F.E.A.R.
01-04-2008, 03:03 PM
I wanted to take a report on the Hama SSDs deliver, I did get on 03.01.2008.
The polished aluminum housing is really very nicely processed. These drives are MTRON OEM-SSDs only for Hama (it´s a reseller), depending on the size of up to 300 € more than the Hama's cost.
http://www.mbu.de/news/SolidDisk.html
http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict035538tt.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict035538tt.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict035947i.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict035947i.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict0361doj.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict0361doj.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict0363lk1.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict0363lk1.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict03668zt.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict03668zt.jpg)
System is a ASUS P5N32-E SLI + E6600...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_182djg.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_183i5r.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_188c2m.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_189pub.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_198up2.jpg
And here are Benches with the S-ATA-Raid-Controller Areca ARC-1210 (256MB ECC-Ram-Cache).
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_233hx7.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_235ab1.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_234xtj.jpg
RAID 0-Array...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_229n5a.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2329yt.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_223iyk.jpg
The write performance with FC test with onboard controller.
Left: Samsung HD501LJ - Right: Hama SSD...The weakness in writing SSD can be seen clearly here ...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_1952m1k.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_193251p.jpg
The same again, but now with the controller and still ATTO-Bench...
One SSD without Cache...
The majority of controller performance can be seen immediately ...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_214dp6.jpghttp://www.abload.de/img/hc_213onj.jpg
One SSD with cache. The benefits are really enormous ... :D
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_215wq0.jpghttp://www.abload.de/img/hc_2122oy.jpg
RAID 0 + Cache...
Nearly a halving extractiontime... *ggg*
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2052cvd.jpg
Without Cache...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_222vxm.jpg
With Cache...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_220m2v.jpg
RAID 0 with 3 SSDs...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_256wzi.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_257n2a.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_259zoa.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2601n9.jpg
RAID 0 with 4 SSDs... *ggg*
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_247er8.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_24955n.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2542cl.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_255066.jpg
RAID 5 with 3 SSDs...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_261909.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_262ymo.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2633a6.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_264zx4.jpg
RAID 5 with 4 SDDs...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_250s8x.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2528cv.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_251z6n.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_253ad5.jpg
Even a few benches with IOmeter...
Mit Workstation-Pattern (http://www.file-upload.net/download-733570/iometer2.icf.html)... *<-klick*
2x SSD @ RAID 0 with Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_184a50.jpg
2x SSD @ RAID 0 without Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_199vme.jpg
150GB Raptor
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_18648e.jpg
Samsung HD501LJ
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_185l3h.jpg
Mit Fileserver-Pattern... (http://www.file-upload.net/download-733908/iometer3.icf.html) *<-klick*
2x SSDs @ RAID 0 mit Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_194ro6.jpg
2x SSD @ RAID 0 ohne Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_200yam.jpg
150GB Raptor
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_1934ac.jpg
Samsung HD501LJ
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_192dlx.jpg
Mit Database-Pattern... (http://www.file-upload.net/download-734016/database.icf.html) *<-klick*
2x SSDs @ RAID 0 with Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_197i32.jpg
2x SSDs @ RAID 0 without Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_198vtc.jpg
150GB Raptor
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_196xwf.jpg
Samsung HD501LJ
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_1955sz.jpg
From here all the tests with only one SSD...
The Windows XP Start time:
The difference is really noticeable - of course, at work. One the other hand, is a Raptor Nothing!
This I simply beautiful packed XP on the Samsung Hama cloned, as a fresh OS little anfordernd.
Samsung = 69sek.
SSD = 46sek.
Difference of 50%
Copy / move of large files:
I have a beautiful large selbstgenerierte file of exactly 5GB taken and copying at the click abgestoppt exactly.
Copy within a SDD 36MB/sek approx.
Copying the other SSD SSD 81MB/sek approx.
2.25 times faster ...
HL2 - Lost Coast:
This time I have the time from the double click until the appearance of the menus stopped. More specifically, until the ink on the background image appears. It was always only ONCE HL2 started and abgestoppt since the 2nd Load times already a lot of data in RAM or Videoram. There were each stopped 5 times (also 5-boot), a precise value funds.
Samsung HD501LJ = 27.6 sec.
Hama SSD = 19.5 sec.
Difference nearly 42%
The repeated time after loading end of HL2 showed little difference (basic stands above). Since it is just 0.1 sec. (If any). It is important but the first after loading Windows Start.
Crysis:
This I Crysis on c: \ XP installed (such as HL2). I assumed that the loading time also depends on the settings - so that high resolution + AA / AF / details more data in RAM or Videoram land than with moderate attitude. Therefore, I have the highest setting (1920x1200 + + 16xAA high). I then a batch file for the GPU bench, as the intros, and the menu is being circumvented.
Stopped Auführen was from the batch file to the disappearance of the loading screen. Re with 5 passes (each after a restart).
The drives were (like HL2 also) first with Perfect Disk defragt the game installed and the same again defragt. So all very clean.
Samsung HD501LJ = 44.2 sec.
Hama SSD = 30.2 sec.
Difference approximately 46%
WinRar 3.70:
Here I simply the folder "dllcache" c: \ windows \ system32 \. It is about 450MB in size and includes 2460 files of a few hundred bytes of up to 13MB. Only small files would be naturally better for testing, but here is the Hama very strongly on the Samsung. The result would be even more dramatic with only small files.
Thus, the CPU is not the whole limited WinRar I have the option to "save".
Samsung = 28.5 sec.
Hama = 18.3 sec.
Approximately 56% difference! *OMG*
Windows boot time - vs. Hama. Seagate ST3160021A:
I have the OS on my work PC (Venice A64 3200 +, MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum) on the SSD cloned. In the PC handycrafts been 3 1 / 2 years with a 24/7-Betrieb Seagate ST3160021A (160GB - 2MB cache). Since the OS is already very crowded and some in the Quick Launch toolbar lands needs the chest about 3:25 minutes until HDD activity no longer be seen. What should I say? The result almost made me away ...
ST3160021A (160GB - 2MB cache) = 3:28 min
Hama = 1:28 minutes! *Aaargh*
Bright 2.36 times faster! *OMG*
Raid array:
So it looks like I can not Raid 0 on the ASUS create when you press F7 should immediately so a pop. It does not (freeze)
That would be very unfortunate if that is not suffering. Had me on Raid 0 pleased ...
The problem with raid on the ASUS is likely to be found. Either Drives are too small (some controllers to accept no small Drives) or the IDs of the drives are not allowed. So even with the 9650 series of 3ware. These controllers support SSD's NOT! Only the 9590 Series supports this, but merely coincidental or unintentionally (as you told me).
The controller of Areca but run well with SSDs.
http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=400991
http://mtron.net/Upload_Data/Spec/ASiC/MSP-SATA7035.pdf
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_State_Drive
http://www.ssdisk.eu/benchmark_pc_extreme_raid.php
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=7989640&postcount=336
http://www.hmk.de/datasheets/PM_HMK_SSD_0307.pdf
http://www.cis.nctu.edu.tw/~lpchang/papers/sac2007_ppt.pdf
The polished aluminum housing is really very nicely processed. These drives are MTRON OEM-SSDs only for Hama (it´s a reseller), depending on the size of up to 300 € more than the Hama's cost.
http://www.mbu.de/news/SolidDisk.html
http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict035538tt.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict035538tt.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict035947i.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict035947i.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict0361doj.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict0361doj.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict0363lk1.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict0363lk1.jpg) http://www.abload.de/thumb/pict03668zt.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=pict03668zt.jpg)
System is a ASUS P5N32-E SLI + E6600...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_182djg.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_183i5r.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_188c2m.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_189pub.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_198up2.jpg
And here are Benches with the S-ATA-Raid-Controller Areca ARC-1210 (256MB ECC-Ram-Cache).
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_233hx7.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_235ab1.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_234xtj.jpg
RAID 0-Array...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_229n5a.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2329yt.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_223iyk.jpg
The write performance with FC test with onboard controller.
Left: Samsung HD501LJ - Right: Hama SSD...The weakness in writing SSD can be seen clearly here ...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_1952m1k.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_193251p.jpg
The same again, but now with the controller and still ATTO-Bench...
One SSD without Cache...
The majority of controller performance can be seen immediately ...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_214dp6.jpghttp://www.abload.de/img/hc_213onj.jpg
One SSD with cache. The benefits are really enormous ... :D
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_215wq0.jpghttp://www.abload.de/img/hc_2122oy.jpg
RAID 0 + Cache...
Nearly a halving extractiontime... *ggg*
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2052cvd.jpg
Without Cache...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_222vxm.jpg
With Cache...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_220m2v.jpg
RAID 0 with 3 SSDs...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_256wzi.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_257n2a.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_259zoa.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2601n9.jpg
RAID 0 with 4 SSDs... *ggg*
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_247er8.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_24955n.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2542cl.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_255066.jpg
RAID 5 with 3 SSDs...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_261909.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_262ymo.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2633a6.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_264zx4.jpg
RAID 5 with 4 SDDs...
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_250s8x.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_2528cv.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_251z6n.jpg http://www.abload.de/img/hc_253ad5.jpg
Even a few benches with IOmeter...
Mit Workstation-Pattern (http://www.file-upload.net/download-733570/iometer2.icf.html)... *<-klick*
2x SSD @ RAID 0 with Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_184a50.jpg
2x SSD @ RAID 0 without Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_199vme.jpg
150GB Raptor
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_18648e.jpg
Samsung HD501LJ
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_185l3h.jpg
Mit Fileserver-Pattern... (http://www.file-upload.net/download-733908/iometer3.icf.html) *<-klick*
2x SSDs @ RAID 0 mit Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_194ro6.jpg
2x SSD @ RAID 0 ohne Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_200yam.jpg
150GB Raptor
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_1934ac.jpg
Samsung HD501LJ
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_192dlx.jpg
Mit Database-Pattern... (http://www.file-upload.net/download-734016/database.icf.html) *<-klick*
2x SSDs @ RAID 0 with Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_197i32.jpg
2x SSDs @ RAID 0 without Write-Cache
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_198vtc.jpg
150GB Raptor
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_196xwf.jpg
Samsung HD501LJ
http://www.abload.de/img/hc_1955sz.jpg
From here all the tests with only one SSD...
The Windows XP Start time:
The difference is really noticeable - of course, at work. One the other hand, is a Raptor Nothing!
This I simply beautiful packed XP on the Samsung Hama cloned, as a fresh OS little anfordernd.
Samsung = 69sek.
SSD = 46sek.
Difference of 50%
Copy / move of large files:
I have a beautiful large selbstgenerierte file of exactly 5GB taken and copying at the click abgestoppt exactly.
Copy within a SDD 36MB/sek approx.
Copying the other SSD SSD 81MB/sek approx.
2.25 times faster ...
HL2 - Lost Coast:
This time I have the time from the double click until the appearance of the menus stopped. More specifically, until the ink on the background image appears. It was always only ONCE HL2 started and abgestoppt since the 2nd Load times already a lot of data in RAM or Videoram. There were each stopped 5 times (also 5-boot), a precise value funds.
Samsung HD501LJ = 27.6 sec.
Hama SSD = 19.5 sec.
Difference nearly 42%
The repeated time after loading end of HL2 showed little difference (basic stands above). Since it is just 0.1 sec. (If any). It is important but the first after loading Windows Start.
Crysis:
This I Crysis on c: \ XP installed (such as HL2). I assumed that the loading time also depends on the settings - so that high resolution + AA / AF / details more data in RAM or Videoram land than with moderate attitude. Therefore, I have the highest setting (1920x1200 + + 16xAA high). I then a batch file for the GPU bench, as the intros, and the menu is being circumvented.
Stopped Auführen was from the batch file to the disappearance of the loading screen. Re with 5 passes (each after a restart).
The drives were (like HL2 also) first with Perfect Disk defragt the game installed and the same again defragt. So all very clean.
Samsung HD501LJ = 44.2 sec.
Hama SSD = 30.2 sec.
Difference approximately 46%
WinRar 3.70:
Here I simply the folder "dllcache" c: \ windows \ system32 \. It is about 450MB in size and includes 2460 files of a few hundred bytes of up to 13MB. Only small files would be naturally better for testing, but here is the Hama very strongly on the Samsung. The result would be even more dramatic with only small files.
Thus, the CPU is not the whole limited WinRar I have the option to "save".
Samsung = 28.5 sec.
Hama = 18.3 sec.
Approximately 56% difference! *OMG*
Windows boot time - vs. Hama. Seagate ST3160021A:
I have the OS on my work PC (Venice A64 3200 +, MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum) on the SSD cloned. In the PC handycrafts been 3 1 / 2 years with a 24/7-Betrieb Seagate ST3160021A (160GB - 2MB cache). Since the OS is already very crowded and some in the Quick Launch toolbar lands needs the chest about 3:25 minutes until HDD activity no longer be seen. What should I say? The result almost made me away ...
ST3160021A (160GB - 2MB cache) = 3:28 min
Hama = 1:28 minutes! *Aaargh*
Bright 2.36 times faster! *OMG*
Raid array:
So it looks like I can not Raid 0 on the ASUS create when you press F7 should immediately so a pop. It does not (freeze)
That would be very unfortunate if that is not suffering. Had me on Raid 0 pleased ...
The problem with raid on the ASUS is likely to be found. Either Drives are too small (some controllers to accept no small Drives) or the IDs of the drives are not allowed. So even with the 9650 series of 3ware. These controllers support SSD's NOT! Only the 9590 Series supports this, but merely coincidental or unintentionally (as you told me).
The controller of Areca but run well with SSDs.
http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=400991
http://mtron.net/Upload_Data/Spec/ASiC/MSP-SATA7035.pdf
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_State_Drive
http://www.ssdisk.eu/benchmark_pc_extreme_raid.php
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=7989640&postcount=336
http://www.hmk.de/datasheets/PM_HMK_SSD_0307.pdf
http://www.cis.nctu.edu.tw/~lpchang/papers/sac2007_ppt.pdf