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sobol
12-04-2007, 04:17 AM
Hi
If id have 8800GTS 512MB what kind of benchmarks would you like to see ?

I would run 3Dmark2006/05 at stock and overclocked. I could compare scores to 8800GT.

How about games?



The review:

It wasn't possible to install nvidia generic drivers, neither 169.09 and 169.13 would work.
I had to use the Gigabyte included CD with 169.06.

Trick to enable 8800 GTS 512 support in newest Nvidia drivers.

Edit with notepad nv_disp.inf, and then you have to find and replace two lines.

UPDATE:
First line , find:
%NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0611.1% = nv_NV3x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0611

and replace with:

%NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0600.1% = nv_NV3x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0600
%NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0609.1% = nv_NV3x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0609
%NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0611.1% = nv_NV3x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0611
%NVIDIA_G92.DEV_061A.1% = nv_NV3x, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_061A

Second line, find:
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0611.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT"
and replace with:
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0600.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512"
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0609.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS"
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0611.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT"
NVIDIA_G92.DEV_061A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700"

Save/Install/Be happy =)

Here is the original bios:
http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/GIGABYTE-8800GTS-512MB-ORIG.ROM

Here is the GPU-Z screen shot:
http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/8800GTS-512-GPUZ.jpg


================================================== ==============


The performance test:
Sorry chaps, but I'm heading to the party and you will have to wait until tomorrow.

3Dmark2006:
Q6600 3.6GHZ GIGABYTE 8800GTS 512 @ STOCK CLOCK @ STOCK COOLING
Score: 13953


Main Test Results
3DMark Score 13953 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 5786 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 5523 Marks
CPU Score 5197 Marks

Detailed Test Results

Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 47.346 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 49.091 FPS

CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 1.714 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 2.521 FPS

HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 52.91 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 57.557 FPS


3Dmark2006:
Q6600 3.6GHZ GIGABYTE 8800GTS 512 @ 780/1916/1025 @ STOCK COOLING
Score: 15511

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 15511 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 6579 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 6257 Marks
CPU Score 5219 Marks

Detailed Test Results

Graphics Tests
1 - Return to Proxycon 54.24 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest 55.418 FPS

CPU Tests
CPU1 - Red Valley 1.738 FPS
CPU2 - Red Valley 2.507 FPS

HDR Tests
1 - Canyon Flight (SM 3.0) 60.157 FPS
2 - Deep Freeze (SM 3.0) 64.981 FPS


Q6600 3.6GHZ INNO3D 8800GTGT 512 @ STOCK
Score: 12711

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The photo gallery:

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/1.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/2.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/3.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/4.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/5.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/6.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/7.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/8.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/9.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/10.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/11.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/12.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/13.JPG

http://sobol.org/oc/GTS/SMALL/14.JPG

webwilli
12-04-2007, 04:36 AM
nice :D

Pics please if possible ;)

Games:

Crysis
CoD4
...

1680*1050 full details.

sobol
12-04-2007, 04:39 AM
nice :D

Pics please if possible ;)

Games:

Crysis
CoD4
...

1680*1050 full details.

Perfect, my screen is 22" with native 1680x1050.

I also have both games, so no problem and can do tests Tomorrow.
How can I record amount of FPS in those games ?

AriciU
12-04-2007, 05:28 AM
In Crysis you'll find two *.bat files in the Bin32 folder (the one where Crysis.exe is). One is called GPU and the other CPU. Run those and you'll get the results at the end. Each of them runs 4 loops of a timedemo. Also, take note that it uses your currently set game settings so adjust those before running them (1680x1050, all high, etc).

No idea about CoD though.

Eddie3dfx
12-04-2007, 05:39 AM
Oh Oh.. Tests.. lets see
Futuremark 3dmark-06
Lightmark 2007 (480gt, 515gtx).. im curious if the gts beats the gtx
Download ati tools, at stock core, find out what the maxium you can overclock the memory to.
Futuremark 3dmark-05 for fun
download gpuz and take screenshots of the data

sobol
12-04-2007, 05:40 AM
Oh Oh.. Tests.. lets see
Futuremark 3dmark-06
Lightmark 2007 (480gt, 515gtx).. im curious if the gts beats the gtx
Download ati tools, at stock core, find out what the maxium you can overclock the memory to.
Futuremark 3dmark-05 for fun
download gpuz and take screenshots of the data

Please read my initial post.

Eddie3dfx
12-04-2007, 09:17 AM
I can't even fathom, understand, or comprehend how people on xtremeforums, overclock.net, and others who say they have this card, cannot figure out how to run a series of benches, no offense.
It is very simple, go to guru3d.com and look at the benchmarks page.
Download fraps. go through a few series of quake wars and get the avg. Go to quake wars, run the gpu and cpu files.
Download the farcry bench file, download the demo of world in conflict and lost planet, since they both have internal benchmarks that can be executed on the options screen.
There are a million benchmarks, google them.
Here is a thread that drove me nuts and you can see why this has become a pet peeve for me. My post is on page 25-(246)
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/265072-new-8800gts-512mb-crysis-benchmark-updated-25.html

If you truely have this card, just post the benches, please don't ask anymore.

sobol
12-04-2007, 09:39 AM
By saying "please look at my initial post" i meant that I've already listed "3Dmark05" there. I also meant that I don't want obvious tips, sort of "run GPU-Z", just wanted to turn your advices politely.

Regarding game testing I forgot the "fraps" name. Thanks for reminding.


I can't even fathom, understand, or comprehend how people on xtremeforums, overclock.net, and others who say they have this card, cannot figure out how to run a series of benches, no offense.
It is very simple, go to guru3d.com and look at the benchmarks page.
Download fraps. go through a few series of quake wars and get the avg. Go to quake wars, run the gpu and cpu files.
Download the farcry bench file, download the demo of world in conflict and lost planet, since they both have internal benchmarks that can be executed on the options screen.
There are a million benchmarks, google them.
Here is a thread that drove me nuts and you can see why this has become a pet peeve for me. My post is on page 25-(246)
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/265072-new-8800gts-512mb-crysis-benchmark-updated-25.html

If you truely have this card, just post the benches, please don't ask anymore.

tdream
12-04-2007, 03:50 PM
Thanks sobol for the heads up *wink wink* mine should be here in a day or two :)

AriciU
12-04-2007, 11:44 PM
Post the scores already mate :)

RPGWiZaRD
12-05-2007, 02:02 AM
Just a hint...

If using games that doesn't come with integrated benchmark tools then best is to use different spots in games, such as loading a saved game and check what the fps is when standing still in the same spot.

oc_junkY
12-05-2007, 05:58 AM
Does anyone know about the 1024MB version of this card?

sobol
12-05-2007, 07:06 AM
Guys,
I was kinda expecting this parcel Today, although nothing came.
I've talked to a sender and the parcel is on its way. I've got the tracking number now.
The parcel will be here Tomorrow.

http://www.amtrak.co.uk/cgi-bin/tracking.cgi
Tracking no. 171391497938

I will post the photos, GPU-Z screen shot, 3dmark scores and maybe some benches
from Crysis tomorrow. Everything has wait till next day as I've got a big party.

Can't wait ! :)

webber0044
12-06-2007, 04:13 AM
Why did you buy the new GTS when you have a GT?

TiN_
12-06-2007, 05:00 AM
sobol

We are waitinig for hi-res photos w\o cooling ;) To compare if it's possible to transform 8800GT into GTS :) maybe difference is locked on PCB by some resistors :)

sobol
12-06-2007, 09:21 AM
sobol

We are waitinig for hi-res photos w\o cooling ;) To compare if it's possible to transform 8800GT into GTS :) maybe difference is locked on PCB by some resistors :)

I've got the card. I'll post what I can now, all in first post.

JasoN!!!
12-06-2007, 10:06 AM
I've got the card. I'll post what I can now, all in first post.

nice. post away if you have tf2 or portal an post your fps

fornowagain
12-06-2007, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the bios, but I just get a timeout. Could you free file host somewhere maybe?

Red Evil
12-06-2007, 10:55 AM
Pics dont load...

YukonTrooper
12-06-2007, 12:48 PM
Photo gallery doesn't work.

3DMark06 results don't look promising at all...

Pacha
12-06-2007, 03:23 PM
can you measure vgpu please? (I guess the read points are the same as GT)

sobol
12-06-2007, 07:05 PM
Thanks for the bios, but I just get a timeout. Could you free file host somewhere maybe?

Seems that my server's wireless connection died, probably because of the traffic. It should be back on now. I will also re-size the photos now.

More tests, tomorrow. I just came back from the party.

Philip_J_Fry
12-07-2007, 12:26 AM
pics links r down ...

anyway the difference between GT 512 and GTS 512 resembles GTS vs GTX

GTS 512 has:
8 more ROP (24 vs 16?)
16 more shaders (128 vs 112)
8 more Texture Address Unit, and Texture Filtering units (64 vs 58)

than GT 512

according to wiki it has more shader processing power than Ultra. the only thing holds it back is the mere 256bit interface and 512MB RAM, in 1920x1080 or above tho ... 512 is fine for 1680

GAR
12-07-2007, 08:39 AM
i get 15k with my gt at 756/1890/1900 in vista 64

YukonTrooper
12-07-2007, 10:11 AM
i get 15k with my gt at 756/1890/1900 in vista 64
What's your GPU score without the CPU tallied in?

@Sobol - Post just your GPU scores, not your total 3DMark06 scores with CPU points combined.

sobol
12-07-2007, 02:48 PM
What's your GPU score without the CPU tallied in?

@Sobol - Post just your GPU scores, not your total 3DMark06 scores with CPU points combined.

That's done.

Also trick to get generic nvidia drivers work with new 8800GTS 512 posted.

I'm now to overclocking.
The only tool that works is Expert Tool from Gainward - http://www.gainward.net/support/XPRT_59.zip

I can see that bios has a maximum core voltage set to 1.15v which
is 0.05v higher then 8800GT.

I'm trying to find max stable OC, without changing fan speed, on stock Voltage.

Next I'll try to crank up V and see what's the gain.


ps. the fan is quiet

T_M
12-09-2007, 12:01 AM
ATitool 0.26 works ;)
Anyone with tips how to get Rivatuner to work?

Thanks for sharing the tip on drivers.
For now ill just stick with the XFX CD ones.

Tech Noob
12-09-2007, 12:27 PM
If you have a GT, how about benchmarking them both in crysis and comparing results?

only benchmark atm is on tweaktown and doesn't seem legit.

TiN_
12-09-2007, 12:43 PM
Hires photos of card w\o cooler please...

sobol
12-09-2007, 03:54 PM
If you have a GT, how about benchmarking them both in crysis and comparing results?

only benchmark atm is on tweaktown and doesn't seem legit.

Sorry mate, but don't have any other card then 8800GTS.

Regarding the high res pic without cooler, sorry mate but the card is on sale (ebay) and I'm offering it with guarantee so can't take it off.

ownage
12-09-2007, 05:05 PM
That GTS512mb cooling looks just unbelievable ugly. It looks like something they digged up back from WWO2 or something. Wouldn't be a problem for me since i would watercool it, but most ppl dont, so it would have been better to have a nice spectacular cooling solution.

Tech Noob
12-10-2007, 12:26 PM
okie sobol.

TiN is this what you want? http://en.expreview.com/?p=84

Tech Noob
12-10-2007, 12:29 PM
That GTS512mb cooling looks just unbelievable ugly. It looks like something they digged up back from WWO2 or something. Wouldn't be a problem for me since i would watercool it, but most ppl dont, so it would have been better to have a nice spectacular cooling solution.

the thing is. most people don't care what the card looks like only how it performs. some people LIKE the way it looks, alot. but most importantly the cooler is WAY better than previous nvidia coolers. especially the one on the GT. check out the link i posted above. has 3 pipes and better fan. the asus TOP is clocked at 740 core. people will be overclocking these cards to well high amounts because of 65nm process and THIS cooler. surely you can forgive its ugliness?

roman63
12-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Anyone with tips how to get Rivatuner to work?Change "RivaTuner.cfg" => http://download.nforce.cz/Temp/PCT/RivaTuner.rar :yepp:

sobol
12-11-2007, 12:48 AM
Change "RivaTuner.cfg" => http://download.nforce.cz/Temp/PCT/RivaTuner.rar :yepp:

Great stuff mate ! that worked. I should think of this earlier :/

initialised
01-09-2008, 08:42 AM
Does anyone know about the 1024MB version of this card? The Firing Squad did this review (http://firingsquad.com/hardware/palit_geforce_8800_gt_super+_1gb_review/default.asp) The extra RAM doesn't make a difference except at very high in Oblivion and Crysis at 2560x1600.