View Full Version : Apogee GT enough for Q6600?
foodfightr
12-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Is an Apogee GT enough for a Q6600?
I'm seeing load temps 61/59/50/50 in core temp with 1.32v.
Laing DDC Pump (Petra Modded)
Thermochill PA120.3 Radiator
MCW-60 GPU Block
D-Tek Barbs
1/2" ID Tygon Lab Grade
Movieman
12-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Is an Apogee GT enough for a Q6600?
I'm seeing load temps 61/59/50/50 in core temp with 1.32v.
Laing DDC Pump (Petra Modded)
Thermochill PA120.3 Radiator
MCW-60 GPU Block
D-Tek Barbs
1/2" ID Tygon Lab Grade
Yes, plenty..My guess is from your temps the WB needs to be reseated or more than likely that cpu needs to be lapped..
Waterlogged
12-25-2007, 02:21 PM
Pics?
Fans? RPM's/volts?
Ambient?
You should be a bit lower than that as that Q6600 looks to be a G0.
Eddie3dfx
12-25-2007, 02:29 PM
I have a gt on a 260watt beast of a cpu (x3210 v1.55, 440x8)
& it works just fine.
My question is, how do you go about bowing it?
I don't see or have the gasket for it and I can't get any info on where to get it.
foodfightr
12-25-2007, 06:47 PM
I have a gt on a 260watt beast of a cpu (x3210 v1.55, 440x8)
& it works just fine.
My question is, how do you go about bowing it?
I don't see or have the gasket for it and I can't get any info on where to get it.
Bowing? Gasket?
Pics?
Fans? RPM's/volts?
Ambient?
You should be a bit lower than that as that Q6600 looks to be a G0.
3x Scythe S-Flex Fans at 1400 RPM on the radiator.
Two yate loon intake fans on the case
Two of the asus mini chipset fans on the boards mosfet.
Pics are here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=146479) (Different hardware, same loop. HIGH RES!)
Pics are here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2650595#post2650595) (Right hardware, same loop. LOW RES!)
Also I'm using Coollaboratory pro thermal grease to make the connection.
foodfightr
12-25-2007, 07:17 PM
WOAH.. I just reseated it and now its 45/48/35/39 idle... and if I even touch prime it almost instantly jumps to 80... what is going on ahhh
Waterlogged
12-25-2007, 07:25 PM
I take it this is how the block currently sits?
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4545/picture014eq3.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture014eq3.jpg)
Finished Product
Here it is, ready for action!
(You can see my reflection in the shiny black plastic at the upper right.)
...if so, try rotating the block 90º clockwise.
What are ambients?
foodfightr
12-25-2007, 07:30 PM
I take it this is how the block currently sits?
...if so, try rotating the block 90º clockwise.
What are ambients?
Cant rotate 90 clockwise.... AMbient temp is low, about 19.5^C
Ok so I reseated the processor again-- this time I just globbed on the coollaboratory pro thermal material. I was always told that less is best with thermal interface material so I always took a thin drop and spread it out as much as possible. This time I just pup a nice little glob on there and let the pressure of the headsink do the work.
43/47/40/40 load (1.288v CPU-z, approx 1.315 Bios)
Waterlogged
12-25-2007, 07:46 PM
Cant rotate 90 clockwise.
Why?...Tubing length?
What about Counter clockwise?
That's a nice drop but I think it could still go just a bit lower. Your still running ~20+ delta.
foodfightr
12-25-2007, 07:50 PM
Why?...Tubing length?
What about Counter clockwise?
That's a nice drop but I think it could still go just a bit lower. Your still running ~20+ delta.
~20+ delta huh? what do you mean?
the cpu block can't be rotate because its a rectangle and it has to mount like that?
Waterlogged
12-25-2007, 07:57 PM
~20+ delta huh? what do you mean?
the cpu block can't be rotate because its a rectangle and it has to mount like that?
I've been able to mount my Apogee's both directions without any problems at all.
The difference between your ambient and your CPU cores is ~20 to 27 degrees, this is the delta. I don't have exact #'s, but I think you should be capable of at worst a 15ºC delta.
Nate P.
12-25-2007, 08:07 PM
When I had a Apogee GT, I could mount it in any orientation... shouldn't be any issues...
Jedda
12-25-2007, 08:21 PM
I've been able to mount my Apogee's both directions without any problems at all.
The difference between your ambient and your CPU cores is ~20 to 27 degrees, this is the delta. I don't have exact #'s, but I think you should be capable of at worst a 15ºC delta.
QFA :up:
foodfightr
12-26-2007, 05:43 PM
Ok so I lapped my CPU and my CPU BLOCK today... Its probably not the greatest job in the entire world- but it came out pretty good.
I did about 2 minutes each at 320, 400, 600, 800, 1000.
For the CPU:
I taped down the sandpaper and dampened it. I swirled the CPU around in circles upside down. It resulted in a very smooth feeling, semi-mirror like surface. It still has some very fine looking scratches but I think that is probably because I stopped at 1000 grit. The entire top is now copper.
For the CPU BLOCK:
I didn't want to have to drain my system so I lapped it while it was on. I used a sanding block to ensure it would be flat with the block. I had similar or better.
My delta stays between 3-6^C. I'm trying to test 1.5v bios 1.48v (CPUZ) on my Q6600 and its staying between 55/58/54/53 and 60/60/59/59 in core temp. It fluctuates a lot between those temps.
Asus PC Probe II says 61-65^C... generally staying lower around the 61-62^C range.
Do these results sound correct? Am I asking for trouble?
So far so good at 4GHz.....
P.S. I'm using COOLABORATORY PRO thermal interface material... It comes in a syringe and I spread it lightly to coat the entire cpu top (very lightly) and got really poor temps. I globbed a bit on in the middle and let the pressure even it out and it improved my temps significantly. Its a very thin substance, but it almost always tops the thermal grease tests.... I'm kind of torn whether or not I should give it a shot with AS5 or one of the other pastes that came with my blocks.
foodfightr
12-26-2007, 05:48 PM
WHOOPS double post sorry!!
Get some MX-2 (http://www.petrastechshop.com/arcomxthco.html).
This stuff beats all (including AS5).
SiGfever
12-26-2007, 07:20 PM
When you first tried to spread the LMP did it "puddle" or did it flow evenly across the surfaces?
Getting it off of the surfaces will require lapping, I switched to MX-2 and do a double daub (BB size) over each core pair. LMP works great when the two surfaces are perfectly clean and a tiny bit will paint across the surfaces with little effort. But if they are not 100% clean the LMP will puddle and will not give you good temps. Plus there is a small chance of it seizing the blocks.