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danmoody
01-20-2008, 12:23 PM
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd19/danmoody160/6hrorthos.jpg

This is what I got Picked it up from microcenter for 189 :up: Can get 4.2 on 1.4 vcore but Im scared to push the 45nm to high.

E7200

Q745A925 4.3Ghz 1.4 Vcore Plester Asus P5K-E watercooling
Q747A515 4.4Ghz 1.6 Vcore Palee02 NOT STABLE watercooling
Q749A366 4Ghz 1.42 Vcore Norman Bates Asus Commando
Q750A238 3.1Ghz 1,05 Vcore BreakFromyou DFI Lanparty P35 TR2S Air
Q750A238 4ghz 1.33 Vcore KAGD1 DFI Lanparty DK P35 TR2S watercooling
Q751A508 3.8Ghz 1.33Vcore Sommer Gigabyte EP35 DS4 TRUE 120
Q751A743 4Ghz 1.33 Vcore The Stilt Asus P5E3 Premium TRUE 120

E8200

Q740A621 4Ghz 1.21 Vcore Jupiler DFI Lanparty P35 TR2S watercooling
Q745A705 4.2Ghz 1.29 Vcore Chrish Foxconn MARS Air
Q746A513 4Ghz 1.33 Vcore Laragirl83 Gigabyte DS4 Air
Q746A513 4ghz 1.30 Vcore Achill3uS Asus P5K3 DLX
Q748A230 4ghz 1.26 Vcore Tuvok_LR Gigabyte P35DS3L Arctic Freezer Pro
Q748A230 4Ghz 1.21 Vcore oniL Asus P5B Dlx
Q750A079 4Ghz 1.31 Vcore Nidecker DFI Lanparty P35 TR2S TRUE 120
Q809A249 4.7Ghz 1.58 Vcore Rol.co Asus Striker II

E8300


Q812A147 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Nilos Gigabyte P35DS4 watercooling



E8400

Q740A478 4.25Ghz 1.41 Vcore Majestik DFI P35-T2RL watercooling
Q740A519 4Ghz 1.27 Vcore Codovader
Q740A523 4Ghz 1.36 Vcore Moodyman Abit IP35pro Arctic Freezer 7
Q740A523 4Ghz 1,37 Vcore Shampoo Asus P5N-E SLI 803 bios TRUE 120
Q740A525T 4Ghz 1.35 Vcore Mystupidmouth Asus P5K Dlx Air
Q740A553T 4.2Ghz 1.33 Vcore GrnFinger Asus Maximus Formula watercooling
Q740A553T 4Ghz 1.36 Vcore SuperTimor Asus P5K Premium
Q740A555T 4Ghz 1.31 Vcore Xvius Asus P5K Dlx Air
Q743A748 4Ghz 1.25 Vcore Turtletrax DFI Lanparty UT P35 Watercooling
Q743A748 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Bail W Asus P5K Dlx watercooling
Q743A748 4.4Ghz 1.36 Vcore Sofarfrome Asus Rampage watercooling
Q743A748 4,2Ghz 1,32 Vcore Zizo Asus P5B Dlx Scythe Ninja
Q743A748 4Ghz 1.32 Vcore Cpt Protom DFI DRK watercooling
Q743A797 4.4Ghz 1.40 Vcore Plastok Asus P5K Dlx
Q745A356 4,9Ghz 1,54 Vcore Zucker2K Asus Maximus Formula SE watercooling
Q745A356 4Ghz 1.35 Vcore Kryckter Asus P5K Dlx Air
Q745A357 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore xMrBunglex Intel DX38 Asus Silent Square
Q745A372 4.1Ghz 1.34 Vcore Truckchase Asus P5K Dlx 0705 bios watercooling
Q745A372 4Ghz 1.37 Vcore Arcanedeath Asus Maximus Formula SE 1004Bios Air
Q745A533 4.4Ghz 1,45 Vcore Sniper watercooling
Q745A533 4Ghz 1.27 Vcore Glenboy Asus Maximus Formula Air
Q745A551 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Iceywater Noctua heatsink
Q745A551 4Ghz 1.29 Vcore Fguarezi Asus Maximus Formula 0907 bios Gemini II
Q745A553 4ghz 1.31 Vcore Mk_Ultra Asus P5E TRUE 120
Q745A567 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Doakh DFI Lanparty UT P35 Air
Q745A567 4Ghz 1.26 Vcore ThatGuy Gigabyte X38DS4 Air
Q745A567 4Ghz 1.27 Vcore Vixx Asus Rampage
Q745A576 4Ghz 1.22 Vcore Hazardous
Q745A576 4Ghz 1.18 Vcore MrCape DFI Lanparty UT P35 TRUE 120
Q745A576 4.6Ghz 1.42 Vcore Flesheatinvirus
Q746A328 4Ghz 1,25 Vcore Loc.o Asus Commando Boxed cooler
Q746A328 4.6Ghz 1.60 Vcore V_Parello Asus Maximus Extreme 0904 bios Tuniq tower
Q746A349 4.9Ghz 1.65 Vcore Sepander DFI Lanparty UT P35 watercooling
Q746A351 4,2Ghz 1.36 Vcore luVPiloT Air
Q746A377 4.2Ghz 1.38 Vcore Merc14 Asus P5K Dlx 0705 Bios watercooling
Q746A377 4Ghz 1.33 Vcore Necron 66 Asus P5E Air
Q746A377 4Ghz 1.32 Vcore TsFroggy DFI Blood Iron Tuniq Tower
Q746A381 4Ghz 1.27 Vcore Kunaak Asus Maximus Extreme
Q746A381 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Plaicd Asus P5k Dlx
Q746A381 4Ghz 1.33 Vcore Rge Gigabyte P35DQ6 F7 Bios watercooling
Q746A474 3.6Ghz 1.08 Vcore Extreme ICE Asus P5K-E Air
Q746A474 4.3Ghz 1,30 Vcore Extreme ICE Asus P5K-E Air
Q746A476 4.7Ghz 1,60 Vcore T_M watercooling
Q746A477 4.3Ghz 1.39 Vcore Ad1tya Abit IP35 Pro watercooling
Q746A479 4.2Ghz 1.38 Vcore MaxLD Asus P5K-E 1004 Bios
Q746A485 4.3Ghz 1.42 Vcore Kiwi DFI Lanparty DRK
Q746A487 4Ghz 1.35 Vcore Hughyhunter eVGA 780i TRUE 120
Q746A488 4.5Ghz 1.48 Vcore Sonofander Asus Striker II watercooling
Q746A489 4Ghz 1.29 Vcore Boostfed Asus P5B Dlx 1226 Bios watercooling
Q746A489 4Ghz 1.26 Vcore .OCX Asus Maximus Formula watercooling
Q746A495 4ghz 1.20 Vcore Demon Asus Striker Extreme Air
Q746A496 4Ghz 1.27 Vcore Ovidiu Scythe Ninja
Q746A500 4ghz 1.37 Vcore Unclewebb
Q746A502 4Ghz 1.32 Vcore Leeghoofd Asus P5K Dlx 0705 bios watercooling
Q746A502 4Ghz 1.35 Vcore DerekTM
Q746A502 4Ghz 1.30 Vcore Mascaras Asus P5E TRUE 120
Q746A509 4.1ghz 1.37 Vcore Master Farkha Asus P5E TRUE 120
Q746A510 4.1Ghz 1.32 Vcore Gundamit DFI Blood Iron Air
Q746A518 4Ghz 1.27 Vcore Clocker Gigabyte P35 DS4 F12 bios
Q746A535 4.2Ghz 1.37 Vcore GooFace
Q746A556 4Ghz 1.26 Vcore DemonEyes DFI Lanparty DRK
Q746A556 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Hehe Asus P5B Dlx Air
Q746A589 4.3Ghz 1.39 Vcore Alcatraroz Asus P5K Dlx Zalman 9700
Q746A777 4.2Ghz 1.46 Vcore Aoch88 Foxconn MARS watercooling
Q747A761 4Ghz 1,40 Vcore Grimpy
Q748242 3.6Ghz 1.35 Vcore JoeBar Asus Maximus Formula SE watercooling
Q748A094 4.2Ghz 1.39 Vcore Gufy Asus P5B Dlx
Q748A102 4Ghz 1,36 Vcore Zeus Asus P5K-E watercooling
Q748A115 4.5Ghz 1,44 Vcore MrCape DFI Lanparty UT P35 TRUE 120
Q748A115 4Ghz 1,22 Vcore Redbull78 foxconn MARS TRUE 120
Q748A133 4Ghz 1.20 Vcore Dark22
Q748A141 4ghz 1.38 Vcore JoeBar Asus Maximus Formula SE watercooling
Q748A142 4 Ghz 1,29 Vcore Ten eVGA 780i watercooling
Q748A142 4Ghz 1.34 Vcore Higgins Asus P5B Dlx watercooling
Q748A144 4Ghz 1.35 Vcore Crazy Nutz Asus P5K-E watercooling
Q748A219 4ghz 1.39 Vcore Vinas DFI Blood Iron watercooling
Q748A219 4.2Ghz 1.40 Vcore Dnottis Asus P5K-E 1102 bios watercooling
Q750A032 4Ghz 1.45 Vcore WitchKing DFI Lanparty UT P35 watercooling
Q750A032 4Ghz 1.41 Vcore Glenboy Asus Maximus Formula Air
Q750A033 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Nikolas 61 DFI Lanparty UT P35 Air
Q750A196 4Ghz 1.37 Vcore Strategos Asus Rampage formula watercooling
Q750A205 4.4Ghz 1.45 Vcore AndyM Asus P5K Dlx 0809 bios watercooling
Q750A219 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore IcemaN22 Asus Commando Zalman 9700
Q801A290 4Ghz 1.42 Vcore Halo112538 DFI P35 watercooling
Q802A321 4Ghz 1.39 Vcore Sniggle DFI P35 UT T2R Tuniq Tower
Q802A489 4Ghz 1.38 Vcore Zlojack Asus Rampage formula watercooling
Q802A570 4Ghz 1.30 Vcore Kadir_Slayer Asus P5K-E TRUE 120
Q804A249 4Ghz 1.20 Vcore Mykou Asus P5K Premium Air
Q805A246 4Ghz 1.24 Vcore Leeghoofd Asus P5K Dlx 0812 bios watercooling
Q805A546 4Ghz 1.24 Vcore Leeghoofd Asus P5K Dlx 0812 bios watercooling
Q806A045 4.2Ghz 1.39 Vcore Gthr3k
Q806A320 4Ghz 1.33 Vcore Forr3sTT Gigabyte P35DS3L Zalman 9700
Q807A050 3.8Ghz 1.30 Vcore Jupiler DFI P35 T2R watercooling
Q807A191 4Ghz 1.23 Vcore Stephen23 watercooling
Q807A241 4.2Ghz 1.27 Vcore selloutkingz DFI Lanparty DRK watercooling
Q807A261 4.3Ghz 1.38 Vcore Simsons2 Asus P5E3 Dlx
Q807A269 4.5Ghz 1.38 Vcore funkflix XFX 790I watercooling
Q807A276 4Ghz 1.22 Vcore Webwilli Asus P5E3 Premium watercooling
Q808A256 4.1Ghz 1.33 Vcore Brahmzy Asus P5E watercooling
Q808A451 4Ghz 1.24 Vcore Max_87
Q812A233 4Ghz 1.33 Vcore Turbodream Asus Formula
Q812A247 4Ghz 1.40 Vcore Zicada Asus Rampage watercooling
Q814A015 4.4Ghz 1.30 Vcore Dagaladis Asus P5K Pro 1001 bios TRUE 120
Q816A044 4Ghz 1.37 Vcore Leeghoofd Asus P5K Dlx 0812 bios watercooling


E8500

Q740A476T 4.2Ghz 1.32 Vcore Giorgos Th Asus Maximus Rampage watercooling
Q740A479T 4Ghz 1.23 Vcore Zoob DFI Lanparty X38 T2R Scythe Ninja
Q740A493T 5.3Ghz 1,70 Vcore Eva2000 Asus Commando 1602 Bios Single Stage
Q740A518 4Ghz 1.29 Vcore Joe.Denice Asus Rampage Formula TRUE 120
Q740A519 4,5Ghz 1,45 Vcore Doom St DFI P35 DK Phase
Q743A798 4.4Ghz 1.45 Vcore Dj883U2 Asus Maximus Extreme watercooling
Q745A703 4Ghz 1.28 Vcore Concrete
Q746A363 4.3Ghz 1.45 Vcore TurboDream Asus Formula Air
Q746A363 4.2Ghz 1.42 Vcore Mr Hydes Asus Rampage Formula Tuniq Tower
Q748A212 4Ghz 1.25 Vcore Mtrx Asus P5E Air
Q807A067 4.4Ghz 1.48 Vcore Giorgos Th Asus Maximus Rampage watercooling
Q809A655 4Ghz 1.20 Vcore Pt1t
Q813A347 4GHz 1.28 Vcore Nuclearjock Asus Striker II watercooling


Xeon 3110

Q745A784 4Ghz 1.35 Vcore SfdMalex Asus P5B TRUE 120
Q745A784 4Ghz 1.37 Vcore wadechan Abit IP35-Pro watercooling
Q746A534 4.3Ghz 1.41 Vcore Mykou Asus P5K Premium Air
Q746A534 4.3Ghz 1,35 Vcore Plastok Asus P5K Dlx
Q746A535 4Ghz 1.29 Vcore Gufy Asus P5B Dlx watercooling
Q746A535 4Ghz 1.32 Vcore Eldonko DFI P35 T2RS
Q746A535 4Ghz 1.3 Vcore Xvys Asus P5K Dlx TRUE 120
Q750A158 4Ghz 1.26 Vcore Eva2000 Asus Blitz formula watercooling
Q751A439 4.2Ghz 1.35 Vcore Alexio Gigabyte P35DS4
Q751A439 4.2Ghz 1.33 Vcore Garrett Asus Striker II watercooling
Q805A165 4.2Ghz 1.37 Vcore Dnottis Asus P5K-E watercooling
Q805A165 4Ghz 1.32 Vcore Jupiler DFI UT P35 T2RS watercooling
Q806A227 4Ghz 1.30 Vcore Datektrader Abit IP35-Pro Peltier
Q807A091 4Ghz 1.21 Vcore Cy4n1d3 Gigabyte P35DS3
Q807A091 4Ghz 1.21 Vcore Mykou Asus P5K Premium Air
Q807A091 4,5Ghz 1.36 Vcore Syl Asus P5K-E watercooling



Updated 22/05/2008

CERO
01-20-2008, 12:29 PM
Nice what is the VID/ and batch?

btw I ques u made a typo @ the Title

danmoody
01-20-2008, 03:09 PM
the batch number is #q740a523
version#: e27439-001
pack date 12/27/07
s-spec: SLAPL

which one is vid?

Infa
01-20-2008, 03:31 PM
If you open Coretemp, and then Look in the middle, it says VID: blabla

there are your VID, and VID are the cpu's default voltage.

regards.

danmoody
01-20-2008, 03:38 PM
If you open Coretemp, and then Look in the middle, it says VID: blabla

there are your VID, and VID are the cpu's default voltage.

regards.

thank you the VID: 1.1125v

Truckchase!
01-20-2008, 03:45 PM
Here's my start:

vCore in BIOS: 1.375 (minimize vDroop enabled)
FSB Term: 1.2
NB: 1.4
PLL: 1.6
vMEM: 2.15
Cooling: Water, DD TDX block (yeah I need a new one)

FPO/BATCH# Q745A372
Pack Date 12/20/07

Don't have coretemp running right now (vista x64) to get vid

Haven't taken it past 1.375 yet, but it seems to scale 50 Mhz for every .250v since 1.3v, so I'm kinda getting diminishing returns. I'm sure I could comfortably surpass 4.2Ghz with halfway decent voltage, but I'm not sure what I want to run 24/7 vCore as of yet...

disruptfam
01-20-2008, 05:23 PM
the vid is also on the box the of the proc yeah?

deadlock7
01-20-2008, 05:30 PM
No that's the max volts..

dinos22
01-20-2008, 05:34 PM
hi guys nice CPUs for both of you

i did some testing with E8500 CPUs recently

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=173771

can you guys test MAX fsb please on your chips :up:

danmoody
01-20-2008, 05:56 PM
yeah ill do some testing it doesn't seem to like more than 480 thou

dragonhunter
01-20-2008, 06:06 PM
1.45Vcore using Vapo LS. I don't know if I should push it further and end up with a dead CPU :shrug:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/341/43ghz145vev1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

itslogz
01-20-2008, 06:26 PM
I better be posting in this thread soon.

Reserved for my hopes to have one at the start of febuary.

turtletrax
01-20-2008, 06:34 PM
Looks like mine is a dog. I tried 4.05 ghz upto 1.35v and would not boot, Winblows would get half loaded and give IRQ_Less_than_Equal. Could be my DFI and me missing a setting but I DK.

Drat.

Bail_w
01-20-2008, 08:45 PM
Looks like mine is a dog. I tried 4.05 ghz upto 1.35v and would not boot, Winblows would get half loaded and give IRQ_Less_than_Equal. Could be my DFI and me missing a setting but I DK.

Drat.

It could be your ram stability.

icywater
01-20-2008, 09:06 PM
Here is my E8400
FPO Q745A551

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8440/othorsue9.jpg

lowfat
01-20-2008, 09:22 PM
I've I can do 4GHz stable like above, I will be satisfied :toast:

-n7-
01-20-2008, 09:37 PM
These are impressive.

Seems like over 4 GHz you gotta pour in the vcore...

But ~ 4 GHz with decent vcore for 24/7 is sweet :D

I can't see myself going back to duals though...like the quad too much.

RPGWiZaRD
01-20-2008, 11:23 PM
I want at least a 4.2GHz 24/7 clock out of the E8400 I'll pick up or I'm disappointed. :D 4GHz is too easy and normal for Wolfdale. :p:

Dumo
01-21-2008, 03:33 AM
How long is minimum orthos run (with smsll ffts) to be considered stable?

rastaseb
01-21-2008, 03:47 AM
2 hours !

Counter CS
01-21-2008, 04:22 AM
What cooling are you using ?


Here is my E8400
FPO Q745A551

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8440/othorsue9.jpg

kiwi
01-21-2008, 07:18 AM
How long is minimum orthos run (with smsll ffts) to be considered stable?

Actually orthos is considered kinda buggy. Better run original prime v255 or later:
http://mersenne.org/gimps/


Custom test 1024-4096 would be good for 6+ hours

icywater
01-21-2008, 08:39 AM
What cooling are you using ?

aircooling nocture heatsink

Truckchase!
01-21-2008, 08:48 AM
can you guys test MAX fsb please on your chips :up:

I'll start down that path D, honestly I've never qualified my board for it's maxFSB so I've got some work to do to get a qualified answer....

Zucker2k
01-21-2008, 02:26 PM
Here's mine, Q745A356

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=301016 Using watercooling in my sig. With wofdales, cpu temps are not as much of a difference maker as they used to be. I don't even keep an eye on mine when overclocking anymore.

turtletrax
01-21-2008, 02:32 PM
What Vcore is that at Zucker?

I have mine at 4.5Ghz 1.4Vcore right now, but with the DFI it seems I have to spend more time on the GTL's to get that balanced first.

Zucker2k
01-21-2008, 02:49 PM
What Vcore is that at Zucker?

I have mine at 4.5Ghz 1.4Vcore right now, but with the DFI it seems I have to spend more time on the GTL's to get that balanced first.

For 4.86 Ghz I needed 1.536v

icywater
01-21-2008, 06:05 PM
For 4.86 Ghz I needed 1.536v

can you orthos on this, or just get into window?

Zucker2k
01-21-2008, 06:16 PM
can you orthos on this, or just get into window?

:shocked: that was a suicide shot. Maybe with higher rated ram who knows? :shrug:

ghost_recon88
01-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Hey everyone, I'm originally from ocforums.com so don't hate too much :shrug:

Anyways, I'm having a problem getting my retail E8400 prime stable @ 4.5GHz. Heres my original thread on ocforums, http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=544212

My current setup consists of a lapped E8400 (batch Q746A381), a lapped Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, 4GB of G-Skill DDR2-8000, Abit IP35-E (BIOS 14) and a Corsair HX620 PSU.

Basically is that the best BIOS for overclocking Wolfdales with? I have my NB @ 1.41 volts, SB @ 1.6, CPU VTT @ 1.23, and vcore @ 1.58actual after vdroop (according to CPU-Z). That voltage seems kinda high for only 4.5GHz, so I'm wondering if theres some other voltage I'm not increasing enough. I haven't seen many (or any at all) Wolfdale results on the IP35-E, so I don't exactly know what I'm shooting for. I know my RAM is capable of running 530MHz FSB, and I took my board that high on my old E6300.

Motley
01-21-2008, 07:04 PM
Whoa there nelly, what are you complaining about? Not getting over 4.5GHz on an E8400...

You should be happy with that, thats a very nice OC.:welcome:

icywater
01-21-2008, 07:06 PM
:shocked: that was a suicide shot. Maybe with higher rated ram who knows? :shrug:

here is my shot, Maxed my P5B-D

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4816/pi1muf9.jpg

Forsaken1
01-21-2008, 07:25 PM
Wow icy.Have to set my rig outside.Gives me something to shoot at:yepp: .

coo-coo-clocker
01-21-2008, 07:26 PM
icy, that is awesome! :shocked:
I may have to start hunting for an e8400!

ghost_recon88
01-21-2008, 07:26 PM
Whoa there nelly, what are you complaining about? Not getting over 4.5GHz on an E8400...

You should be happy with that, thats a very nice OC.:welcome:

Thanks for the welcome :clap:

Aww man, I was hoping for at least 4600MHz. Think those voltages I have are kinda high?

Motley
01-21-2008, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the welcome :clap:

Aww man, I was hoping for at least 4600MHz. Think those voltages I have are kinda high?

You're at 1.58v? For testing is OK. But 24/7 I would not go over 1.45v.

ghost_recon88
01-21-2008, 07:30 PM
You're at 1.58v? For testing is OK. But 24/7 I would not go over 1.45v.

Ok, I'll keep that in mind for doing my 24/7 overclock. A lot of people here seem to have a ton of $ to throw away on LN2 cooling and other kind of exotic coolers eh'?

aznsniper911
01-21-2008, 07:32 PM
Ok, I'll keep that in mind for doing my 24/7 overclock. A lot of people here seem to have a ton of $ to throw away on LN2 cooling and other kind of exotic coolers eh'?

Well it is XtremeSystems so I wouldn't say it's really out of place! Hmm, no one has an E8500 so far? Was really hopping to see how that compares to E8400 overclocking!

Retrolock
01-21-2008, 07:42 PM
wow! these 8400's will finally realize my dreams of reaching 4ghz! (and then some) keep on posting guys!

Motley
01-21-2008, 07:44 PM
Well it is XtremeSystems so I wouldn't say it's really out of place! Hmm, no one has an E8500 so far? Was really hopping to see how that compares to E8400 overclocking!

eva2000 got the E8500 @ 4896Mhz with 1.6v. Not sure what cooling, but I think thats on Air.

I just ordered the E8500, should have it here by the weekend. I hope to get 4.6-4.8GHz on 1.45-1.5v. As soon as EVGA comes out with the 680i BIOS update this week!

Zucker2k
01-21-2008, 07:45 PM
here is my shot, Maxed my P5B-D

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4816/pi1muf9.jpg

Nice, but that is your ss shot. I bet my chip could do more than that on an ss.

ghost_recon88
01-21-2008, 07:49 PM
Is Core Temp 0.96.1 reading the Wolfdales temps correctly? or is it still off? Appears its 5c off on the T.j. Max temp.

icywater
01-21-2008, 07:51 PM
Nice, but that is your ss shot. I bet my chip could do more than that on an ss.


i know i can do more, my mboard hold me back.

aznsniper911
01-21-2008, 07:52 PM
eva2000 got the E8500 @ 4896Mhz with 1.6v. Not sure what cooling, but I think thats on Air.

I just ordered the E8500, should have it here by the weekend. I hope to get 4.6-4.8GHz on 1.45-1.5v. As soon as EVGA comes out with the 680i BIOS update this week! nah he's using water for his setup of the two E8500 but I was hopping to see how the different batches overclock!

Battle_Rattle
01-21-2008, 08:11 PM
Boys and Girls....

It's up to you, but gives us all a break and post your max stuff... give it time and pile it on.

Danmoody.... You made it official ...You going to make an excel sheet and update the first post?

Grim Reaper pretty much hit the nail on the head

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127379



Or is there a wolfdale one going already?

aznsniper911
01-21-2008, 08:15 PM
^That was a nice thread but too bad he stopped after a while! It seems they want to push this thread for the E8400/E8500 overclocks, only time will tell!

Counter CS
01-22-2008, 05:19 AM
Ppl i can´t find anywhere a store with those E8400 in stock.

Here in Portugal they said that those CPU was added to next month...
WTF :confused: Is this true ? :shrug:

sambir
01-22-2008, 05:27 AM
Could a e8400 max air stable overclock beat a q6600 @ 3.6Ghz in games? In 3dmark06 it cant but that doesn't mean that it's not faster then a q6600 if im right. Here in The Netherlands the cpu is for sale on only one shop. e8400 is 270 euro haha scammers...Other shops are all out of stock.

Mr. Nillionaire
01-22-2008, 05:59 AM
here is my shot, Maxed my P5B-D

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4816/pi1muf9.jpg


Ewww, me likes. OF which production week is that?

kiwi
01-22-2008, 07:55 AM
Could a e8400 max air stable overclock beat a q6600 @ 3.6Ghz in games? In 3dmark06 it cant but that doesn't mean that it's not faster then a q6600 if im right. Here in The Netherlands the cpu is for sale on only one shop. e8400 is 270 euro haha scammers...Other shops are all out of stock.

Yep, most games don't take a full advantage of 4 cores yet

doakh
01-22-2008, 09:12 AM
Well I really notice any significant performance improvement while running applications if I upgrade from an e6600 to e8400? The price seems very reasonable and I am very tempted.

panfist
01-22-2008, 09:16 AM
Has anyone been able to get the e8400 going with an ASUS p5n32-e SLI plus? If so please let me know what you did or what BIOS version you're using.

SteveLord
01-22-2008, 09:22 AM
Whats the word on air cooling results?

bonzo_catalin
01-22-2008, 09:30 AM
On air plus an VantecTornado on top :D

BlueAqua
01-22-2008, 09:31 AM
Has anyone been able to get the e8400 going with an ASUS p5n32-e SLI plus? If so please let me know what you did or what BIOS version you're using.

I got it to work on my Striker Extreme which is very similar. Some beta bios 1501 is the best one I found for my E8400 on it. ~515 FSB

kitfit1
01-22-2008, 09:47 AM
On air plus an VantecTornado on top :D

:confused: That makes about as much sense as an ashtray on a motorbike.

hiwa
01-22-2008, 10:17 AM
here is mine

P5k3 Deluxe
CellShock 1800
XFX 8800 GTS G92
TT 750
WaterChiller 5°C

4797
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t90_screen000.jpg (http://photodorp.com/out.php/i90_screen000.jpg)

4806
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t91_screen001.jpg (http://photodorp.com/out.php/i91_screen001.jpg)

4851
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t92_screen003.jpg (http://photodorp.com/out.php/i92_screen003.jpg)

4845 2mb spi
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t93_screen004.jpg (http://photodorp.com/out.php/i93_screen004.jpg)

561 maxfsb
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t94_screen009.jpg (http://photodorp.com/out.php/i94_screen009.jpg)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=299755

5002
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=299756

4009 1.30 prime 20min
http://photodorp.com/out.php/t95_screen009.jpg (http://photodorp.com/out.php/i95_screen009.jpg)

WiTcHkInG
01-22-2008, 10:47 AM
Hey everyone, I'm originally from ocforums.com so don't hate too much :shrug:

Anyways, I'm having a problem getting my retail E8400 prime stable @ 4.5GHz. Heres my original thread on ocforums, http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=544212

My current setup consists of a lapped E8400 (batch Q746A381), a lapped Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, 4GB of G-Skill DDR2-8000, Abit IP35-E (BIOS 14) and a Corsair HX620 PSU.

Basically is that the best BIOS for overclocking Wolfdales with? I have my NB @ 1.41 volts, SB @ 1.6, CPU VTT @ 1.23, and vcore @ 1.58actual after vdroop (according to CPU-Z). That voltage seems kinda high for only 4.5GHz, so I'm wondering if theres some other voltage I'm not increasing enough. I haven't seen many (or any at all) Wolfdale results on the IP35-E, so I don't exactly know what I'm shooting for. I know my RAM is capable of running 530MHz FSB, and I took my board that high on my old E6300.

play about with the CPU PLL volts a bit, more NB might help also.

Nice clock otherwise :up:

yenclas
01-22-2008, 11:33 AM
Hello I'm Spanish.

Sorry by my bad English.

Today arrived my new 8400 and set to this clock stable.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8065/dibujokb2.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujokb2.jpg)

My problem is temp

Idle: 43-44 with my Thermalright Ultra 120

It's normal ?

Praimm
01-22-2008, 12:09 PM
Hello I'm Spanish.

Sorry by my bad English.

Today arrived my new 8400 and set to this clock stable.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8065/dibujokb2.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujokb2.jpg)

My problem is temp

Idle: 43-44 with my Thermalright Ultra 120

It's normal ?

Have you tried to reseat the cooler? If that doesnt help see if the paste is spread properly.

Damien
01-22-2008, 12:50 PM
:confused: That makes about as much sense as an ashtray on a motorbike.

cpu-z isn't showing correctly, it's at 4.4 i believe from the window below superpi

yenclas
01-22-2008, 01:32 PM
Have you tried to reseat the cooler? If that doesnt help see if the paste is spread properly.

Checked two things and nothing.

Should I rma this processor ?

danmoody
01-22-2008, 01:35 PM
Boys and Girls....

It's up to you, but gives us all a break and post your max stuff... give it time and pile it on.

Danmoody.... You made it official ...You going to make an excel sheet and update the first post?

Grim Reaper pretty much hit the nail on the head

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127379



Or is there a wolfdale one going already?

I didnt know there was more to it then just making the thread sorry for being a noob

trans am
01-22-2008, 01:38 PM
On air plus an VantecTornado on top :D

on water plus an apogee gt on top :D

Dumo
01-22-2008, 02:57 PM
On air plus an VantecTornado on top :DDisable EIST in bios, so it won't revert back to multi 6 when idle in windows.
Nice chip:up:

Shampoo
01-22-2008, 03:07 PM
Baaaaah, I think I have a dud.

I have a separate thread going here and in a P5N-E SLI thread at anandtech forums.

Batch: Q740A523
Packdate: 12/20/07.

I'm priming right now 450x9 @ 1.360-1.376vcore, according to cpu-z.

Failed orthos after 20mins when I had it a couple ticks down from the current vcore setting in the bios.

I'm hitting temps of Core0:57, Core1:58 with a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with a Vantec Stealth 120mm fan in a P182 case, but currently being run on its side and open front and side panels.

Kinda toasty. I wish I could've gotten a good chip for once!! Like (sorry forgot name) watery?

I thought I'd get lucky and get one that could stay under 50 degrees at over 4GHz, but nooooooooo, I'm struggling to get it stable at 4GHz with high voltage. Bah!!!!!

I've got another one of these of the same batch sitting at the office for a client's system, which will never see overclocking. I wonder if I should test that sucker out first.

I don't think it will do much better since it's from the same batch.

I should be happy nonetheless since it wasn't officially confirmed my 650i sli chipset could handle these processors, or my motherboard for that matter, Asus P5N-E SLI. (bios 0803)

Truckchase!
01-22-2008, 04:04 PM
I didnt know there was more to it then just making the thread sorry for being a noob

Dan do you want to do it? We could see if we could get some admin help and such.....

On an on-topic note, mine did a full 24 hr prime @ 4130 @ 1.375v (BIOS set). Stepping info and such is above.

Did anyone notice that vDroop on the wolfdale chips seems to be significantly more prevalent on the same boards? I had .2v difference between my set bios vCore and my reported vCore on my Conroe, where as the diff with the Wolfdale is like .4v.

Shampoo
01-22-2008, 04:39 PM
Okay I'm up to 1.408v on the cpu.

Orthos failed at a previous attempt after 48mins.

I'm losing hope.

Could be the board of course, since P5N-E SLI boards don't have official bios for these cpus yet.

I couldn't get my E6400 or E6420 stable at 450 FSB, so maybe it IS the board.

Thinking about picking up a P5K-E anyways.

nzbleach
01-22-2008, 05:02 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/nmtrader/TJ06%20mod/prime-largefft.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a306/nmtrader/TJ06%20mod/pi1m-suicidechop.jpg

Shampoo
01-22-2008, 05:13 PM
Okay I've given up and am going to either try another cpu or motherboard.

P5N-E SLI won't run stable @ 450*9 with ample amounts of voltage to the northbridge and cpu.

Could just be mine or could be because no official bios yet. ?

Edit:: Should've done this before...going to check stability at default settings of 3GHz, with default voltage and 1333MHz FSB. See if it's the board and bios.

Kunaak
01-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Mine - Batch Code # Q746A381
S-Spec - SLAPL
Pack Date - 1:04:08

1.27 volts - 9 x 450 = stable. game and prime tested for about 2 hours so far.

1.4 - 4.3 ghz stable for short periods of time.

1.5 stable for 4.5 ghz for short periods of time.

havent messed with the voltages and max OC much yet.

highest FSB so far, 565.
lots of testing still to go.
just giving my results.

Shampoo
01-22-2008, 05:26 PM
I guess I have to wait for a bios release or just go out and pick up a P5K-E, because I just ran stock settings and it failed orthos and froze my system within a few seconds (30seconds to 1min).

BlueAqua
01-22-2008, 05:39 PM
Phase change.

Max FSB:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/590PI.jpg

Max Mhz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/5132.jpg

Max stable PI in my short bench session:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/BlueAqua/5GPI.jpg

turtleonviagra
01-22-2008, 06:22 PM
Anybody got a E8400 from Newegg ($199 :) ) yet? If so how are they clocking and what is the batch #, pack date, etc.

Penguin463
01-22-2008, 06:31 PM
Glad to see that intel's new dual cores have some decent headroom for OC's

Keep em comin guys :up:

derektm
01-22-2008, 06:37 PM
Anybody got a E8400 from Newegg ($199 :) ) yet? If so how are they clocking and what is the batch #, pack date, etc.

Mine from Newegg comes in tomorrow but I was wondering the same. Did you get one from Newegg?

Xvys
01-22-2008, 06:43 PM
Okay I've given up and am going to either try another cpu or motherboard.

P5N-E SLI won't run stable @ 450*9 with ample amounts of voltage to the northbridge and cpu.

Could just be mine or could be because no official bios yet. ?

Edit:: Should've done this before...going to check stability at default settings of 3GHz, with default voltage and 1333MHz FSB. See if it's the board and bios.

Try 445 x 9, Shampoo. My old E8400 wouldn't boot into Windows at 450FSB with 1.55v, but at 445 it was happy as a clam at lower voltage. I have the exaxt same batch Q740 12/20/07 packdate as you. I took my old one back today as I had bad core readings and this new one is about bang on. I have just booted into Windows at 450 x 9, but it is not stable. Not sure any other week would be any better without superior cooling.

road-runner
01-22-2008, 06:45 PM
Anybody got a E8400 from Newegg ($199 :) ) yet? If so how are they clocking and what is the batch #, pack date, etc.

Say $224.99 at NewEgg, I was thinking about ordering one...

unclewebb
01-22-2008, 06:46 PM
Shampoo: It has always been a struggle to get boards with the Nvidia chipset to reliably run at 450 MHz and beyond.

BlueAqua: Thanks for showing us what these new 45nm processors are capable of with adequate core voltage. Very nice. :up:

turtleonviagra
01-22-2008, 06:46 PM
Mine from Newegg comes in tomorrow but I was wondering the same. Did you get one from Newegg?
Yeah getting mine Thursday. How much did you pay, I talked to a online rep and got $25 off, so I payed $199.99 shipped :p:

adamsleath
01-22-2008, 07:04 PM
are their enuf 4x00's for oc database yet?:)

CanadianTSi
01-22-2008, 07:27 PM
Anyone else notice that all 8400's seem to have a VID of 1.125v and 8500's are 1.050

bt_medic04
01-22-2008, 07:28 PM
Mine - Batch Code # Q746A381
S-Spec - SLAPL
Pack Date - 1:04:08

1.27 volts - 9 x 450 = stable. game and prime tested for about 2 hours so far.

1.4 - 4.3 ghz stable for short periods of time.

1.5 stable for 4.5 ghz for short periods of time.

havent messed with the voltages and max OC much yet.

highest FSB so far, 565.
lots of testing still to go.
just giving my results.

i have the same exact batch code and pack date. mine does 450 x 9 @ 1.275v. low volts for 4ghz, but once you cross that threshold, the voltage requirements jump dramatically. for 475 x 9 i need 1.375v. 500 x 9 needs more than 1.45v as i cant boot into windows with those settings.

Kryckter
01-22-2008, 07:31 PM
I have one from NewEgg.

Batch # Q745A356
Pack Date - 12/27/07

I can get 450 x 9 with 1.35 vCore. (1.375 in Bios)

Anymore than that and it crashes, no matter the vCore, But I am pretty sure that is my memory holding it back. I have 4 gig (2 x 2gig) G.Skill 1006. It is at 900 mhz. Anymore than 950 mhz on the memory and the system crashes constantly. This is on a P5K Deluxe Board.

dengyong
01-22-2008, 07:44 PM
I talked to a online rep and got $25 off, so I payed $199.99 shipped :p:

How's that work ?

Shampoo
01-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Well I've decided to give back the cpu to my boss and use it in a client's system.

I'm gonna wait on this. My system just isn't stable at default settings either, so bios update is awaiting.

As for this batch? I don't know, but it looks like a lot of people are having to pump a lot of voltage into their E8400s to get above 4GHz or even 4GHz stable.

I will wait on this.

Cheers,
Mike

danmoody
01-22-2008, 08:29 PM
i dont even know how you use excel, sorry an admin can do it

davemelb
01-22-2008, 09:18 PM
I got three E8400 retail CPUs to 590fsb on warm air (Summer in my land) with Asus P5B Deluxe Rev 1.04G. That's 590fsb dual 32M Superpi stable.

Results here, but something very odd occurred too.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174145

P5B Deluxe owners, don't throw your board away yet. Test it with 45mm :)

lefy
01-22-2008, 09:57 PM
is there really that much performance variance from different batches at this point? where do you buy these that they let you inspect the box prior? seems like ordering online is just not worth it if there's that much oc success relying on the batch :(

X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
01-22-2008, 11:01 PM
Ok here is my first test with my new E8400 C2D Q746A474
VID: 1.100v

Asus P5K-E
8400 3.6GHz 1.08v
PNY 8800GTS 512
2GB Crucial Balistix 9600
Crappy cooler using Liquis pro



Under Load:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2905/36ghz108vloadmq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



When on idle:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9475/36ghz108vidleza5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Kunaak
01-23-2008, 12:36 AM
i have the same exact batch code and pack date. mine does 450 x 9 @ 1.275v. low volts for 4ghz, but once you cross that threshold, the voltage requirements jump dramatically. for 475 x 9 i need 1.375v. 500 x 9 needs more than 1.45v as i cant boot into windows with those settings.

your just expecting too much.

4.5 ghz on air, isnt gonna be stable, or easy. even with these.

sure, it can be done. mine can do almost 4.8 on air so far.
but not much is stable past 4.2-4.3ish.
atleast, not to the point where I am willing to push more Vcore into these.

I am still learning the ins and outs of my CPU here.
it OC's insanely, but getting stable is the hard part so far.
these are very jittery little processors.
alittle voltage off, and you will be unstable. yet they boot at almost any speed you set them at.

xMrBunglex
01-23-2008, 01:45 AM
E8400
Batch# Q745A357
Pack Date 01/04/08

my P5W mobo feels so dated now. i actually traded a P5B-D for this because i was more interested in CrossFire performance than a high FSB.

since my BIOS sucks, i'm stuck at 1.225 Vcore for now. i was able to hit 425 FSB (3.825), which is my motherboard's limit. i have no idea what my new CPU is capable of. time to start saving for an X38.

pcfreak
01-23-2008, 03:02 AM
I got three E8400 retail CPUs to 590fsb on warm air (Summer in my land) with Asus P5B Deluxe Rev 1.04G. That's 590fsb dual 32M Superpi stable.

Results here, but something very odd occurred too.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=174145

P5B Deluxe owners, don't throw your board away yet. Test it with 45mm :)

Dave could you please give some more info about your 748A cpu regarding clocks-volts required (4ghz and up)? I need to choose between 2 of them...
thanks

turtleonviagra
01-23-2008, 03:16 AM
How's that work ?
I tried to price match their price to onsale's.com and they did. So they just took $25 off the price :)

GOESA
01-23-2008, 04:32 AM
Guys, I need some help, I have got a E8400 Q744a - i have problems getting 4ghz stable on gigabyte P35-ds3 even at 1,425v it failed, but I have a suspecion that my mobo undervolts alot, I set 1,425v in bios an CPU-z and HWmonitior show the vcore at 1.36-1.376v .

some one got any special setting they have to disable to get it clocking better? I see people getting 4ghz at 1.3v in bios.

Did I get a dud?`

/Grau

bonzo_catalin
01-23-2008, 05:58 AM
:confused: That makes about as much sense as an ashtray on a motorbike.
I don't think i understand .

on water plus an apogee gt on top :D
It is air , as i said before .

Disable EIST in bios, so it won't revert back to multi 6 when idle in windows.
Nice chip:up:

I know that :yepp: , i kept C1E enable to cool down much faster . I forget , Q740A480T. Next time on Dimas SS :up:


http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6696/setupeo7.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setupeo7.jpg)

CERO
01-23-2008, 06:10 AM
E8400 with PFO# Q748A102 will arrive here tomorrow, I can recall I didnt saw any results from this week. Hope it is a good clocker, will keep posting

=[PULSAR]=
01-23-2008, 08:35 AM
On air plus an VantecTornado on top :D

how stable was that?

K404
01-23-2008, 08:48 AM
Please can I ask a favour of some E85/E84 owners....

Please can someone run a few 3DM06 runs at xxxMHz and xxx+200MHz and report back the CPU scores, id like to see the scores and scaling.

Thanks! First person to help gets a pack of cookies of the flavour of their choice :p:

Dosagex
01-23-2008, 09:33 AM
when does the E8500 release in the states?

Zeus
01-23-2008, 09:54 AM
Got mine today.

E8400 SLAPL FPO# Q748A102 pack date 01/04/2008

It's not one of the best, needs 1.36V for 4Ghz orthos stable but i reached my goal of sub 10 seconds:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/SuperPifactory/1M9953.jpg

Unfortunately it took a lot of voltage, above 1.6V didn't help much though.

My cpu is on watercooling but gets even warmer than my E6600 B2.

SIOUX
01-23-2008, 09:55 AM
I just want people to know that i have been running an E8400ES chip for 4 months now. And prime would fail this chip at 4ghz 1.45v after 11 minutes. no matter what voltage was set, it was just not stable at 4ghz Prime. BUT...i can play all newer game for a hole day without a crash at 4ghz 1.38v, wich would fail prime instantly. Actely i never had a crash at 4 ghz 1.38v no matter what i did. :)

So i think we must look into this. i think i remember that this happend with some AMD chips in the past??anybody remember that? it would also fail prime, but be rock stable for 24/7 use?? :)

Also i see these new E8400 retails doing 4700mhz on air, and 5ghz on Vapo LS. now my ES would only go to 4200mhz stable, but it did the same as newer chips on VAPO (about 5ghz) :)


I also got a retail today. This schip runs so hot. 70c on both cores at only 1.35v on WATER :( reseated the cooler 3 times...no luck :(

CERO
01-23-2008, 10:10 AM
Got mine today.

E8400 SLAPL FPO# Q748A102 pack date 01/04/2008

It's not one of the best, needs 1.36V for 4Ghz orthos stable but i reached my goal of sub 10 seconds:

Judging from other results( altho I havent seen any 8 hours+ prime95 results so far ) this isnt idd a satisfying result. I will have mine 2morrow with exact same PFO....

Praz
01-23-2008, 10:16 AM
Unfortunately I don't believe there is no one benchmark that will show stability 100%. I saw the same thing on the ICFX3200. Could run any stress test program there was with 3dMark looping at the same time for hours on end. But Prime would fail in under 3 hours.

I think the days of Prime stability ended quite a while ago. Not only is it no longer the definitive test of stability any longer but its extremely hard on the board and components to constantly be hammered like that.

Plaicd
01-23-2008, 10:44 AM
Got a E8400 today purchased from zzf.
Core temp shows-vid=1.1000v-TjMax 105c
Box is marked,s-spec,SLAPL,fpo/batch-Q746A381
Pack date-01/04/08

Letting it prime at stock for now to let the tm paste settle in.
Will oc it later.

AriciU
01-23-2008, 10:52 AM
I just want people to know that i have been running an E8400ES chip for 4 months now. And prime would fail this chip at 4ghz 1.45v after 11 minutes. no matter what voltage was set, it was just not stable at 4ghz Prime. BUT...i can play all newer game for a hole day without a crash at 4ghz 1.38v, wich would fail prime instantly. Actely i never had a crash at 4 ghz 1.38v no matter what i did. :)

So i think we must look into this. i think i remember that this happend with some AMD chips in the past??anybody remember that? it would also fail prime, but be rock stable for 24/7 use?? :)

Also i see these new E8400 retails doing 4700mhz on air, and 5ghz on Vapo LS. now my ES would only go to 4200mhz stable, but it did the same as newer chips on VAPO (about 5ghz) :)


I also got a retail today. This schip runs so hot. 70c on both cores at only 1.35v on WATER :( reseated the cooler 3 times...no luck :(


That's exactly what happened to me and my E6750. I could do anything at 3760Mhz at 1.57v. It would pass 1 hour of OCCT, run any game for hours without any glitches, compiled hundreds of programs, including the kernel (on my linux OS) and my max uptime was about 3 weeks or so. Prime/Orthos would fail after 40 minutes though. The hell with Prime/orthos as far as i'm concerned :up:

bonzo_catalin
01-23-2008, 11:02 AM
=;2720222']how stable was that?

If you mean Prime95 , Orthos or OCCT , i do not know , i never kept my cpu other than default with C1E enable for 24/7, and i have a few ( E6600ES , E6600 , E2160 , E2140 , E6850 ) . I go higher as i can for SPI 1MB and 3DMarks .

sambir
01-23-2008, 11:16 AM
Well i got my e8400 and i will post some results but i cannot boot at 9x500 not even 6x500 it hangs at ram check i have the maximus formula. My ram runs fine at 1066 5-5-5-15 but i cant boot at 1000mhz ram. I know for sure it has to do with the divider or some sort. Maybe transaction or static read control. Anyone have an idea? Ooh and 1 core is hotter then the other when stressed they are same around 50 degrees

doom_st
01-23-2008, 12:35 PM
Q740A519
pack date 01/04/08
vid 1.05
cooling custom phase

24/7
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/a9wodsdfdtrraraio9v3.jpg

Spi 1m

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5503/1mfg6.jpg

mrcape
01-23-2008, 12:39 PM
Doom_St yes! That's what I like to see man. Now to open mine up and check it out.

Forsaken1
01-23-2008, 01:05 PM
Off to a decent start?Or maybe the end:shrug: .

Q745A372
Vid:1.0375
12/20/07
Water cooled

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p87/Forsaken1_photos/505x9.jpg

AriciU
01-23-2008, 01:21 PM
These 745 batches are really kicking ass it seems. You could squeeze more for sure @ 1.55-1.65v (if you got the heart for it ;)). Too bad my E8500 is probably gonna be a Q740 :(

barzi
01-23-2008, 01:38 PM
Hope my e8400, that comes friday, is 745 :D.
Which are the better batches(beside 745)? I get two e8400, and i may choose the best one, but before i actually test them

Zeus
01-23-2008, 02:42 PM
Hope my e8400, that comes friday, is 745 :D.
Which are the better batches(beside 745)? I get two e8400, and i may choose the best one, but before i actually test them


I bet you're gonna get a 0748 like mine.

mrcape
01-23-2008, 02:51 PM
I got Q748A115

Will see what it does in a few hours...

Sniper
01-23-2008, 03:04 PM
Just an hour or so, but still going:

Q745A533 watercooling PA120.3, Fuzion, DCC.

bonzo_catalin
01-23-2008, 03:09 PM
It's summer in Norway ?:D . A little bit hot , don't you think ?

Battle_Rattle
01-23-2008, 03:16 PM
I am still learning the ins and outs of my CPU here.
it OC's insanely, but getting stable is the hard part so far.
these are very jittery little processors.
alittle voltage off, and you will be unstable. yet they boot at almost any speed you set them at.

Kunaak... do some "user stressing" and see if you can corroborate what Sioux is talking about below... Interesting observations from both of you.


...And prime would fail this chip at 4ghz 1.45v after 11 minutes. no matter what voltage was set, it was just not stable at 4ghz Prime. BUT...i can play all newer game for a hole day without a crash at 4ghz 1.38v, wich would fail prime instantly. Actely i never had a crash at 4 ghz 1.38v no matter what i did. :)

So i think we must look into this. i think i remember that this happend with some AMD chips in the past??anybody remember that? it would also fail prime, but be rock stable for 24/7 use?? :)

Also i see these new E8400 retails doing 4700mhz on air, and 5ghz on Vapo LS. now my ES would only go to 4200mhz stable, but it did the same as newer chips on VAPO (about 5ghz) :)


Sioux... I can affirm that multi instances of prime95 would bork my e6400 in a heart beat, but Prime 95_25.3 (worker threads imbedded) and occt would run all day.

I'm being an optimist here... Maybe the programs are the problem? Doesnt seem to make sense... as it stands though, usability trumps priming


Watching intently...


Danmoody.... take 20 minutes and learn Excel .... lol

Sniper
01-23-2008, 03:32 PM
It's summer in Norway ?:D . A little bit hot , don't you think ?

Ambient is about 23.

darcon
01-23-2008, 03:45 PM
Anyone with a DS3R tested one of these yet?

I'm thinking about picking up an E8400 and 2 more gigs of RAM...will having 4x1GB hinder my OC ability?

davemelb
01-23-2008, 04:36 PM
Dave could you please give some more info about your 748A cpu regarding clocks-volts required (4ghz and up)? I need to choose between 2 of them...
thanks

Hi mate,

Going by memory, the Q744A needed less voltage than Q748A. But Q748A hit higher FSB and was easier to overclock on P5B-D motherboard.

Had very limited time with them, so I cannot give you anymore useful information than that.

I hope you get a good one.

dccmadams
01-23-2008, 06:50 PM
just fired mine up tonight...almost 2 hrs priming so far...i had to bump the vcore up to 1.29 instead of 1.28 in screen shot..air cooled....50-56 load temps
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/dccmadams/4kruninfo.jpg

=[PULSAR]=
01-23-2008, 07:17 PM
what air cooling setup?

icywater
01-23-2008, 07:51 PM
here is my

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3481/orthos1pb8.jpg

Legion455
01-23-2008, 07:56 PM
Noob question, .. but, which is better a "retail" E8400/E8500 or "OEM"?

Also, ... any preference for which chip E8400 / E8500 s the better choice? I would think teh E8400 because of price.

thanks

Mav451
01-23-2008, 08:11 PM
Damn. 2 guys with 4Ghz @ 1.28Vcore.
What batch do both of you have?

X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
01-23-2008, 08:17 PM
Damn. 2 guys with 4Ghz @ 1.28Vcore.
What batch do both of you have?4GHz 1.224v with my 8400

icywater
01-23-2008, 08:18 PM
Damn. 2 guys with 4Ghz @ 1.28Vcore.
What batch do both of you have?

FPO/batch: Q745A551.

thing i will run it at that 24/7, My Stupid P5B-D doesn't like anything over 445FSB with 4 dimms slot in use.

Mav451
01-23-2008, 08:23 PM
FPO/batch: Q745A551.

thing i will run it at that 24/7, My Stupid P5B-D doesn't like anything over 445FSB with 4 dimms slot in use.

Haha, one thing to peak my curiosity - did you see the last 2 numbers on the bottom center of your chip? There's the boxy "bar code" symbol and then 2 rows of letters/numbers. What are your last two numbers on the 2nd row?

icywater
01-23-2008, 08:30 PM
Haha, one thing to peak my curiosity - did you see the last 2 numbers on the bottom center of your chip? There's the boxy "bar code" symbol and then 2 rows of letters/numbers. What are your last two numbers on the 2nd row?

sorry i did not read it, here is all i can do with 4 dimm slots :mad: .

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6164/dualpi32ko2.jpg

Mav451
01-23-2008, 08:39 PM
Heh shucks. I'm just looking for empirical data on the wafer #'s. We could (or I could) build a database :D

GOESA
01-23-2008, 10:21 PM
Mine is just bad I guess, gonna try some other stability tests, cant be right that I need 1.4375v for 4ghz too prime hmm.

/Grau

sambir
01-24-2008, 12:50 AM
Mine would not even boot in windows at 1.288 volt 450x9. I have the 27/12/07 version with vid around 1.1115 or something. Have to look at it again.

mrcape
01-24-2008, 03:29 AM
Q748A115 -

4.5ghz @1.44v - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=302165

Did some superpi 1m and 32m too but I'm too tired to get it out there. For me, anually setting the GTL with C-N's formula worked. Still need to fine tune and get orthos stable at the right spot.

Where is that Intel link that states the max vcore and temps on thee suckers?

Zeus
01-24-2008, 03:54 AM
For me, anually setting the GTL with C-N's formula worked.

