz for example, or I can`t find the right settings, but it`s runnings 1030mhz or 1080mhz with this special settings (link in post before) without problems.
And he has 8GB, that`s even more tricky.
He should follow your tip and if the ram is running without OC, he knows, the ram is ok. But if it doesn`t run, it could be the settings anyway. He can not be sure, that the ram is defect if it`s not running without OC or under specs is what I mean. (hard work for me to get me understandable in english ;) )

[dimsdale]

Quick question: Is it safe for me to run these G.Skills at about 2.1280V (as reported in BIOS)?

[eSp!s0]

Yes, should be no problem, the specs are 2.1V and the Formula is overvolting ram a lot so it`s not that easy to get exactly 2.100V.
+0.02V is not much.

[dimsdale]

But it`s also a bit tricky with the formula and ram. My 2x2GB aren`t running 950Mhz for example, or I can`t find the right settings, but it`s runnings 1030mhz or 1080mhz with this special settings (link in post before) without problems.
And he has 8GB, that`s even more tricky.
He should follow your tip and if the ram is running without OC, he knows, the ram is ok. But if it doesn`t run, it could be the settings anyway. He can not be sure, that the ram is defect if it`s not running without OC or under specs is what I mean. (hard work for me to get me understandable in english ;) )

eSp!s0,
Thanks for the reply! I understand what you are saying. I have run Memtest 2.01+ for a few days, and it reports no errors, so I know the ram is ok. Plus, just found some looser settings that passed prime95 blend for about 7 hours before I stopped it.
So its matter of finding the right settings, which can be tricky!

[eSp!s0]

Yes, that is what I mean ;)

[003]

I've got a DFI LANParty LT P35-T2R with the 3/17 BIOS, a Q9450 (C1 stepping) and 8GB (4x 2GB) of G.Skill RAM rated at DDR2 1066.

I am on very good water, the CPU has a D-Tek FuZion using the quad nozzle in the proper orientation, and the intake seal. With a PA120.3 rad and MCP655 pump. The NB has a passive HR-05 IFX installed on it.

I was all geared up for some impressive overclocking, with reports of this board hitting 600FSB and all. Now I know that I will not hit 600MHz using a quad and 8gb of RAM, but I was hoping for at least stability in the mid to high 400s. I would be happy with 475MHz FSB.

Well apparently, that was not in store for me. Instead, I can't get 400MHz FSB stable -- OCCT fails in ~2 seconds.

I am pretty sure the RAM is holding me back, because I tried setting all voltages/speeds to stock, and then I set the RAM divider to 333/1066 so it would actually run at it's rated speed. The result? No POST and a CMOS reset required.

I'm thinking that I really need to adjust all the parameters under the DRAM configuration page in the BIOS. Most of them are set to AUTO, other than the 4 main ones which are set to 5-5-5-15, the rated timings on the RAM.

Can anybody help me with this? What settings under the DRAM configuration should I change, and what should I change them to? I am willing to settle for loose RAM timings. All I require is that I keep all 8gb. Are there any custom BIOSs I could use? Can anybody help me?

[dimsdale]

Thanks everyone for the input (eSp!s0 and G.S Technician).

Just for the record: I got my Asus Maximus Formula (bios 1004) stable (running prime95 in blend mode with no errors for 8 hours) with 8GB of this memory using all "AUTO" settings for the memory timings.

My problem getting stable was that I was slightly undervolting my CPU.

Thanks!

[Dami3n]

Are this memory compatible with p5e vm hdmi?

[khamo]

update 3/31/08

GA X38 DQ6 compatible.

Is there any compatibility info on Asus Blitz Formula. Please see my Sig. Looking at these sticks to go from 2 gb to 4 gb on Vista 32 home premium:) . Yes I know I will not see the entire 4 Gb but the prices keep dropping and to me its worth it to have 3.xxGb available,
Thanks

[CrapCrasher]

I have the Asus Rampage Formula and was going to apply the BIOS settings suggested in the PDF, but I found out when I was going to set the CPU Ratio Setting to 0.9, I was unable to do it, the only value I can enter are either 0.6 or 0.8 or AUTO (bios version 0219), so I am wondering how u could choose 0.9, is there anything in the BIOS I have to enable so that it will unlock other results, I guess I am wrong somewhere but dunno where, please help me out.

[GSKILL TECH]

I have the Asus Rampage Formula and was going to apply the BIOS settings suggested in the PDF, but I found out when I was going to set the CPU Ratio Setting to 0.9, I was unable to do it, the only value I can enter are either 0.6 or 0.8 or AUTO (bios version 0219), so I am wondering how u could choose 0.9, is there anything in the BIOS I have to enable so that it will unlock other results, I guess I am wrong somewhere but dunno where, please help me out.
CPU ratio depends on what CPU you have. there is nothing to do with memory

[BullUSMC]

Hello, I'm thinking of buying this kit but I need to know if its compatible with the Asus P5W DH Delux mobo and if so is a Bios update needed?

[GSKILL TECH]

Hello, I'm thinking of buying this kit but I need to know if its compatible with the Asus P5W DH Delux mobo and if so is a Bios update needed?
it probably is not going to work becasue trfc value is too low

[RealTelstar]

let us know once you have any result :)

Running default speed sorry, maybe i have time to play a bit with memset. Busy with work and getting a rampage soon.

[has33]

Is there any compatibility info on Asus Blitz Formula. Please see my Sig. Looking at these sticks to go from 2 gb to 4 gb on Vista 32 home premium:) . Yes I know I will not see the entire 4 Gb but the prices keep dropping and to me its worth it to have 3.xxGb available,
Thanks

So, did it work with Ur Blitz ???

Me has a blitz as well and wanna ultimately go 8GB for the hackintoch 10.5.2 OS, audio workstation.

Other specs would be Q6600, WCed with fuzion/D5/PA120 and a 8800GT with MCP60 also included in the loop.

EDIT: Is the Pi HS worth the $25 extra ???

[MoreGooder]

i still have problem to run 333 / 1066. could you let me know your setting?


I actually did nothing but increase the fsb. Everything else was default!

What settings are you curious about? I'll get the info from my bios for you.

[GSKILL TECH]

I actually did nothing but increase the fsb. Everything else was default!

What settings are you curious about? I'll get the info from my bios for you.
hummmm interesting. we can't make our DFi X38 /X48 to work with 2x2GB here..

[jVIDIA]

Hi there GST ;)

Is the 8500PK 1130MHz capable on a x38/x48?

What's you experience ?

Thanks.

[eSp!s0]

I think that will be hard. I could easily do 1080Mhz on X38 but I couldn`t get 1120Mhz stable. But with a good kit and with the bios-features and possibilities of the X48 you may reach the 1130Mhz.
There`s only one way to find out ;)

[MoreGooder]

hummmm interesting. we can't make our DFi X38 /X48 to work with 2x2GB here..

That's odd. The reason I bought this memory for this mobo is because I read success stories at Newegg specifically regarding this combo.

[RealTelstar]

1066 ran perfect on my rampage (I'm sure i had a crappy p965-s board).
Now is time to optimize.

Which is the max freq to which you have attained some tight timings such as 4-4-4-4-12?
My goal is max bandwith, not max frequency. I will also play with performance level (tRD)

[eSp!s0]

Just reached the 1111Mhz, but it`s the end when using VDimm in ram specs (2.0-2.1V).
http://www.abload.de/thumb/g.skill2x2gb1111mhzpd6a.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=g.skill2x2gb1111mhzpd6a.png)

[cybergod909]

Hello G.skill tech. I recently got a pair of these off newegg and am having problems. I am using an evga 780i with the newest bios, and they are in the correct slots. I cannot get the ram to run at stock speeds without errors in memtest. If i downclock them to about 900 -950 I can get them stable. Do I have a bad pair? It auto-detects volt at 2.1, I have even tried differ volts as well but still cannot get stable.

[GSKILL TECH]

Hello G.skill tech. I recently got a pair of these off newegg and am having problems. I am using an evga 780i with the newest bios, and they are in the correct slots. I cannot get the ram to run at stock speeds without errors in memtest. If i downclock them to about 900 -950 I can get them stable. Do I have a bad pair? It auto-detects volt at 2.1, I have even tried differ volts as well but still cannot get stable.
please please make sure it is in the correct slot. when it posts, read it has 128bit for memory or not. we talk to many customers and found out everyone of them has memory installed on singel channel.... which won't pass DDR2 1001 but no error on 1000... please try that

[cybergod909]

Yes they are in the correct slots, it also states 128-bit. Just tested again at 1066 and it fails. Should I just RMA these through newegg as Ive only had them a few days?

[hardtarget]

Is there a problem with this memory (G.Skill 4GB DDR2 PK PC2-8500C5) running on a DFI LT X48-T2R board with the 333/800 strap? I just can't get it to work at all :confused: Yet works fine at 333/1066

[GSKILL TECH]

Is there a problem with this memory (G.Skill 4GB DDR2 PK PC2-8500C5) running on a DFI LT X48-T2R board with the 333/800 strap? I just can't get it to work at all :confused: Yet works fine at 333/1066
yes there are few issues with DFi motherboard, and 333/800 is one of them. that is why we don't recommend DFi X48 for this model of memory

[GSKILL TECH]

Yes they are in the correct slots, it also states 128-bit. Just tested again at 1066 and it fails. Should I just RMA these through newegg as Ive only had them a few days?
try this for me. if it doesn't work, RMA it.

set to DDR2 1000 1.9v and memtest (windows) it. if no error, there are some problem with setting (most the time)

[hardtarget]

Is there no fix for this? Do DFI know and if so will they include a fix in their next BIOS update? Had a look at the DFI site and no new BIOS since March :(

[GSKILL TECH]

they know, but oscar said no problem but i still have some problem even with his newest bios. so i am not sure what is going on

[hardtarget]

Would I be able to exchange this for something compatible from (G-Skill) with my board its only a few weeks old :confused: I don't mind if I have to pay extra?

[GSKILL TECH]

Would I be able to exchange this for something compatible from (G-Skill) with my board its only a few weeks old :confused: I don't mind if I have to pay extra?
for exchange you need to talk to the store.

[cybergod909]

Hello again g.skill tech and thank you for the continued support. I have tested it at 1000 with 1.9 volts and it passed memtest and seems stable in windows so far. At this point I'm not sure. Its either a setting, or the memory isn't auto setting itself right. I think I have found the value causing this as well. When I run at 1066 I get it auto set by the bios to these settings. 5-5-5-15 , and also:
trrd=4
trc=48
twr=6
twtr=10
tref=7.8us

Now I think the problem might be the TRC value. It auto detects this value at 48 into the bios. The problem is that the bios will only let me set this vaule as high as 31. I have an evga 780i with the most up to date bios, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

[keiths]

Does gskill have some 2GB DDR2 DIMMs that will do 600+ the p45 boards allow? So far the only thing I've seen people doing such is with Crucial Ballistix.

[GSKILL TECH]

Hello again g.skill tech and thank you for the continued support. I have tested it at 1000 with 1.9 volts and it passed memtest and seems stable in windows so far. At this point I'm not sure. Its either a setting, or the memory isn't auto setting itself right. I think I have found the value causing this as well. When I run at 1066 I get it auto set by the bios to these settings. 5-5-5-15 , and also:
trrd=4
trc=48
twr=6
twtr=10
tref=7.8us

Now I think the problem might be the TRC value. It auto detects this value at 48 into the bios. The problem is that the bios will only let me set this vaule as high as 31. I have an evga 780i with the most up to date bios, so I'm not sure what the problem is.
you know what, i will test 780i and screen shot the memset for you to compare. from there we know what is the problem.
also i will take pic of slots that memory installed

[GSKILL TECH]

Does gskill have some 2GB DDR2 DIMMs that will do 600+ the p45 boards allow? So far the only thing I've seen people doing such is with Crucial Ballistix.
not yet, and we don't want to use micron for DDR2 anymore because look at that RMA rate.....

[keiths]

The F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK have a high RMA rate? What's the failure? Micron's chips burnout I guess?

[GSKILL TECH]

The F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK have a high RMA rate? What's the failure? Micron's chips burnout I guess?
not F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK, they don;t use micron

[eSp!s0]

Hello again g.skill tech and thank you for the continued support. I have tested it at 1000 with 1.9 volts and it passed memtest and seems stable in windows so far. At this point I'm not sure. Its either a setting, or the memory isn't auto setting itself right. I think I have found the value causing this as well. When I run at 1066 I get it auto set by the bios to these settings. 5-5-5-15 , and also:
trrd=4
trc=48
twr=6
twtr=10
tref=7.8us

Now I think the problem might be the TRC value. It auto detects this value at 48 into the bios. The problem is that the bios will only let me set this vaule as high as 31. I have an evga 780i with the most up to date bios, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

When at Auto my Intel X38 board set TRC to 52. With the old bios versions, the board set TRC to 42 and many people had problems with 2x2GB Kits but I don`t know about the nforce chipsets.
You could try to relax other clocks, take a look at the second bioscreen with the clocks 11 and 4 here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2957836&postcount=4744 and if you have this options, try to relax them to 11 and 4 and maybe higher voltage a little bit.

[RH+]

Here they do a review of this memory...with a P5B-Dlx
http://www.xtreme-mc.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=31&limit=1&limitstart=4
Its the same of this post? what is the compatibility problem then?
thanks!

[eSp!s0]

In the review it`s the GBPQ kit with PC2-8000 (1000Mhz), this thread here is about the GBPK kit with PC2-8500 (1066Mhz).
Which compability problem do you mean.

[cybergod909]

Hello again g.s. tech. I was wondering if you had a change yet to get those pics posted yet.

[eSp!s0]

2x 2GB GBPK 1030Mhz (515x7, 1:1) @ 1.94V, Asus Maximus Formula Bios 1102:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se1102515x71030rlwg.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se1102515x71030rlwg.png)http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se1102515x71030rqgl.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se1102515x71030rqgl.png)


Just reached the 1111Mhz, but it`s the end when using VDimm in ram specs (2.0-2.1V).
http://www.abload.de/thumb/g.skill2x2gb1111mhzpd6a.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=g.skill2x2gb1111mhzpd6a.png)

[GSKILL TECH]

Hello again g.s. tech. I was wondering if you had a change yet to get those pics posted yet.
oh man i am sorry i forget about it. i will try to post it today or tomorrow. i am sorry

[cybergod909]

Hello again g.skill tech. I wanted to know if you got the pics yet. Im not sure what to do im still stuck.

[GSKILL TECH]

Hello again g.skill tech. I wanted to know if you got the pics yet. Im not sure what to do im still stuck.
i told to one of the customer yesterday

could you try this for me.

step
1. set everything on auto and it should post at DDR2 800

2. go into bios and change votlage to 1.9v and save.

3. load windows. if no problem, restart your computer can go into bios again

4. change to DDR2 1066 and change to 2.05v, leave timing on auto, save an exit

5. load to windows, if no problem, restart your computer again and go to bios and change to CL5-5-5-15 and rest on auto

6. load windows and see any problem or not

if you get BOSD or any problem, let me know which step you have BOSD

[hardtarget]

yes there are few issues with DFi motherboard, and 333/800 is one of them. that is why we don't recommend DFi X48 for this model of memoryAfter a lot of hassle with this memory and my DFI LT X48 board I finally RMA'd the motherboard and the new one has been fine with the G-Skill PK PC2-8500C5 able to run at 333/800 as well as 333/1066 no problem :up:

[GSKILL TECH]

After a lot of hassle with this memory and my DFI LT X48 board I finally RMA'd the motherboard and the new one has been fine with the G-Skill PK PC2-8500C5 able to run at 333/800 as well as 333/1066 no problem :up:
i wonder there is difference between every batch, becasue no matter what i do, it just no run

[davewolfs]

Will this memory work with the P5Q Deluxe?

[GripS]

Will this memory work with the P5Q Deluxe?

Planning on using this kit with an Asus P5Q E here. Can a G.skill rep respond to this please? If G.Skill doesn't respond i should have the kit and board here on Thursday and will report my results.

[GSKILL TECH]

yes it works on p5q-e
haven't see a p45 motherboard has problem with this memory

[3lfk1ng]

re: eSp!s0
I was able to run 4gigs of 8500CL5D at 1113.2mhz @ 5-5-5-15
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9608/gskill11132resizedhq2.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill11132resizedhq2.jpg)
With 8gigs I was unable to break 1066mhz.

[GSKILL TECH]

re: eSp!s0
I was able to run 4gigs of 8500CL5D at 1113.2mhz @ 5-5-5-15
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9608/gskill11132resizedhq2.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill11132resizedhq2.jpg)
With 8gigs I was unable to break 1066mhz.
thanks for your input

[GripS]

yes it works on p5q-e
haven't see a p45 motherboard has problem with this memory

Right on.....thanks for the reply.

Confirmed working on Asus P5q-e and DFI Lanparty LT P35 T2R at 1066+

[eSp!s0]

re: eSp!s0
I was able to run 4gigs of 8500CL5D at 1113.2mhz @ 5-5-5-15
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9608/gskill11132resizedhq2.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gskill11132resizedhq2.jpg)
With 8gigs I was unable to break 1066mhz.

Hi, what voltage do you need for the 1113.2mhz?

Edit: You have an Asus Rampage Formula, you have 2 ram options more than I have which can make the ram go higher, I don`t remember the names anymore!?

[Zucker2k]

I have nothing but good things to say about this memory... Everyone needs to get a pair and their dirt cheap.

[uwackme]

Anyone use this on AMD based systems?

I have the Foxconn version of the Nforce590-SLI board, works nice but AMD max's out the T(rc) at 26, no way to get it to the 48 called for in the SPD for 1066 operation.

Any suggested timings to get 1066 to work, I'm sitting at 980 at the moment, as if just "something" is missing.

Great ram though. I'm considering a move to the latest Nforce 790 Foxconn board for the Phenom II, as soon as Foxconn releases an official bios for it.

[MadMan007]

Just a quick question regarding this kit since I'm looking for a low profile DDR2-1066 2x2GB set. I have a DFI JR P45 mATX, this set is on the qualified memory list according to DFI but not on G Skill's list and G Skill rep also says 'no problem on P45 motherboards' - so I'm assuming these ought to get me DDR2-1050-1100 memory speed using various dividers? Does anyone have this particular memory+mobo combo?

Also are these kits still doing a well as they have in the past, or is the binning putting the better ones in the PI series? I would consider the -4GBPI instead even though they aren't low profile.

[GSKILL TECH]

well, i am not able to guarantee for overclock because every kit is different. DFI mATX i haven't heard any problem with our 1066 memory. i assume it is ok. PI and PK are the same but i will take PI if the price are the same

[MadMan007]

Well I ordered them not long after posting that ;) I'm sure they'll be ok since they're on DFIs memory list. So you're saying that PK and PI are the same modules other than the heatspreaders?

[bug]

Great Memory Indeed.

But it runs hot, too HOT. In fact without active cooling it is overheating and crashing. No wonder the RMA rate is so high!

Not sure why the specs. say 2-2.1v when it runs at much lower voltages.

I was able to stabilize 4 modules at 1.87v w/ active cooling on DFI LP x48 LT

Is this normal? I've bought these Dec. 08 from NewEgg.

Revised chips maybe?

So: 4 modeles / 8GB / 1066Mhz / 1.87v / W AC RC Turbo module blowing at it.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9314/memud7.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memud7.jpg)

[demoncamber]

Hello,

I have the F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK x2 (8gb total) memory installed and I was wondering if there were any advantages to enabling in my ASUS Crosshair II Formula bios the SLI Memory option, if so which High Performance or Optimal setting would be recommended?

Hopefully someone can shoot me in the right direction

By the way you can add the ASUS Crosshair Formula II to the list of supported mobos...

[OC Nub]

Question for GSKILL Tech, I have the F2-8500-CL5D 4gb kit on a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P motherboard. What is the correct value for tRFC? I have it set to auto. I see some guys that have it set manually to tRFC-55 with this memory.

[topdog5050]

thanks g. skill tech for the info.

[eSp!s0]

Btw. this ram is also running great with the P45 Maximus II Formula. Need 1,80VDimm (minimum with this board) for 1000Mhz in 333Strap at 500FSB, PL10, 5-5-5-12. For 1066Mhz in 333Strap with 533FSB, PL10, 5-5-5-15 I need 1,87VDimm.
:wave: