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fallwind
11-16-2007, 01:05 PM
See my sig for the test setup. All results are atleast 30min quad Prime stable, no suicide CPU-z or 1M runs here. CPU was purchased as OEM and is a week 39A. Ambient temp is 20c.

stock idle temps:
http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/stock_idle.JPG

stock load temps(small FFT):
http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/stock_load.JPG

I'm not sure what it up with core 0 temp being 5c higher. I'll reseat the block later on.

3600MHz at stock vcore:
http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/3600.JPG

Just installed this CPU like an hour ago so definitely stay tuned for more! :up:

Movieman
11-16-2007, 01:15 PM
Congrats! You know what I want to see..
What will it do loaded 24/7 on water?:D
Best of Luck with this!:up:

georgesod
11-16-2007, 01:27 PM
How much m8? Wish u a 4400 for 24/7

fallwind
11-16-2007, 01:32 PM
Absolutely MM! :) This thing has got to fold 24/7 or it's of no use to me...lol!

georgesod,
$1170 Canadian which is about the same in USD. Only 1 or 2 places in Canada got stock of these so I scooped one up quick at launch.

Movieman
11-16-2007, 01:37 PM
Absolutely MM! :) This thing has got to fold 24/7 or it's of no use to me...lol!

georgesod,
$1170 Canadian which is about the same in USD. Only 1 or 2 places in Canada got stock of these so I scooped one up quick at launch.

My guess is at 4000 it will do close to 20K a day in WCG..
At 4500 it will out do my clovers at 3000..
That's what I think, not know.
Your job, Mr.Phelps, should you decide to accept it(Mission Impossible) is to see if my thinking is right or in the toilet!:D

Yoxxy
11-16-2007, 01:39 PM
I have mine running at 4200 stable on water. They start to get very hot over 4000 mhz.

fallwind
11-16-2007, 01:42 PM
My guess is at 4000 it will do close to 20K a day in WCG..
At 4500 it will out do my clovers at 3000..
That's what I think, not know.
Your job, Mr.Phelps, should you decide to accept it(Mission Impossible) is to see if my thinking is right or in the toilet!:D


I'll post some BOINC benches with XP Pro and Vista x64 once the OC is finalized.

JAG87
11-16-2007, 01:49 PM
lets see some >4 ghz prime stable shots!

Movieman
11-16-2007, 01:51 PM
I have mine running at 4200 stable on water. They start to get very hot over 4000 mhz.
WCG?:D I know, I'm a persistant SOB but I'm honest about it!:wasntme:

I'll post some BOINC benches with XP Pro and Vista x64 once the OC is finalized.

good luck!:up:

BNDMOD
11-16-2007, 01:52 PM
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CrashOv3r1De
11-16-2007, 01:56 PM
Looks like this going to be an interesting thread, good luck with the cpu :toast:

Looking for some > 4Ghz 24/7 stable and some 3dmark runs

fallwind
11-16-2007, 02:11 PM
3800MHZ, had to bump vcore a tad.

http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/3800.JPG

iadstudio
11-16-2007, 02:28 PM
can you run some sort of bench so we can see what it'll do as it scales?

nachthymnen
11-16-2007, 03:02 PM
Go go:up:
Next week I'll receive mine:D
Can't wait 1 more week:(

Omastar
11-16-2007, 03:12 PM
I wish I was getting this for Christmas, but I'd rather not ask for one very expensive present like that. ;)

Good luck, I'm sure it'll do 4GHz PRIME stable.

dinos22
11-16-2007, 03:14 PM
I wish I was getting this for Christmas, but I'd rather not ask for one very expensive present like that. ;)

Good luck, I'm sure it'll do 4GHz PRIME stable.

easy

probably top out around 4.2-4.3 range :D depending on how much voltage he wants to give but they will take just about anything heheheh
if he is prepared for more then 4.4 wouldn't be out of the question if the chip is very good :)

Omastar
11-16-2007, 03:17 PM
Do they really get significantly hotter over 4GHz, dinos? In your experience, that is.

fallwind
11-16-2007, 03:24 PM
4000MHZ, vcore set to 1.35 in BIOS. I'll save the benches and Pi runs for later when I bring the FSB and RAM up to speed. Right now I'm concentrating on what the CPU can do.

dinos22
11-16-2007, 03:30 PM
Do they really get significantly hotter over 4GHz, dinos? In your experience, that is.

no they don't
not sure who told you that

but i benched mine on single stage (ES one) and compared to E6750 it idles lower by 1C and under load it's about 1C higher (evap temps i am talking about)

we are talking about 4.8Ghz OC here with 1.76V in both CPUs :shocked:

the chip is REALLY cool :up:

dinos22
11-16-2007, 03:31 PM
4000MHZ, vcore set to 1.35 in BIOS. I'll save the benches and Pi runs for later when I bring the FSB and RAM up to speed. Right now I'm concentrating on what the CPU can do.

impressive to say the least :clap: :up:

nachthymnen
11-16-2007, 03:35 PM
This chip is cold:D
Did you "touch" the GTL voltages?

fallwind
11-16-2007, 03:50 PM
Board voltages are all stock for now. 4.2 is giving me some headache because core 1 keeps crapping out. I'll keep pushing though.

Yoxxy
11-16-2007, 04:00 PM
no they don't
not sure who told you that

but i benched mine on single stage (ES one) and compared to E6750 it idles lower by 1C and under load it's about 1C higher (evap temps i am talking about)

we are talking about 4.8Ghz OC here with 1.76V in both CPUs :shocked:

the chip is REALLY cool :up:

Not on single stage, I am saying they start to get core hot over 4.1-4.2 ghz. The heatload isn't the problem. That is easy to maintain, but for AIR/Water the coretemps start to get high 50's low 60's over 4.1+ ghz with 1.40v+.

Tested 3 chips and all have exhibited the same characteristics.

Crazypinoy9
11-16-2007, 04:05 PM
this is awesome....my ss phase is gonna love this chip!

anyone looking for a QX6850 or a QX6700? LOL!!!! j/k

dinos22
11-16-2007, 04:11 PM
Not on single stage, I am saying they start to get core hot over 4.1-4.2 ghz. The heatload isn't the problem. That is easy to maintain, but for AIR/Water the coretemps start to get high 50's low 60's over 4.1+ ghz with 1.40v+.

Tested 3 chips and all have exhibited the same characteristics.

i understand

that is still very cool yoxxy considering the overclock but i see where you're coming from :)

lucky bugger tested 3 already heh :)

metro.cl
11-16-2007, 04:14 PM
Really nice test 4.2GHz for stability

Nate P.
11-16-2007, 04:16 PM
Oooo, awesome results! Penryn is looking REALLY good right now...

DarthBeavis
11-16-2007, 04:51 PM
If they would release a Striker Extreme bios update I will pop mine in a see how far I can push it . . .no cascade tho . . .only single stage.

egandt
11-16-2007, 05:09 PM
I ahve one on water running at 3.88 at 1.3125 or 1.295 in Windows XP x64 stable for over 4 hours with 4x copies of Prime95, my problem is that my MB a Maximus Formula will not allow me to set the CPU ratio in bios, jusr does not show the option, so I'm stuck with 9x430 which is a problem, both for RAM speed and also for stability as any FSB over 434 causes prime95 to instantly crash, although super pie 16M works fine at that speed.

I've gotten Windows to boot at 1.325V as high as 4400, but then I encountered the multipler problem, have have not been able to switch back to 11x on the CPU yet.

ERIC

CrashOv3r1De
11-16-2007, 05:15 PM
Awesome results my man :toast: i was originally going to get a q600 for my new rig but now i want a penryn

CoW]8(0)
11-16-2007, 06:01 PM
Since when did MBM support 4 cores?

GAR
11-16-2007, 06:24 PM
wow, 4ghz with 1.3v??? thats insane!!!!!

fallwind
11-16-2007, 06:33 PM
^^Since someone wrote a coretemp plugin for it. Google should be able to find it for you.

4200 looks like the end of the road as far as Prime stable goes. I'm up to 1.4625v in BIOS, 1.45v failed after 20min. Core 1 is the weak link. The other 3 will prime away happily even at 4400! :(

CrashOv3r1De
11-16-2007, 07:13 PM
2GB or 4GB ram?

fallwind
11-16-2007, 07:32 PM
^^2gb.

4200MHz, end of the road as I don't feel comfortable pushing the vcore or temps any higher. 1.4625v BIOS, 1.42v real, seems like I may have run into a CPU-z bug in that regards.

Check out the FSB and multi though! :D Now I'm off to setup the RAM OC and make sure it'll pass some large FFT as well. Benchmarks to follow.

rbsmontemor
11-16-2007, 07:38 PM
That's great!!! What's max. fsb??

3dmark06 now hahahah

Congratz.

Rbs.
:wave:

dinos22
11-16-2007, 07:41 PM
^^2gb.

4200MHz, end of the road as I don't feel comfortable pushing the vcore or temps any higher. 1.4625v BIOS, 1.42v real, seems like I may have run into a CPU-z bug in that regards.

Check out the FSB and multi though! :D Now I'm off to setup the RAM OC and make sure it'll pass some large FFT as well. Benchmarks to follow.

excellent
bump the vcore to 1.47v for 4.3Ghz now :D

fallwind
11-16-2007, 07:43 PM
I tried 489FSB and it wouldn't even post, atleast not with stock MB voltages. So it looks like these 45nm quads have similar FSB limits as the 65nm Kentsfields.

JAG87
11-16-2007, 07:46 PM
nice results

looks like 4.4ghz is a long shot. might be doable with more voltage, but it isn't really safe.

rbsmontemor
11-16-2007, 07:47 PM
I tried 489FSB and it wouldn't even post, atleast not with stock MB voltages. So it looks like these 45nm quads have similar FSB limits as the 65nm Kentsfields.

Sad :( I have no money for one of those babes. Going to buy a Q9550...8,5x multi :(

Rbs.
:wave:

Movieman
11-16-2007, 07:49 PM
I tried 489FSB and it wouldn't even post, atleast not with stock MB voltages. So it looks like these 45nm quads have similar FSB limits as the 65nm Kentsfields.

Hey, 4200 ain't bad..Like a Kents at 4600+ and thats nothing to sneeze at.
My Q6600 will do almost 4100, maybe more with a more knowledgeable person doing the tweaking and you kill it's performance with that Yorkie!:up:

hecktic
11-16-2007, 07:56 PM
go sub zero temps now!

DarthBeavis
11-16-2007, 08:02 PM
I can't even get to boot into windows . . .BSOD over and over . . .try to manually set the Vcore in bios and the bios freezes . . .need new bios!!!!

kmtyb
11-16-2007, 10:17 PM
I have mine running prime stable at 4.2GHz with core voltage around 1.49 with core temp not going higher than 68.

ShambleS
11-16-2007, 10:31 PM
were the ones using a Q6600 previously able to run at the same fsb when overclocked on the QX9650.
Or does one of them have a lower FSB?
(does the extra multiple on the QX9650 get hindered by a lower max fsb?)

And has any one used the QX9650 on a 800mhz system and if so what was the overclock you managed to achieve?

Nice over clock by the way, I only ever managed 3.9 on my pentium D and then it wouldnt boot windows. so ended up with 3.705.
My Q6600 i cant get above 300x9. " i think 300mhz on the cpu maxes out my boards fsb."

nachthymnen
11-17-2007, 02:21 AM
I tried 489FSB and it wouldn't even post, atleast not with stock MB voltages. So it looks like these 45nm quads have similar FSB limits as the 65nm Kentsfields.

Well 489FSB for a quad it's :eek: :up:

chatmaster
11-17-2007, 03:05 AM
great work, I'm loving the yields on these new chips. cant wait till the mainstream chips come.

do you know what the heatspreader is like? is it flat? or ...

Family man 72
11-17-2007, 03:12 AM
How about trying multi 11 and lower fsb??

fallwind
11-17-2007, 07:22 AM
Well, 467x9 wasn't stable either. As soon as I fired up large FFT's it BSOD'd and corrupted my OS! :shakes: Took most of the night to get it back working again. 420x10 is no problem so I'll stick with that. I'm off to bed, gonna let it run Prime in blend mode and then run some benchmarks later on.

CrashOv3r1De
11-17-2007, 09:08 AM
Very nice results. 4.2Ghz is great for day to day use who we kidding and those load temps are fine for daily use as well. Congrats m8 :toast:

What were your ram settings/timings/etc while you were testing the cpu out

fallwind
11-17-2007, 09:38 AM
RAM was 1:1 5-5-5-15 2T, so it's way underclocked. At 420x10 my best option is 1050MHz with the 4:5 divider and using the 266MHz FSB strap.

CrashOv3r1De
11-17-2007, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the info, let me know what the new timings will be and what cpu clock you will be running for 24/7

Slay0r
11-17-2007, 10:32 AM
Cpu-z 1.41 (http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-141.zip) should be able to read vcores above 1.4

good clocking :up:

kiwi
11-17-2007, 11:34 AM
Non XE quads will be starving for high FSB. 9x is minimum for these

JAG87
11-17-2007, 01:07 PM
4.2 Ghz is nothing to sneeze at. I would say its the average for these retail XE chips, with some of them hitting a bit higher if one is willing to give it more than 1.45v. It comes down to how much 1000 dollars is worth to you :)

ps. kiwi I heart your avatar

egandt
11-17-2007, 03:05 PM
Mine on Water does about 4070MHz Prime95 Stable at 1.375 (1.360 under load), I was unwilling to go any higher on the voltage. As for Super PI I can complete that at the same voltage as above at up to 4300MHz, but prime95 crashes after about 1 second, as soon as I exceed 4070MHz

ERIC

fallwind
11-18-2007, 03:20 AM
Time for more screen shots! :D The pics are pretty big so I'll just link 'em.

First out the gate is 15 hours of P95 on blend at 4200MHz. (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/15h_prime.JPG)

Then some Super Pi action! (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/superpi.JPG)

Gaming benchmarks:

3DMark05 (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/3d05.JPG)
3DMark06 (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/3d06.JPG)
Crysis GPU and CPU benches (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/crysis.JPG) 1920x1200 all high settings, no AA.

Sisoft Sandra benchmarks

Arithmetic (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/arithmatic.JPG)
Memory Bandwidth (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/bandwidth.JPG)
Intercore Bandwidth (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/intercore.JPG)
Memory Latency (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/latency.JPG)

BOINC Benchmarks:

XP Pro SP2 x86 (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/boinc_bench_x86.JPG)
Vista Ultimate x64 (http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/QX9650/boinc_bench_x64.jpg)

hiwa
11-18-2007, 03:25 AM
cool one :shrug: :shrug:

CrashOv3r1De
11-18-2007, 10:31 AM
Awesome, hope you're happy with it!

Dede99
11-18-2007, 02:05 PM
45nm is really great hope they come soon out here in EU :) gues I'll get one.
Have fun with it BRO

CERO
11-18-2007, 02:31 PM
nothing to disappointing about it, great clock for 24/7 use, very promising those Yorkies, not so long ago the g0 kentfield impressed me and now the yorkies takes the quad cores to a new level:shocked: