View Full Version : Danger Den 4404 kit?
youngone
01-31-2008, 09:14 AM
IS this kit any good?
Baleful
01-31-2008, 09:21 AM
Umm... Link please
youngone
01-31-2008, 09:28 AM
http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=287&cat=2&page=1
I say: "No good."
Check out some of THESE (http://www.petrastechshop.com/wacoki.html) kits from Petra's. They come with more up to date watercooling components :up:
Fujimitsu
01-31-2008, 10:09 AM
I say: "No good."
Check out some of THESE (http://www.petrastechshop.com/wacoki.html) kits from Petra's. They come with more up to date watercooling components :up:
Agreed.
No real reason to by any DD products at the moment, except for MAYBE gpu solutions.
Baleful
01-31-2008, 10:13 AM
For that price, no.
+1 for smee's recommendation.
Nate P.
01-31-2008, 02:13 PM
Yep, Petra's kits are excellent.
NickS
01-31-2008, 02:59 PM
+1 @ Petra's, or the Swiftech H20-220 kit.
joecop120
01-31-2008, 04:37 PM
there are actually cheaper DD kits online with newer components, sorry no link atm.
coolmiester
01-31-2008, 04:52 PM
So whats actually wrong with this kit??
So whats actually wrong with this kit??
The stuff is old in the kit.
Air cooling can beat that kit...
Agent11
01-31-2008, 05:55 PM
The stuff is old in the kit.
Air cooling can beat that kit...
I doubt it.
Anyways. Petra's does have more bang for your buck.
coolmiester
01-31-2008, 06:41 PM
The stuff is old in the kit.
Air cooling can beat that kit...
Pray tell?? and give me some figures to prove otherwise in terms of temps for $$ or ££?
I doubt it.
Pray tell?? and give me some figures to prove otherwise in terms of temps for $$ or ££?
It's called "Thermalright 120 (http://www.petrastechshop.com/thulhecpucos.html)" or "Tuniq Tower 120 (http://www.petrastechshop.com/sututo120hec.html)". Either of those CPU heatsinks cost's around $60.
You just need a couple of 50+ cfm fans and your cruising. :cool:
I'm telling you, the stuff in that kit is pretty old, you can get wayyy better stuff for the same price.
coolmiester
01-31-2008, 07:39 PM
It's called "Thermalright 120" or "Tuniq Tower 120".
You just need a couple of 50+ cfm fans and your cruising. :cool:
I'm telling you, the stuff in that kit is pretty old, you can get wayyy better stuff for the same price.
Unfotrtunately you're not telling me anything - give me some numbers and i'll back down.
ferrari_freak
01-31-2008, 08:20 PM
Unfotrtunately you're not telling me anything - give me some numbers and i'll back down.
I wouldn't believe the Tuniq tower without numbers either, but regarding the kit itself I'd say a definite no no. Isn't the TDX like 4+ years old? I really hate how DD hasn't made a single CPU block after the success of the TDX which I don't really get seeing as the Swiftech 6002 was better back in the day. The BIX2 is no good either because it's old and requires high CFM fans and better performance can be achieved with something like an MCR.
Unfotrtunately you're not telling me anything - give me some numbers and i'll back down.
If you have the right kind of fans, you can do 10c better than the DD water block. Please don't criticize me on this, it's true if you have the right kind of fans, and knowing that the dd block is 4+ years old (like ferrari said).....
Thanks!
Peter949
01-31-2008, 11:53 PM
I say: "No good."
Check out some of THESE (http://www.petrastechshop.com/wacoki.html) kits from Petra's. They come with more up to date watercooling components :up:
Which of those kits are recommeded for a quad core.
Which of those kits are recommeded for a quad core.
THIS (http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoel.html) one.
But make sure your just going to cool your CPU only. The rad won't be able to handle any more than that. :up:
coolmiester
02-02-2008, 03:40 PM
Same kit that madshrimp used in the 6 High End CPU Water Blocks Tested and Compared (http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=627) all be it with a couple of changes so don't see what the problem is tbh and personally wouldn't condone it in any way unless i'd got numbers to back it up or seen direct comparisons :rolleyes:
ryan92084
02-02-2008, 03:53 PM
Same kit that madshrimp used in the 6 High End CPU Water Blocks Tested and Compared (http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=627) all be it with a couple of changes so don't see what the problem is tbh and personally wouldn't condone it in any way unless i'd got numbers to back it up or seen direct comparisons :rolleyes:
not really.. the fans the radiator (and obviously cpu block) were all replaced. While that may be "only a couple of things" i don't relly see how using the just the hose, clamps, and resevoir helps defend the kit as a whole.
not saying its a bad kit just saying your example is flawed.
Anemone
02-02-2008, 03:57 PM
BIX 2nd gen's aren't "bad" they just aren't what folks usually list as #1. However usually the list goes PA, MCR, BIX so they aren't too bad :)
MC TDX is not a half bad block. I'd agree the fusion is good stuff, but the updated TDX isn't horrible at all. In fact the original TDX did pretty well in that Madshrimps test.
And if you are getting better temps on air, then you are probably doing water incorrectly :) That's a generalization, but it's often true.
ps: however if referring to the kit in specific, ok that it's not at the top of the heap
coolmiester
02-02-2008, 04:07 PM
not really.. the fans the radiator (and obviously cpu block) were all replaced.
not saying its a bad kit just saying your example is flawed.
Not really unless you / anyone can put some numbers into the mix.
You know, i'm not having a go either way but fail to see how one kit can be written off against another without numbers to back it up.
There are so many experts on this forum but Martin seems to be the only one talking things on board and coming out with tangible evidence........free of charge i may add so to undermine this with knee jerk forum posts is only going to undermine good work imo
That kit now ships with the MC-TDX btw
dyetube
02-02-2008, 10:20 PM
o.k... I just bought the dd 4404 and it comes with the MC-TDX. I'll be glad to buy something else if the figures show it, but from everything I see here there are now figures to back that up. The only link that compares the dd kit listed above actually does NOT have a replaced cpu block and the temps are the best of the bunch! I'm getting a q6600 and evga 780i board in 2 weeks so I have plenty of time to return this bad boy and get something else... When I looked at the others listed above I saw the same radiator, a smaller pump and a differnt cpu block. Other than that, I don't see a difference. I want figures, something other than " well it's just better, trust me." Back it up! Show me the results! I want the best. I want to really overclock this guy and see what it can do and air just won't cut it!
dyetube
02-02-2008, 10:56 PM
btw... any recommendations on a case that could handle this kit?? I have a lian pc-65. I was thinking about getting the cooler master cosmos because it has the water cooling hose holes in the back. But it is only 1 120mm fan and not 2 so my radiator would possible conflict with my slots...
septim
02-03-2008, 06:40 AM
you could mod the cosmos case, as many have done...
the mc tdx has some good performance, as tested by some members here...
dyetube
02-04-2008, 02:03 PM
yeah, I got a great deal on the cosmos case at fry's (for some reason they were price matching the internet... Go figure!) I'll do some looking around here to see what other peoples cosmos' look like and where they place the pump. I'd also still like to get some facts to back up that the danger den tdx is outdated... Anyone?