New Abit Ix38 Quad Gt

[Hazzan]

See in the official web site ABIT..... launching new MOTHERBOARD ABIT IX 38 QUAD GT :

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/index.php


http://www.abit.com.tw/upload/products/ix38-quadgt_top_500.jpg

SPESIFICATION :

http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=IX38+QuadGT&fMTYPE=LGA775&DEFTITLE=Y

[Revv23]

looks nice. :)

[strange|ife]

bought time they put some data about this sucker on the site. hope the rumour that it will be priced near ip35 pro is true. Still debating on this, or just waiting till ddr3 comes down in price...for the full x38/48 exp

1600FSB standard is very tempting.

any idea when we will start seeing this boards stateside? it seems some of the vendors pushed stuff back for the ddr3 boards till early nov=[ HOpe this guy comes out in the next couple of weeks

[shawn1998]

I am getting this as soon as it's out, but I always swap out the heatpipe for active coolers (watercool my cpu and mount the board inverted in a Lian-Li V2000 case, so the heatpipe is no good). I think it might be a bit difficult to find a norhtbridge cooler that will mount using the existing 4 holes, or at least two of them.. This could really suck.

Oh well, I'm going to get it anyway, I'll just have to figure it out.

Shawn

[STaRGaZeR]

Please report vdroop and other issues :D

[strange|ife]

yes droop/ quad temps, sata issues if any etc:clap:

[ncsa]

Agree ... the amount of vDroop under a Quad will be good to know. The Abit IP35-Pro is an excellent board and easy on its key components when OC'ing :)

[Ace-a-Rue]

i don't like the digital PWM...it was a problem with keeping digital PWM's cooled (when P95'ing) on the AB9 QuadGT board when using a Quad core....it might be ok for a dual core.

[Lugburz]

Is it already out? Ace-a-Rue Quad-Core performance is vital for a X38, if it can´t deliver, it wont sell...

[T2k]

bought time they put some data about this sucker on the site. hope the rumour that it will be priced near ip35 pro is true.


I highly doubt that. X38 is known to be an expensive solution hence the crazy pricing on Asus, Giga boards...

[Hazzan]

@Ace-a-Rue : I dont think So.... I hope this board with new revision DIGITAL PWM....

[T2k]

I am getting this as soon as it's out, but I always swap out the heatpipe for active coolers (watercool my cpu and mount the board inverted in a Lian-Li V2000 case, so the heatpipe is no good). I think it might be a bit difficult to find a norhtbridge cooler that will mount using the existing 4 holes, or at least two of them.. This could really suck.

Oh well, I'm going to get it anyway, I'll just have to figure it out.

Shawn

I like Abit a LOT abd I was set to do the same thing until I realized the Asus Maximus Formula SE comes with heatpipe-WC cascade cooling - unless IX38 QuadGT comes for a LOT cheaper (ie $50-60) it doesn't make too mauch sense to waste time an energy with buying and mounting custom blocks, I think.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I'm not sure I like the hole spacing for the NB. It doesn't look like my EK NB4-Intel block would fit, so someone would have to make a block exclusively for this board. :down:

EDIT: it looks like the IX38 Max is using the same spacing.

[Start]

Anyone notice the position of that molex connector? Also, I'm waiting for the X38 Pro because of the active cooling instead of all these heatpipes.


i don't like the digital PWM...it was a problem with keeping digital PWM's cooled (when P95'ing) on the AB9 QuadGT board when using a Quad core....it might be ok for a dual core.

Indeed. Overclocking quad on the QuadGT heat up the PWM up to at least 95C for me.

[Ace-a-Rue]

@Ace-a-Rue : I dont think So.... I hope this board with new revision DIGITAL PWM....

i hope so with that revision....can you send me a board to try out!:up:;)

[JoeBar]

i don't like the digital PWM...it was a problem with keeping digital PWM's cooled (when P95'ing) on the AB9 QuadGT board when using a Quad core....it might be ok for a dual core.
That was one of my main concerns when i saw this board on Abit's site today.


@Ace-a-Rue : I dont think So.... I hope this board with new revision DIGITAL PWM....
However i saw that they refer to it as a NEW Revision. So i hope it doesn't have this prob.


One of my main concerns also is the placement of the heatpipe next to the mem slots. It'll probably block an aftermarket mem cooler.

[coolice]

Anyone notice the position of that molex connector? Also, I'm waiting for the X38 Pro because of the active cooling instead of all these heatpipes.



Indeed. Overclocking quad on the QuadGT heat up the PWM up to at least 95C for me.

izzit in between 2nd blue pcie slot and black pcie slot?:eek:

[terrybogard]

izzit in between 2nd blue pcie slot and black pcie slot?:eek:

I just realized that as well :shocked:

[aiya]

i don't know what you guys are worried/shocked about since its just the outline/traces of a molex, not a physical molex and if you put the IP35 Pro and X38 QuadGT together side by side. it is basically the same pcb layout.

[Spawne32]

so ive narrowed it down to 3 choices, ABIT, DFI, MSI for an X38 board, decisions decisions.

[Borgod]

Abit - 2 broken
DFI - 1 broken
MSI - havent tried

[shawn1998]

Abit - 2 broken
DFI - 1 broken
MSI - havent tried

Wow, you have already had bad experiences with Abit and DFI X38 motherboards??? How did you get them (and break them) so soon and so much before anyone else?

[Borgod]

Not X38 chipset.

P965 & 680i

[Rattle]

wait for x48

[Heidfirst]

hope the rumour that it will be priced near ip35 pro is true.
UK pre-order pricing is ~25% dearer than current IP35 Pro pricing.

& yes, the new digital PWM is supposed to run cooler than the old.

[merlin76]

wait for x48
According to Anandtech X48 could arrive at the end of Q1 2008. That's a long time...

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3120&p=3

[The Stilt]

The digital PWM will not last.

[Harshal]

^^^ hmmm dats not good news :D

But still DFi and now even ABIT seem to have adopted Digital PWM, why??

[Heidfirst]

see the post by Oskar Wu in the last week.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160592

[Johnny Bravo]

The digital PWM will not last.

care to expand on this statement Stilt?

[dinos22]

The digital PWM will not last.

:confused:

[Pillo-kun]

Mine Abit Ab quad gt mobo is still going like there was no tomorrow since jan/feb, but that is with only a dual core at 500mhz fsb. So i dont think the statemant is valid.

[Spawne32]

The digital PWM will not last.

I dont see where you get that statement from, digital pwm is just new, as they perfect it more it will become standard.

[Hazzan]

some information about DIGITAL PWM on ABIT IX38 QUAD GT.....I hope with new Revision...:) :)

http://img.techpowerup.org/071011/112378.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/071011/113.jpg

[The Stilt]

care to expand on this statement Stilt?

My company sells many things, including components from Abit and DFI.
Most of the problems on the newest high-end DFI and Abit boards are caused by the digital pwm.

P35-T2R motherboards seem to be dropping like flies, 7pcs down already from 30pcs total sold units I think.
On broken boards pwm usually makes cracking and popping sound when the board is trying to power up.

Also few Abit QuadGT, IN9-Max and DFI nF680i boards have been changed because similar issues, but the RMA rates are very close to normal on these.

I do not have anything against digital pwm, but I must say I really haven´t seen a burned "traditional" cpu pwm since Gigabyte K8N times.

[Ace-a-Rue]

My company sells many things, including components from Abit and DFI.
Most of the problems on the newest high-end DFI and Abit boards are caused by the digital pwm.

P35-T2R motherboards seem to be dropping like flies, 7pcs down already from 30pcs total sold units I think.
On broken boards pwm usually makes cracking and popping sound when the board is trying to power up.

Also few Abit QuadGT, IN9-Max and DFI nF680i boards have been changed because similar issues, but the RMA rates are very close to normal on these.

I do not have anything against digital pwm, but I must say I really haven´t seen a burned "traditional" cpu pwm since Gigabyte K8N times.

i burned up one or two digital PWM's on my QuadGT board a few weeks back...i took the HS off and remounted it with nuts and bolts...apparently i turned to many turns on one side so it was not sitting flat on the opposite end, so 2 of the 5 PWM's were not touching the HS...it was ok until i P95 my quad core, which was a "G0"...it took only about 90 seconds to smell that sweet burning aroma!:D

[ent]

I do not have anything against digital pwm, but I must say I really haven´t seen a burned "traditional" cpu pwm since Gigabyte K8N times.
What about ASUS P5K series and blowing capacitors? :D

From my experiences with digital PWM I would say that they provide more stable Vcore. When me and my friend benched same E6700 on Ln2 on P5B dlx, P5K and QuadGT, QuadGT allows us to clock CPU highest with lowest Vcore.

[JoeBar]

i burned up one or two digital PWM's on my QuadGT board a few weeks back...i took the HS off and remounted it with nuts and bolts...apparently i turned to many turns on one side so it was not sitting flat on the opposite end, so 2 of the 5 PWM's were not touching the HS...it was ok until i P95 my quad core, which was a "G0"...it took only about 90 seconds to smell that sweet burning aroma!:D
That's bad... :(

Another link on your signature though... :D

[Supershanks]

release date has slipped a week on Yoyotech (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=857cda4a3006e6364dd4868de41ee534) Has been showing 15th up till late pm.

[Spawne32]

release date has slipped a week on Yoyotech (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=857cda4a3006e6364dd4868de41ee534) Has been showing 15th up till late pm.

well 15th is monday, so we dont have long to wait :)

[Nate P.]

Sucks the mounting holes on the NB aren't standard... No aftermarket NB cooling=:down:

[JoeBar]

Sucks the mounting holes on the NB aren't standard... No aftermarket NB cooling=:down:
That's the case with Asus Maximus also. :(

Only Giga's DQ6 has the standard two pin design.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
i burned up one or two digital PWM's on my QuadGT board a few weeks back...i took the HS off and remounted it with nuts and bolts...apparently i turned to many turns on one side so it was not sitting flat on the opposite end, so 2 of the 5 PWM's were not touching the HS...it was ok until i P95 my quad core, which was a "G0"...it took only about 90 seconds to smell that sweet burning aroma!


That's bad... :(

Another link on your signature though... :D

LOL...is those links gnawing at you?;)...i wasn't quick enough with the camera to get a picture of the smoke permeating the room.:D

[Ace-a-Rue]

release date has slipped a week on Yoyotech (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=857cda4a3006e6364dd4868de41ee534) Has been showing 15th up till late pm.

i really want to try out the ddr3 version...any knowledge on when?

[Supershanks]

well 15th is monday, so we dont have long to wait


Has been showing 15th up till late pm slipped a week = 22/10 as per link = not so good:mad:

@ace date is for both as far as i know follow link i gave the store i showing both

[Ace-a-Rue]

one time i bought 5 of the same boards from the UK...getting it done was difficult since the place i found was not dealing with international orders at the time...after talking to the webmaster of the website, he made a special pitch to the boss of the company and it was done...i would venture that purchasing one board would not have completed the deal but five was the charm!;):up:

i generally stay away from international orders (always more expensive than USA orders) unless it is from canada.

i was thinking the release date for the USA is going to be a week or two later than in the UK...do you know?

[Ajfina]

Im waiting for the X98 . seriously when this X38 from ABIT is coming out?

[Supershanks]

I'm in the uk anyway so suits me:D, sorry no idea on US release

[JoeBar]

LOL...is those links gnawing at you?;)...i wasn't quick enough with the camera to get a picture of the smoke permeating the room.:D
Yeah that would be a very nice photo... :D


To our subject. In my opinion in November it'll be widely available. I'm going to get a Maximus for my main rig, but will certainly have an eye on it. Abit has regained my faith after using IP35 Pro.

[coolice]

anyone seen the bios elsewhere?

[Svan]

Well we will see som WC heads for the mobos anyway :)

But yeah quite annoying they can't stick with one thing, but heck this is the world of IT...

About the X48 yeah it's going to be faster but we will wait at least 3 months, everything can happen in 3 months when we talk hardware, every year we see new chipsets, CPU's, GFX cards etc. etc. They make some improvements all the time, some gives you a huge leap in performance while others is almost the same...

You can wait for the X48 but wait awhile longer and you can buy something different... ;)

[strange|ife]

well said.

just glad my 8800 has stood up the past 12 months

[Ace-a-Rue]

what amazes me how Fugger has become an Asus fan boy ever since IDF day...i think Abit is in his rear view mirror!:shrug:

[dogsx2]

what amazes me how Fugger has become an Asus fan boy ever since IDF day...i think Abit is in his rear view mirror!:shrug:


I think Abit is already out of sight in his rear view mirror.:D

P5K3 is in his rvm.;)

[Ace-a-Rue]

I think Abit is already out of sight in his rear view mirror.:D

P5K3 is in his rvm.;)

sounds like it!:D

[T2k]

That's the case with Asus Maximus also. :(

Only Giga's DQ6 has the standard two pin design.

It's been confirmed that MCW-30 works just fine on Maximus.

[Nelly]

More like Abit being boring & not giving out engineering samples of their latest X-38 mobo's. :D

I'll do my bit for the economy anyway lol. Now to find some competitive DDR3. :rolleyes: :yepp:

[Svan]

Anyone know when we will see some DDR3 boards from Abit?

[Nelly]

Anyone know when we will see some DDR3 boards from Abit?Latest ETA I've seen for quite a few online retailers here in the UK is 22nd October (Monday), I hope so anyway. :) Seems strange that Abit havent officially announced IX38 MAX DDR3 on their website yet, only the IX38 QuadGT DDR2 motherboard (supposingly both scheduled ETA's)

[Svan]

Latest ETA I've seen for quite a few online retailers here in the UK is 22nd October (Monday), I hope so anyway. :)

I'm still waiting for my Maximus Extreme, bought it the 5. or something like that but won't get it before 24. :( :(

[Svan]

Latest ETA I've seen for quite a few online retailers here in the UK is 22nd October (Monday), I hope so anyway. :)

Where have you seen a Abit with DDR3?

[Nelly]

Where have you seen a Abit with DDR3?There is other places as well but I cant be bothered to post links to all of them. :)

ETA's 22nd October 07

YOYOtech - Abit IX38-Max (DDR3 ONLY) (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5831&osCsid=967118b7468b0d1e1402e62196de598d)

YOYOtech - Abit IX38 QuadGT (DDR2 ONLY) (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=967118b7468b0d1e1402e62196de598d)
__________________________________________________ ______
They actually have the YOYOtech - Asus Maximus Formula (Special Edition) IX38 (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=6112&osCsid=967118b7468b0d1e1402e62196de598d) in stock seen as you said you wanted one.

[SteveLord]

Bah, forget about DDR3 for a while. ^^

[Dami3n]

Very similar to IP35 PRO. I only expect that abit ensures a good contact with heatsink in PWM area :D

[trans am]

More like Abit being boring & not giving out engineering samples of their latest X-38 mobo's. :D

I'll do my bit for the economy anyway lol. Now to find some competitive DDR3. :rolleyes: :yepp:

Abit is not giving out engineering samples on X38 because they don't have them yet! ;)

[Nelly]

Abit is not giving out engineering samples on X38 because they don't have them yet! ;)I would of at least expected to see some pre-release reviews of the retail version considering the ETA of the 22nd is looking more solid i.e. majoirty of Abit retailers specifying it - they must have literally thousands ready to ship out to distributors around the globe! :)

[NKD]

680i sucks thats why bad experiences happen, no offense. but IP-35 pro has been the best for me.

[bingo13]

I would of at least expected to see some pre-release reviews of the retail version considering the ETA of the 22nd is looking more solid i.e. majoirty of Abit retailers specifying it - they must have literally thousands ready to ship out to distributors around the globe! :)

Review samples are not due until the week of the 22nd, maybe a couple of days earlier. Production is not starting until the 16th or so the last time I spoke with them. DDR2 first, DDR3 a couple of weeks later, subject to change. ;)

[Nelly]

Review samples are not due until the week of the 22nd, maybe a couple of days earlier. Production is not starting until the 16th or so the last time I spoke with them. DDR2 first, DDR3 a couple of weeks later, subject to change. ;)Damn. . . so if your right it looks like I wont be getting a new spanking Abit IX38-Max till November! :eek: oh well hopefully DDR3 prices will keep dropping lol. :)

Strange that alot of retailers giving ETA of 22nd now which was previously the 15th, looks like someones fobbing off the customers with lies. :down:

[Ace-a-Rue]

things generally happen faster in europe than in the USA....not uncommon you get it before we get it in the USA....bummer...LOL;)

[Nelly]

things generally happen faster in europe than in the USA....not uncommon you get it before we get it in the USA....bummer...LOL;)Indeed! usually in the UK we get Abit motherboards before the USA does etc or have done more often that not, although this didnt happend with the IP35 PRO. I hope it is released on the 22nd in the UK then I can come back here & gloat! LOL! (j/k) :)

[TouGe]

There is other places as well but I cant be bothered to post links to all of them. :)

ETA's 22nd October 07

YOYOtech - Abit IX38-Max (DDR3 ONLY) (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5831&osCsid=967118b7468b0d1e1402e62196de598d)

YOYOtech - Abit IX38 QuadGT (DDR2 ONLY) (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=967118b7468b0d1e1402e62196de598d)
__________________________________________________ ______
They actually have the YOYOtech - Asus Maximus Formula (Special Edition) IX38 (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=6112&osCsid=967118b7468b0d1e1402e62196de598d) in stock seen as you said you wanted one.


Only 4 USB connectors and 2 PS/2 connectors? When will MoBo makers move away from the PS/2 connectors? Why can't people w/ PS/2 mice and keyboards just use USB adapters?

I otherwise like the layout of the board, 16/4/16 PCI-E connectos rock but the back panel is just annoying me. It should be standard by now to have at least 6 USB connectors and, at the most, 1 PS/2 connector.

It's funny how the little things can ruin a perfectly good board.

[strange|ife]

still waiting. is the 22nd europe?

[Nelly]

still waiting. is the 22nd europe?Thats for the UK, was originally the 15th.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Only 4 USB connectors and 2 PS/2 connectors? When will MoBo makers move away from the PS/2 connectors? Why can't people w/ PS/2 mice and keyboards just use USB adapters?

I otherwise like the layout of the board, 16/4/16 PCI-E connectos rock but the back panel is just annoying me. It should be standard by now to have at least 6 USB connectors and, at the most, 1 PS/2 connector.

It's funny how the little things can ruin a perfectly good board.

usually abit includes a front panel usb connectors on the left side of the board as you look overhead...i am sure they have it included on this board.

[Ace123]

Its agonizing waiting for this thing.

btw, hi.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Howdy!;)

[Supershanks]

Its agonizing waiting for this thing. yep. well I just keep hoping tommorow is the day, means i should get 1 tuesday. last time it was delayed itwas originally showing 15th & they changed date to 22nd on friday pm, no change this friday fingers crossed. Yoyotech Still 22/10 (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=5634912456983149eec624a44d5a168c) , in fact every fecking thing crossed :lol:

[strange|ife]

well lets hope it gets here after halloween for us over the pond. With these delays it better houst the P5e/maxiums.

Ill lol though if they dont have any type of vcore regulation in the bios.

[Supershanks]

Not good news today No Board Today (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1633&postcount=19):shrug: pre order cancelled, 'ollocks to it.

[T2k]

Where have you seen a Abit with DDR3?

If they have a little brain they will focus on their DDR2 boards (Bios/performance etc) for some time; DDR3 makes very little sense to buy until next year, it's common sense.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Not good news today No Board Today (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=1633&postcount=19):shrug: pre order cancelled, 'ollocks to it.

hmmmmmmmmmm...i hope not about not producing an X38 ddr3 board...i was trying to hold out for them...i hope that it is just a "wild" rumor!


EDIT:...just emailed Abit USA sales asking them about the IX38 and the DDR3 version board...interestingly, Abit USA home page only talks about the the DDR2 version...no news just might be "bad" news...i did ask the sales people, in my email, to post in this thread about it...if they don't, i presume they will communicate back with me and then, i will let everyone know what is up.

[Supershanks]

i've got the feeking that the IX38 Max will end up IX48 Max with the ddr2 quad sometime in November, about 4~5 weeks behind the other X38. Their getting as bad as DFI:lol: for late launches.

Yoyotech are showing sold Out (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=0030cadf08bb0e6b59ea7c23213bf694) as they have no date from abit. originally was 15th then 22nd then :shrug:

evidently
Gary Key on Anandtech was saying that it wasn't due to go into production until wc 16th so add what 2~3 weeks to shipping ?? you'd think that abit could connfirm to yoyotech a 2 week delay, seems they couldn't.

[GAR]

whats wrong with the heatsink fins, seems like low quality?

[Ace123]

Is this thing even worth waiting for at this point.

[Supershanks]

Is this thing even worth waiting for at this point Exactly :shrug: I'm not fussed about hanging around waiting any longer.

[T2k]

hmmmmmmmmmm...i hope not about not producing an X38 ddr3 board...i was trying to hold out for them...i hope that it is just a "wild" rumor!


EDIT:...just emailed Abit USA sales asking them about the IX38 and the DDR3 version board...interestingly, Abit USA home page only talks about the the DDR2 version...no news just might be "bad" news...i did ask the sales people, in my email, to post in this thread about it...if they don't, i presume they will communicate back with me and then, i will let everyone know what is up.

Or just go to http://forum.uabit.com and ask the resident mods...:p:

[Supershanks]

Buff is a mod there & it was he who suggested to me the
Gary Key on Anandtech scenario.

See Post #22 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1653#post1653)

[Ace-a-Rue]

so far...no news from Abit sales...me thinks;) they are going to jump right to the X48, bypassing the X38 DDR3...disappointing...but then again, that might be worthwhile for abit since DDR3 prices are out of reach for most overclocking enthusiasts.

[Ace-a-Rue]

no answer as of yet...i will give them one more day to answer then i move on to Asus....don't want to but Abit is not very polished on how to keep customers coming back to buy their products.

[T2k]

Buff is a mod there & it was he who suggested to me the scenario.

See Post #22 (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=1653#post1653)

ROFL, that makes the story even worse than I thought - Abit doesn't even talk to the reps of its own forum? :rolleyes:

[maxwedge]

ROFL, that makes the story even worse than I thought - Abit doesn't even talk to the reps of its own forum? :rolleyes:
It's better than it used to be but still limited, IMO:(

[Heidfirst]

ROFL, that makes the story even worse than I thought - Abit doesn't even talk to the reps of its own forum? :rolleyes:

We aren't abit employees or anything - just regular enthusiasts like you.
I would be surprised if other mobo mfrs non-employed forum Moderators get told a lot about their forthcoming products either.
Certainly abit are pretty tight about new products - we sometimes hear a little bit more than most people (not in this case) but even then often we can't say anything publicly.

[Supershanks]

I just mentioned Buff as someone who is probably a little closer to the issue than us,
I would be surprised if other mobo mfrs non-employed forum Moderators get told a lot about their forthcoming products either is correct & normal. What i'm frustrated about is the complete drying up of info. Ok if we were told the lunch had slipped back 2 weeks , we might not be pleased , but have the option to wait or make other plans. At the moment we're just left in limbo.

[Ace-a-Rue]

i've talked to myself about this issue:D...i told myself;) that i am jumping ship since Abit has still not answered my email...

you know what...just thought about this again, lack of an answer...possibly these california fires made them abandon their USA headquarters...anyone know where Abit USA is located in california.

EDIT:...just checked at USA abit and they are located in Fremont which is up by San Jose so the fires are not affecting them...BUT...they are moving headquarters in fremont on the 1 & 2 of nov.

[Start]

i've talked to myself about this issue:D...i told myself;) that i am jumping ship since Abit has still not answered my email...

you know what...just thought about this again, lack of an answer...possibly these california fires made them abandon their USA headquarters...anyone know where Abit USA is located in california.

San Jose, which is Norcal. Fires are occuring in Socal.

[maxwedge]

San Jose, which is Norcal. Fires are occuring in Socal.
Fremont. Close though.:D

Their getting ready for a big move to a new building too and thats supposed to happen Nov 1st.

[Ace-a-Rue]

sounds like to me that they are just about shutdown to get ready for the big move.

[Nelly]

I've sent e-mails to the marketing & sales dept etc etc before & never ever got a reply, its really ignorant of them & really pisses me off.

Their techinical support is not bad though, usually get a reply within a couple of days.

I get the feeling that Abit is telling its suppliers these ETA dates to try & make customers hold on, if they said sometime in November people may have already bought an alternative solution, thats my opinion anyway - purely speculative of course.

[whitebrow]

Whats all your guys take on a board for a Q6600? I really liked the QuadGT but I don't know if I will even be able to swing that kind of cash when it comes out. Is the IP35Pro a solid choice for my quad?

It may be a somewhat trivial, but I wanted the LED's on the back of the QuadGT...

[Talonman]

i've talked to myself about this issue:D...i told myself;) that i am jumping ship since Abit has still not answered my email...

If you do jump ship Ace, and go to an ASUS board, we would love to get you and your skills in the Maximus SE thread! ;)

[Supershanks]

ETA dates to try & make customers hold on
It's the lack of an eta, after seeing 2 expire that's prompting me to jump ship.:D


What i'm frustrated about is the complete drying up of info. Ok if we were told the lunch had slipped back 2 weeks , we might not be pleased , but have the option to wait or make other plans. At the moment we're just left in limbo.

[Nelly]

It's the lack of an eta, after seeing 2 expire that's prompting me to jump ship.:DIndeed, I totally agree with you their what I didnt add is this false ETA crap will just make people think "yeah whatever" & jump ship to another brand - it hasn't done them any favors whatsoever giving 2 false ETA dates. :down:

[Supershanks]

I don't blame the retailer , i spoke to him the other day, he was as ~#**!! off as the rest of us it's been about 3 days for him being in the dark, how many if any of the original pre-orders he's lost is anyone's guess . Now showing 02/11/07(uk date foirmat:lol: (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=6cb66d684bdcd4e81d8a11c77cdf4680) but, sadly too late for me i'm giving the Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6 a turn. Maybe next time Abit:shrug:

luck:)

[Nelly]

Aye it's not the retailers fault, it's either the distributor or the actual manufacturer i.e. Abit & to be honest as the days pass I am seriously thinking of just sticking with my Abit IP35 PRO untill the Abit/DFI X48 Motherboards come onto the market probally early 2008. If I think about it if I did buy X38 I would only end up wanting X48 anyway when its released so may as well skip X38 alltogether. :)

If Gigabyte is what your looking at, I have already seen numberous websites showing pictures of their X48 - so it wont be long. . . lol :)

[Xilikon]

Glad I decided to skip this board and went with a P5K-E/Wifi-AP (uncertain release date and no real need of X38 features helped me decide).

[Ace-a-Rue]

If you do jump ship Ace, and go to an ASUS board, we would love to get you and your skills in the Maximus SE thread! ;)

hey, thanks for that!:)

not sure that i would go the Maximus route...i want to get into DDR3 so my upgrade would most likely be the P5E3.

[ACE76]

hey, thanks for that!:)

not sure that i would go the Maximus route...i want to get into DDR3 so my upgrade would most likely be the P5E3.

I'm about to order this motherboard...I've got a 2gb Supertalent DDR3-1866 kit already and just ordered the Centon D9 memory FUGGER listed the discount for (not to mention that he's using it in his personal machine as well)...$359 with his discount isn't bad at all considering prices of DDR3 kits right now...I'll probably slap in the Quad 6600 G0 and see how the combo works out with that board...hopefully it lives up! I don't see myself using DDR2 anymore considering how well DDR3 is working.

I hope you get this board soon as I would love your input on it.

[Ace-a-Rue]

where's the link for fugger's memory?

[whitebrow]

where's the link for fugger's memory?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120520 :D

[Ace123]

I jumped ship as well. To a p5k premium after checking the quad overclock database. Sorry abit, Deliver next time.

[Talonman]

hey, thanks for that!:)

not sure that i would go the Maximus route...i want to get into DDR3 so my upgrade would most likely be the P5E3.

Probably best...

My tail isn't waggin quite as high as it was 24 hours ago (pre Maximus mystery board revision, and troubling X38 news). I'm hanging in there, and I guess ya have to roll with the puntches, or the bugs as it were....

It just knocked a little wind out of my sails.

I kinda wanted to get to power him on before he got a new mobo revision, and enjoyed the thought of X38 being still actively produced when he Beeped for the first time!... sigh

I hope it was just a bad scource from some mean spirited dude. :)

Can you return a board simply because you dont like it?

Still not sure I'm gunna, but still would just like to know, just for the record.

It will still probably do everything I wanted to with my GO, as long as the new BIOS'es keep being produced.

[Talonman]

opps

[Ace-a-Rue]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120520 :D

i found that link but when i typed in the memory code it came up with not found.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Probably best...

My tail isn't waggin quite as high as it was 24 hours ago (pre Maximus mystery board revision, and troubling X38 news). I'm hanging in there, and I guess ya have to roll with the puntches, or the bugs as it were....

It just knocked a little wind out of my sails.

some times expectations exceed real time results.


Can you return a board simply because you dont like it?

newegg.com allows returns on some mobo's with a 15% restocking fee.


It will still probably do everything I wanted to with my GO, as long as the new BIOS'es keep being produced.

asus is generally very good at producing bios revisions.

[strange|ife]

so wahts the big deal? it might come out in nov? or is this vaporware? whats going on here.

[Ace-a-Rue]

the DDR2 version will come out but i don't think the DDR3 version is going to show up for the X38; most likely the X48 will be DDR3...that's my guess

[Supershanks]

the DDR2 version will come out but i don't think the DDR3 version is going to show up for the X38; most likely the X48 will be DDR3...that's my guess

& Mine :lol:

My post #83
i've got the feeking that the IX38 Max will end up IX48 Max with the ddr2 quad sometime in November, about 4~5 weeks behind the other X38. Their getting as bad as DFI for late launches

[aehmkei]

It seems that they really cancelled the X38 Quad GT and are directly going for the X48 version:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3862&Itemid=37

[jooney]

Read it again!
The DDR3 Version is cancelled and comes as X48 early next year.
Abit IX38-QuadGT enter mass production next week :D

[Ace-a-Rue]

Bummer!:( ...i wanted to try the DDR3 version...oh well...i will move on to Asus...didn't really want to but i wanted to get into ddr3 memory since i do have a few extra dollars to spend...i know ddr3 memory is expensive but i wasted a ton of money on corsair's dominators ddr2-1142...it has been disappointing up to now with that memory.

[Heidfirst]

It seems that they really cancelled the X38 Quad GT and are directly going for the X48 version:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3862&Itemid=37
I do wonder whether that is real info or due to speculation here & elsewhere.
Given the price & slow take-up of DDR3 along with the rapid availability of X48 after X38 it would make a lot of sense to me - if you've paid all that money for DDR3 are you going to skimp for an extra $50 on the mobo & get an X38 instead of an X48? I wouldn't.

[Ace-a-Rue]

good news on the horizon...abit's IX38 QuadGT lives on as a DDR3 board...go-na get one if it comes out in about 3-4 weeks.

here's the thread announcing the news:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=163636

[Heidfirst]

DDR2 stock supposedly has arrived in the UK.

[MIS3]

Looks like a lot of you are waiting for the X38 QuadGT, why?

I tried and I could not find any review on this board. There is really not much information on this motherboard. All I know is it has been delayed twice.

[Heidfirst]

Looks like a lot of you are waiting for the X38 QuadGT, why?
expectation of it being a good mobo, abit seem to be on a roll?


I tried and I could not find any review on this board. There is really not much information on this motherboard.
there isn't a review yet but there is plenty of information if you look.

All I know is it has been delayed twice.
all X38s were delayed - it still looks likely to the first non-Asus or Gigabyte X38 to make it to retail (at least in the UK).

[bingo13]

It appears abit had moved delivery of this board out about two weeks as of yesterday.

[Ace-a-Rue]

trying to time it with the release of the QX9650???

[JoeBar]

The way they're going i doubt that they'll be on time with QX9650... :p:


I still have my second thoughts about digital pwm and quads though...

[Ace-a-Rue]

i hear you about the digital PWM...me too!;)

[Supershanks]

I tried and I could not find any review on this board. There is really not much information on this motherboard. All I know is it has been delayed twice
!) not been any yet
2) Your right
3) it's actaully 3 times now :rofl:


DDR2 stock supposedly has arrived in the UK.Maybe i picked up on your rumour or you on mine:ROTF: :shrug:
I've heard quad stock is in uk & have pre ordered, date is set to this coming tuesday 06/11/07 (http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=20_47&products_id=5662&osCsid=224826a8a5615d3af529c2597c338c9c) but time will tell.
Discovered a new transaction sequence with this mobo:-
Pre order & Pay, date passed , cancelled get credit , New date new pre order, you get the drift:rolleyes:

I got the Gigabyte GA X38 DQ6 to try whilst waiting for abit, am quite impressed , hope it's still under warranty when it does appear:lol:

[strange|ife]

yes VR zone says US should start too see some retail boards by the 6th. Cross your fingures.

Goin to frys tuesday, they tend to get stuff in early SOMETIMES

how you spell fingures? i dunno whatever

[Ace-a-Rue]

i think anandtech get theirs this coming week.

[TinTin]

I got mine today in Hong Kong :)

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8891/009lt8.jpg

[Harshal]

Alrite Friend, show us da numbers now :)

[dMITIj]

TinTin get going whit that mobo, start working on it ffs, we will see some stabel OC and stuff :)

[TinTin]

Alrite Friend, show us da numbers now :)

Sure, just get this new baby back home from the computer shop, will install tomorrow coz my time now is 10:00pm ;)

[dMITIj]

Sure, just get this new baby back home from the computer shop, will install tomorrow coz my time now is 10:00pm ;)
Noooooo dont go to sleep go set up your new rig :up:

[jooney]

Lucky men TinTin :up:
Tell us something about the droop with your Quad.
And some other nice things ;)

[chatmaster]

Why tease us when you not going to do anything.

[JPxM0Dz]

Looks like it's 2-3 weeks away for me ;(

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27002

[zsamz_]

Looks like it's 2-3 weeks away for me ;(

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27002


funny yesterday it was 2-5 days now 2-3 weeks :rofl:

[JPxM0Dz]

funny yesterday it was 2-5 days now 2-3 weeks :rofl:

Yeah my order says 2-5 business days

We'll see!

[Hazzan]

@TinTin : Run it !!! show us....we waiting your result with that board......

[neonflx]

Sleep!!! Who needs sleep when you have the latest board on hand and everyone needs benchies :D

[bingo13]

i think anandtech get theirs this coming week.

It's in the air, but more importantly, the BIOS is already updated. :D

[zsamz_]

Yeah my order says 2-5 business days

We'll see!

i bet you get it monday
friday if you close to ncix:)

[JPxM0Dz]

i bet you get it monday
friday if you close to ncix:)


Yeah I just noticed they updated status to In Stock Soon, This product is currently in transit from a supplier. Expect 2 to 5 days processing time when you order it. ;)

[Dazog]

It's in the air, but more importantly, the BIOS is already updated. :D

You going to supply us with these bios's

I am planning to pick this board up as soon as it hits ncix aswell to replace my problematic P5K Deluxe :/

[dinos22]

lol TinTin you tease

where are zzzz results :D

[Nosfer@tu]

Want To Know More :d

[nordien]

Seems like the Netherlands is first up this time

http://www.komplett.nl/k/ki.aspx?sku=341381

[Supershanks]

Ditto Uk
Komplett UK (http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.aspx?sku=341381)

[jooney]

Same in Germany:
http://www.komplett.de/k/ki.aspx?sku=341381
They have the same stock.
But too expensive(210,-Euro),get my from MIX in Germany before the weekend for 189,-Euros ;)
Have wait so long,this 2 days more makes no difference.

[dinos22]

that looks like 4phase digital PWM :confused: are they crazy

[Heidfirst]

iirc it's 5 phase

[Johnny Bravo]

It is indeed 5 phase

[nordien]

To bad there aren't any reviews, it's gonna be this or the Asus Maximus to replace the good old AW9D-Max.

[jooney]

TinTin where are you?
Tell us something plz ;)

[MacClipper]

I got mine today in Hong Kong :)

hi TinTin, I am going to HK tomorrow. Would love to take a look around then, which shop and price? Thx.

[Ace-a-Rue]

To bad there aren't any reviews, it's gonna be this or the Asus Maximus to replace the good old AW9D-Max.

don't discount the IP35 Pro bpard!

[dinos22]

don't discount the IP35 Pro bpard!

i wouldn't jump out of the blocks and say that board is that nice.....actually i tried a couple and found them to be :banana::banana::banana::banana:house
i wouldn't touch them that's for sure

[Ace-a-Rue]

oh man...then you are definitely in the minority!

[dinos22]

oh man...then you are definitely in the minority!

lol the boards were sooo finnicky and would not clock the ram past 1170 or so which is terrible considering they bench easily past 650 lol

too much droop and just a pain in the arse all round for me :down:

any asus or gigabyte board would wipe it all over the floor easily >> well maybe not that pos P5KC :D

[zsamz_]

to be honest i would have much rather have an abit p35 pro
even though my p35c can goto 575fsb:D
to be honest you got lucky with your x38dq6 dino cause mine was :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

[chatmaster]

Tintin whats happening? Did you really get the board? I knew you were just seeking attention.

[strange|ife]

i agree the p35 has alot of droop, more so i think than other p35 boards from thins ive read. But its stable, so i guess thats all that matters for me, i only buy a new board every year or 2 if i can help it.

[emo]

:( I got one too. In HK. Trying the FSB limit on air. Using E6550 or X6800 only 524FSB. Still trying if some setting can make it higher:confused:

[EJTREM3]

looks a little crappy

[dMITIj]

:( I got one too. In HK. Trying the FSB limit on air. Using E6550 or X6800 only 524FSB. Still trying if some setting can make it higher:confused:


looks a little crappy

It's not a bad OC, and you still have to rember its still a completely new mobo and it's first BIOS at least it's not looking to be :bananal::bananal::bananal::bananal::bananal: up lige the asus maximus have done it so far :rofl:

[Ace-a-Rue]

lol the boards were sooo finnicky and would not clock the ram past 1170 or so which is terrible considering they bench easily past 650 lol

i understand that particular problem...just some boards are more picky with dram working at specs...you know that since you have been through many boards.

crucial's ballistic PC2-8500 stuff seems to clock decently with the Pro board but i know my corsair DDR 1142 dominators won't go above DDR 1080...that is using the 9X default with a lower FSB...i then can use the 1:1.2 ratio which pushes the memory up to 540 mhz....i get the same results with my teamgroup DDR 1000 sticks...i can get them to the same frequency.


too much droop and just a pain in the arse all round for me :down:

agree, the Vdroop is a problem...i get about 0.09v droop when i P95...at idle, it is about 0.04v...BUT, on the other hand, it is a very stable board.

i think my droop is not as high because i did the heatpipe TIM mod along with using bolts and nuts to get a better clamping action


any asus or gigabyte board would wipe it all over the floor easily >> well maybe not that pos P5KC :D

i guess you didn't see Anandtech's "Gold" award for the best overall P35 board...that just came out last week sometime...SO...it has "something" going right for the board and performance.

i really do not want to change from abit mobo...you have the CMOS reset switch on the backside of the I/O panel in addition to having the Uguru chip with associated Uguru software to change voltages, FSB, Fan speed or PCIe bus speed while in windows...that is a winner in my book.:up:

[Supershanks]

The jammy *wat got his 1st abit-ix38-quadgt-living-review (http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/815-abit-ix38-quadgt-living-review.html)
he only ordered the thing yesterday:mad: :D

[Nelly]

Will be interesting to see how much vdroop this board has, also if the price tag is worth the outlay of switching from the IP35 PRO - another £50 ($100) in terms of selling 2nd hand & purchasing a new board I would have to see signifcant performance increase to justify upgrading to X38.

[Nelly]

Done one of my usual threads for the motherboard, I'll update the info as I find it:-

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165004

:)

[RLM]

Nice to see Clunk testing with a Q6600, I'm a bit tired of seeing reviews with just extreme chips.

PWM temps still seem to be a problem by the look of it, and that's outside of a case, and 1.42v.?????

I think your mounting technique (forgive the faux pas) Ace-A-Rue will certainly be needed, and a fan over that area at least.

No option visible in bios for voltage dampening or control(early bios I know). A pencil mod maybe? I see that 1.45v reads as 1.42v, so a familiar pattern emerging. Will be interesting to see the droop at load.

Some doubts, but a bit early (Or is that late Abit?) to comment.

RLM

[Ace-a-Rue]

lets hope the good times continue rolling:)

[Majoram]

Hi all,

I'm just starting to read up on this board. I am RMA'ing my Maximus for the second time and was wondering what benefits does this board have over the Maximus?

As far as I can see, it's just the Digital PWM and uGuru right?

Also what is the benefit of Digital PWM?
Just a better fine tune control of the vCore?

Please do correct me if I am wrong.

[Supershanks]

Also what is the benefit of Digital PWM? It'll keep you warm if your heating fails:lol: No seriously it gives better voltage regulation by switching the current on/off very quickly.

from Clunks impressions it seems abetter build quality than the asus max, though we've yet to see performance

luck:)

[MIS3]

Hi all,

I'm just starting to read up on this board. I am RMA'ing my Maximus for the second time and was wondering what benefits does this board have over the Maximus?
As far as I can see, it's just the Digital PWM and uGuru right?

Also what is the benefit of Digital PWM? Just a better fine tune control of the vCore?

Please do correct me if I am wrong.

So far, with the lack of review and user feedback, we do not know how good is this new board from Abit. We all expect this to be a good board because of the success of IP35. The digital PWM is supposed to fix the vdroop issue of the IP35. We will see.

Furthermore, we do not really have too many choices in X38 boardsso any new additions will be exciting news. I myself am waiting for P5E-WS but again, there is no much info on this Asus board as well.

[jcool]

I am considering to get one... wave computer germany has a few in stock as of today :)
However, 190€ is quite a lot for a mobo that is bound to be obsolete within a month, with X48 coming so soon.
Aditionally, I am quite satisfied with my old P965 QuadGT. The only improvements for me would me the ability to push my 4 gigs of D9GMH a lot further (old one is maxed out at ~950 with 4x1G) and improved QC overclocking beyond 400. I was planning to put a yorkie on it then later next year - you know, running 500x8 as 24/7 ;)
I just think I'm gonna go nuts if they release the X48 QuadGT in december...

[RLM]

So, so far 1.45v droops to 1.40v at load is that right?

CPU-Z reports 1.512v (is that an X38 thing?) Must be a c0ckup because it's reading 1.488v idle.

Going to carry on looking through Clunk's thread.

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/reviews/815-abit-ix38-quadgt-living-review.html

RLM

[dinos22]

to be honest i would have much rather have an abit p35 pro
even though my p35c can goto 575fsb:D
to be honest you got lucky with your x38dq6 dino cause mine was :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:

i've played with more than one lol and also with DDR3 versions and they are all the same to me heheh :D

[dinos22]

Ace

i think it must be the dominators and IP35 as i have not other RAM aside from a few different Dominator kits here :shrug:

[Ace-a-Rue]

right, that's my assessment!:up:

[coolice]

no vpll adjustment:(

[Supershanks]

no vpll adjustment
Looking at clunk's bios screen bios is as the IP35-Pro but:-
OC Guru
+ CPU Core Voltage Offset
ADVANCED BIOS FEATURES / CPU FEATURES:
- THERMAL CONTROL.................... - DISABLED
- LIMIT CPUID MAXVAL................. - DISABLED