Nvidia's First 171.16 Betas

[Warboy]

As we all know, the alphas of these drivers leaked a few weeks ago for XP 32-bit and Vista 32-bit only.

Now we have complete sets, 32-bit and 64-bit flavors.

From what I can see, The main thing for these drivers is Support for the 8800GT 1GB and the 9600GT.


NVIDIA_G92.DEV_061A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700"
NVIDIA_G94.DEV_0622.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT"
NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E2.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400"
NVIDIA_G98.DEV_06E4.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS "


Also there is signs there will be 8800GTS (G92) with 1GB Memory in this line of code

NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0600.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512/1024"

Please note these have not been tested at all from any of my sources. So if you would test them, Please compare them to the 169.32s and see how they perform.

Windows XP 32-bit (http://www.palit.biz/download/driver/nvidia/171.16_Win2KXP_6-7-8series-9600GT.zip)
Windows XP 64-bit (http://www.palit.biz/download/driver/nvidia/171.16_WinXP64_6-7-8series-9600GT.zip)
Windows Vista 32-bit (http://www.palit.biz/download/driver/nvidia/171.16_vista32bit_6-7-8series-9600GT.zip)
Windows Vista 64-bit (http://www.palit.biz/download/driver/nvidia/171.16_vista64bit_6-7-8series-9600GT.zip)

Enjoy!

[BulldogPO]

Interesting, I have to test them tomorrow.

[MuffinFlavored]

There needs to be a happy median.

ATI can't release drivers for already publicly available products.
NVIDIA releases a surplus of drivers for future products.

[GoThr3k]

There needs to be a happy median.

ATI can't release drivers for already publicly available products.
NVIDIA releases a surplus of drivers for future products.

ATI's hardware is available now
Nvidia's hardware is delayed....

[xlink]

anything for linux?

ehh didn't think so.

[Rock&Roll]

Hopefully they get driver recovery fixed in Vista x64. If OC testing, and the driver stops responding, it will try to get itself back running, but it will BSOD vista while trying. That, or if you have a 3d game/app running while having a video overlay (live tv in WMC in my case) the same will also happen. Of course, i won't lay 100% of the blame on Nvidia for vista BSODing until I have some drivers from Creative that aren't 1.5 years old.

EDIT. Slooooooooow DL here. 23kbps

[Warboy]

has anyone tested these yet?

[dertimaushh]

Finally the 64-Bit Version.

Thanks :up:

Didn't Vr-Zone reported a 20% boost in Crysis or was it a germay page :confused:

Will test it the next days.


Have fun

Edit:

It was VR-Zone
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/NVIDIA_Forceware_Vista_Beta_Drivers_Preview/5491-3.html

[Monkeywoman]

i wounder what that could be?:p:

source; vr-zone

[Jamesrt2004]

G92-100 = G-8 hummm I WANT IT :)

[JAG87]

The cliffs for the people that are too lazy to try them:

- these drivers run the fan at 100% all the time
- these drivers have some major changes in the control panel
i) there is a restore button for the global settings, as well as each of the profiles
ii) there is a new entry in global settings called "Maximum pre-rendered frames", default is set to 3. I have no idea what it does.


I am running them now, everything is the same if not better than 169.28 and 169.32. I especially like the restore button, its been a long time coming. Bottom line, try these out

:up:

[K404]

This is XS....any boosts in 3DM? :D:D

[Warboy]

Finally the 64-Bit Version.

Thanks :up:

Didn't Vr-Zone reported a 20% boost in Crysis or was it a germay page :confused:

Will test it the next days.


Have fun

Edit:

It was VR-Zone
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/NVIDIA_Forceware_Vista_Beta_Drivers_Preview/5491-3.html

They had the Alpha drivers, These are betas.

[Spawne32]

Im so mad i went ATI rather then nvidia, what a dissapointment these 3xxx series cards were for me.

[RAW-Raptor22]

Heres some benchmarks!

Intel Pentium D 820
ECS 945P-A Crossfire
eVGA nVidia GeForce 8800GT @ Stock
2x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-5300
2x 512MB Kingston ValueRam PC2-4200
Windows XP x64 Edition

3DMark2001SE

169.32:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8021/3dm0122743169328800gtstjk4.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm0122743169328800gtstjk4.jpg)

171.16:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4062/3dm0123428171168800gtstps8.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm0123428171168800gtstps8.jpg)


I hope this helps!

[Warboy]

Heres some benchmarks!

Intel Pentium D 820
ECS 945P-A Crossfire
eVGA nVidia GeForce 8800GT @ Stock
2x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-5300
2x 512MB Kingston ValueRam PC2-4200
Windows XP x64 Edition

3DMark2001SE

169.32:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8021/3dm0122743169328800gtstjk4.th.jpg (http://img162.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm0122743169328800gtstjk4.jpg)

171.16:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4062/3dm0123428171168800gtstps8.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3dm0123428171168800gtstps8.jpg)


I hope this helps!


Wow thats nice. 750 point gain basiclly

[RAW-Raptor22]

Thanks I was surprised too... I was looking at an old bench with 163.69s and that was 22324... so after 50 driver releases they only got 400 points, then they come out with this one and get a nice 750 point boost. :)

Edit: I fixed the fan issue by going into rivatuner and resetting the fan that way. :)

[KALISPIMENTA]

The cliffs for the people that are too lazy to try them:

- these drivers run the fan at 100% all the time
- these drivers have some major changes in the control panel
i) there is a restore button for the global settings, as well as each of the profiles
ii) there is a new entry in global settings called "Maximum pre-rendered frames", default is set to 3. I have no idea what it does.


I am running them now, everything is the same if not better than 169.28 and 169.32. I especially like the restore button, its been a long time coming. Bottom line, try these out

:up:
Any idea on what the Maximum pre-rendered frames means?

[K404]

I tried 3D01 and AM3 with these Vs the 169.21 and got no difference at all. At least they're not worse!

[STEvil]

Any idea on what the Maximum pre-rendered frames means?

Exactly what it says.

It means the GPU can only render X number of frames ahead of what is being outputted to the monitor. Heard of tripple buffering? Basically pretty darn close but not quite identical.

[RAW-Raptor22]

Which is better, more pre-rendered frames or less?

[STEvil]

really going to depend on the rendering engine of the game. Anything more than 5 is probably useless on games with decent physics.

[RAW-Raptor22]

really going to depend on the rendering engine of the game. Anything more than 5 is probably useless on games with decent physics.

So for Crysis leave the settings alone? What about 2142?

[halo112358]

these drivers resolved some OC crashes I had with the 169.32 set, they've been running like a champ for the last 24 hours

[Rock&Roll]

Which is better, more pre-rendered frames or less?

This is an old setting. More pre-rendered = more mouse lag. So, 2 or 3 is the standard setting.

[RAW-Raptor22]

This is an old setting. More pre-rendered = more mouse lag. So, 2 or 3 is the standard setting.

Okay, I'll just leave it alone then. :-)

[CraptacularOne]

I'm currently using these and they seem OK. Tri SLI had benefited in Crysis. I can now maintain about 40-45fps avg at 1680x1050. Previously it would fluctuate from 30-45fps. While these have not increased the max fps, they have smoothed it somewhat. Also Tri SLI score in 06 has risen about 200 points. Still testing other games.

[Natalia]

Tried these out... and getting a lot of visual issues with the Vista GUI.

No isssues in game... so far....

[fcry64]

anybody done the crysis benchies?

[takamishanoku]

Would love to try these but i don't really want a 100% fan.

Heard they increase approx 1-2 fps over 169.32.

[Envydia007]

thats right 100% fan, no 3dmark06 improvement here but added 8 frames to my current Crysis settings, not too bad.
Win XP 32 user.

[Alucard-]

Anyone know if these drivers hold monitor color profiles properly, after the monitors turn off or exits games?

[Hazaro]

thats right 100% fan, no 3dmark06 improvement here but added 8 frames to my current Crysis settings, not too bad.
Win XP 32 user.

Can't even change it in Rivatuner or any other program?

I'm nervous about re-installing drivers because my Windows partition disappeared last time I did :shrug:

[BulldogPO]

Rivatuner lower that fan speed just fine.

[fcry64]

thats right 100% fan, no 3dmark06 improvement here but added 8 frames to my current Crysis settings, not too bad.
Win XP 32 user.

8 frames to what? avg fps? do tell the before and after fps:)

[Warboy]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1736/crysissy2.th.png (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crysissy2.png)
2/5/2008 11:22:22 PM - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-sphere, Demo-autotest
DX10 1024x768, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 64 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 82.89s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 67.04s, Average FPS: 29.83
Min FPS: 21.61 at frame 75, Max FPS: 43.92 at frame 791
Average Tri/Sec: -24918914, Tri/Frame: -835284
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.79
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 64.14s, Average FPS: 31.18
Min FPS: 17.44 at frame 1771, Max FPS: 43.92 at frame 791
Average Tri/Sec: -26048202, Tri/Frame: -835415
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.79
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 64.18s, Average FPS: 31.16
Min FPS: 17.44 at frame 1771, Max FPS: 43.92 at frame 791
Average Tri/Sec: -26035354, Tri/Frame: -835496
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.79
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============

Completed All Tests

<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>

2/5/2008 11:22:22 PM - Vista 64

Run #1- DX10 1024x768 AA=No AA, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 31.17
====================================


Specs below with 171.16 drivers
This is what i posted in the Crysis Benchmark thread.
Seems only to be 1-4 FPS faster, but Its still worth it. I'll compare 169.32 vs 171.16s when i get chance, since I've been so busy lately.

[RPGWiZaRD]

Very great performing drivers it seems, clearly better than 169.xx drivers. Was using Xtreme-G 167.26 until now that I use 171.16. BTW 1 - 4 FPS is a lot in Crysis as slow as this game runs.

[takamishanoku]

Guys, some guys benches for crysis with comparisons with .28, .32 and 171.16 all here

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=2585239&postcount=94

full thread http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=251881

Some for UT3. You can REALLY see the difference (check out my comments on the 169.32 thread- 10fps more than .28!).

http://www.alcomsplace.com/ut3_bench_forceware_drivers.htm

[Mk]

Downloaded them from 3D Guru and NOT STABLE at all crash with windows Dream science crash with after like 4-5 hours running with no reason keep fans at 100% (Dont mind that if they actually work) just reinstalled 169.25 more stable for me

[Warboy]

Guys, some guys benches for crysis with comparisons with .28, .32 and 171.16 all here

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=2585239&postcount=94

full thread http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=251881

So there isn't a huge jump in FPS between 169.32s and 171.16s

[takamishanoku]

The ones to look out for are the alpha 173 sets that show a significant improvement in DX 10. Honestly i love the fact that nvidia squeeze every last frame. Like i said a 10fps jump (patches included) in crysis and ppl are even getting decent frames now in 1920 x 1080. The 8 series are no where near their full potential.

[Warboy]

The ones to look out for are the alpha 173 sets that show a significant improvement in DX 10. Honestly i love the fact that nvidia squeeze every last frame. Like i said a 10fps jump (patches included) in crysis and ppl are even getting decent frames now in 1920 x 1080. The 8 series are no where near their full potential.

Good, I wanna see the 173s hit beta and see Nvidia finally get Quad-SLI Technology working for the 9800GX2:p:

[RPGWiZaRD]

Personally I'm more interesting in drivers that perform great overall, not only Crysis. 169.xx were sucky allround drivers for me especially for CoD4. 167.26 was really great and seems 171.16 is slightly better.

[Envydia007]

8 frames to what? avg fps? do tell the before and after fps:)

52 before and 60 after avg fps.

[GoldenEye]

Thx, gonna test it tomorrow :)

[Rock&Roll]

Yeah, I had a lot of issues with these drivers. Skipping video playback. Video driver crashes in numerous games. Just went back to 169.25

[MuffinFlavored]

Raptor22;2746773']So for Crysis leave the settings alone? What about 2142?


Raptor22;2746625']Which is better, more pre-rendered frames or less?

With what, 3 possible settings, I would try them all? lol
SLI has the 2nd card work on rendering future frames I though.
And quad-SLI is a problem because DirectX9 can only render 3 in advanced.

I just keep getting the nVIDIA WHQLs.

[Warboy]

https://publish.comcast.net/rpath/b-sZc2nPCdh097Vfhr1qqMbk8HqwTZIup_wVU30x_wIlnVIP24ex Zo7DjGXJvEcb_DPgH0EJvx3tt_2Bm8DFYWzxkGcI8boi_Fa6vG 3_nStd0zXOUJZM7pm51ScaGEF9SlbLU1-RrPf0urDkkFYRGg/

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[BulldogPO]

WTF, I just swapped 8800 GT to GTS 512MB and Rivatuner doe&#180;nt show overclocking options....

[railer]

WTF, I just swapped 8800 GT to GTS 512MB and Rivatuner doe´nt show overclocking options....

reinstall drivers.

These 171.16 did wonders for me. Crysis seams allot smoother and i gained like. 10% in fps. really way better then 169.... With med config 2x AA 864/1152 res i can play MP @ 100FPS. it never drops below 70 too. AA does make this game look so much better.
This is with C2D and 8800GT

[RPGWiZaRD]

Yea it seems to be especially optimized for Crysis. I saw some benchmarks on tweakforce and it clearly outshined other drivers in Crysis but in the rest of the games it was just "good". I play Crysis with everything "high" and 2xAA smooth enough but since I'm on a 19" CRT only @ 1280x960. :p

I've never seen a game where the difference between none and 2x AA is this huge, but yea the trees looks horrible without AA and there's tons of trees in this game so. I'd rather play at some really low res and use AA than a higher than without it.

[railer]

I've never seen a game where the difference between none and 2x AA is this huge, but yea the trees looks horrible without AA and there's tons of trees in this game so. I'd rather play at some really low res and use AA than a higher than without it.
And i thought I'm the only one going insane about it. AA changes how this game look and feels drastically. I could not enable AA with my old 7900 but once i did it playing a game, i could not believe my eyes how different it was. I could see people for miles away now and all those jaggies are almost gone:up:

Gaming on CRT has it's advantages, i don't need insane resolutions for the game to look awesome

[Tibu]

woops nvm

[MuffinFlavored]

I use these over WHQL.
WHQL locked my resolution at 640x480 4-bit with a fresh install of Windows XP.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2758453

[Richie P]

Any one noticed any changes for these on a GTX? In fact, anyone know what the best driver for the GTX is? Thanks :)

[lochabar]

The ones to look out for are the alpha 173 sets that show a significant improvement in DX 10. Honestly i love the fact that nvidia squeeze every last frame. Like i said a 10fps jump (patches included) in crysis and ppl are even getting decent frames now in 1920 x 1080. The 8 series are no where near their full potential.

Here. 173.65 vista 32bit

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17357