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Nelly

11-08-2007, 05:17 PM

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Reviews

Compatable Air Cooling List (NOTE: Doesnt take into consideration case sizes)

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme (http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_ultra120_extreme.htm)
Thermaright Ultra-120A (http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_ultra120a.htm)

Noctua NH-U12P (http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=14&lng=en)
Noctua NH-U12F (http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=6&lng=en) <Discontinued>

Tuniq Tower 120 Blue LED CPU Cooler (http://www.tuniq.com.tw/Cooler%20Info/Tower-120LFB.htm)
Tuniq Tower 120 (http://www.tuniq.com.tw/Cooler%20Info/Tower-120.htm)

Enzotech Extreme-X (http://www.enzotechnology.com/extreme_x.htm)
Enzotech Ultra-X (http://www.enzotechnology.com/cpu.htm)

Scythe "MINE Rev.B " 3Heat Pipes CPU Cooler (http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/025/scmn1100.html)

Zalman CNPS9700 LED Aero Flower (http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=229&code=009)
Zalman CNPS9700 NT Aero Flower (http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=231&code=005)
Zalman CNPS9500-AT Aero Flower (http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=193&code=009)

ChillTec Thermo Electric CPU Cooler (http://www.ultraproducts.com/product_details.php?cPath=17&pPath=571&productID=571)

ZEROtherm Nirvana NV120 Premium CPU Cooler (http://www.zerotherm.net/eng/product/NV120P.asp)

Compatable Ram List - Bootable with default voltage to bios

'CLICK HERE' - ABIT'S Official Compatable Ram List (http://www.abit.com.tw/test-report/ix38-quadgt.htm?2)

Corsair 2GB Dominator DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/QUAD2X4096-8500C5DF.pdf)
Corsair 4GB XMS2 DHX DDR2 PC2-6400 (4x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX.pdf)
Corsair 4GB XMS2 DHX DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX.pdf)
Corsair 4GB XMS2 DHX DDR2 PC2-6400 (4x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/QUAD2X4096-6400C5DHX.pdf)
Corsair 2GB Dominator DDR2 PC2-8888 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF.pdf)
Corsair 2GB Dominator DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS3 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X2048-6400C3DF.pdf)
Corsair 2GB Dominator DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/specs/TWIN2X2048-8500C5D.pdf)
Corsair 2GB TwinX DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X2048-6400C4.pdf)

G.Skill 4GB DDR2 PK PC2-8500 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=115)
G.Skill 4GB DDR2 PQ PC2-8000 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=105)
G.Skill 4GB DDR2 PQ PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=95)
G.Skill 4GB DDR2 PK PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS4 (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=98)
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 HZ PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=103)
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 HK PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://newgskill.web-bi.net/bbs/view.php?id=g_ddr2&no=100)

Mushkin 2GB DDR2 EM2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=373)

Crucial 4GB Ballistix Red Tracer DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS4 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT25664AR804)
Crucial 4GB Ballistix Black Tracer DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS4 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT25664AL804)
Crucial 4GB Ballistix DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS4 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT25664AA804)
Crucial 2GB Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BL2KIT12864AL1065)
Crucial 2GB Ballistix DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BL2KIT12864AA1065)
Crucial 2GB Ballistix DDR2 PC2-8000 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BL2KIT12864AA1065) <Discontinued>
Crucial 2GB Ballistix DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BL2KIT12864AA804)
Crucial 2GB Ballistix DDR2 PC2-5300 (2x1GB) CAS3 (http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=BL2KIT12864AA663)
Crucial 2GB 10th Anniversary DDR2 PC2-5300 (2x1GB) CAS3 (http://www.crucial.com/promo/index.asp?prog=uslp_ten) (Limited Edition) <Discontinued>

OCZ 4GB FlexXLC Edition DDR2 PC-9200 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_9200_flex_ii_4gb_series)
OCZ 2GB REAPER HPC Edition DDR2 PC-9200 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_9200_reaper_hpc_edition)
OCZ 2GB REAPER HPC Edition DDR2 PC-8500 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_reaper_hpc_edition)
OCZ 2GB FlexXLC Edition DDR2 PC2-9200 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_9200_flexxlc_edition)
OCZ 2GB SLI-Ready Edition DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_sli_ready_edition_dual_channel)
OCZ 2GB SLI-Ready Edition DDR2 PC2-7200 (4x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_7200_sli_ready_edition_dual_channel)
OCZ 2GB SLI-Ready Edition DDR2 PC2-7200 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_7200_sli_ready_edition_dual_channel)
OCZ 2GB Platinum XTC Series DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_platinum_dual_channel)

Geil 8GB EVO ONE DDR2 PC2-8500 (4x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.geilusa.com/products/showSpec/id/131)
Geil 4GB EVO ONE DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.geilusa.com/products/showSpec/id/131)
Geil 8GB EVO ONE DDR2 PC2-6400 (4x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.geilusa.com/products/showSpec/id/129)
Geil 4GB EVO ONE DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.geilusa.com/products/showSpec/id/129)
Geil 2GB EVO ONE DDR2 PC2-8500 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.geilusa.com/products/showSpec/id/130)

Kingston HyperX 2GB DDR2 PC2-9600 (2x1GB) CAS5 (http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX9600D2K2_2G.pdf)

Patriot Extreme Performance 8GB DDR2 PC2-6400 (4x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.patriotmemory.com/products/detailp.jsp?prodline=5&catid=2&prodgroupid=38&id=593&type=1)
Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 (2x2GB) CAS5 (http://www.patriotmemory.com/products/detailp.jsp?prodline=5&catid=2&prodgroupid=38&id=593&type=1)

Official BIOS

WARNING:- DO NOT USE THE WINDOWS FLASHMENU METHOD TO UPDATE YOUR BIOS, HIGH RISK OF BIOS FAILIURE!

CPU support list (http://www.abit.com.tw/cpu-support-list/mb/intel_p965_ab9-quadgt.htm)
How to update the BIOS? (http://www.abit.com.tw/page/uk/download/guide.php)
How to boot an Abit board from a USB flash drive
(http://forum.uabit.com/showthread.php?t=121953) AWDFLASH revision 20061017172020 - 13/10/2006 (ftp://ftp.abitshop.com/pub/bios/awdflash/AWDFLASH.ZIP)

BIOS ID:13 (ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/ix38quadgt//m704d13.zip)

1. Fixed PS2 keyboard not wake up when S1 status.
2. Fixed the cause system hang that PS2 keyboard press Del to enter BIOS.
3. Fixed Wake up by WAKE# of PCIe function abnormality.
4. Fixed CPU temperature abnormality when S3 return.
5. Support CPU half multiplier.
6. Fixed QX9650 multiplier abnormality.
7. Fixed display of DRAM speed abnormality in BIOS.
8. Fixed C1E and EIST function.
9. BIOS compiled date: 05/09/2008.

BIOS ID:12 (http://file.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/ix38quadgt//m704d11.zip)

1. Fixed Command rate function abnormality.
2. Fixed DRAM Timing abnormal.
3. Update JMB363 ROM version.
4. Fixed twice boot issue.
5. Enhanced Intel 45nm CPU compatibility.
6. BIOS compiled date: 10/01/2008.

BIOS ID:11 (http://file.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/ix38quadgt//m704d11.zip)

1. Enhanced the S3 compatibility.
2. Enhanced USB keyboard and Mouse compatibility.
3. Correct the CPU/DRAM Voltage function.
4. BIOS compiled date: 10/11/2007.

BIOS ID:10 (http://file.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/ix38quadgt//m704d10.zip)

1. First release.
2. BIOS compiled date: 2/11/2007.

Beta BIOS

WARNING:- DO NOT USE THE WINDOWS FLASHMENU METHOD TO UPDATE YOUR BIOS, HIGH RISK OF BIOS FAILIURE!

DISCLAIMER:
Universal abit will not be held responsible or liable for any damage made with using a BETA BIOS.
Please proceed with discretion and do not attempt to use unless you know what you are doing!

Instruction Manual

DRIVERS - Last checked 19th June 2008.

RAID/AHCI Software - Intel® Matrix Storage Manager v 8.2.0.1001 for 2000 / XP / XP 64bit / 2003 / 2003 64bit / Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=2101&DwnldID=16012&strOSs=45&OSFullName=Windows*%20XP%20Home%20Edition&lang=eng) - 2nd June 08 *NEW*

INTEL Chipset Driver v 9.0.0.1008 for 2000 / XP / XP 64bit / 2003 / 2003 64bit / Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16026/a08/infinst_autol.zip&agr=N&ProductID=816&DwnldId=16026&strOSs=All&OSFullName=All%20Operating%20Systems&lang=eng) - 2nd June 08 *NEW*

32-bit Floppy Configuration Utility for Intel® Matrix Storage Manager (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/16013/eng/f6flpy32.zip&agr=&ProductID=2101&DwnldId=16013&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng) - 2nd June 08 *NEW*
Creates floppy disk for 32-bit OS with Intel® Matrix Storage Manager 8.2.0.1001 files - used to preinstall RAID driver (F6 during Windows* setup).

JMicron SATA Driver V 1.17.37 for 2000 / XP / XP 64bit / 2003 / 2003 64bit / Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/Win2k_xp_Vista/JMB36X_WinDrv_WHQL_R1.17.37WHQL.zip) - 27th May 08 *NEW*

Realtek 8110SC Gigabit Lan V6.87 Driver for Win9x/Me/2000/XP/2003 (ftp://202.65.194.212/cn/nic/Driver_5687_XP_0520.zip) - 21st May 08

Realtek 8110SC Gigabit Lan V6.206 Driver for Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (ftp://66.104.77.130/cn/nic/Install_Vista_6206_0520.zip) - 21st May 08

Realtek High Audio Definition R196 Driver for 2000 / XP / XP 64bit / 2003 / 2003 64bit (ftp://66.104.77.130/pc/audio/WDM_R196.zip) - 18th June 08 *NEW*

Realtek High Audio Definition R196 Driver for Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (ftp://202.65.194.212/pc/audio/Vista_R196.zip) - 18th June 08 *NEW*

Abit AirPace Wi-Fi Card Driver v5.1.1.10 for 2000 / XP / XP 64bit / 2003 / 2003 64bit / Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (ftp://ftp.abitshop.com/pub/driver2/airpace/wifi_U1011_20070511.zip) - 11th September 07

Utilities

Abit uGuru 3.1X v3.109 for 2000 / XP / XP 64bit / 2003 / 2003 64bit / Vista 32bit / Vista 64bit (ftp://ftp.abitshop.com/pub/utilities/uguru/uguru3109.zip) - 6th May 08 *NEW*

JPxM0Dz

11-08-2007, 07:01 PM

Nice! Subscribed ;)

Living Review: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/815-abit-ix38-quadgt-living-review.html

GAR

11-08-2007, 08:37 PM

anyone selling this in the US yet????

Heidfirst

11-08-2007, 08:54 PM

the version of uGuru on the CD shipping with the mobo is 3.1.0.6

strange|ife

11-08-2007, 09:07 PM

sweeet nelly, lets see some results if you have one. Like others the 5 phase digital pwm is a worry, but it may all be gravy so ya results!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant find one here in the states, ive looked at all the online places. I think ill check Frys tommrow on the way over to my dads.

one thing about the BIOS date, i think it should be changed, to 11/2/07 as not to confuse newcomers. And the link to the compatible rams just throws you too the abit global index page.

CornerJack

11-09-2007, 01:39 AM

I await this motherboard today...

jooney

11-09-2007, 03:29 AM

How much droop has it with a Quadcore?
And does the Vcore goes down in idle with EIST and OC(manual VCore Setting).

pinto

11-09-2007, 04:41 AM

Got mine today!
0.03v for the drop 1.6v idle to 1.57v full load

strange|ife

11-09-2007, 04:44 AM

was that a quad or your dual pinto? nice though. post screens of the bios settings perhaps?:cool:

i notice ncix had it listed, now its out of stock 2-5 days. newegg should have em by monday

pinto

11-09-2007, 05:37 AM

A q6600@3.9ghz, screen as soon as i'm come back home.

jcool

11-09-2007, 12:15 PM

Looks nice indeed... just thinking about getting one myself.
If only Intel wouldn't have boasted about the x48 hitting the market so soon :/

Larry

11-09-2007, 12:27 PM

Whats the mosfets and chipset temps like with stock cooling?

dinos22

11-09-2007, 04:10 PM

that's great man
really comprehensive writeup here :up:

Mu3rt3

11-09-2007, 10:43 PM

does it support uguru panel ? (http://www.abit.com.tw/upload/products/guru-panel.htm) :confused:

pinto

11-10-2007, 01:17 AM

70°c+ priming for the hottest phase

now ith the stock bios performance are equal to maximus for me (not tested max fsb yet):

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9351/3d06162988800gtaw7.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3d06162988800gtaw7.jpg)

Heidfirst

11-10-2007, 03:45 AM

does it support uguru panel ? (http://www.abit.com.tw/upload/products/guru-panel.htm) :confused:
the hardware feed should work as the header is on the board, the software for email alerts etc. probably won't as the GP-02 was meant for the 2nd generation uGuru chip & the IX38 uses the 3rd gen chip.
There was meant to be a GP-03 (originally to be bundled with the IX38-MAX)but that was cancelled at a late stage but it was maybe just a redesign as I've heard a rumour that another is on the way again. :shrug:

RLM

11-10-2007, 05:57 AM

70°c+ priming for the hottest phase

now ith the stock bios performance are equal to maximus for me (not tested max fsb yet):

I've had a few bevvies, so may well be misreading your posts and regret this post later, but I'm a bit surprised by your results.

This was mine with a GTX and P5K deluxe.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1929/3dmark06rlm8or0.jpg

Your cpu looks better clock for clock than mine. Am I reading that right though an Ultra 750/1881/1050. What drivers?

RLM

pinto

11-10-2007, 05:59 AM

I've had a few bevvies, so may well be misreading your posts and regret this post later, but I'm a bit surprised by your results.

This was mine with a GTX and P5K deluxe.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1929/3dmark06rlm8or0.jpg

Your cpu looks better clock for clock than mine. Am I reading that right though an Ultra 750/1881/1050. What drivers?

RLM

My video card is only a 8800GT not GTX or Ultra

RLM

11-10-2007, 06:41 AM

Sorry mate, mis read, was reading your sig "8800 Ultra Asus". All good then.

No more posts for tonight then.

RLM

jcool

11-10-2007, 06:44 PM

Ok decision made- I'm gonna get this board.
Will post results with my 4Gigs of ram (currently maxed out at ~950) and the 3210.

strange|ife

11-11-2007, 01:25 AM

man ths blows, hurry up abit get a board out to us needy yanks.

nordien

11-11-2007, 03:24 AM

Friday i picked up my IX38. I was an Aw9D-Max user.
My first findings are positive.

I'm running:
E6600 @ 3.6 ghz @ 9*400 @ 1.4v with a Tuniq Tower
OCZ Titanium Alpha VX @ DDR1000 @ 5-4-4-16 @ 2.3v
Everest read 8970 mb/s
Everest write 7320 mb/s
Everest copy 8307 mb/s
Everest latency 54.2 ns
3Dmark6 13153 with a eVGA 8800 GTX @ 625/1512/1000
On the max i couldnt do DDR1000. I tried 8*450 @ 1.4v and that also works.
6*500 doesnt work very good. I have to put to much volt on the mobo and cpu so i think my E6600 is the problem.

First impressions:

Needs lower vCore to reach the same level as the AW9D_max, Great layout, build quality, overclocking works with C1E and Eist ON, @ 1.4v on the core the PWM'S are around 60 degrees celcius, super stable, uGuru is awesome again, Cmos button on the i/o panel, start and reset button's on the mobo.

Now on to the penryn !

Parad0x

11-11-2007, 07:13 AM

TheSamurai

11-11-2007, 07:32 AM

yeah.... and what were your volts, pinto? lol

pinto

11-11-2007, 10:02 AM

watercooling for the cpu stock cooling on the board. 1.65v for the Q6600 so 1.62v full load

jcool

11-11-2007, 02:27 PM

I really like what I've seen so far.
Major bugs/problems yet anyone?

pinto

11-11-2007, 02:34 PM

after a crash the bios always reset oc settings.
if you completly power off the system for a ram exchange or something else the bios will reset too.
not really important but it's a little boring...

jcool

11-11-2007, 03:57 PM

Yeah well, you just have to make extensive use of the F6 - F7 keys then I guess :D
But the old habit of forgetting everything when being completely disconnected from power really IS annoying.
Can you verify whether this happens if you just disconnect from power? Or only when doing sth else like swapping rams etc

dinos22

11-11-2007, 04:12 PM

scary to think phase reach those temps on watercooling

imagine having 1.9V+ on the quad on this board on Dice or LN2 eek

it will explode to oblivion lol :D

jcool

11-12-2007, 01:55 AM

I thought he only had the cpu watercooled?
For stock cooling w/o additional fan blowing onto PWMs 70C is pretty impressive actually, if you consider his setup. These PWMs are stable at around ~110C anyway, so I wouldn't worry bout it. On the P965 QuadGT I get phase temps of 95-100C (thanks to my B3 Xeon) running 24/7... and this is on water - so they really did improve the digital PWM :up:

JPxM0Dz

11-12-2007, 09:50 AM

Living Review: http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/815-abit-ix38-quadgt-living-review.html

aster

11-12-2007, 10:46 AM

On AB9 QuadGT, phases on water gives 60° when priming Q6600@3800@1.53V ;)

nordien

11-12-2007, 11:36 AM

Results on AIR with a Tuniq Tower and a E6600:

67113

OCZ Ti Alpha @ DDR 1000 @ 4-4-4-15 @ 2.35v
CPU VTT @ 1.6v

3dMark06 gives a 13153 @ these settings.........

67114

With these settings the digital pwm's are about 60 C

I like this board so far !! Can't wait to put a Penryn in.

Ademcg

11-12-2007, 12:59 PM

Any trouble fitting the Tuniq with this board I just orderd it and wanted to make sure :)

nordien

11-12-2007, 01:09 PM

Any trouble fitting the Tuniq with this board I just orderd it and wanted to make sure :)

Fits perfectly, no mods needed. This mobo has tons of clearance around the cpu socket

Ademcg

11-12-2007, 01:46 PM

Thanks for that.....now ordered:up:

Have you had to update to latest bios yet [Ver 11]??
I am looking to put the latest on a USB pen drive in readiness trying to use the HP USB Disk Format Storage tool,......but it states "there are no valid DOS system files at the specified location" but all the bios files (there are files : RUNME; AbitFAE ; awardflash; M704B_11) are present ?? Will it work in any case ?:shrug:

jcool

11-12-2007, 02:18 PM

On AB9 QuadGT, phases on water gives 60° when priming Q6600@3800@1.53V ;)

Not if you're using unmodified mips waterblock... and yes I did tighten the screws properly ;)
It's made that way to prevent the phase chips from breaking but I guess they have overdone it a little... :down:

http://home.arcor.de/partywg2/Pics/quadgtpwm.jpg

Clunk

11-13-2007, 06:47 AM

jcool

11-13-2007, 07:39 AM

Uh-oh. That doesn't sound too good. I guess I'll wait for a new bios then..
I mean, I can do 400 with my B3 and the old QuadGT w/o high Voltage (1,35V mch) perfectly well...

Ace-a-Rue

11-13-2007, 08:45 AM

Ace-a-Rue

11-13-2007, 08:46 AM

Anyone with a quad managed to get stable over 400/410FSB without random BIOS freezes? Does your board need massive amounts of voltage to get stable at 400FSB and below?

This one of mine is really bad. At stock, I enter the BIOS and it freezes and needs a CMOS clear to fix.

I can then go to windows, and do whatever I was doing, restart and the BIOS has frozen again.

A friend of mine has the same problems, no doubt he will be posting soon.

have you done any heatpipe mod work?

i am wondering if this digital PWM is a POS...never like what was on the AB9 QuadGT board..i know it says that it is all improved, which is a lot of bullsh*t in my book.

jcool

11-13-2007, 09:14 AM

ut-oh!...doesn't sound good with the freezes...now...i am seriously considering the Gigabyte X38T board...hmmmmm...darn...it must be the same team that developed the AB9 QuadGT board...it wasn't very good in the beginnning with bios help.

Right... the AB9 QuadGT's original bios was nothing short of virtual BS.
Bios 11 fixed alot and then 12 and 13... still running 13 w/o any problems.

They did improve the digital PWM I guess, but less heat than on the AB9 still doesn't mean it's cool :p:

nordien

11-13-2007, 10:49 AM

Anyone with a quad managed to get stable over 400/410FSB without random BIOS freezes? Does your board need massive amounts of voltage to get stable at 400FSB and below?

This one of mine is really bad. At stock, I enter the BIOS and it freezes and needs a CMOS clear to fix.

I can then go to windows, and do whatever I was doing, restart and the BIOS has frozen again.

A friend of mine has the same problems, no doubt he will be posting soon.

I think there is something wrong with your board. I've playing around for three days now and cannot confirm your problems but i only have a E6600 not a quad. Yesterday i did 8*450 @ ddr 900 @ 4-4-4-10 without problems, the fsb wall on the E6600 is keeping me back, anything over 450 is not stable.

The bios sure isn't finished yet but i only get a freeze when i try oc'ing on the fly (F8) with the wrong settings.

I am getting good pwm temps (60-62) with the E6600

Clunk

11-13-2007, 10:51 AM

have you done any heatpipe mod work?

i am wondering if this digital PWM is a POS...never like what was on the AB9 QuadGT board..i know it says that it is all improved, which is a lot of bullsh*t in my book.

No mate, it is absolutely stock. Normally, I would have taken it off, and replaced with something else, but I didnt have anything that would fit - Being realistinc though, the PWM cooler is flawed, in so much as it really needs a fan to cool it, but unless you go out and buy one, the board will overheat relatively quickly.

I have seen 112c on the PWMs when only using 1.5v, and that was with a 92mm fan directly on the heatsink, and the board was built up out of the case.

I'm returning mine on monday, it has no redeeming features.

Clunk

11-13-2007, 10:54 AM

I think there is something wrong with youyr board. I've playing around for three days now and cannot confirm your problems but i only have a E6600 not a quad. Yesterday i did 8*450 @ ddr 900 @ 4-4-4-10 without problems, the fsb wall on the E6600 is keeping me back, anything over 450 is not stable.

The bios sure isn't finished yet but i only get a freeze when i try oc'ing on the fly (F8) with the wrong settings.

I am getting good pwm temps (60-62) with the E6600

I would have said there is something wrong with it, but supershanks also has one, and his is the same, he also has a quad, but I will let him tell you of his troubles, if he can ever get back online :rolleyes:

If I were to speculate at what is wrong, I would say that the BIOS isnt ready for public consumption, and those PWMs need a better heatsink, or some kind of active cooling included.

Ace-a-Rue

11-13-2007, 11:00 AM

No mate, it is absolutely stock. Normally, I would have taken it off, and replaced with something else, but I didnt have anything that would fit - Being realistinc though, the PWM cooler is flawed, in so much as it really needs a fan to cool it, but unless you go out and buy one, the board will overheat relatively quickly.

I have seen 112c on the PWMs when only using 1.5v, and that was with a 92mm fan directly on the heatsink, and the board was built up out of the case.

I'm returning mine on monday, it has no redeeming features.

what i was talking about for the heatsink is yanking it and removing the TIM pads to replace with Ceramique along with using a bolt/nut, where the plastic push-pins with springs are used, to get better clamping action and therefore, better heat dissapation.

jcool

11-13-2007, 11:05 AM

Or you could try to fit one of the existing waterblocks onto the phase chips. From what I've seen so far, the PWM area is 100% identical to the AB9 QuadGT's. That's what I would try, anyways...

Clunk

11-13-2007, 11:28 AM

what i was talking about for the heatsink is yanking it and removing the TIM pads to replace with Ceramique along with using a bolt/nut, where the plastic push-pins with springs are used, to get better clamping action and therefore, better heat dissapation.

Yep, I had a read of your guide (great stuff by the way :)), and I would definitely do that if I was keeping it, but the BIOS problems are just too much.

Or you could try to fit one of the existing waterblocks onto the phase chips. From what I've seen so far, the PWM area is 100% identical to the AB9 QuadGT's. That's what I would try, anyways...

To be honest, I wouldnt want all that heat in my loop either! :)

jcool

11-13-2007, 11:44 AM

Oh really... that's about 20-30W max für the PWMs. Who cares - some people use dual laings, they heat up the water with more than that :O

Clunk

11-13-2007, 11:55 AM

Oh really... that's about 20-30W max für the PWMs. Who cares - some people use dual laings, they heat up the water with more than that :O

20-30w? maybe at stock and idle, but if they do indeed hit the 80c+ that I've been getting, and there is 5 of them, certainly seems like more than that.