What is C-N's formula? :shrug:

Viss
01-24-2008, 03:57 AM
Zeus m8 whats the max FSB your E8400 wil do on air or water? Thanks :up:

derektm
01-24-2008, 04:02 AM
Q746A502 from NewEgg. Pack date 01/11/08. Needs 1.35v for 4 ghz Prime95. I'll be testing my Q746A381 later.

Tancoll
01-24-2008, 05:06 AM
Got a Q746A381 Pack date 01/09/08. Not sure if I'm going to return it or not yet.

X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
01-24-2008, 05:16 AM
Got a Q746A381 Pack date 01/09/08. Not sure if I'm going to return it or not yet. My Q746A474 Pack date 01/07/08 does 4.2GHz at 1.3Vcore. With a Vid of 1.100

Viss
01-24-2008, 05:23 AM
Wish i could get 746 here, they seem to do rather wel indeed.

Tancoll
01-24-2008, 05:23 AM
My Q746A474 Pack date 01/07/08 does 4.2GHz at 1.3Vcore. With a Vid of 1.100

Thats okey but I'm using a single stager so i prefer a really good CPU. :)

X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
01-24-2008, 05:39 AM
Thats okey but I'm using a single stager so i prefer a really good CPU. :)Doen't your one do very well?

Zeus
01-24-2008, 05:43 AM
Zeus m8 whats the max FSB your E8400 wil do on air or water? Thanks :up:

540--no boot, 535--boot but windows won't load, 530--system reboots after 15minutes of Orthos.

I think 525 is about the max stable. :(

I'm really thinking about selling this one.

sambir
01-24-2008, 05:47 AM
I sold mine. Im happy with my quad core :)

pcfreak
01-24-2008, 05:55 AM
Hi mate,

Going by memory, the Q744A needed less voltage than Q748A. But Q748A hit higher FSB and was easier to overclock on P5B-D motherboard.

Had very limited time with them, so I cannot give you anymore useful information than that.

I hope you get a good one.

Thanks a lot for the info :up:

Chri$ch
01-24-2008, 07:10 AM
Why is this only a E8400/E8500 OC Thread?

here my first E8200 (Q745Axxx)

http://www.abload.de/img/prime-02zpf.png

Counter CS
01-24-2008, 08:20 AM
Anyone with Q750A ?:confused:

Zeus
01-24-2008, 08:28 AM
Anyone with Q750A ?:confused:

Have you got one?

CERO
01-24-2008, 08:35 AM
What Batch is better Q745A or Q746A for E8400?

Zeus
01-24-2008, 08:38 AM
What Batch is better Q745A or Q746A for E8400?

Wish i knew, i think they're about equal.

How's yours?

Tancoll
01-24-2008, 08:40 AM
I'm going to try out mine when i get time.

bonzo_catalin
01-24-2008, 08:46 AM
Don't you have 10 minutes ?:D

CERO
01-24-2008, 09:05 AM
Wish i knew, i think they're about equal.

How's yours?

Hi Zeus , didnt test it yet, still debating with myself untill tomorrow if I should test it or get another 1.

karateo
01-24-2008, 09:17 AM
Anyone with Q750A ?:confused:

Me! :p:
Able to post and boot (hangs before win logo)
at 4500 with 1.38 (maybe can do as well with less)

ghost_recon88
01-24-2008, 09:24 AM
Appears the X38 boards are handling these chips a lot better than the P35 boards are, at least the voltage necessary to hit certain clocks vs. the voltage necessary on the P35. Looks like I may need ton invest in a new board.

CERO
01-24-2008, 09:38 AM
Well I dont think so... It is the Cpu, every cpu is unique, so it differs from voltage requirement, untill some1 test a curten cpu head on head on a P35 and X38 and see, but I doubt it.

Viss
01-24-2008, 10:02 AM
Stil no E8500 here in NL so decided to try an E8400 first. Only been looking for max FSB, no spi tweaks at all. Q746A328 stock air:

Asus Commando
E8400 stock air
2x1gb Ballistix
8400GS
OCZ 520w

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/E8400FSBstockair.jpg

ztop
01-24-2008, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE=Chri$ch;2722384]Why is this only a E8400/E8500 OC Thread?

here my first E8200 (Q745Axxx)

can you tell me the complete fpo\batch and pack date? and the cooling please??
thanks

GLENBOY
01-24-2008, 10:41 AM
Stil no E8500 here in NL so decided to try an E8400 first. Only been looking for max FSB, no spi tweaks at all. Q746A328 stock air:

Asus Commando
E8400 stock air
2x1gb Ballistix
8400GS
OCZ 520w


hiya loco i have done the same i have an e8500 pre-ordered and got an e8400 which i should have tomorrow let us know the max cpu clock thats benchable on your chip please when you've time nice maxfsb , you'd like that with the 9 multiplier eh!:D

Zeus
01-24-2008, 10:43 AM
Stil no E8500 here in NL so decided to try an E8400 first. Only been looking for max FSB, no spi tweaks at all. Q746A328 stock air:

Asus Commando
E8400 stock air
2x1gb Ballistix
8400GS
OCZ 520w


Nice FSB mate, did you max it out already?

mrcape
01-24-2008, 10:56 AM
What is C-N's formula? :shrug:

Hey, it's just a way to calculate your gtl vs vtt. In a nutshell it's keeping vtt voltage low (1.2v in my case) and setting gtl to around 55 & 58% of vtt. I shouldn't have called it "his formula", but it's something he pointed out in the DFI P35 thread and I kept going back to it when trying to get the right settings.

I think it's too early to count on this thread as evidence of good and bad chips. There are too many variables - mb & bios, stress method, ram, cooling, sensor accuracy, software accuracy, defined stability. I mean, I can boot into windows over 4ghz at crazy low volts but is it stable? Even if you can do SuperPi 32m I'm not so sure.

I think we have similar batch numbers so i'd like to see what you get for results. I also have an X38 P5E that I want to test withn the week to get performance on X38 vs P35 with the same exact chip. Noone seems to have that data that I can find.

Plaicd
01-24-2008, 11:16 AM
Final 24/7 oc. P5k deluxe,Q746A381,Pack date-01/04/08

Zeus
01-24-2008, 11:20 AM
Hey, it's just a way to calculate your gtl vs vtt. In a nutshell it's keeping vtt voltage low (1.2v in my case) and setting gtl to around 55 & 58% of vtt. I shouldn't have called it "his formula", but it's something he pointed out in the DFI P35 thread and I kept going back to it when trying to get the right settings.

I think it's too early to count on this thread as evidence of good and bad chips. There are too many variables - mb & bios, stress method, ram, cooling, sensor accuracy, software accuracy, defined stability. I mean, I can boot into windows over 4ghz at crazy low volts but is it stable? Even if you can do SuperPi 32m I'm not so sure.

I think we have similar batch numbers so i'd like to see what you get for results. I also have an X38 P5E that I want to test withn the week to get performance on X38 vs P35 with the same exact chip. Noone seems to have that data that I can find.

Okay but what is it good for? Stability? I' ve kept those at auto, does changing these values do anything for running lower Vcore?

AriciU
01-24-2008, 11:23 AM
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_spi1m.JPG (http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/spi1m.JPG)

:D More here -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2722819&posted=1#post2722819

yenclas
01-24-2008, 11:42 AM
What is the best with this processor:

500*8 = 4000Mhz 1:1 mem=1000Mhz

or

450*9 = 4000Mhz 1:1 mem=900Mhz

?

Devious
01-24-2008, 11:42 AM
Got a 8500 arriving tomorrow, it will have to be a good un' to replace my quad.

Praz
01-24-2008, 11:43 AM
Hey, it's just a way to calculate your gtl vs vtt. In a nutshell it's keeping vtt voltage low (1.2v in my case) and setting gtl to around 55 & 58% of vtt.
On the DFI boards the GTL values in and of themselves have no numerical value in reference to the percentage of VTT that is being set. For instance, if a value of 60 is selected for GTL that does not imply that is the percentage of VTT being set nor does that represent a discrete voltage value. The voltage value that will correspond to 60 will change as VTT is changed. At the same time whatever percentage of VTT the value of 60 represents will also change as VTT is changed.

As no accurate measurements have been done when using these processors on DFI boards to assign any type of preferred percentage based on the value selected for GTL is a bit premature.

Tancoll
01-24-2008, 11:59 AM
Don't you have 10 minutes ?:D

10 minutes?
Takes more to change my CPU :)

mrcape
01-24-2008, 12:07 PM
On the DFI boards the GTL values in and of themselves have no numerical value in reference to the percentage of VTT that is being set. For instance, if a value of 60 is selected for GTL that does not imply that is the percentage of VTT being set nor does that represent a discrete voltage value. The voltage value that will correspond to 60 will change as VTT is changed. At the same time whatever percentage of VTT the value of 60 represents will also change as VTT is changed.

As no accurate measurements have been done when using these processors on DFI boards to assign any type of preferred percentage based on the value selected for GTL is a bit premature.

Interesting. Any insight on why setting VTT low and GTL manually at about 50 - 60% of the VTT set in bios seems to help? It works for me.

mrcape
01-24-2008, 12:12 PM
Okay but what is it good for? Stability? I' ve kept those at auto, does changing these values do anything for running lower Vcore?

It seems to have done a lot for stability in my case on the DFI board. Leaving VTT high (like on 65nm) and the GTL at auto I would rarely be able to get in at certain speeds above 4ghz, regardless of vcore. With VTT low, and GTL set manually, I could get in and run stress tests. And as I notched the gtls down from there, the stability got better.

Chri$ch
01-24-2008, 12:24 PM
can you tell me the complete fpo\batch and pack date? and the cooling please??
thanks
Batch: Q745A705 / Pack date: 01/11/08

cooling by water, is a hot CPU (my E8500 ES dont go over 35°C load @ 4Ghz) :(

mrcape
01-24-2008, 12:30 PM
Batch: Q745A705 / Pack date: 01/11/08

cooling by water, is a hot CPU (my E8500 ES dont go over 35°C load @ 4Ghz) :(

Mine seems kinda hot as well, in core temp 96.1 but moreso at idle end at around 42c. In the bios it reads really cool. I can't imagine it's this hot at idle with low volts like 1.29vcore. Then at blend load it never gets over 59c even up in the 4-4.3ghz range.

Praz
01-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Interesting. Any insight on why setting VTT low and GTL manually at about 50 - 60% of the VTT set in bios seems to help? It works for me.
I think you missed the point I was trying to make. Run GTL values at whatever works. But at this point in time nobidy knows that the values being set on the DFI boards equate to 50 - 60%. By themselves the numbers have no significant value.

mrcape
01-24-2008, 12:40 PM
I think you missed the point I was trying to make. Run GTL values at whatever works. But at this point in time nobidy knows that the values being set on the DFI boards equate to 50 - 60%. By themselves the numbers have no significant value.

Got it, and thanks for the insight. Whatever the reason I'm glad it works! Did you get your chips yet?

ztop
01-24-2008, 12:45 PM
Batch: Q745A705 / Pack date: 01/11/08

cooling by water, is a hot CPU (my E8500 ES dont go over 35°C load @ 4Ghz) :(

thanks... temp h2O?

badboy
01-24-2008, 01:02 PM
I can boot into windows at 4.1ghz at 1.304v. This motherboard isn't reading my temps correctly at all. I am using the Asus P5E3 Deluxe. I reseated it 3 times and reads odd temps on both cores. I am using a Coolit Freezone cooler and heatsink is cold. My idle temps are averaging around 34C to 39C. My batch is Q746A519 and a pack date of 01/16/08 and a VID of 1.1000.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=302461

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/286/e8400pb5.th.jpg (http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e8400pb5.jpg)

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 01:10 PM
I just got mine E8400 Q743A748, will post some results later.

Praz
01-24-2008, 01:42 PM
Got it, and thanks for the insight. Whatever the reason I'm glad it works! Did you get your chips yet?
Yeah. 746A381 :). Just got to find time to stick it in a board. Maybe tonight.

GLENBOY
01-24-2008, 01:45 PM
get it in

AriciU
01-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Mine seems kinda hot as well, in core temp 96.1 but moreso at idle end at around 42c. In the bios it reads really cool. I can't imagine it's this hot at idle with low volts like 1.29vcore. Then at blend load it never gets over 59c even up in the 4-4.3ghz range.

It's a bug. Mine always idles at 40C. Doesn't matter if it's at stock freq on stock voltage or at 4830 and 1.65v. Hopefully the coretemp guy will sort it out.

NapalmV5
01-24-2008, 01:54 PM
stable @ 1.275v

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/41581/2003093884139281944_rs.jpg

is this good?

yenclas
01-24-2008, 02:18 PM
What is the best with this processor:

500*8 = 4000Mhz 1:1 mem=1000Mhz

or

450*9 = 4000Mhz 1:1 mem=900Mhz

?

Anyone help me ?

My temps at idle are 42ºC and full orthos 56-57ºC with TR Ultra 120

karateo
01-24-2008, 02:21 PM
max fsb is better ;)

Ad1tya
01-24-2008, 02:22 PM
Any1 bought an E8400 from Newegg?

What batch did you get, and results?

Xvys
01-24-2008, 02:23 PM
It seems many E8400's have core temp sensors which report incorrect low temperature readings. These false readings are being reported in all software monitoring programs.

I had a E8400 which reported idle temps of 17C in one core and 34C in the other. Under load, the 34C core readings were frozen until it exceeded 34C.
I exchanged that processor a new one, albeit from the exact same batch, but the new cpu more correctly has core temps of 38C/36C (4.0Ghz with 1.34v).

Programs like CoreTemp read the diode right in the cpu, so software updates or bios upgrades will have no effect on these false readings.

Some E8400 purchasers are being told to just ignore these false core readings and instead rely on the "cpu temp" reading, rather than core temps.

Forsaken1
01-24-2008, 02:34 PM
stable @ 1.275v

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/41581/2003093884139281944_rs.jpg

is this good?

Mine will run games at that,but not prime.What is your idea of stable?

yenclas
01-24-2008, 02:35 PM
It seems many E8400's have core temp sensors which report incorrect low temperature readings. These false readings are being reported in all software monitoring programs.

I had a E8400 which reported idle temps of 17C in one core and 34C in the other. Under load, the 34C core readings were frozen until it exceeded 34C.
I exchanged that processor a new one, albeit from the exact same batch, but the new cpu more correctly has core temps of 38C/36C (4.0Ghz with 1.34v).

Programs like CoreTemp read the diode right in the cpu, so software updates or bios upgrades will have no effect on these false readings.

Some E8400 purchasers are being told to just ignore these false core readings and instead rely on the "cpu temp" reading, rather than core temps.

My cpu temp at idle is 15ºC and two core temps 40-42ºC

With orthos core temps are 56-57ºC

This is on 500x8 = 4000Mhz and 1,344 vcore

Mav451
01-24-2008, 02:42 PM
get it in

Haha you mean stick it in.

I'm wondering - how hard is it to move your mobo, from one case to another, if I'm using a TR.120E? I can probably install tomorrow if I keep my old case, but if I order a new case, I'd have to wait - unless i'm willing to temp it in my old case.

Xvys
01-24-2008, 02:49 PM
Those temps seem similar to mine, yenclas. At 4.0GHz (445 x 9) my core temps read 38/36C, with the cpu at 28C. Under Orthos the core temps are 52/56C with the cpu temp at 46C.

I have the Extreme heatsink which may account for 2C extra cooling compared to yours. You also have to take into account your room temperature. In Canada my ambient temp is 22C, while in Spain your ambient temp might be 25C...so you are starting 3C higher and cpu temps will always be 3C higher.

mrcape
01-24-2008, 02:51 PM
My cpu temp at idle is 15ºC and two core temps 40-42ºC

With orthos core temps are 56-57ºC

This is on 500x8 = 4000Mhz and 1,344 vcore

I've got the same symptom - Core temp 42c on both cores at idle on - 500x8 4000Mhz and 1,3vcore. This is the same system that would be reporting about 20c per core at idle with the same volts on an e6600. I re-seated, and have two fat San Ace fans running through it with ambient temps around 12c (window open in MA).

Xvys' explanation helps. I'm wondering if I can trust the load temps and ignore the idle. Didn't somebody say they raised the max temp warning on these to 70c?

yenclas
01-24-2008, 02:56 PM
Those temps seem similar to mine, yenclas. At 4.0GHz (445 x 9) my core temps read 38/36C, with the cpu at 28C. Under Orthos the core temps are 52/56C with the cpu temp at 46C.

I have the Extreme heatsink which may account for 2C extra cooling compared to yours. You also have to take into account your room temperature. In Canada my ambient temp is 22C, while in Spain your ambient temp might be 25C...so you are starting 3C higher and cpu temps will always be 3C higher.

Thanks Xvys.

Seems to be normal temps. I was thinking that temps of 8400 were minor.

Motley
01-24-2008, 02:56 PM
get it in

LMAO...

karateo
01-24-2008, 02:57 PM
Yeah. 746A381 :). Just got to find time to stick it in a board. Maybe tonight.


go go go Praz!!!
I am looking forward to your results and settings :up:

turtletrax
01-24-2008, 03:01 PM
I just got mine E8400 Q743A748, will post some results later.




Mine is the exact same FPO/Batch#, Having problems on my DFI P35-T2R getting stable (4.5Ghz). Drop me a PM with your results as it would be fantastic to know how yours is doing ;)

badboy
01-24-2008, 03:04 PM
Any1 bought an E8400 from Newegg?

What batch did you get, and results?
I got mine there and look at my results above.

GLENBOY
01-24-2008, 03:17 PM
LMAO...

you don't want to be waiting tioll tomorrow with a new cpu on the table get it stuck in and give it some stick

giorgos th.
01-24-2008, 03:18 PM
low 24/7 config with 24C room temp and rad fans at 1100rpm..
Q740A476T..

GLENBOY
01-24-2008, 03:24 PM
you always get the most out of your hardware giorgos , what the max cpu clock you've had what was 3d stable, i have an e8400 on the way and an e8500 on pre order no 8500s in the uk

giorgos th.
01-24-2008, 03:27 PM
i want to slowly stress this 8500....seems better than my previous 740A493...
i have it 4 days and max Vcore is what you see...1.32V..so far
4005mhz @ 1.232Vcore (previous 1.28V)
4100mhz @ 1.280Vcore (previous 1.33V)
4230mhz @ 1.320Vcore (previous 1.4V)
the V - clock scaling looks good to me..

luladude
01-24-2008, 03:29 PM
Hi there,

Just assemble 3 times in a row my 8400 on a P5E with TU120 extreme: same core T readings idle @ 38ºC. CPU T (in CPUID) @ 24ºC. all at 1.2v

I do think, as mentioned, that those core T are false.
My e6320 in the same system, idle core T were @ 20sss (1.4v)

GLENBOY
01-24-2008, 03:32 PM
i want to slowly stress this 8500....seems better than my previous 740A493...
i have it 4 days an max Vcore is what you see...1.32V..so far
4005mhz @ 1.232Vcore (previous 1.28V)
4100mhz @ 1.280Vcore (previous 1.33V)
4230mhz @ 1.320Vcore (previous 1.4V)
the V - clock scaling looks good to me..


looking good giorgos the e8500 is like rocking horse **it in the uk at the moment

Grnfinger
01-24-2008, 03:55 PM
Just got my 8400 today
FPO Q740A553T 12/20/07
VID 1.1125

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/wdtest.jpg

giorgos th.
01-24-2008, 03:57 PM
if you are prime/orthos stable you`re great M8..

Xvys
01-24-2008, 04:18 PM
I do think, as mentioned, that those core T are false.
My e6320 in the same system, idle core T were @ 20sss (1.4v)

As someone posted in another thread, Intel designed these core sensors to read extremley high core temps to throttle down the cpu when overheated. They apparantly were not designed to be used as thermometers or necessarily be accurate at lower temperatures. While some enterprising software designers have brought out programs to read these core sensors, Intel is probably not obligated to ensure their accuracy at low temps. Intel's own Thermal Analysis Tool does not work with the Wolfdale cpus.

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 04:30 PM
Q743A748 @ 4Ghz with 1.288v 30mins OCCT Stable.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/bail_w/4Ghz.jpg

sofarfrome
01-24-2008, 05:52 PM
mobo: DFI Blood Iron
memory: Crucial Ballistix DDR2-667 2x1GB
gpu: eVga 8800GT 512MB
cooling: water
psu: Corsair HX620
hd: WD250

vid: 0.8750

This is somewhat of an adventure. I had the latest BIOS from DFI but it would not allow me to disable EIST and the other CPU protection options. I would set vcore, multi, and FSB in bios but only the FSB would hold. When I launched CPUz it would tell me 6x multi and 456FSB. So I flashed to a beta bios found on T-Mod's DFI CD (give that guy a cigar). Now I can run the E8400 without any issues other than the temp discrepency.

My WC system needs a kick in the ass and my memory timings need some work but I will address those next.

Anyhow, here are 2 quick SS. This SMOKES the E6750 it replaced.

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 06:07 PM
More result:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/bail_w/41GHz2.jpg

Forsaken1
01-24-2008, 06:23 PM
sofarfrome nice vid.Whats the batch?

Mav451
01-24-2008, 06:24 PM
mobo: DFI Blood Iron
memory: Crucial Ballistix DDR2-667 2x1GB
gpu: eVga 8800GT 512MB
cooling: water
psu: Corsair HX620
hd: WD250

vid: 0.8750



Is this the lowest we've seen so far?

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 06:34 PM
Is this the lowest we've seen so far?

0.85V – 1.3625V, so 0.85v is the lowest.

sofarfrome
01-24-2008, 06:53 PM
sofarfrome nice vid.Whats the batch?

Batch: Q743A748

pack date: 01/04/08

One last SS for the night: 3DMark03 at 4.4GHz, 1.360vcore

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 07:08 PM
Batch: Q743A748

pack date: 01/04/08

One last SS for the night: 3DMark03 at 4.4GHz, 1.360vcore


huh lol same batch but my vid is higher? what is your last four wafer numbers? i bought it from NCIXUS too :)

Mithan
01-24-2008, 07:58 PM
I figured I would ask you fine people if anybody knows what the average Intel specifications for the E8400 Thermals are under idle and load and the core temp (if its different)?


I've been looking around but all I can find is people talking about their temps, not the actual recommended guidelines.

T_M
01-24-2008, 08:01 PM
E8400 Q746A476 xxxxxx15

Water
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/T_M/95987532M.jpg

zizo
01-24-2008, 08:28 PM
Q743A748
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/zizokhan/4.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/zizokhan/6.jpg
My board shows cpu temps ~15C higher.

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 08:40 PM
Q743A748
My board shows cpu temps ~15C higher.

you got the exact same vid and batch as i do, may i know your waffer #?

MuffinFlavored
01-24-2008, 08:47 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/zizokhan/4.jpg


CPU-Z shows a different clock speed, than Orthos and CoreTemp.

dinos22
01-24-2008, 08:49 PM
Batch: Q743A748

pack date: 01/04/08

One last SS for the night: 3DMark03 at 4.4GHz, 1.360vcore

very nice CPU indeed

what about max fsb

zizo
01-24-2008, 08:49 PM
you got the exact same vid and batch as i do, may i know your waffer #?

MM# 895733

Super strokey
01-24-2008, 08:55 PM
Hmm board to choose for this cpu seems hard, blook iron looks decent on it, only one p5k ive seen though.

Xvys
01-24-2008, 08:56 PM
I was wondering why my latencies are so crummy compared to some others here? My system is stable at 4275 MHz, so far.

zizo
01-24-2008, 09:01 PM
CPU-Z shows a different clock speed, than Orthos and CoreTemp.

Loaded at 401 and clockgen to 467.
Here is a load at 467 and speedstep enabled.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/zizokhan/5.jpg

ThatGuy16
01-24-2008, 09:40 PM
What do you think is the best, cheapest P35 board for these?

I want to order a E8400 off the egg tomarrow, but i don't want to spend the $200 on a X38 that i had planned.. :(

Would rather have a stacker + P35 :up:

Super strokey
01-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Im wonder which mobo is best, im thinking the blood iron is awesome

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 10:06 PM
What do you think is the best, cheapest P35 board for these?

I want to order a E8400 off the egg tomarrow, but i don't want to spend the $200 on a X38 that i had planned.. :(

Would rather have a stacker + P35 :up:

Go for the P35 + stacker because X38 is not much improvement from P35.

ThatGuy16
01-24-2008, 10:14 PM
know of a good one $130 or less, 45nm ready out of the box and ready for some overclocking? :toast:

turtletrax
01-24-2008, 10:16 PM
Go for the P35 + stacker because X38 is not much improvement from P35.

Especially for DDR2. Trust me, I learned this the hard way :(

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 10:23 PM
know of a good one $130 or less, 45nm ready out of the box and ready for some overclocking? :toast:

Asus P5k - 126.99 http://www.xpcgear.com/asusp5k.html

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L -94.99 http://www.xpcgear.com/gap35ds3l.html

Abit IP35- 141.99 http://www.xpcgear.com/ip35.html

Battle_Rattle
01-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Is this the lowest we've seen so far?

Why does it matter? VID number

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 10:32 PM
Why does it matter? VID number

Some people think the lower vid number will overclock better, but actually it does not guarantee anything in overclocking.

ThatGuy16
01-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Thanks bail, has or does anyone know for sure if the DS3L or DS3R are 45nm ready out of the box? thats the only thing im worried about because i won't have another 775 cpu to flash bios if it happend to need it :(

These should OC well with 4 sticks of ram and good FSB?

I hate to ask all the questions, but i might be ordering in the morning :up:

Bail_w
01-24-2008, 10:40 PM
Thanks bail, has or does anyone know for sure if the DS3L or DS3R are 45nm ready out of the box? thats the only thing im worried about because i won't have another 775 cpu to flash bios if it happend to need it :(

These should OC well with 4 sticks of ram and good FSB?

I hate to ask all the questions, but i might be ordering in the morning :up:

Look at the description, it said 45nm ready, but sometimes you do need to flash the bios.

I am not sure if they will overclock well with 4 sticks of ram but with 2 sticks there are plenty of great results.


Edit: E8400 @ 4.32ghz with 1.4v
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/bail_w/432ghz.jpg

Shampoo
01-25-2008, 12:18 AM
Oh man all these great results and I'm stuck with my Q740A523 taht I can't for the life of me get stable on my P5N-E SLI board.

I know there isn't an official bios yet, but there are some guys on here that have gotten it stable, so I'm willing to give it another go.

One note. I noticed when my system crashes from not being stable with the E8400 instead of your typical black screen of nothing, or just frozen screen, or bluescreen of death, mine is black with yellow text.

The yellow text being to blurred out to read. So it's like a BSOD, but black with yellow text that can't be read.

Anyone else?

I will give this another try tomorrow or something.

Wish a bios would come out for my P5N-E SLI

Garrett
01-25-2008, 01:35 AM
1.45v is about the max voltage for 24/7 use right?
I have a 746A328 here, going to try it this weekend :up:
Let's see what my P5K and this chip can do...

sofarfrome
01-25-2008, 01:56 AM
huh lol same batch but my vid is higher? what is your last four wafer numbers? i bought it from NCIXUS too :)

Dunno know but I will check when I swap my WC block this weekend and let you know.

The[R]eaper
01-25-2008, 02:06 AM
thinking of ordering an e8400 and DFI LP LT P35-T2R. good combo? with some tracers? lovin' the results thx:D

turtletrax
01-25-2008, 02:13 AM
eaper;2724429']thinking of ordering an e8400 and DFI LP LT P35-T2R. good combo? with some tracers? lovin' the results thx:D

It is a sick board, but like so many DFI products it is allot of work at the begining. I Personally love the board as much, if not more than my Ultra-D, but am having issues with GTL Ref adjustment past 4.3Ghz. I am sure I will get it ironed out.

I would reccomned the T2R to anybody that likes a good challange, if not I would try another board.

The[R]eaper
01-25-2008, 02:44 AM
cool:up: . ive read quite a bit on the dfi p35 thread and it seems like a very solid board. im hoping for a 3.6 to 4.0ghz 24/7 with this chip. im kinda new to overclocking but would like to get more into it. thx again.

elgoog
01-25-2008, 02:46 AM
anything conclusive on what sort of voltage these chips can handle for 24/7 (similar to ~1.6v being about the maximum acceptable voltage for 65nm chips)

cadaveca
01-25-2008, 02:52 AM
I'm saying 1.40v AIR -1.5v WATER.


Anyone popped an IHS on these yet?

turtletrax
01-25-2008, 02:53 AM
eaper;2724472']cool:up: . ive read quite a bit on the dfi p35 thread and it seems like a very solid board. im hoping for a 3.6 to 4.0ghz 24/7 with this chip. im kinda new to overclocking but would like to get more into it. thx again.

You will also be quite pleased with performance per clock compared to your 680i. I had my Quad @ 4Ghz on my 680i and I went to the DFI and beat my 3DMark06 Score by 700 points at 3.85Ghz :rolleyes:

Origin_Unknown
01-25-2008, 03:09 AM
i've just ordered my e8500 for delivery tomorrow so ill see what it can do on my X38 then :D

Garrett
01-25-2008, 03:12 AM
1.45v is about the max voltage for 24/7 use right?
I have a 746A328 here, going to try it this weekend :up:
Let's see what my P5K and this chip can do...
So far 4.0ghz orthos/occt stable @ 1.33v on a P5K... have no idea what all the BIOS voltage options do but I'm learning lol... 4.1ghz will boot but won't pass orthos for longer than 40 seconds :D
Next week the DFI DK P35 should be here... very curious if it makes a difference... at least the layout is better than this P5K...

edit VID is 1.1125v...

The[R]eaper
01-25-2008, 03:17 AM
You will also be quite pleased with performance per clock compared to your 680i. I had my Quad @ 4Ghz on my 680i and I went to the DFI and beat my 3DMark06 Score by 700 points at 3.85Ghz :rolleyes:

Nice:up: ive had bad luck with my 680i's (3 rma'd) thx again will prolly be ordering in the next week or so.:D

AriciU
01-25-2008, 04:57 AM
I think 1.43-1.45 is about the max for these chips under the currently available air cooling. I'm keeping it at 1.48v @ 4.3ghz at the moment and one core goes to around 64C in Orthos while the other jumps between 58-61C. I've heard that the max recommended temps. for these was around 65C.

I throwed some Orthos at it @ 1.55v @ ~4500Mhz. Cores jumped straight to 75C and they we're surely gonna get hotter then that, maybe 80C :D

Chri$ch
01-25-2008, 06:36 AM
now the final result..

E8200 @ 4Ghz with 1.216v :up:

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8200-Q745/4Ghz-Prime_kl.png (http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8200-Q745/4Ghz-Prime.png)

Pacha
01-25-2008, 06:49 AM
nice with so few Volts for an E8200 :)

Ten
01-25-2008, 06:56 AM
I just started to play with this Q748A142 E8400, i think my temp are high, i did try remount but still i idle @ 42c same temp when i tryed to oc some coretemp is wrong i think maybe because om 780 chipset or something... well first try
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8990/40891296v3horthosaj3.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40891296v3horthosaj3.jpg)

i think my temps i high but cant get good temp:/ im running WC.

Mav451
01-25-2008, 07:03 AM
So far 4.0ghz orthos/occt stable @ 1.33v on a P5K... have no idea what all the BIOS voltage options do but I'm learning lol... 4.1ghz will boot but won't pass orthos for longer than 40 seconds :D
Next week the DFI DK P35 should be here... very curious if it makes a difference... at least the layout is better than this P5K...

edit VID is 1.1125v...

So you actually have two premium boards to play with? Damn. I'm wondering if should sell my unused IP35-E for the DFI board. I just haven't seen too many IP35-E results, especially with low vcore. But maybe that's cpu-based, not mobo-based.


I would reccomned the T2R to anybody that likes a good challange, if not I would try another board.

I loved tweaking with the Ultra-D, even though my Opteron was kind of a dud lol. I wonder how much I have to gain if I had went for the DFI instead. Hrmm...

X.T.R.E.M.E_ICE
01-25-2008, 07:06 AM
now the final result..

E8200 @ 4Ghz with 1.216v :up:

http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8200-Q745/4Ghz-Prime_kl.png (http://www.muenster.de/~e30pics/Bilder/Computer/CPU/E8200-Q745/4Ghz-Prime.png)

Very nice. Same as my 8400 Vcore under load at that speed. Rare chip.:up: