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Z3R0-CooL
01-10-2008, 01:20 PM
This is a thread for ppl to post their BIOS settings for 24-7 on the Maximus Extreme with QX9650.


BIOS Version:
Mem Speed Rated:
Mem Manufacturer and Model:
Mem Size (2x1GB, 2x2GB 4x1GB):

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
---- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency :
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency:
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
DRAM Static Read Control:
Ai Clock Twister :
Transaction Booster :

CPU Voltage :
CPU PLL Voltage :
North Bridge Voltage :
DRAM Voltage :
FSB Termination Voltage :
South Bridge Voltage :
Loadline Calibration :
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference :
DDR3 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR3 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR3 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :
:D

sdumper
01-10-2008, 02:25 PM
FSB: 425
CPU Multiplier: 11.5
4GB (with 2gb I ran FSB 445x11 and 7-7-7-14)
Mem Speed: 1700 (8,7,7,14)
Mem Manufacturer and Model: Crucial PC12800
Mem Size (2GB, 4GB etc): 4GB

Vcore: 1.65 (1.62 real)
PLL: 1.72
VDimm: 1.95
NB volts: 1.7
SB Volts: 1.1175
SB 1.5V: Auto

Memory Timings (i.e. 7-7-7-20):
Transaction Booster: Disabled .....
Twister: Strong

lior307
01-10-2008, 02:48 PM
FSB: 425
CPU Multiplier: 11.5
4GB (with 2gb I ran FSB 445x11 and 7-7-7-14)
Mem Speed: 1700 (8,7,7,14)
Mem Manufacturer and Model: Crucial PC12800
Mem Size (2GB, 4GB etc): 4GB

Vcore: 1.65 (1.62 real)
PLL: 1.72
VDimm: 1.95
NB volts: 1.7
SB Volts: 1.1175
SB 1.5V: Auto

Memory Timings (i.e. 7-7-7-20):
Transaction Booster: Disabled .....
Twister: Strong


WHICH COOLING DID YOU USED ???

The Terminal
01-10-2008, 02:48 PM
FSB: 425
CPU Multiplier: 11.5
4GB (with 2gb I ran FSB 445x11 and 7-7-7-14)
Mem Speed: 1700 (8,7,7,14)
Mem Manufacturer and Model: Crucial PC12800
Mem Size (2GB, 4GB etc): 4GB

Vcore: 1.65 (1.62 real)
PLL: 1.72
VDimm: 1.95
NB volts: 1.7
SB Volts: 1.1175
SB 1.5V: Auto

Memory Timings (i.e. 7-7-7-20):
Transaction Booster: Disabled .....
Twister: Strong

Thats Awesome! What cooling are you useing? The qx9650 pushing 1.65v must be a real pain to keep cool?

Z3R0-CooL
01-10-2008, 02:59 PM
i think sdumper is using Vapor.. Single Stage

camouflage
01-10-2008, 04:16 PM
FSB: 425
CPU Multiplier: 11.5
4GB (with 2gb I ran FSB 445x11 and 7-7-7-14)
Mem Speed: 1700 (8,7,7,14)
Mem Manufacturer and Model: Crucial PC12800
Mem Size (2GB, 4GB etc): 4GB

Vcore: 1.65 (1.62 real)
PLL: 1.72
VDimm: 1.95
NB volts: 1.7
SB Volts: 1.1175
SB 1.5V: Auto

Memory Timings (i.e. 7-7-7-20):
Transaction Booster: Disabled .....
Twister: Strong

:D Hm, nice 24/7 settings - even subzero 1.62 Vcore is risky using it all the time....;)

Yoxxy
01-10-2008, 06:52 PM
incredibly risky to run that much vcore and pll on 45nm. That chip is going to degrade rapidly.

465x9
Vcore: 1.42v
Memory: Corsair DDR3-1800C7INT v3.1 @ 7-6-6-15-6-48-20-15-5-7-5-6-1T PL6 (1860 mhz)
Vdimm: 2.12v

PLL is at 1.50
VNB is at 1.63 which is 1.59v real via dmm.

Don't know why sdumper is using such high voltage on nb and pll for a moderate fsb increase...

sdumper
01-10-2008, 07:12 PM
I run using a customized Mach II my evap is -47c on idle and for moderate load its -44c.

Yoxxy, I disagree :)

Please read my paper on current migration under extreme cooling...it can be found on BlazingPC in case your interested.


That said I will likely give it a little more voltage soon once I test this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163786

railmeat
01-10-2008, 07:46 PM
I run using a customized Mach II my evap is -47c on idle and for moderate load its -44c.

Yoxxy, I disagree :)

Please read my paper on current migration under extreme cooling...it can be found on BlazingPC in case your interested.


That said I will likely give it a little more voltage soon once I test this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163786


"Please read my paper on current migration under extreme cooling...it can be found on BlazingPC in case your interested."

very interesting,as i too would like to know whats the life expectancy of a "stock" say 1.375volts to chip at "stock" speeds projected to be.guess what,u answered your own equation.i mean once u find out that life expectancy,then add more voltage and get your formaula.for example say 1.375 at stock speed yields 5 years.so....say now run 1.45 and do the math after you get your formula going off the stock voltage\speed eqaution and there u go.easier said then done but u actually answerd your own question by starting with stock formula first to get your inital play numbers on higher voltages.KEEP IN MIND,this formula is using stock cooler!.after u get that striaght then u have the joy of intergrating the extreme temps into the equation of voltages\ghz increments = lifetime.man u got some work ahead of you.but i would figure out the stock voltage\stock speed\stock cooling =lifetime math first.

Yoxxy
01-11-2008, 06:03 AM
Your formula is a bit incorrect sdumper. as there are a few things you arn't looking at.

1.) Your coretemp != your evaporater temp. Your coretemp loaded may be best case scenario -12 loaded.
2.) The high-k chips are far to new to understand understand what role a new material plays into the equation.
3.) Intel whitesheet is at 1.45v for 45nm it was at 1.55v for 65nm. They have already worked out the formula.
4.) When you run through and change t to a negative number and t0 you are indeed going to end up with a higher number but the results are going to be miniscule as the formula does not run until infinity. Meaning at Absolute zero I could still not run 400000000v through my C2D.

Do whatever you want, but if you are showing a formula that has not really been proven on all materials and has flaws that is not the best basis.

There is a reason Coolaler broke 3 45nm parts at 1.9v even at -160c (-115 core temp loaded).

You are over 100 degrees hotter core temp and still running 1.63v.

I will wager you in front of everyone here that if you run that computer 24/7 and it is still alive in 6 months, I will send you $25 off paypal (aka buy you a dinner).

Z3R0-CooL
01-11-2008, 07:00 AM
please keep this stuff out of this thread. dont hijack it please.

Yoxxy post your BIOS settings properly please. use the template given in OP.

Z3R0-CooL
01-11-2008, 07:06 AM
Please ALL use the Template when posting settings :)

BlueAqua
01-11-2008, 08:05 AM
Sdumper has all kinds of toys and if it dies I don't think he'll be too upset to buy a new one, and that's the luxury that he has. I applaud him for doing so, he's had quite a few cpu's/boards on phase 24/7.

The Terminal
01-11-2008, 09:25 AM
Im closely watching this thread as although I have a different board (Maximus Formula), I'm interested to see if there are many people running the qx9650 at 4.2ghz or higher and the voltages that they prepaied to use to achieve it. I stopped at 1.49v and achieved 4.15ghz with mine.

Aivas47a
01-11-2008, 09:49 AM
BIOS Version: 0904
Mem Speed Rated: 1800, 8-7-7-20
Mem Manufacturer and Model: Cellshock
Mem Size (2x1GB, 2x2GB 4x1GB): 2x1GB

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
---- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 [FTW! :D ]
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3- 1680
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 7
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 6
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 16
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled/2 [Performance Level 6]

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.90
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63 x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67 x
DDR3 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Controller REF Voltage : DDR3 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

OCCT/Everest screenshot: http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k255/aivas47a/QX965010x420.jpg

julissagz
01-11-2008, 12:06 PM
BIOS Version: 0907
Mem Speed Rated: 820, 5-5-5-15
Mem Manufacturer and Model: G.Skill
Mem Size (4x2GB): 8GB

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
---- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 [FTW! ]
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled/2

CPU Voltage : 1.43
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63 x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67 x
DDR3 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

Z3R0-CooL
01-11-2008, 04:32 PM
BIOS Version: 0907
Mem Speed Rated: 820, 5-5-5-15
Mem Manufacturer and Model: G.Skill
Mem Size (4x2GB): 8GB

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
---- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 [FTW! ]
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled/2

CPU Voltage : 1.43
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63 x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67 x
DDR3 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto


Dude... thats not Maximus Extreme.. lol... this is for Maximus extreme users. u probably got Maximus Formula?

camouflage
01-12-2008, 11:16 AM
:D Here's my 24/7 low voltage energy saver setting:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9792/everestsensorstw5.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3701/4ghzprimeeb6.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9561/4ghz32muz2.jpg

:up:

Infa
01-12-2008, 01:11 PM
how do u keep tha NB that cool? even with WC my didnt get that low, and i do not have so high ambient.. i removed it though couse it did jack shaaajt for me, just lowered the temps 6-10c for nothing.... :)

OBR
01-12-2008, 01:29 PM
BIOS Version: 904
Mem Speed Rated: 1800MHz
Mem Manufacturer and Model: TeamGroup 1800 ES
Mem Size (2x1GB, 2x2GB 4x1GB): 2x 1GB

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
---- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1600 :down:
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 16-5-5-5
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 16
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.5V (now with QX6700) Q9650 is in Asus P5N-T now ...
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR3 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR3 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

I cannot to reach stable 450+ and higher ... if i set higher voltages- BSOD, i need more to testing ...
Everything i have watercooled (blocks on NB, SB, CPU) Swiftech blocks ...

camouflage
01-12-2008, 02:56 PM
how do u keep tha NB that cool? even with WC my didnt get that low, and i do not have so high ambient.. i removed it though couse it did jack shaaajt for me, just lowered the temps 6-10c for nothing.... :)

:D 11/8 tubing - 1/2" - room temp was 20°C:

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/9264/systempics004zu4.jpg

Board is in stock condition - never removed the heatsink group....;)

Infa
01-12-2008, 03:08 PM
Yeah, and im also using the fuzion block, and 7/16" tubing...

you must be using real low Vmch ? with 1.45 or so i never got it lower than maybe 34c ....well well, i tried it and it didnt give me anything, i think cooling the NB only will gain something with more hardcore OC...not the 4-4.5Ghz day OC :)

well well i will see in the future, maybe higher FSB will need that higher Vmch, and if ill get problem i will cool it then again... i got my Wolfdale on order, so it will come about 20th....will see will see... :)

Like your OC though, your quite lucky with components :P getting the right ones hehe.. Btw are u using both the additional fans on the PWM sink and the other.

regards.

camouflage
01-14-2008, 04:16 PM
Yeah, and im also using the fuzion block, and 7/16" tubing...

you must be using real low Vmch ? with 1.45 or so i never got it lower than maybe 34c ....well well, i tried it and it didnt give me anything, i think cooling the NB only will gain something with more hardcore OC...not the 4-4.5Ghz day OC :)

well well i will see in the future, maybe higher FSB will need that higher Vmch, and if ill get problem i will cool it then again... i got my Wolfdale on order, so it will come about 20th....will see will see... :)

Like your OC though, your quite lucky with components :P getting the right ones hehe.. Btw are u using both the additional fans on the PWM sink and the other.

regards.

:rolleyes: Hm, I use 1.440 Vmch at 400 Mhz FSB up to ~436, then 1.456.

450Mhz benches are done with 1.62 and 460 with 1.64. BIOS setting is ~0.01 lower - my board overvolts a bit.

I use 10 fans total in my system - 2 case fans blowing into the case (one is in front of the HDDs) and 2 blowing outside the case, the 2 120mm in front of the MOSFET / RAM section, the stock fan on top of the PWM sink, 2 120mm on top of my radiator and of course the PSU fan (120mm). Little Tornado on the way.....:p:

Maybe You picked up a board with bad heatsink contact - ASUS is using some strange thermal compound stuff like cement and if there is a bad contact You'll have bad temps......., it's different from board to board. Saw ppl replacing the stuff with AS5 and getting 8-10°C lower temps even without water on the NB !!!

For me it works fine, I think I'd also get lower temps if I use AS5, but on water my temps are fine with the stock compound and I want to avoid the work of replacing.

But if I was in Your situation I'd give it a try - some work necessary but in the end the only way for lower temps on water.;)

sdumper
01-15-2008, 07:54 AM
incredibly risky to run that much vcore and pll on 45nm. That chip is going to degrade rapidly.

465x9
Vcore: 1.42v
Memory: Corsair DDR3-1800C7INT v3.1 @ 7-6-6-15-6-48-20-15-5-7-5-6-1T PL6 (1860 mhz)
Vdimm: 2.12v

PLL is at 1.50
VNB is at 1.63 which is 1.59v real via dmm.

Don't know why sdumper is using such high voltage on nb and pll for a moderate fsb increase...

Thanks Yoxxy I read your post and will spend some time walking through equations and links.

You pointed out some points of failure that I had not considered...