I have dual loops, but why would I want to add pointless heat into the loop? and also, why bother buying waterblocks for a board that doesnt work properly? :D

Ace-a-Rue

11-13-2007, 12:07 PM

lol :D ....

jcool

11-13-2007, 12:31 PM

20-30w? maybe at stock and idle, but if they do indeed hit the 80c+ that I've been getting, and there is 5 of them, certainly seems like more than that.

I have dual loops, but why would I want to add pointless heat into the loop? and also, why bother buying waterblocks for a board that doesnt work properly? :D

So maybe it's 40, but that's not the point here ;)
Better have the heat moved to your rads then having it in your case :)
Anyway, I wouldn't bother buying any new waterblocks... the NB/SB/ram whatever heatpipe doesn't look to be replaced easily, and since the PWMs are the bad guys here it's no problem cooling them and them alone with water.
Especially if you already own a matching block, as lots of IN9-32X and AB9 QuadGT owners do ;)

But still, I am pretty much pissed with Abit now... I wouldn't think they'd drop their C1E functionality with manually adjusted Vid :(

Clunk

11-13-2007, 12:41 PM

So maybe it's 40, but that's not the point here ;)
Better have the heat moved to your rads then having it in your case :)

Agreed :up: All I would say is that the PWMs on the Maximus run very cool, even when priming, so that says to me that the digital PWMs are probably a mistake for this board - just my opinion.

:)

hawtrawkr

11-13-2007, 12:50 PM

anyone know anywhere in states with this board?

pinto

11-13-2007, 03:24 PM

Anyone with a quad managed to get stable over 400/410FSB without random BIOS freezes? Does your board need massive amounts of voltage to get stable at 400FSB and below?

This one of mine is really bad. At stock, I enter the BIOS and it freezes and needs a CMOS clear to fix.

I can then go to windows, and do whatever I was doing, restart and the BIOS has frozen again.

A friend of mine has the same problems, no doubt he will be posting soon.

Me, i'm running the board H24 445X9 on my Q6600 with 1.45v vmch and 1.4v vtt others voltage stock except vcore and vddr of course. Absolutly no problem since 4 days, no crashes or freeze, can play all day long with those settings.
My only problem is that the bios will reset if i put off the power cable (a little annoying...)

Hazzan

11-13-2007, 04:45 PM

Got Today.......Suprise...nice Board I think.........:) :)

http://img.techpowerup.org/071113/IMG_0976080.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/071113/IMG_1039.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/071113/2006.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/071113/sp.jpg

Ready..... to Climb high FSB with new UGURU version :clap: :clap:

http://img.techpowerup.org/071113/uguru976.jpg

seamumc

11-13-2007, 05:27 PM

Nice stuff Hazzan, I think that's the kind of results we were hoping for. But you gotta read Clunks "living review", more like "living nightmare". :D

I was chalking it up to a bad board till Shanks got one and experienced the same issues.

TheSamurai

11-13-2007, 05:37 PM

nice FSB there Hazzan! have you tried it with OCCT yet?

Hazzan

11-13-2007, 10:30 PM

@TheSamurai : not Yet !! later ..............

nordien

11-13-2007, 11:19 PM

@ Hazzan->Got Today.......Suprise...nice Board I think.........:) :)

At last somebody with positive thnings about this board. Did you have any problems like the ones mentioned in this forum ?

I certainly didn't with a E6600.....

Sadhana

11-14-2007, 02:39 AM

@Hazzan: what about the vdroop, bro? Any good improvement compared from his "old" brother: IP35 series?

Johnny Bravo

11-14-2007, 02:54 AM

Hazzan should have mine by the weekend hopefully I'll get a review up shortly after ;)

Ademcg

11-14-2007, 04:38 AM

Clunk

11-14-2007, 06:45 AM

Took delivery of mine this morning, will try to complete build ASAP,....but some worrying comments for sure...lets hope my Silverstone TJ09 keeps the PWMs cool enough (there are two 120mm fans real close to them).

@ Clunk...where did you & Shanks buy your boards from??

To be honest though, If I can get to 3.4-3.6 GHz I will be a happy bunny :up:

I think we both got them from Komplett.

Thing is, I managed 500FSB right out of the box (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=265611), and 457x9 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=266031) (not stable), thats not the problem, it's when you've been using it a while, and the freezing BIOS starts to get a bit much, and also, it requires much more voltage to hit the same overclocks as other boards.

I be interested to see if anyone can get stable over 410FSBx9 with a quad, with relatively sane voltage :)

Personally, I dont believe that it is faulty as such, just badly thought out.

Hazzan

11-14-2007, 08:49 AM

@Johnny Bravo : I ll waiting your result Bro.....:) :)

nordien

11-14-2007, 11:23 AM

After 4 days of tweaking and clocking i have the following results:

67231

The board is rock solid, no freezing, nice reboot after failed oc.
No issues so far.

:up:

Ace-a-Rue

11-14-2007, 04:22 PM

I think we both got them from Komplett.

Thing is, I managed 500FSB right out of the box (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=265611), and 457x9 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=266031) (not stable), thats not the problem, it's when you've been using it a while, and the freezing BIOS starts to get a bit much, and also, it requires much more voltage to hit the same overclocks as other boards.

I be interested to see if anyone can get stable over 410FSBx9 with a quad, with relatively sane voltage :)

Personally, I dont believe that it is faulty as such, just badly thought out.

what do you mean by "not stable"?...are you referring to running benches or just P95 stability?

i think this board is just a walk over from the IP35 Pro as a DDR2 board....SO...getting 4113 Mhz to be stable is going to be a problem under air and possibly water...you really need a DDR3 board to make that Mhz stable for a Q6600, IMO.

Clunk

11-14-2007, 05:06 PM

what do you mean by "not stable"?...are you referring to running benches or just P95 stability?

i think this board is just a walk over from the IP35 Pro as a DDR2 board....SO...getting 4113 Mhz to be stable is going to be a problem under air and possibly water...you really need a DDR3 board to make that Mhz stable for a Q6600, IMO.

The 4113Mhz was quite literally the highest that I could get it to boot at, and get a CPU-Z validation, regardless of voltage - Not complaining about that. The stability issues were after 400FSB. 410 was just probably doable on water, but needed just short of 1.6v, so not great.

Ace-a-Rue

11-14-2007, 05:56 PM

i would like to try this board...IF...it was a DDR3 board...i am ready to upgrade to DDR3 only because i have a little extra money to spend on this upgrade...if i didn't have it, i would stay right where i am now with the "Pro" board....don't you have a gigabyte X38 board?..is it DDR2?

Clunk

11-14-2007, 07:35 PM

It's supershanks (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/311-gigabyte-ga-x38-dq6-blog.html) that has the gigabyte board, it's the DQ6 DDR2. :)

I would fancy a DDR3 board myself, but not until I've got a penryn to go with it :D

TinTin

11-14-2007, 08:24 PM

My test review, I will translate it into English version later, sorry to come late :)

http://bbs.ocqq.com/viewthread.php?tid=16443&extra=page%3D1

Ace-a-Rue

11-14-2007, 09:04 PM

looking forward to your review in english, tintin...

Ace-a-Rue

11-14-2007, 09:04 PM

nordien

11-15-2007, 03:54 AM

I reveived a new bios file from Abit Europe New BIOS file 12b02. I also have the confirmation that the fan mount clips for the pwm's should be included. When i get more info, you will get it to !!!

When you want the bios email me @
nmsystems@chello.nl

The problem with bios freezes is also adressed. This can occur when you press del before the post code 26 (some issue with pressing del before graphics car detection). They promised this will be resolved...

Ademcg

11-15-2007, 04:43 AM

Excellent, a new Beta bios.....Keep us posted...and I want my fan clips too !!

On a side note, I ordered my board from Scan and it came with a 92mm Papst fan in a seperate clear plastic bag, not in the bundle.....but only now has the penny dropped....for the PWM's?

The bundle BTW is pathetically sparce...especially given I am used to the DFI LP series :)

jcool

11-15-2007, 05:04 AM

Just curious, but why does everyone here treat the IX38 QuadGT as if it were the succesor or some clone of the IP35? I think it's more identical to the previous QuadGT, especially the PWM area and bios are 100% identical to my AB9 QuadGT. So I'd say it's the AB9 with a new chipset - therefore no Vdroop issue (IP35) but hot phase chips (--> previous QuadGT) and major problems with initial bios (--> also previous QuadGT)
But knowing how great the old QuadGT finally turned out be, I can't wait till they get bios 12 or 13 out - just hoping they're gonna be a lot quicker this time than they were with the old one...

Hazzan

11-15-2007, 05:27 AM

@nordien : no !! I dont have any problem with that Board but some time Hang on keyboard.....AND SEND ME NEW BIOS to jadyds@hotmail.com

@Sadhana : 0.2 - 0.3 Volt Vdrop :) :)

jcool

11-15-2007, 05:45 AM

I do hope you mean 0,02-0,03 :eek:

Ace-a-Rue

11-15-2007, 06:17 AM

Hazzan

11-15-2007, 06:49 AM

@jcool : yes I mean 00.2 00.3 volt !!!

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 10:10 AM

I just ordered this board today, should I be worried? :D

I also got a E2140 (getting Q9450 Jan)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-6400C4 800MHz Dual Channel Kit x 2. (4x1GB total)

Cannot wait to OC my E2140, hopefully 100% on low volts. Apparently it could be an M0 stepping and clocks really well on low voltage.

I hope this board is as stable and rock as its counterparts.

Just out of interest. Should I be worried about the temp from the PWM's?
I have a TJ07 and the case air flow is very good.

I love new toys and cannot wait to get OC'ing.

nordien

11-15-2007, 10:47 AM

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 11:28 AM

Will my ram clock ok on it?

I think my ram sticks will be Micron D9's.

Never OC an Intel board before so should be interesting :D.

Clunk

11-15-2007, 11:37 AM

The freezing isnt fixed (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/815-abit-ix38-quadgt-living-review-14.html), supershanks BIOS just froze using the new beta BIOS.

Ace-a-Rue

11-15-2007, 12:02 PM

what is his Vdimm setting?

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 12:46 PM

can that be easily fixed?

Is it as good as the p35? everyone was blown away with that board... hence why I got this :/

nordien

11-15-2007, 01:03 PM

The guy form Abit EU said that the freezing has something to with the gpu. When you press del to soon in the boot process (before postcode 26) this can cause a bios freeze. It's known issue that will be resolved in bios 12 final. Working with 12B02, no problems at all, not when oc'ed, not when @ stock.

No improvement on oc though with the new bios.

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 01:18 PM

how are the raid drivers/performance? I have 2 rapters I want to raid.

After reading a lot of info I am really worried that this board will just end up getting RMA'd.

nordien

11-15-2007, 01:22 PM

how are the raid drivers/performance? I have 2 rapters I want to raid.

After reading a lot of info I am really worried that this board will just end up getting RMA'd.

I dont know how raid will work on this board but with two raptors you will do just fine. I have only one. Again whthink about RMA, try the board first and then make up your mind. If you RMA you will get another IX38......

Im happy with this board. Better then my AW9D-Max which was very good !

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 01:28 PM

I will be defiantly putting it through its paces :D.

Apparently there is a new BIOS out 12b02. do you have it/know where I can d/l it.

Thanks for answering my questions :).

nordien

11-15-2007, 01:31 PM

I will be defiantly putting it through its paces :D.

Apparently there is a new BIOS out 12b02. do you have it/know where I can d/l it.

Thanks for answering my questions :).

PM me and you will get IT. But flashing is at your own Risk.......:) after the review that Clunk made i was getting worried to but doing 490*7 @ 3430 mhz with DDR980 @ 4-4-4-15 i'm thinking that everything will be allright. Also waiting for a Q9450 !

nmsystems@chello.nl

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 01:44 PM

Sent :)

I hope the Q9450 gets 4GHz without to much effort and voltage.

I'm sure this IX38 will be rock stable for its arrival.

Supershanks

11-15-2007, 03:21 PM

Re Raid See item 7 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/861-abit-ix38-quad-gt-living-review-ii.html)

vcore is 1.55v :ROTF: with a Q6600 Go that can do 3.6k on 1.40v on gigabyte x38 & p5k.

Edit:
Multimeter Results (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3720-post22.html)

jcool

11-15-2007, 04:22 PM

the IP35 boards were the successor to the P965 chipset which includes your AB9 QuadGT...i had that board and it had droop too...if you didn't have droop on your AB9 QuadGT feel very, very lucky because the droop is part of intel's architecturer board design.

Of coure it droops a bit, but thats okay as you say, it's even Intel spec. Mine droops aboput 0,03V with my B3 Quad which is perfectly fine - on IP35 this would be at least 0,08..
And that was my point, the IX38 doesn't droop that much because it is actually the succesor of the P965 QuadGT, not the IP35 ;)
Gonna have one here for testing by Monday next week, I sure hope they keep working on these bios files...

St4vr0s

11-15-2007, 05:00 PM

I've been benching my X38 Quad GT since Saturday with a QX9650. Initially all looked fantastic! 450FSB x9 multi giving me 4.05Ghz at stock volts with ease. However when benched things seemed a little slow to say the least.

Comparing it to a QX6850 in either IP35 Pro or Striker Extreme it was at least 1000 points short in 3dMark 06 CPU test and at 18 seconds in SuperPI at 1m places I thought something was adrift :o

It turned out the bios and windows was showing the system at x9 multi but it was actully locked at x6.

Anyhow I got the latest Beta Bios from Abit which is now installed and under testing. I'll update the thread with more news soon.

DangeR!

11-15-2007, 05:35 PM

keep us posted.

Ace-a-Rue

11-15-2007, 05:41 PM

Of coure it droops a bit, but thats okay as you say, it's even Intel spec. Mine droops aboput 0,03V with my B3 Quad which is perfectly fine

- on IP35 this would be at least 0,08..

my AB9 QuadGT drooped more than yours...you should feel very lucky for so little droop...my QuadGT (965) was about 0.08v under P95 load with about 0.04v in idle...my IP35 Pro is the same.

And that was my point, the IX38 doesn't droop that much because it is actually the succesor of the P965 QuadGT, not the IP35 ;)
Gonna have one here for testing by Monday next week, I sure hope they keep working on these bios files...

now, that is a lot of BS you just put out....image redacted from anandtech website.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2993

strange|ife

11-15-2007, 08:06 PM

bummer these x38's arent as killer as we hoped.

nordien

11-16-2007, 01:49 AM

I am testing the 12B02 beta bios. While i didn't get a higher fsb overclock on my E6600 i did see the vcore going down from 1.44v to 1.41v, so far 6 hours prime stable. With the 11 bios it would fail prime..

4*490 = 3430 mhz @ 1.41v

jcool

11-16-2007, 02:54 AM

now, that is a lot of BS you just put out....image redacted from anandtech website.

Oh c'mon I'm not that stupid :shakes:
'course I know that officially, the X38 replaces the P35. I was just speaking in terms of layout, power circuitery, Bios,.. and all the other things the "old" and "new" QuadGT have in common.
Sorry to hear your AB9 QuadGT had that much droop though, I know quite a few people who didn't have more droop than 0,04 - so maybe yours was faulty...

cheers

Ace-a-Rue

11-16-2007, 07:16 PM

never said you were stupid;)...you just needed to be more specific in your post...you made it sound like you were talking authoritatively from a standpoint of chipset to chipset.

AND...i knew a few people who had a large (drop) droop on the AB9 QuadGT doing a P95 episode..idle was fine with 0.04v

TinTin

11-16-2007, 08:33 PM

BIOS Main Menu
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9021/biosmainyg0.jpg

Vcore and Vcore Offset
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9244/vcorels2.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5695/vcoreoffsethc9.jpg

CPU VTT Voltage
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6107/cpuvttwr4.jpg

ICHIO Voltage
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9528/ichioan9.jpg

ICH Voltage
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4979/ichvoltagetr4.jpg

MCH Voltage
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3347/mchvoltagedc3.jpg

Vdimm
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9782/vdimmax9.jpg

uGuru main
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7118/gurumainpi3.jpg

Monitoring
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4817/monitorxs2.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6438/fanmonitorjf4.jpg

TinTin

11-16-2007, 08:56 PM

Test Setup:
CPU: E6850
RAM: Crucial Ballistix DDR1066 1G X 2
Display Card: Sapphire X800GTO2
PSU: Tagan TG530U15

Note: Memset is not working, it shows values but you can't change.

(1) Vdroop/Vdrop Test:

BIOS: 1.35V
Idle (window): 1.35V
Full (window): 1.34V

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8460/vdroopidlepw7.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4001/vdroopfullxo1.jpg

(2) 400 X 9, 4;5 DDR1000, PL=5
Sandra Bandwidth: 7838/7837MB/s
Superpi 32M: 13mins.41.719s
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4079/400x9pl5sandra7838pt0.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9307/400x9pl5supepi32m13m417do2.jpg

(3) 450 X 8, 4:5 DDR1125, PL=5
Sandra: 8745/8780 MB/s
Superpi32M: 13mins.28.343s
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4158/450x8pl5sandra8763pf7.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8259/450x8pl5supepi32m13m283di3.jpg

(4) 500 X 7, DDR1200 test
11mins ortho Blend Test passed
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5796/500x7ddr1200ortho11minqh8.jpg

(5) 500 X 8, DDR1200 Test:
Sandra Bandwidth: 9240/9283 MB/s
Superpi32M: 12mins.24.531s
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5632/500x8sandra9262zp3.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7767/500x8supepi32m12m24531sns6.jpg

(6) 520 X 7, DDR1250 Test:
Sandra Bandwidth: 9394/9395 MB/s
Superpi32M: 13mins15.672s
520X7 ORTHO Blend Test 9 mins. passed
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8711/520x7sandra9395od5.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2016/520x7supepi32m13m15672sdi1.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/245/520x7orthoddr1250wf3.jpg

(7) clumb to 530FSB, but failed to pass ortho, it is a bit lower than expected coz my CPU's FSB can go to around 545MHz in air.
Sandra bandwidth: 9613/9619 MB/s
Superpi 1M: 13.641s
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4665/530x7sandra9616xz4.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9117/530x7superpi1mvg3.jpg

PROS:
(1) Vdroop/Vdrop is minimal
(2) Digital PWM is not as hot as previous model (only tested with a Dual Core CPU)
(3) Price is cheaper than other X38 MBs e.g. P5E series, IX38 QuadGT is at HK$1999.
(4) The heatpipe heatsinks do the right job, the temperature is not very hot even at high voltages
(5) It runs as fast as Top P35 models, e.g. P5K-P, DFI P35-T2R and faster than Maxmius Formula, because of the Performance Level it adopted automatically.

CONS:
(1) just like P5E, maximus formula series, 4:5 divider is not very good at higher FSB.
(2) lack of control of performance level in BIOS, it is important coz it may be too tight by AUTO and affecting the limit of FSB of chipset. And memset is not supported at this moment.
(3) The chipsets control (memory subtimings) is not as many as other models, coz lack of this, it affects the overclocking of RAMs.
(4) FSB limit is not as high as Maxmius Formula, may be caused by CONS(2)
(5) BIOS needs update coz some subtimings, e.g. Tras,... are wrong after enter window checked by CPUZ

ante_ante

11-16-2007, 11:37 PM

I have sold my GB X38 and ordered this Abit IX38 board. Have always liked Abit.
The board should arrive on monday or tuesday.
Waiting for penry so right now i´m gonna use my Q6600 G0 on water with a pair of Crucial Ballistix PC8500 memorys. Best way to update bios, thrue dos or flashmenu?

Supershanks

11-17-2007, 01:38 AM

follow ace's guide re flashing from floppy or usb.

be interested to see how your q6600 go runs. Haven't seen one run to it's potential yet, Needs a ridiculous amount of vcore.

luck:0

Pillo-kun

11-17-2007, 02:02 AM

You know, that up to the pics of 400x9 i thought that my Ab9 quad gt can do this too, then i saw the 450x9 but mems at 560 and i thought that ok so the mems are the only thing that oc better on this board. Cus its very hard for me to oc higher than 520, well that was with my old ballistix pc6400 sticks that have died. have new stick now :) But then i saw all the other pics and then i was sold such a improvment over the old quad gt board. I really like how good it can clock mems.

shawn1998

11-17-2007, 04:06 AM

Any word on what might fit onto the northbridge? I really want to try this board out, but I would have to mount it upside down (Lian-Li V2000) and would need to replace the nb heatsink. Any ideas?

Shawn

aiya

11-17-2007, 12:19 PM

thanks for the results TinTin :up:

i'm still waiting for someone to test a quad on it before i bite :)

Scope666

11-17-2007, 05:56 PM

thanks for the results TinTin :up:

i'm still waiting for someone to test a quad on it before i bite :)

Anyone seen the IX38 in the States yet? I keep checking Newegg to see if it's available. I even submitted a request for them to stock it (just in case they weren't planning on it)

I would like to pull the trigger on an X38 board, but my experience with the Asus Maximus was HORRIBLE. It never wanted to reboot; I always had to flip the PS switch. It also false tested SIX sticks of RAM as bad in Memtest, that were in fact good sticks, etc.

I'm hoping that because Abit didn't rush the board out like Asus and GB, maybe it will be better.

I noticed the MSI Platinum is out now, wonder how that one is...

Ace-a-Rue

11-17-2007, 06:24 PM

Test Setup:
CPU: E6850
RAM: Crucial Ballistix DDR1066 1G X 2
Display Card: Sapphire X800GTO2
PSU: Tagan TG530U15

Note: Memset is not working, it shows values but you can't change.

(1) Vdroop/Vdrop Test:

BIOS: 1.35V
Idle (window): 1.35V
Full (window): 1.34V

PROS:
(1) Vdroop/Vdrop is minimal
(2) Digital PWM is not as hot as previous model (only tested with a Dual Core CPU)
(3) Price is cheaper than other X38 MBs e.g. P5E series, IX38 QuadGT is at HK$1999.
(4) The heatpipe heatsinks do the right job, the temperature is not very hot even at high voltages
(5) It runs as fast as Top P35 models, e.g. P5K-P, DFI P35-T2R and faster than Maxmius Formula, because of the Performance Level it adopted automatically.

CONS:
(1) just like P5E, maximus formula series, 4:5 divider is not very good at higher FSB.
(2) lack of control of performance level in BIOS, it is important coz it may be too tight by AUTO and affecting the limit of FSB of chipset. And memset is not supported at this moment.
(3) The chipsets control (memory subtimings) is not as many as other models, coz lack of this, it affects the overclocking of RAMs.
(4) FSB limit is not as high as Maxmius Formula, may be caused by CONS(2)
(5) BIOS needs update coz some subtimings, e.g. Tras,... are wrong after enter window checked by CPUZ

did you verify the Vdrop/Vdroop by DMM meter?

aiya

11-17-2007, 06:55 PM

Anyone seen the IX38 in the States yet? I keep checking Newegg to see if it's available. I even submitted a request for them to stock it (just in case they weren't planning on it)

I would like to pull the trigger on an X38 board, but my experience with the Asus Maximus was HORRIBLE. It never wanted to reboot; I always had to flip the PS switch. It also false tested SIX sticks of RAM as bad in Memtest, that were in fact good sticks, etc.

I'm hoping that because Abit didn't rush the board out like Asus and GB, maybe it will be better.

I noticed the MSI Platinum is out now, wonder how that one is...

the only place i've seen it in the states is at mwave @ $225.75:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA24444

i've bought stuff from them before, never had a problem. they're located in SoCal btw.

Moto450

11-17-2007, 07:53 PM

I have bought a lot of stuff from mwave and they have all ways been fast on shipping and i have never had a problem with them.

Scope666

11-17-2007, 08:04 PM

I have bought a lot of stuff from mwave and they have all ways been fast on shipping and i have never had a problem with them.

I JUST noticed they have them at ClubIT also:

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA4841008#

What do you think, should I try it? You guys happy so far?

shawn1998

11-17-2007, 08:35 PM

And still nothing about the northbridge. Anyone????

situman

11-17-2007, 09:42 PM

Interested but will wait for new bios update first. No need to buy it with a crappy bios then cry about it.

nordien

11-18-2007, 01:29 AM

:clap: I am still happy with it. Running 7*490 @ 3430 mhz with 1.42v DDR980 4-4-4-15 @ 2.45v. The board is rock solid. No problems whatsoever.

Running on 12B02 bios. I think this board needs a very good bios that can handle quadcores. The only problems that are mentioned on the forums is that you need lots of vcore for overclocking q6600 G0's.

For all DualCore users this board is already very good. See Hazzan on this thread, see TinTin.......

Supershanks

11-18-2007, 01:45 AM

i'm still waiting for someone to test a quad on it before i bite
After a very tacky start, am starting to make headway. Tweaking GTLref & VTT let me reduce vcore from levels Clunk, then myself had started from.
8Hrs & running:D
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc311/Supershanks/9x40014135vc_8HrPrime.jpg

Verified MM readings
Bottom Pics in here vdroop=.04v (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3897-post28.html)

nordien

11-18-2007, 03:43 AM

After a very tacky start, am starting to make headway. Tweaking GTLref & VTT let me reduce vcore from levels Clunk, then myself had started from.
8Hrs & running:D
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc311/Supershanks/9x40014135vc_8HrPrime.jpg

Bottom Pics in here vdroop=.04v (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3897-post28.html)

How about PWM temps @ 9*400 ?

Ademcg

11-18-2007, 06:46 AM

ok, so my build is up and running, with suprisingly few problems, but one or two minor frustrations.

Q6600 Go
4GB Crucial Ballistix 8500 [4 X 1GB]
Gigabyte 8800GT 512 MB
Enermax Galaxy 850W
Silverstone TJ09 case
Vista Ultimate 64 bit

Firstly, the bios and CMOS needs clearing when ever the power to the PSU is unhooked for any length of time..I hope this changes:down:

Secondly, I have had the Bios freeze, just the once, but Guru in windows hangs when ever I try to shut it down, to the point where I have stopped it loading up in the start up plus the temps are Way , way off !!:eek:

I am still on the bios "as shipped", which is something else I need a little help with.

so, ok, I am at 3GHz, gently pushing the FSB, I have manually set the timings of the 4GB of crucial Ballistix, but I am very confused by what CPUz is reporting, the tRAS I set in bios was 18, however when CPUZ loads it reports it as 24 ?:shakes:

I am still finding my way with this Intel stuff...I wonder if I have something selected I shouldn't have ??? Advice Please !!!!!!:yepp:

Some pics

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/Nov07054.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/Nov07055.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/Nov07056.jpg

Still can't work the USB pen drive as a boot drive...i was made using my other PC Win XP Pro should I restart in Vista 64 bit ?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/Nov07057.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/Nov07058.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/27GHz555settras18_shows24.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/CPUzBiosMemat3GHz.jpg

So, a few things I would really like help on:

I would love to flash the bios....USB pen being a bit of a git..will try once more to follow Ace's method.

Is the memory showing different in CPUz a problem ?
something I should change (from screen shots above)??

Or should I just crack on with the FSB pushing ??

Finally, I have run Futuremark 2006 and I get a low score of 7694:rofl: :down: :shrug:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/30GHz3D06.jpg

I should be hitting at least 10K ??

HElp !!
Any advice / comments most welcome :cool:

Ace-a-Rue

11-18-2007, 07:23 AM

ok, so my build is up and running, with suprisingly few problems, but one or two minor frustrations.

Q6600 Go
4GB Crucial Ballistix 8500 [4 X 1GB]
Gigabyte 8800GT 512 MB
Enermax Galaxy 850W
Silverstone TJ09 case
Vista Ultimate 64 bit

Firstly, the bios and CMOS needs clearing when ever the power to the PSU is unhooked for any length of time..I hope this changes:down:

Secondly, I have had the Bios freeze, just the once, but Guru in windows hangs when ever I try to shut it down, to the point where I have stopped it loading up in the start up plus the temps are Way , way off !!:eek:

I am still on the bios "as shipped", which is something else I need a little help with.

so, ok, I am at 3GHz, gently pushing the FSB, I have manually set the timings of the 4GB of crucial Ballistix, but I am very confused by what CPUz is reporting, the tRAS I set in bios was 18, however when CPUZ loads it reports it as 24 ?:shakes:

I am still finding my way with this Intel stuff...I wonder if I have something selected I shouldn't have ??? Advice Please !!!!!!:yepp:

........

Still can't work the USB pen drive as a boot drive...i was made using my other PC Win XP Pro should I restart in Vista 64 bit ?

So, a few things I would really like help on:

I would love to flash the bios....USB pen being a bit of a git..will try once more to follow Ace's method.

Is the memory showing different in CPUz a problem ?
something I should change (from screen shots above)??

Or should I just crack on with the FSB pushing ??

Finally, I have run Futuremark 2006 and I get a low score of 7694:rofl: :down: :shrug:

I should be hitting at least 10K ??

HElp !!
Any advice / comments most welcome :cool:

my 1st impression: you are overdoing it with Vcore for 2.7Ghz...you shouldn't be above 1.35-1.40v for a P95 episode.

2nd: Vista is not friendly to video games or benching...once SP1 comes out, it should improve that situation.

3rd: at what point are you getting a bios freeze?...i would take your memory down to 2-Gigs for a while or maybe down to one stick to see if that keeps the freezing situaion from happening again.

4th: Uguru might have problems with vista 64 so you need to install XP to see what affect that has on the whole system.

5th: the tRAS setting is obviously a quirk with this board when you have it manually set for a lower number...possibly a bios fault...it could also be a problem utilizing all four dimm slots...try the above soultion with using less dimm's.

Ademcg

11-18-2007, 07:38 AM

my 1st impression: you are overdoing it with Vcore for 2.7Ghz...you shouldn't be above 1.35-1.40v for a P95 episode.

2nd: Vista is not friendly to video games or benching...once SP1 comes out, it should improve that situation.

3rd: at what point are you getting a bios freeze?...i would take your memory down to 2-Gigs for a while or maybe down to one stick to see if that keeps the freezing situaion from happening again.

4th: Uguru might have problems with vista 64 so you need to install XP to see what affect that has on the whole system.

5th: the tRAS setting is obviously a quirk with this board when you have it manually set for a lower number...possibly a bios fault...it could also be a problem utilizing all four dimm slots...try the above soultion with using less dimm's.

Hi Ace, thanks for taking the time to reply...much appreciated.

ok.
1.) I haven't tweaked the vcore, it booted up like this...I thought I was on stock volts....I think there is a large difference to what is showing in the Bios screen and what progs like CPUz shows Also uGURU was way out with Temps and voltages.

2.) Ahh..lower than expected 3d 06 score purely down to Vista ?
ouch.

3.) The point I had a freeze in the Bios was after I increased the FSB from the stock to 282 MHz, it then frozen and I had to Clear CMOS, the full way (i.e. remove power, change jumper, remove battery, remove ATX power cables from Mobo, wait 60 seconds, replace ATX power cables, replace battery, change jumper then power up)

4.) I have a copy of XP Pro but its runing on a system already, not sure I want the mess of adding it to this one too.

5.) Could this be a bios issue ? I will try removing the extra 2 dimms and see what difference it makes.

Once again, thanks for the help :up: it can get annoying when you are in a room with £1200 worth of componentry not doing what you ask :yepp:

Ace-a-Rue

11-18-2007, 08:05 AM

on the increase in FSB generating a freeze within the bios, i would increase vcore first (plus other associated voltages), save and then come back into the bios for FSB adjustment.

now that you mention the disparity between what cpuz reports as vcore and what is set in the bios reminds me of hearing problems with cpuz reporting accurately when it comes to vcore and vista 64...do you have a 32 bit vista to install?

you can install XP on this machine to be a dual boot without having to register it...i think MS gives you 30 days to validate it..right?...just something to do to get a comparison between the two OS's.

one thing about putting in xp after vista is installed might require you to do a repair on vista 64...usually, if you install xp first and then vista 2nd, you will have an option to dual boot.

Supershanks

11-18-2007, 08:27 AM

How about PWM temps @ 9*400 ? 9x400 12HR Prime Stable (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3914-post30.html)

vpw

11-18-2007, 08:35 AM

Ace-a-Rue

11-18-2007, 08:39 AM

9x400 12HR Prime Stable (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3914-post30.html)

is that 0.03 drop at idle or under load?

my pro board has a 0.04v drop in idle and droops another 0.04v to 0.05v under P95 load...total = 0.08v to 0.09v in a P95 load condition.

Supershanks

11-18-2007, 09:31 AM

As per Pics:D
Load = 1.407v
Idle= =1.437v
Droop = 0.030v

century child

11-18-2007, 09:39 AM

Just got mine today...
The board doesnt come with any screws n stuff to mount it which is strange cos it should be std on any board and since I dont have a spare set...I'll have to get some tomorrow.
It also doesnt come with the retention clips that according to the manual is supposed to be included....
I guess Abit sort of rushed the release of this board...hopefully my local distributor can provide me with the missing stuff...

Is this your first build? Mainboards don't ever come with mounting hardware. That is alwas included with your case. You reuse the mounting screws and standoffs after chaning boards. Just make sure the standoffs match the positions of the holes in the new board because they sometimes differ from one another.

Ace-a-Rue

11-18-2007, 10:17 AM

As per Pics:D
Load = 1.407v
Idle= =1.437v
Droop = 0.030v

not bad at all...BUT...does it get worse as you go higher on the vcore?

Supershanks

11-18-2007, 11:19 AM

does it get worse as you go higher on the vcore?Lol let you know when i get there, it generally does but :shrug:

Ademcg

11-18-2007, 12:39 PM

SuperShanks,
just read your living review and this took my eye:

5) Driver installation. I was somewhat suprised when The Abit CD kicked off automatically updating virtually every driver. This was particularly suprising as my installation was already X38. It was particularly frustrating to see my install totally screwed , to the point that I reloaded my Acronis backup image, something I've done several times in the course of the last two days.

I too installed all the drivers from the Abit CD supplied, looking at the info in nvidia drivers, it is n't showing me x16 in my PCI-E slot 1...this is where I put my single 8800GT, it shows PcI Express Bus x0.....shouldn't it be X16 ??

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/currentGTbiosandDriverinfo.jpg

..may this explain my very poor Futuremark 3d06 score of 7694 :eek: :rofl: :down:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/30GHz3D06.jpg

Oh and Ace...I took the 2 dimms out and no real difference...just for the record.

Seriously starting to annoy me.:horse:

Supershanks

11-18-2007, 01:46 PM

Not sure use cpu-z it's easy to see pci-e channels use the mainboard tab.

Ademcg

11-18-2007, 01:53 PM

I have just gone back to the latest nvidia drivers, It now does show the X16 Pci-e bus..however when I run 3dMark06 I get a black screen - no images, not really sure if it is carrying out the benchie or has hung, will give it a few minutes and see.
Now running on the beta 12 bios btw...not a lot seems to have changed.
Christ, its becoming painful.

Shalamay

11-18-2007, 04:45 PM

Hey, I just ordered this from clubit and I have a Q6600 GO. What is the best bios to use for a high overclock (I'm on phase)? Thank you.

Budwise

11-18-2007, 08:24 PM

how does this board compare to the IP35 Pro? Is it a better choice?

ante_ante

11-18-2007, 10:58 PM

Will flash m board today when it arrives. I will follow ace guide with flashing bios. Flashmenu works but feels a bit scary, so i going for flash in dos.
Is this parameters correct? /e /py /sn /wb /cd /cp /cc /cks ??

vpw

11-18-2007, 11:09 PM

Is this your first build? Mainboards don't ever come with mounting hardware. That is alwas included with your case. You reuse the mounting screws and standoffs after chaning boards. Just make sure the standoffs match the positions of the holes in the new board because they sometimes differ from one another.

yeah i forgot abt it, cos this is only my 3rd build ever, my last one was more than 4 yrs ago.
The mounting hardware doesnt really concern me, however the supposedly included fan retainer for PWN cooler is missing. They even have a pic of it in the manual lol...
anyways I contacted our local distributor I hope they can provide me with the retainers...
Of course main concern is bios, hopefully they'll release a fix soon....

Booj

11-19-2007, 02:59 AM

The Abit distributor in Australia have these in stock from today. Nice price too for an X38 board :cool:

Supershanks

11-19-2007, 04:39 AM

Ademcg

11-19-2007, 04:43 AM

I flashed from my usb drive the other day, using ace's guide:up:
Flashed to12 BTA after renaming file to .BIN. Despite editing the name in runme.bat wouldn't play, so I manually flashed using Ace's
Which worked fine, thanks Ace:D

Luck:)

Seconded, Ace's guide is excellent, also now running 12 Beta bios.

Looking at my problems, I am thinking of turning my back on Vista and installing XP Pro.

But how can a new release mobo not work with an OS that has been on the market for over a year (Vista Ultimate 64 ) ??
Not good enough Abit, must do better !! :down:

SuperShanks....talk to me as a fellow life long Liverpool fan who actually met Shanks in person :cool: If I were to RMA this board, what would you suggest I got in its place ?? P35 product or a different X38 mobo ??

Ace-a-Rue

11-19-2007, 06:42 AM

Ace-a-Rue

11-19-2007, 06:54 AM

Seconded, Ac'e guide is excellent, also now running 12 Beta bios.

Looking at my problems, I am thinking of turning my back on Vista and installing XP Pro.

But how can a new release mobo not work with an OS that has been on the market for over a year (Vista Ultimate 64 ) ??
Not good enough Abit, must do better !! :down:

SuperShanks....talk to me as a fellow life long Liverpool fan who actually met Shanks in person :cool: If I were to RMA this board, what would you suggest I got in its place ?? P35 product or a different X38 mobo ??

thanks for the thumbs :up:;)

you can install XP and then run setup for vista from DOS and just pick another partition on your drive to put in vista...i always break my drive up into 2 or 3 sections just so i can put in an extra OS.

Supershanks

11-19-2007, 09:14 AM

@Ace

glad it worked....i put in the manual way for just in case's like you had yep i appreciated that, did that as it was quicker than troubleshooting why the bat files didn't work. It's only the run.me that has the bios target file that needs changing ??, which i did.:shrug:

@Ademcg

SuperShanks....talk to me as a fellow life long Liverpool fan who actually met Shanks in person OMG Respect:D

Depends entirely what your looking for. Having got over the high vcore issue i'm reasonably happy, as i 've shown there are a few niggles. Only major item for me is the Drive detection issuer i mentioned. Have seen it recur today, whilst i'm testing my drives & rebuilding raid arrays.

If you want a solid mobo built like a volvo, which oces well then Gigabyte,

The Abit has a more feature rich bios. Guru is great for changing voltages on the fly, is great, used it to tune my gtlref. It's more boy racer i think.

To be honest I haven't been able to decide yet, need to play a bit more on the abit to see what i can get.

P35 wise Abit IP35-Pro or the DFI LP UT P35-T2R would probably be my choice, but haviung had neither , there are other pps with 1st hand experience.

luck:)

Ace-a-Rue

11-19-2007, 11:25 AM

supershanks: did you type in after the "C:" prompt the syntax: RUNME.BAT to get the abitfae.bat to run?...that's about the only thing i can think of for the auto program to not work.

Supershanks

11-19-2007, 12:01 PM

id you type in after the "C:" prompt the syntax: RUNME.BAT to get the abitfae.bat to run?
Yep:)

ante_ante

11-19-2007, 12:14 PM

Ademcg

11-19-2007, 12:44 PM

I have now installed my new fresh Quad GT. Feels really good right now :)
I switched from my GB X38 DQ6 without reinstall vista for the moment. Will do a fresh install later this weekend. The only problem i have now when i launch Uguru it shows nothing. Only the general tab. Is it a Vista X64 compability problem? Will also flash bios soon !!

UGURU or at least mine doesn't seem to like Vista Ultimate 64..it would lock every time, so I dissabled it from start up, plus the temps were way off.

strange|ife

11-19-2007, 12:51 PM

uguru in 64 vista is bugged. It reads my temps usually fine, sometimes not at all. Other times i get a BSOD with uguru in the error dump, although changing voltages/fsb works fine, just when your done turn it off, sucks to have a uguru bsod during gaming.

hmm hopefulyl this board will shape up with some bios updates Or a revision, looks pretty good so far, but not as solid as ip35 pro out the gate. Will be keeping an eye on it, i def want to get something with pcie2.0 when the new 9 series cards come out though.

Supershanks

11-19-2007, 01:31 PM

Cpu temp is way off, about 8~10C below core centre, but the voltages vcore , vdimm & vtt that i measured with mm proved guru voltages suprisingly accurate. As i said the OC panel is great in saving time rebooting while tuning.

Moving mobo with the same chipset shouldn't require a fresh install, just a change of things like sound & mobo utilities

strange|ife

11-19-2007, 01:58 PM

ya the cpu temp reading is always off in guru by at least 3-5c or more. Makes ya wonder about the pwm sensor, i usually had 5c to it. But yes voltages are very close, as tested with my dmm for vdimm on my p35 board. memory droop on my ip35, i have to give my 4gb 2.125 to be stable, with droop its about 2.1, and 2.085 under hevy load

Ademcg

11-19-2007, 03:15 PM

Has anyone managed to solve the whole "no boot after idle for a few hours" ?

I had power plug in PSU all night and today while at work, come to boot it up and no boot, had to clear CMOS.

Supershanks

11-19-2007, 03:22 PM

no boot after idle for a few hours" ?No not heard of that one:)

Edit:

i have to give my 4gb 2.125 to be stable, with droop its about 2.1, and 2.085 under heavy load Didn't find that there was actaully an increase on load(running large ffts inm prime) My crucial had been att 2.2v load rose to 2.24v idle was MUltimeter Measurments (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3720-post22.html) I'm running at 1000 at 2.175v as a consequence which is fine.(12hr stable)

Ademcg

11-19-2007, 03:29 PM

Add it to the growing list :/

Supershanks

11-19-2007, 03:42 PM

Well in fairness my list has been shrinking:)

Edit:
Serves me right for saying that think one of my 4x80gb drives has died, building raid was juast copying image to raid5 matrix stripe.

But not all bad news (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3996-post36.html):D Posted at 500 but no xp.(yet Muhahah)
luck:)

ante_ante

11-19-2007, 09:37 PM

Does the Cpu Core Voltage Offset improve overclocking?

nordien

11-19-2007, 10:58 PM

I sent an email to Abit EU again yesterday about the issues i've seen around all the usual forums. There seems to be a FSB wall for dualcores on this mobo @ around 491 fsb. Supershanks had it with a q6600 G0 and i have the same problem with a very good E6600 that did 515 fsb on a P5B of a friend.

Also i have problems getting the memory stable @ DDR1100 and above which should be possible with my OCZ Ti Alpa VX (PC8000@4-4-4-15 stock). I mentioned the problems people where having with quad core overclocking. All problems will be forwarded to Taiwan and he assured me they are very happy with good feedback and it will be used. Most of these problems can be solved by a "killer" bios !

I think there are memory controller issues in bios 11 and 12B02. He will send me a new beta and/or final when they finish it. Also he is going to send me mounting clips whenever they get them from Taiwan.........

Stay tuned for more news !

Supershanks

11-20-2007, 02:36 AM

Does the Cpu Core Voltage Offset improve overclocking? I wondered that b4 i got my board when i saw the 1st bios scree. Itt's the onlly extra bios option to the p35- pro. Sadly it doed rock all , just giving you extra vcore addition. eg

cpu core voltage ....= 1.400v (max = 1.65v)

DangeR!

11-20-2007, 03:39 AM

Ace-a-Rue

11-20-2007, 04:42 AM

welcome, my friend!:)

Hazzan

11-20-2007, 07:37 AM

@Ace-a-Rue : why you not pick up that board ACE ? I see you have many improfment with board like IP35Pro

DangeR!

11-20-2007, 10:14 AM

XP and drivers are installed (Vista64 will be at a later date).

Now I need to find a good O/C guide.... only ever O/C AMD before. I want to do some reading before I get into it.

Ace-a-Rue

11-20-2007, 10:22 AM

@Ace-a-Rue : why you not pick up that board ACE ? I see you have many improfment with board like IP35Pro

you know, i am just not convinced this is the board to buy...i really want to upgrade to DDR3 and i was disappointed that abit will not release a DDR3 board until the X48 comes out.

Bingo13 told me this board is fast but it cannot be pushed hard before breaking down.

now, i am in a dilemma;)...i want to buy a new DDR3 board along with buying a QX9650, so i am thinking about giving gigabyte X38T board (DDR3) a try...i know, heresy!:D

DangeR!

11-20-2007, 11:43 AM

My first results :D.

My pc booted with CPU volts at 1.21 (or there abouts) so when I bumped my CPU higer I couldn't boot. From reading many E2140 threads 1.3v's is fine, so I upped it to that.

When I tryed superPI I couldn't get it to run on the other core so i uped the vcore again to 1.3150 and that didnt work.

So I did a search on the error and found that it was due to trying to run the superPI twice from the same folder :D.... oops.

Copyed the folder and deleted all the data in superPI folder except superPI.exe and they both ran fine.

Pressed ok on one of the tests before I realised it gets rid of the time/section.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1982/52864833fq5.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=52864833fq5.jpg)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1561/56523575gi8.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56523575gi8.jpg)

I did SuperPI just as a starting block and a quick test. I will see if 3.2GHz works at that voltage and the SuperPI it.

Hopefully it will pass and then I will move onto Othros (spelling?) and run that for 12hours or so (fingers crossed).

Then I will work on lowering the vCore.

Remember, its just a starting block and I was surfing while I was testing.

Question: Is one core faster tan the other; shouldn't they be almost equal in time?

Heidfirst

11-20-2007, 01:25 PM

you know, i am just not convinced this is the board to buy...i really want to upgrade to DDR3 and i was disappointed that abit will not release a DDR3 board until the X48 comes out.
I though that there was now going to be a DDR3 IX38 QuadGT as well?
At any rate I can't see any advantage to me switching to the IX38 QuadGT either atm as I don't run Crossfire.

nordien

11-21-2007, 08:40 AM

I picked up a set of Kingston PC2 9600 2GB. @ DDR1200 i get random reboots. Now im running them @ DDR1000 4-4-4-18 stable. Anyone an idea why they cant do DDR1200. Default voltage is 2.35v !???

Hazzan

11-21-2007, 09:18 AM

@nordien : 600 5-5-5-15 vdim 2.35volt all set in bios.....maybe you can see with my setting in UGURU monitor :) :) :)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8553/600yx6.jpg

nordien

11-21-2007, 09:35 AM

@nordien : 600 5-5-5-15 vdim 2.35volt all set in bios.....maybe you can see with my setting in UGURU monitor :) :) :)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8553/600yx6.jpg

To bad mine dont do that. They are week 33 2007 with new look heatspreaders. When i try to boot @ DDR600 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.35 Windows XP cannot boot completely. My OCZ Ti Alpha Cannot do more than DDR1050 @ 4-4-4-15/5-5-5-15 with this IX38 Quad. I think it is a bios issue (hope).

I flashed back to Bios 11. No results. My settings are:

vdimm 2.3750
vcore 1.3875 with 0.5000 offset max 1.4375
vmch 1.60v
vchio 1.60v

DDR1000 @ 4.4.4.15 anything above DDR1000 will bsod even when the processor is @ stock speed !?!?!@@##

strange|ife

11-21-2007, 09:38 AM

Finally.

I am ready to put this rig together. Been to busy lately, have time this week so let the fun begin :D.

Thanks Ace for the flash BIOS guide, was a piece of cake to follow.... prof is in the testing as they say ;) so will flash in a minute.

Just a quick question: Memetest, witch option should I select for a good test. I want to test each stick separately then put in all 4.

run test 5 mainly, for at least 4 hours. also test 3,7 are good to run in memtest86+

there is a new version of memtest 3.6 out, which runs in windows. Using both is a good idea.

DangeR!

11-21-2007, 09:51 AM

run test 5 mainly, for at least 4 hours. also test 3,7 are good to run in memtest86+

there is a new version of memtest 3.6 out, which runs in windows. Using both is a good idea.
Thanks allot for the reply.

strange|ife

11-21-2007, 10:02 AM

ace your getting a qx9650?

:jealous:

nordien

11-21-2007, 10:50 AM

Anybody using high binned DGKX on this board ?
My Kingston PC2 9600 wont do DDR600, no matter what vdimm/vmch
But they can do DDR550 @ 5-4-4-15 @ 2.45 or DDR500 @ 4-4-4-15 or DDR400 @ 3-3-3-6

The Kingtons are DDR600 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.35v

:down:

Supershanks

11-21-2007, 11:46 AM

This is the highest ii've managed with memory not sure how stable it is yet
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc311/Supershanks/1200Dram.jpg

jcool

11-21-2007, 12:40 PM

run test 5 mainly, for at least 4 hours. also test 3,7 are good to run in memtest86+

there is a new version of memtest 3.6 out, which runs in windows. Using both is a good idea.

Funny, I was gonna recommend 5, 6 & 8 :D
Anyways, I'd just let it run through 1 complete pass and then move on to prime blend... cause memtest won't tell you whether your system is stable, but prime will.

Ace-a-Rue

11-21-2007, 09:07 PM

ace your getting a qx9650?

:jealous:

eventually...waiting on the retail chips and for prices to slack off....trying to be patient and not just bust out there to get an OEM cpu....i still could get a bummer chip...you know, the luck of the draw.;)

Ace-a-Rue

11-21-2007, 09:12 PM

Ace-a-Rue

11-21-2007, 09:13 PM

This is the highest ii've managed with memory not sure how stable it is yet
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc311/Supershanks/1200Dram.jpg

ok...bench it and show some results....i'm curious to see how this board stacks up performance wise.

nordien

11-22-2007, 12:56 AM

i think it is a rarity to attain the advertised spec for the memory.

Maybe youre right. But I have a new stable set up.

8*450 = 3.6ghz @ 1.43v
DDR1080 @ 4-5-4-15 @ 2.40v
vMch 1.75v
vICHIO 1.60v
CPU vtt 1.30

DDR1100 @ 5-5-5-15 is also possible but the vdimm has te be 2.45v wich i think is to high for 2.35v rated dimms......

Maybe a new final bios can solve this ;)

67636

jcool

11-22-2007, 05:24 AM

2,4V will always be to high for 24/7 operation imo. Maybe some chips/PCBs can cope with it for some time, but eventually they will die. Even though some vendors rate them at >2,3V I wouldn't go beyond that.

Supershanks

11-22-2007, 06:47 AM

Have been doing the same run as nordien.
8x450 = 3.6k @1.40v
DDR 1080 5,5,5,12 2.175v
vMch 1.43v
vICH 1.12v
vICHIO 1.50v
CPU vtt 1.30

kicked of last night. got back to see it still running with 16hrs up. played with skins in guru, went to open cpu-z ready for the pics.............. It Froze.:lol::shrug:

Oh well re-running::D

@jcool yep especially as the vdimm lifts a bit when memory is under load ie large ffts. see MUltimeter Measurments 2) VDIMM (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3720-post22.html) I've found i can run mine quite comfortably at 2.175v which will be roughly 2.215v loaded, should be good for 24/7 use.

Shalamay

11-22-2007, 09:09 AM

Hello guys, I'm planning on putting my system together tomorrow, any tips? What bios seems to be the best? I have a Q6600 GO on phase, patriot 1066 ram, 8800gtx. Thanks for the help and happy thanksgiving.

Supershanks

11-22-2007, 09:34 AM

I think we're mostly running with the BTA 12. If you struggle to get it Pm me or one of the guys & we'll e-mail you it, or contact Abit support.

DangeR!

11-22-2007, 09:44 AM

Hi,

Follow this (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2397392&postcount=2023) guide written by Ace-a-Rue to flash.

This is the latest BETA BIOS M704B_12.B02 (http://rapidshare.com/files/71528117/M704B_12.B02) (rapidshare link).

Ademcg

11-22-2007, 12:36 PM

nordien

11-22-2007, 01:06 PM

right, I came to the rig tonight after several days leaving it without power and I get this:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a272/ademcg/107_0757.jpg

I have now tried to clear the CMOS 3 times and removed the RAM leaving a single DImm in slot 1 and it won't go any further, it doesn't even respond to the keyboard (F1 or Del)

Anyone know how to sort it ?

Final straw me thinks :(

Cmos battery dead, remove battery, remove power for 10 mins. then put battery back and power. It should work. If not get a new battery. If not RMA. I flashed back to BIOS 11 due to several problems. Maybe its the beta bios.

Supershanks

11-22-2007, 02:16 PM

I flashed back to BIOS 11 due to several problems. Maybe its the beta bios. What were issues the Memory controller or other issues ??

Heidfirst

11-22-2007, 03:57 PM

played with skins in guru, went to open cpu-z ready for the pics.............. It Froze.:lol::shrug:
left you a note on Clunk's about a known conflict between CPU-Z 1.41 & uGuru - doesn't happen on CPU-Z 1.40 or earlier.

Ademcg

11-22-2007, 04:12 PM

2 hours with the battery out, three sticks of RAM later and it lives again !
Installing Win XP PRo to hopefully sort out graphics problems then maybe I can start to Overclock :yepp:

Shalamay

11-22-2007, 04:33 PM

Thank you guys for the information. I'll let you know how it goes.

neobr

11-22-2007, 06:27 PM

Pretty mobo... :up:

Ace-a-Rue

11-22-2007, 06:39 PM

right, I came to the rig tonight after several days leaving it without power and I get this:

I have now tried to clear the CMOS 3 times and removed the RAM leaving a single DImm in slot 1 and it won't go any further, it doesn't even respond to the keyboard (F1 or Del)

Anyone know how to sort it ?

Final straw me thinks :(

what kind of keyboard are you using?..USB?...could be the problem...try changing out the keyboard.

nordien

11-22-2007, 09:43 PM

What were issues the Memory controller or other issues ??

The memory controller. I had problems with my memory kit OCZ D9GMH and Kingston D9GKX. Also i had a couple of strange reboot issues while overclocking. Now im back to 11 again and the system whil recover from a bad OC flawlessy but the memory issues remain. I have to give 2.4v to get to DDR540 @ 4-5-4-15 or 2.4v for DDR550 @ 5-5-5-15. Anything above gives me bsod's. !

chatmaster

11-22-2007, 11:24 PM

I'm hanging on this thread Im still on the fence whether to get this board. Its showing up now for a very reasonable price. But Im not 100% convinced yet on its reliability. Abit in the past haven't been overly kind to me when bios problems arise (thinking back to an old 478 mb i had which would cold boot all the time and they wouldn't do a damn thing about it)

Ademcg

11-23-2007, 07:27 AM

Ok I take one step forward three back.

I sort the check sum error thing...install XP Pro and still the same performance with the 8800GT and the graphics interface, now the Nvidia sentinal warning thing pops up every log in stating the card has insufficuent power and has been throttled back for safety, so its not a driver issue its a hardware thing.

I have been in touch with enermax UK who have asked if there is the possibility of increasing the voltage to the PCI-E slot #1 ??
I am not aware of such an option in the bios.

I have tried changing the PCI clock [Frequency] upto 110 but it does nothing,
I have also increased the ICHIO voltage and nothing changes (what would be a reasonable level to set this too, just for the record?)

So, we are down to either the Graphics card, the Motherboard or the PSU ?

A lot of other people are having trrouble with the 8800GT & GTX cards and this nvidia sentinel warning, not sufficient power ! Very prevelant in Antec PSU owners. I guess it still could be a driver issue too.....great stuff:shrug:

Supershanks

11-23-2007, 07:50 AM

Supershanks

11-23-2007, 09:41 AM

Making some headway:D

8x450 21Hr Prime Stable (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4236-post82.html)

Added +4 tpo max FSB 495x8 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4242-post83.html)

Ademcg

11-23-2007, 10:10 AM

Hi Ademcg,
sorry to hear about your troubles, it does seem to be card related. Most issues i've seen with PSU's are between the mobo/psu .I've not touched ICHIO from the default of 1.50v, your right there is no direct way to increase the PCI-E voltage. Though i have heard of people doing it indirectly by raising ICHIO.

I'm not sure if it has any relevence but there is the PCIE- Root Port Function in Bios (Advanced Chipset) I'm not sure what impact changing 1st item for slot 1 from has maybe changing it from auto to enabled may help :shrug:

Edit:
Cheers Heidfirst:up:

Thanks for the sympathy dude....its a frustrating process.

I currently have the Root port Function set to enabled, as I thought this would directly force it to select and work properly with the card.

oh well, the only way is up...as they say :confused2

Mickey Padge

11-23-2007, 12:16 PM

I have just installed this board with my E6850 and 2x1GB OCZ Ti Alpha memory, I am getting a C1 boot error :(

I tried only 1 stick in each slot, but it is always the same C1 error. Clearing CMOS does not help and at the moment I have no other ram to hand......

If I boot with no ram I get C1, which makes sense of course :p: :)

Any ideas? I know I need to try some other memory, but can C1 mean anything else, aside from memory detection error?

Cheers :D

Supershanks

11-23-2007, 12:23 PM

Try Removing Battery for a while. Leave cmos jumper on clear.
Replace battery & jumper & try with a single stick.
Set Vdimm to match your memory stick, save bios & add 2nd stick

Mickey Padge

11-23-2007, 12:32 PM

Try Removing Battery for a while. Leave cmos jumper on clear.
Replace battery & jumper & try with a single stick.
Set Vdimm to match your memory stick, save bios & add 2nd stick

OK I am trying that now, thanks :)

Fingers crossed I can get into the BIOS to bump the voltage and relax the timings.

Has anyone from OCZ been contacted regarding this? It seems there is an issue with this board and their sticks, one which a simple BIOS update may cure......

EDIT: I left it for half an hour, but it made no difference :(

Supershanks

11-23-2007, 02:36 PM

You might need to repeat there's someone with the same issue here.IX38 C1-Errorcode (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/hardware/1011-ix38-c1-errorcode.html)

Mickey Padge

11-23-2007, 02:52 PM

Thanks for the link :)

He was using OCZ PC8000 RAM too, but tried Kingston with the same results.......

In a way I hope it is a memory issue, as it is an easier fix than a DOA motherboard :(

superbowtie

11-23-2007, 04:42 PM

hey guys, first post!

I love this board. but the only problem i've seen and wonder if anyone else has had this problem or knows how to fix it.. my cpu fan (stock heat sink btw) seems to stay at 780rpm or 840rpm in guru.

I've tried everything i can think of disabling FanEQ, then enable it, change it to PWM then back, i've set all the lows to 11.5 or 95% to try and make it run fast.. and i've tried everything in Guru's options... when i First got the system running, the fan would run close to 2k on rpms cause i changed the volts for low to 11.5v. Then one time i hit F8 in the bios to "oc on the fly" well my bios froze and since then i've always had the low reading despite temps in the high 40's. Ive even tried uninstalling guru then installing again. but still the same stupid 780rpm reading

another thing.. i've currently running a e2180 at 3.2Ghz but i gotta set the voltage to like 1.5375 which shows up as 1.57 on the front of guru.. now it runs fine at 3.0Ghz with like 1.45v but won't boot till i up the voltage for 3.2Ghz.. my other voltage specs are:
ddr2 2.200
mch 1.30
ichio 1.55
cpu vtt 1.30
ich 1.10
bios is version 11.
ram is Gskill running at 1000mhz with 5-4-3-5 timings

see anything that i could do to help lower the cpu voltage? worlds different OCing this compaired to my p4 3.2Ghz :)

Ace-a-Rue

11-23-2007, 07:34 PM

some one stated back a while ago to unplug the PSU for a minute or so...boot up into the bios and set the cpu fan up the way you want...if that doesn't work, clear cmos and reset your bios settings.

Shalamay

11-23-2007, 08:17 PM

Hey guys, I keep getting a 6x multi upon start up. I have the beta bios. What do you think? Thanks.

Ace-a-Rue

11-23-2007, 08:33 PM

Hey guys, I keep getting a 6x multi upon start up. I have the beta bios. What do you think? Thanks.

turn off C1E and EIST

Shalamay

11-23-2007, 08:49 PM

Ace, thank you (and for your guide too). Well, I'm at 9x450=4052 at 1.57v with the other volts at (copied Supershanks with a small bump):
vMch 1.45v
vICH 1.14v
vICHIO 1.52v
CPU vtt 1.32
Ram is at 5-5-5-15@1081 2.3v

I think that is all I'm going to do tonight, tomorrow 4.? Thanks again!

Ace-a-Rue

11-24-2007, 06:29 AM

glad to help, shalamay!

BTW, what are your specs?

superbowtie

11-24-2007, 09:31 AM

Is there something wrong with my board or is it the cpu just seeing its limits.

I can get my e2180 to 3.2Ghz with a 10x multi but when i try 6x with a clock of 333, it refuses to boot! and thats with a voltage of like 1.45! now the thing is rock stable at 2Ghz (using the 10x multi).

could someone send me the beta bios

superbowtie@hotmail.com

Shalamay

11-24-2007, 10:00 AM

Ace I have: IX38, Q6600 GO, 4GB Patriot 1066, 8800GTX KO, two 74GB raptors raid 0, and vista 64.

I scored 14242 on 3dmark06. I had to bump the ram down to 1:1 at 960, becasue it was unstable and failed at 1080. This is my second Q6600 GO and runs much better than my frist one, alot cooler and more stable with less volts. My Jinu phase unit stayed strong and kept it nice and cold. I'll try and bump it up alittle more today see what see can do, but 4ghz is fast.

I'm really like this board, the fact that the area around the cpu is flat and I can use nice full sheets of insulation. It runs alot cooler than my 680i and more stable with alot less volts. I put a fan over the nb and the temps are nice. So far I'm impressed and I've had no major issuse's. Thank you guys for the help and I'll keep you updated.

Superbowtie look at the post on page 8 from DangeR! (#182 I think)

Ace-a-Rue

11-24-2007, 10:03 AM

what is your FSB and multi?

4G's of memory is difficult to clock it at high mhz and at ratios other than 1:1

Shalamay

11-24-2007, 10:18 AM

9x450=4052 at 1.57v with the other volts at (copied Supershanks with a small bump):
vMch 1.45v
vICH 1.14v
vICHIO 1.52v
CPU vtt 1.32
Ram is at 5-5-5-15@960 2.3v

If I can get 4.2-4.5 that will bump the ram speed back up, I guess we will see. I'm happy being stable at 4 though and not stressing the phase unit.

DangeR!

11-24-2007, 10:57 AM

Mickey Padge

11-24-2007, 10:57 AM

OK I managed to boot with a 1GB G.Skill HZ stick :)

I am posting this message from my PC now! :cool:

I have yet to test my OCZ with a voltage bump in the BIOS yet......

So it seems this board has problems with certain memory modules and the BIOS could use some work.

I will post back if I have any luck with the OCZ......

Mickey Padge

11-24-2007, 12:41 PM

No go at all with the 2X1GB OCZ DDR2 PC8000 Titanium Alpha VX chips, even with the voltage bumped and the timings relaxed it just sits at "C1".

I tried each stick in each slot to no avail, I am wondering if the memory has just had it? I will get a mate to test it.....

Supershanks

11-24-2007, 01:06 PM

Been playing with getting 8x470 stable, got a bit bored so dropped this
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc311/Supershanks/9x460SuperPi.png
Detail (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4273-post84.html)

Edit: 4230 9x470 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=272725) 1m pi ran but 32m died aroubd iteration 10 [not exact]

jcool

11-24-2007, 03:13 PM

Great OCing your Q6600! But 12,390 isn't exactly fast for 4,15Ghz :(
I got 13,00 on my QuadGT with 3,85Ghz - then my E6600 died of high voltage... oh well, it wasn't that great anyway (one of the first from October 06).
Which strap did you use for that run? Looks like 1333...

Supershanks

11-24-2007, 03:38 PM

1:1 like it says:) on Cpu-z. No like i said in the detail post i could have tightened the memory timings. :shrug:

Ace-a-Rue

11-24-2007, 04:25 PM

Heidfirst

11-24-2007, 07:46 PM

Is there something wrong with my board or is it the cpu just seeing its limits.

I can get my e2180 to 3.2Ghz with a 10x multi but when i try 6x with a clock of 333, it refuses to boot! and thats with a voltage of like 1.45! now the thing is rock stable at 2Ghz (using the 10x multi).

unless you have C1E & EIST disabled it is perhaps trying to boot at the default 10x multi & 333fsb & it is possibly beyond it at that voltage.

Supershanks

11-25-2007, 01:54 AM

yep will run 3d2006 later today i think. Haven't bothered with that side much yet as i was using an 8500 when barebones, it's in my case now so i'll run with my 8800gts, so i can compare with my earlier results on other boards.

:)

jcool

11-25-2007, 03:34 AM

1:1 like it says:) on Cpu-z. No like i said in the detail post i could have tightened the memory timings. :shrug:

Naw I meant what strap... 1066 or 1333? The board does have that strap setting, right?!
Or is it all-auto with these new stuff :rolleyes:

Supershanks

11-25-2007, 05:29 AM

Naw m8 i'ts all auto, no choice like
Gigabyte X38 DQ6, miss that a bit especially the 1600 strap 2.66 Gigatalk 1.33 in proper money was absolutely solid.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/soopershanks/Gigabyte%20X38%20DQ6/bios/StrapChart.jpg

Ace-a-Rue

11-25-2007, 06:30 AM

doesn't this board have FSB to Memroy ratios like 1:1, 1:1.2, 1:1.25, 1:1.50, 1:1.66 and 1:2?...if the board does then memory straps are selected using those FSB to Memory ratios...the first two should be the 1333 strap and the second two are the 1066 strap...the last two are the 800 strap....it is that way on the IP35.

here is a bios image to show you what i am talking about.

Ademcg

11-25-2007, 10:47 AM

DangeR!

11-25-2007, 10:55 AM

whats the best strap then?

I run 1:1 375x8 on my E2140 @ 3GHz.

Shalamay

11-25-2007, 11:35 AM

Supershanks, did you leave sll of your voltages the same when you went to 4.2? I still have not tried anything new, no time, but maybe tonight.

DangeR!, I have 1:1 at 9x450, so my 1066 ram is at 960 area. Ace stated above that 4GB is hard to run at anything but 1:1 at a high oc and I could not run it at 1:2 which was 1080.

Supershanks

11-25-2007, 11:44 AM

My point was that unlike the asus p5k
which has the FSB Strap to Northbridge: (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2537328&postcount=1491) That lets you filter which strap base you want to use.266,333,etc.,

As Ace shows in his annotation all straps are selectable from the single Dram Speed control (identical to the IP35-Pro, without the above strap base filter. (266,333, 400)

Edit:
@Shalamay
Except vcore which i upped settings were as 4146 9x460 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4273-post84.html)

Ademcg

11-25-2007, 12:15 PM

no idea m8.:shrug: ..Just about to RMA my PSU to hopefully resolve all my woes with this board:caution:

jcool

11-25-2007, 12:58 PM

Guys, what about the "settings lost" issue? Did Abit fix that yet with a new beta bios?

DangeR!

11-25-2007, 01:04 PM

:(

I was hopeing to get my ram to around 500fsp, but if its really difficult, I don't hold much luck. I haven't tried yet as I'm happy with what I got at the min. When I have more time I will give pushing up the fsb and see if i can hit 500.

Do you think getting 1GBx4 (4GB) running at that speed will be possible with a few bios updates? Getting a Q9450 in Jan.

EDIT: 500 is so I can hit 4Ghz on the Q9450 (has 8 multi)

DangeR!

11-25-2007, 01:08 PM

Guys, what about the "settings lost" issue? Did Abit fix that yet with a new beta bios?
No. Powering down the PC and disconnecting it from mains still wipes the bios...
So does changing ram or disconnecting a SATA lead 0.o

Mickey Padge

11-25-2007, 01:16 PM

No. Powering down the PC and disconnecting it from mains still wipes the bios...
So does changing ram or disconnecting a SATA lead 0.o

My board does not wipe the BIOS settings when I switch everything off at the mains..........

DangeR!

11-25-2007, 01:21 PM

mine does :(

Mickey Padge

11-25-2007, 01:33 PM

The CMOS battery needs changing, or a complete forced BIOS reflash might help. Otherwise that looks like a reason to RMA in my book........

jcool

11-25-2007, 01:36 PM

Okay... so not everybody has that problem - interesting. Maybe PSU related? What are you two using, respectively?

Mickey Padge

11-25-2007, 01:59 PM

I have a Seasonic 700W PSU, the only problems I have had with the board is it's refusal to post with my OCZ memory. I shall know soon if the ram is faulty or not.....

Ademcg

11-25-2007, 02:33 PM

No. Powering down the PC and disconnecting it from mains still wipes the bios...
So does changing ram or disconnecting a SATA lead 0.o

Yep, mine does too.:cussing:

Mickey Padge, perhaps you have something set in the bios different ??

Can you take pics of each bios screen so we can see.

It is really annoying and would definately like it solving too

Supershanks

11-25-2007, 03:11 PM

All Bios settings retained on power off here, no problemo:D

Ran 465x8@1:1.20 1116 with 1.45v
PWM Prime & Settings (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4347-post88.html)
Benches (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4350-post89.html)

Mickey Padge

11-25-2007, 03:24 PM

Yep, mine does too.:cussing:

Mickey Padge, perhaps you have something set in the bios different ??

Can you take pics of each bios screen so we can see.

It is really annoying and would definately like it solving too

Sure OK :cool:

I have an E6850 using only one 1GB stick of Geil HZ memory.

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9571/dsc00720qe4.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00720qe4.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3588/dsc00723aa5.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00723aa5.jpg)http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9370/dsc00719st7.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00719st7.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/821/dsc00722lv5.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00722lv5.jpg)
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9665/dsc00727st4.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00727st4.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8440/dsc00721kv6.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00721kv6.jpg)http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1740/dsc00725il8.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00725il8.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8731/dsc00726kn8.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00726kn8.jpg)
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1571/dsc00728av7.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00728av7.jpg) http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2884/dsc00724we8.th.jpg (http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00724we8.jpg)

I am running stock, but with voltages boosted anyway, it is a mates memory and I want to give it back in one piece :p:

I hope to have some new RAM on Tuesday. If the OCZ is faulty or not, I will need some either way :D

jcool

11-25-2007, 05:12 PM

lol, now it's 2:2. Seems to me like a 50/50 chance whether the boards keeps its settings or not... strange.

superbowtie

11-25-2007, 05:26 PM

no loss of settings here. btw turning off C1E & EIST allowed me to up the fsb with the lower multi's thanks.. Is it the general accepted belief that it seems to take alittle more volts compaired to other x38 and p35 booards for same OC?

btw.. bios 12 beta up and running.

Ace-a-Rue

11-25-2007, 05:43 PM

whats the best strap then?

I run 1:1 375x8 on my E2140 @ 3GHz.

1:1 is the easiest for overclocking...i say start with that to find out your highest overclock...after finding that mhz, then explore the other straps.

mark0326

11-26-2007, 01:10 AM

No loss of BIOS settings here - just sometimes get an extra beep when first powering on? and beep before 'hit Del' doesn't always sound.

Supershanks

11-26-2007, 01:18 AM

1:1 is the easiest for overclocking...i say start with that to find out your highest overclock...after finding that mhz, then explore the other straps. Correct also, maximising CPU speed will give you most power, being able to speed up ram using a strap is good for benches, but is bling, not adding that much more in real world performance.

Is it the general accepted belief that it seems to take alittle more volts compaired to other x38 and p35 booards for same OC? I thought that initially but no longer by tweaking VTT i'm now finding i'm using the same or less. That's particularly true when running a lower multi. On previous builds i've always found that an 8x450 took slightly more vcore than 9x400 for example.
I managed 8x450 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/4236-post82.html) with 1.40v. My 9x400 was at 1.4225v Now I know i may have over egged the vcore on 9x400 given the 8x450 result, so may rerun it when i get chance.

My Gigabute x38 & p5k managed 9x400 @1.40v vcore but both needed >1.4v for 8x450.

strange|ife

11-26-2007, 06:44 AM

hows this board working out for people with G.skill HZ 6400 sticks, or any Gskill for that matter

Supershanks

11-26-2007, 07:29 AM

hows this board working out for people with G.skill HZ 6400 sticks, or any Gskill for that matter Pretty much the same as any Micron D9 memory chips i would think:), shouldn't be a problem. Memory clocking isn't that great yet, but with a more mature bios shouldn't be an issue.

luck:)

DangeR!

11-26-2007, 09:31 AM

More info on the "not saving BIOS settings when power cord out of PSU".

After some testing I have figured out that it ONLY looses my overclock settings and sets them to default.

Every other setting it remembers e.g. disabling C1E and EIST.

Must need to enable something to keep the overclock settings.

Strange thing is that it remembers my RAM timings but not the voltage. I reverts back to default rather than keeping 2.1v.

I'll mess around some more tomorrow.

DangeR!

11-26-2007, 10:50 AM

Another thing is uGuru in windows looses its settings when the power cord is pulled :/.

I have to manually click on default for everything to get it to monitor anything.

superbowtie

11-26-2007, 12:33 PM

Danger your exactly right same here no loss of ram setting etc. Just OC settings Guru does the same thing, loss of settings. the first time i unplugged it didn't but that was like less then 10 minutes, second it was like 3 hours and then it lost the OC setting. I was at 2.90Ghz must have mistaken looking at 2.00Ghz on the restart.

seems my board likes 8x375 with 1.45v volts more then it does 10x300 at 1.5v. I've learned so much about this generation of OCing in the last few days its crazy!:ROTF:

one question guru will show a slightly higher volt reading then what i have selected in bios like i'll have 1.45 and it will show 1.47 in guru. pretty much the norm for everyone?

Supershanks

11-26-2007, 12:47 PM

Yep the Idle Vcore is a little higher than that selected in bios. That's supported by Multimeter readings (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/3720-post22.html)

jcool

11-26-2007, 01:04 PM

Ok, IX38 ordered - will have it here by Wednesday I suppose... will test Q6600 G0 OCing with 4x1GB D9GMH (Crucial Ballistix are quite popular atm, small wonder considering ther current cost/performance ratio). I hope it fits the IFX-14 :)