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railmeat
10-03-2007, 11:05 AM
hello,
i have seen MANY amazing 9sec runs etc.but i wanna start a thread for heavily overclocked pcs that are STABLE using OCCT 60min challenge for ppl here at x\s with there conroe\kentsfield 24\7 stable overclocks for real world apps such as gaming,burning,etc.this will include any kind of cooling EXCEPT ln2 or dice(being there not 24\7 walk away cooling).ppl who can post include amazing air,water(chilled,plain)and phase ONLY plz.and before ppl ask why not dice\ln2,its because its NOT 24\7 stable.this is for the fastest REAL WORLD cpu usage rather than a quickie 9sec benchmarking screenies and thats it.while some ppl are riled up over 9 seconds of glory then not stable after that tube is empty,others in the extreme overclocking world belive it or not wanna see REAL WORLD stabilty for gaming,burning,encoding,office apps or quite frankly day to day use period.

i am NOT a benchmarker but im still a overclocker\hardcore gamer NEEDING performance from overclocking.my pc is useless if it runs 9sec in pi then cant run 8hrs of hardcore gaming sessions after that.i would never put a overclock in my sig if it was not 24\7(kinda misleading to myself).

ANYONE,any country wanna enter this FRIENDLY competion plz enter using ANY intel kentsfield\conroe cpu.this little competion gives me and my friends a real database to finally go by who want to grab new hardware and can actually run the stuff 24\7 for different normal day to day tasks at crazy speeds.again this is a STABILTY database only,Not a benchmark database(we have plenty of those around here).benchmark databases are all good and well but not for the average to lil above overclocker who needs there single pc everyday for many things besides quick numbers for others to look at.this is hopefully going to help others pick and choose there hardware when buying cpu\ram and cooling setups.i really enjoyed the 24\7 4 gig thread in here awhile back(most were on phase)but it was amazing to read and see the results.i hope the same ppl post here again.


1 rule only:
run air(any kind),water(any kind),phase(any kind) ONLY plz. :D

get occt test below-this test is VERY brutal and if u have a hairy o\c i would not try this test
http://www.ocbase.com/


60 minutes of your time,thats it!!screenies plz AFTER its completed including
2 x cpuz + core temp in 1 shot.

OCCT test Option test level set to HI---cpu or cpu+ram 60 min minumum.

i will start off with my 24\7 gaming setup with regular old water on a e6600.
i run 10 gigs of ddr2 ram but mainly use 4 gigs gskill 6400hz or my ocz sli 2 gig sli kit.




60min
e6600 at 3.6ghz 400x9 -4 gigs gskill 6400hz ddr800 4\4\4\12 2.0volts(yes 2v)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/3.6occt1hourHItest.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/3.6occt1hourHItest.jpg


games i play during the week on this rig as above include

bf2(sf,dc,pr,eu=all mods)<--demanding
bf2 2142<--demanding
half life2<--demanding
enemy terrotory quake wars mp demo <-very demanding
quake3 rocket arena
quake4 <-demanding on ultra hi setting

by ppl posting here this is helping me buy my new gaming cpu chip with a SOLID decesion.im thinking q6600 i just wanna see more STABLE q6600 clocks plz.
thank you for all who post.plz no bashing,lets keep it friendly :)

Circaflex
10-03-2007, 11:39 AM
my e6600 in sig runs at that speed 24/7 when im not needing my comp ill take a ss but i ran prime for about 30 hours and needed the comp back.

greek420
10-03-2007, 11:45 AM
:shakes: :shakes: :shakes: :shakes: :shrug:
hello,
i have seen MANY amazing 9sec runs etc.but i wanna start a thread for heavily overclocked pcs that are STABLE using OCCT 60min challenge for ppl here at x\s with there conroe\kentsfield 24\7 stable overclocks for real world apps such as gaming,burning,etc.this will include any kind of cooling EXCEPT ln2 or dice(being there not 24\7 walk away cooling).ppl who can post include amazing air,water(chilled,plain)and phase ONLY plz.and before ppl ask why not dice\ln2,its because its NOT 24\7 stable.this is for the fastest REAL WORLD cpu usage rather than a quickie 9sec benchmarking screenies and thats it.while some ppl are riled up over 9 seconds of glory then not stable after that tube is empty,others in the extreme overclocking world belive it or not wanna see REAL WORLD stabilty for gaming,burning,encoding,office apps or quite frankly day to day use period.

i am NOT a benchmarker but im still a overclocker.my pc is useless if it runs 9sec in pi then cant run 8hrs of hardcore gaming sessions after that.i would never put a overclock in my sig if it was not 24\7(kinda misleading to myself).

ANYONE,any country wanna enter this FRIENDLY competion plz enter using ANY intel kentsfield\conroe cpu.this little competion gives me and my friends a real database to finally go by who want to grab new hardware and can actually run the stuff 24\7 for different normal day to day tasks at crazy speeds.again this is a STABILTY database only,Not a benchmark database(we have plenty of those around here).benchmark databases are all good and well but not for the average to lil above overclocker who needs there single pc everyday for many things besides quick numbers for others to look at.this is hopefully going to help others pick and choose there hardware when buying cpu\ram and cooling setups.i really enjoyed the 24\7 4 gig thread in here awhile back(most were on phase)but it was amazing to read and see the results.i hope the same ppl post here again.


1 rule only:
run air(any kind),water(any kind),phase(any kind) ONLY plz. :D

get occt test below-this test is VERY brutal and if u have a hairy o\c i would not try this test
http://www.ocbase.com/


60 minutes of your time,thats it!!screenies plz AFTER its completed including
2 x cpuz + core temp in 1 shot.

OCCT test Option test level set to HI---cpu or cpu+ram 60 min minumum.

i will start off with my 24\7 gaming setup with regular old water on a e6600.
i run 10 gigs of ddr2 ram but mainly use 4 gigs gskill 6400hz or my ocz sli 2 gig sli kit.


90min
e6600 at 3.6ghz 400x9 --2 gigs ocz sli 1066 ram @ ddr800 4\3\3\10 2.2volts

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/361.30minstableoczram.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/361.30minstableoczram.jpg


60min
e6600 at 3.6ghz 400x9 -4 gigs gskill 6400hz ddr800 4\4\4\12 2.0volts(yes 2v)
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/3.6occt1hourHItest.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/3.6occt1hourHItest.jpg

by ppl posting here this is helping me buy my new cpu chip with a SOLID decesion.
thank you for all who post.plz no bashing:)


finally someone not affraid to want realworld stab, not 1 min runs or less. i have nothing against the guys that just run suicide runs, but come on!!!!!!!!:rofl: what good is spendin $ if u cant use it all day long? :confused: :confused: again if that is ur thing cool.
but im sick of readin i got this or i got that with settings that are impossible (3.6 @ 1.3500 vlts, 3.7 @ 1.4 to 1.45, or my fav 3.9 @ under 1.5 vlts) and i state are not hapening in the real world on air, a q6600 go is a great chip, i own 1. thats how i can say what i say
now dodn't get me wrong with the proper cooling, and i mean prop not air or even good water. i mean some kind of extreme cooling is needed to run those crazzy low volts that people are postin 4 the go stp 6600:down::shrug: :shakes:

i'll be back with some real world volts and temps on water. plain old room tmp water :up: :up: :up:

to correct one thing that i typed when i said i got this or that . 3.6 on air with 1.3 volts or all the inbetweenfrom 1.3 to under 1.4250 is impossible to get it to run prime ,occt, or even 3d mrk tests will fail with such low volts on air, again will fail.
you need a min of 1.45 & up to start stabilizing 3.6 otherwise u are kiddin urself to even try to say u are stable, not goin to happen. if u say otherwise i have to agree with the guy who stared the thread, post some pics with prime, occt

railmeat
10-03-2007, 01:26 PM
:shakes: :shakes: :shakes: :shakes: :shrug:


finally someone not affraid to want realworld stab, not 1 min runs or less. i have nothing against the guys that just run suicide runs, but come on!!!!!!!!:rofl: what good is spendin $ if u cant use it all day long? :confused: :confused: again if that is ur thing cool.
but im sick of readin i got this or i got that with settings that are impossible (3.6 @ 1.3500 vlts, 3.7 @ 1.4 to 1.45, or my fav 3.9 @ under 1.5 vlts) and i state are not hapening in the real world on air, a q6600 go is a great chip, i own 1. thats how i can say what i say
now dodn't get me wrong with the proper cooling, and i mean prop not air or even good water. i mean some kind of extreme cooling is needed to run those crazzy low volts that people are postin 4 the go stp 6600:down::shrug: :shakes:

i'll be back with some real world volts and temps on water. plain old room tmp water :up: :up: :up:

to correct one thing that i typed when i said i got this or that . 3.6 on air with 1.3 volts or all the inbetweenfrom 1.3 to under 1.4250 is impossible to get it to run prime ,occt, or even 3d mrk tests will fail with such low volts on air, again will fail.
you need a min of 1.45 & up to start stabilizing 3.6 otherwise u are kiddin urself to even try to say u are stable, not goin to happen. if u say otherwise i have to agree with the guy who stared the thread, post some pics with prime, occt

please post screenies of that q6600(chip i want!)running fast and STABLE..
q6600 at nice speeds should push my 8800gtx nicely in crysis thats quad core optimized. lets not forget ut2007,enemy terrotory quake wars,cod4,and many other cpu dependent games are out in 1 month.are u 3.6ghz stable?if so sounds purfect for me.ty very much.

im not shocked alot of ppl are not posting back here with solid screenies for me(alot of strictly benchers here seems like).i am glad to see &#37;94 of ppl who voted wanted speed and stabilty,was starting to think only 9 sec runs were what ppl cared about vs speed and stability.i mean some ppl actually use there computers for things besides pumping out some quick numbers in tests.im looking into phase cause its maitence free(for the most part) and AMAZING clocks that can be 24\7 stable when gaming etc.

cant take looking at max unstable screenies in sigs seriuos when buying a new cpu chip with ppl running ln2,dice etc(not realistic).anybody can get high clocks for a few seconds,some faster then others going to extremes.but not to many can get fast and stable setups still being able to use the thing without it melting.the best thread i EVER seen in my life was here(cant find it)was 4 ghz stable phased rigs.

Cracker
10-03-2007, 01:57 PM
My E6400 runs at 3.6GHz very stable but it and my motherboard generate far too much heat for me to feel comfortable with it (literally, it makes my room too hot) at this setting 24/7.

I could run water cooling although the extra heat would still need to be removed. :shakes: Not to mention the difference between 3.6 and 3.2 is only perceptible in benchmarks and I use my computer for a lot more than just benchmarks.

And so I run at 3.2GHz stable nice and cool 24/7. :)

karateo
10-03-2007, 02:01 PM
E6300@3500 with only 1.35v
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62620&d=1186523872

stability counts much more than speed for me.
well, in fact a stable system is always faster than an unstable one ;)

railmeat
10-03-2007, 02:08 PM
E6300@3500 with only 1.35v
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62620&d=1186523872

stability counts much more than speed for me.
well, in fact a stable system is always faster than an unstable one ;)

wow what cooling,simply amazing for a 24\7 overclock on a 6300 :eek:

@karateo
"stability counts much more than speed for me.
well, in fact a stable system is always faster than an unstable one"

ya speed for a few seconds is worthless if im flying a jet doing mach2 bombing ppl and my pc shuts off,lol agree


@craker
"Not to mention the difference between 3.6 and 3.2 is only perceptible in benchmarks and I use my computer for a lot more than just benchmarks."


ya me too... but alot of ppl just try and get super low pi numbers:confused:
i use my pc for multiple things as well and it MUST be fast and STABLE.
agree &#37;110

i like low temps hi clocks too
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/current36temps.jpg

anyone have the link to the 4ghz stable conroe rig thread here at x\s?cant find it..

its so hard to find a thread(hopefully here)when new cpus come out and ppl can relate to them speed wise without going for mindblistering speeds for a few seconds by pouring ln2\dice on em.that dont help mainstream clockers see what they can run 24\7 on em if there in the market,only shows insane celing height for a few seconds.were some ppl actually use there pcs for other stuff besides impessive quickie numbers for others to gaze it.i cant make relaistic buying decesions off that..there is such a thing as Extreme Stable overclocks.

nullface
10-03-2007, 03:01 PM
<3 Crysis Beta = Need stability ;)

railmeat
10-03-2007, 03:35 PM
<3 Crysis Beta = Need stability ;)

"stability"

would u belive some ppl dont actually know what that word means...:shakes:

hersounds
10-03-2007, 04:32 PM
E4300 Q644 stepping - only air cooling by scythe ninja rev.B

3.0 GHz

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9329/finalre8.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finalre8.jpg)

3.5 GHz ( testing)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4255/testingrocksolidocctstaze0.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testingrocksolidocctstaze0.jpg)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6043/151minutosorthoskn0sx7.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=151minutosorthoskn0sx7.jpg)

railmeat
10-03-2007, 06:16 PM
E4300 Q644 stepping - only air cooling by scythe ninja rev.B

3.0 GHz

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9329/finalre8.th.jpg (http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=finalre8.jpg)

3.5 GHz ( testing)

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4255/testingrocksolidocctstaze0.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testingrocksolidocctstaze0.jpg)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6043/151minutosorthoskn0sx7.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=151minutosorthoskn0sx7.jpg)


i would like to thank hersounds and karateo for giving me 60 min of there time and posting the 1 screenie i wanted.i am deeply disappointed in the lack of screenies i thought i would have recieved from others who viewed,voted and read this thread.i now see that super pi times and other quick benchmarks are the standerd of the overclocking world .mabye others would have liked to post but did not want to voice there opinions on this subject with there peers watching.regardless of screenies or lack of i see that the real world overlocks are only backed by some words and some quiet voiceless votes.

it really doesnt matter to me at this point,i reached out and tried to grasp some of the solid facts of the overclocks i see in ppl,s sigs everyday only to see nothing except there max o\c screenie.i thought this thread could have been much more for others to come in and look at rock solid extreme pcs so when buying decesions came with cpu chips\ram\and cooling this could have been a real baseline.but i must face the facts what ppl favor is extreme everyday pcs running ln2\dice pcs vs 24\7 solid overclocks.see in my day of overclocking a p\c that was considerd extreme for some was stable and fast for all apps without the hint of instability.but i see in this day and age its all about how fast it runs in a TINY benchmark. while turning that same 9sec pc down to lower speeds for other apps to run without failing behind closed doors.tthis thread was a failure,i thought more ppl would speak up and say there mind on stabilty and games\apps.but no...who can run spi faster then the next guy is the form of stabilty and competetion,sorry but that does not help nor impress me anymore being everyone seems to be simply grabbing a pot and screaming voltage to a chip for a few seconds of glory....9 seconds are cool but does nothing for me being i only have 1 pc and cant afford something frying on a quickie test.i need my pc and wanted a few real world baselines.i thought the mainiacs would step up to the plate and gimmie something to look at besides quickie max o\c screenies....guess not.

and btw 3dmarks are not GAMES,there benchmarks.

thanks anyway all..........from the poll i see &#37;89.29 of ppl agree with me,i guess thats good enough

times have changed immensely in the theory of mainstream overclockers.:( screw stabilty just grab a cpu chip,a pot and your a hero.

jimmyz
10-03-2007, 07:46 PM
here is 4.2 i'll run it again tomorrow when i got more time. this is saved as my gaming setting in bios.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5198/42vf7.png


e6600 l630a @1.4500 set in bios
dfi lp ut p35 t2r with bios 913
4x512mb crucial ballistix tracer @ auto settings
hd2900xt 512mb. (not that it matters here)
Vapoli ss.phase unit. (v2000 closed case)

railmeat
10-03-2007, 08:04 PM
here is 4.2 i'll run it again tomorrow when i got more time. this is saved as my gaming setting in bios.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/5198/42vf7.png


e6600 l630a @1.4500 set in bios
dfi lp ut p35 t2r with bios 913
4x512mb crucial ballistix tracer @ auto settings
hd2900xt 512mb. (not that it matters here)
Vapoli ss.phase unit. (v2000 closed case)

wow !!!!!!!! ty jimmy,incredible box u got there on phase,so thats maietence free insane overclocks 24\7....467x9 w 1.45!again ty jim.this is all i wanted from ppl.:up:these are REAListic overclocks because they can be used for more then 9sec..

keep em coming ppl. all 3.2 - 4.0ghz+ stable screenies welcome =)

karateo
10-03-2007, 11:14 PM
wow what cooling,simply amazing for a 24\7 overclock on a 6300 :eek:


watercooling
radiator from ford transit with 2x120 fans, set at lowest possible speed

the equipment is three years old

and here you can find some pics
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2465870&postcount=5238

railmeat
10-03-2007, 11:38 PM
watercooling
radiator from ford transit with 2x120 fans, set at lowest possible speed

the equipment is three years old

and here you can find some pics
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2465870&postcount=5238


heres mine,my water been around too bout 3-4 years -4 amds,4 intels\ water specs-3x120mm rad,inside stainless steel case,danger den p655 pump 1\2 tygon,dd blocks,dd res.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/bf2nut4-2.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/bf2nut-1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/bf2nut3-3.jpg
custom welded alumn ram cooler bracket 40mmx2 fans
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/ramcooler.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/bf2nut8.jpg
8800gtx 2x120mm + 180mm air cooled
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/bf2nut6-1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/gotcooling.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/IMG_1444.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/rad-1.jpg

old opty 165(2.8x2),7950gx2,4 gigs ocz plat,dfi ultra
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/bf2nuts7950.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/close.jpg

old 3700sd(2.8),7900gtx on water,dfi ultra,4 gigs ocz plat
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/7900gtx3700sd.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/purty.jpg

http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/?action=view&current=IMG_1461.jpg

bad ram!
http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/?action=view&current=comingoff.jpg

http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/?action=view&current=CAC5QB8L.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/trashram.jpg

g@m3r 4 l1f3!

Bigchrome
10-04-2007, 07:51 AM
Great Idea for a thread! I really want t see some insane stable OC's! IE 4.5ghz for an hour OCCT would be SWEET.

vengance_01
10-04-2007, 08:34 AM
I have just put together a new Quad using an Abit Quad GT. I run for 24/7 at 333*9. Perfect FSB, memory divider, and keeps my heat very low. This new rig already heats up my room quite a bit. Stabilty over speed any day. A 3.0GHZ Quad is plenty for me:)

railmeat
10-04-2007, 01:07 PM
Great Idea for a thread! I really want t see some insane stable OC's! IE 4.5ghz for an hour OCCT would be SWEET.


yes!...screenies plz ppl:up:
foget the max o\c screenshots,ANYONE with a tube and 10ten seconds can show that:rolleyes:.what good is that if its gonna melt booting into windows and cant be used for anything:shakes: ?..scr33nies!!

its only 60min of your time ppl.i thought more ppl were extreme here? screenies 60min occt hi priortory test plz! max overclocks in sigs mean nothing to me, anyone can get those...



a ford escort can run the quarter mile in 13.5 seconds with nitrous then slowly blow up after a few runs.

a ford mustang cobra can run 13.5 slightly modified and run great all around town...

Eldonko
10-04-2007, 01:12 PM
Xtreme stability systems = zzzzzz! :D ;)

TheSamurai
10-04-2007, 01:23 PM
hey railmeat, what do you think of max OC's that aren't stable in windows for more then 5 mintues?

railmeat
10-04-2007, 01:46 PM
hey railmeat, what do you think of max OC's that aren't stable in windows for more then 5 mintues?


there junk:shakes: ...good for nothing except impressing a bunch of dudes across the world for who knows what reason(hey im bored,look at me and this!?!?).i have a smoking hot g\f and even tho i like u guys im not going to waste time pushing numbers to impress any dudes,pointless.i read about hardware here and learn from ppl who overclock running stable rigs.wether or not there 24\7 on phase at 4.0ghz+ or 3.8 on water,there stable and there relaistic for 24\7 use.not into sending my expensive pc parts into the graveyard to impres others,laff..why would i?if i had a sponser and endless hours to stare at a screen for some unstable number screenies being paid for it...mabye yes then.

that same o\c your talking about is worthless,because your admitting its so unstable it cant run anything except a quickie 30 second of glory benchmark(for what?).
to many ppl grab tubes these days and are overnight heros hoping to be respected by others with a combustable pc .the 9.8 sec in pi is NOT going to help my overlock in ANY means except that i know what max voltage is and would never EVER use 24\7 while my heavily overclocked pc is running games,apps,etc FLAWLESSLY..your setup would flat out crash\freeze\bsod...sounds like fun to me:shrug:



i used to like were there was only a hanfull of tubers to check out what they did all month for 30 seconds then close the thread,did nothing for me but funny to watch.now everybody and there mother wants to be in the spotlight.


LOOK in the poll i started &#37;87.88 of ppl(your peers) agree speed and STABILTY are #1 dude.....numbers dont lie.argue with 58 other ppl who feel the same way i do period,%88!!.


@ eldonko"Xtreme stability systems = zzzzzz!"

ya..lemme pour some ln2 on my e66600 that runs flawlessly without a hitch only to ramp up the voltage and numbers and smoke something,will u sleep better then?


*********CHALLENGE for eldonko*******;) your amazing pc and years of o\c should do above 3.6ghz 60min np.
i wanna see your 24\7 screenie eldonko at 24\7 stable mines only at 3.6 stable im sure u can do better(beat mine),lets see...waiting....59minutes and counting.occt test dl link in post #1 for ya.:)

TheSamurai
10-04-2007, 05:02 PM
lol, you're funny. my statement was purely to egg you on. i have to say, i agree with you... i'm not as hardcore about my opinion as you, but i do agree. :D

jimmyz
10-04-2007, 05:38 PM
I think the op has a valid point about stability being the most important factor in a overclock .If you are using it 24/7. however..... this IS Xtremesystems after all, and pushing the envelope is what it is about here. I can almost guarantee the biggest benchers here have vastly different settings for 24/7 than the "one time"runs or the 9 sec.s of pi.
I can bench most 3-d benches @ 4600 but the heatload would be too much for my phase to keep up with for a long stability test. 4500 is "game stable" meaning with the exception of occt or orthos it never has any kind of stability issues. i use my pc constantly. the same rig i bench is the one i surf with it is fully cased 3 hard drives ,tv tuner ,printer , card reader, webcam...etc.

Eldonko
10-04-2007, 05:55 PM
Heres is your 4gb 3.6g test you wanted, its what I run 24/7 for months anyway so no big deal, enjoy.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2536/occt36001je5.jpg

Takes minor knowledge or skill to run stability ocs, hence why we bench. If you have a better chip and know what you are doing, you have a better 24/7 oc, simple as that. At XS most people dont care what speed you play your games at. The real skill is in optimizing every piece of hardware at once, customizing the system for each bench, searching for the top clocking hardware and going through loads of it, voltage mods and figuring them out, running every different os to find that ms, etc.

People take it seriously whether it to be to try for that WR or a personal best so I dont see how you can downplay extreme benching saying stability testing is the true skill. That's simply BS.

Here is a challenge for you now. I ran this 1M, few tweaks, nothing serious and there are MUCH faster runs out there. Keep your clocks within 3610 and run one faster.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2006/p5kc5cn9.jpg

T_M
10-04-2007, 08:06 PM
I find the originator of this thread annoyingly ammusing.

#1 - you come across as one of those 13 yr olds i used to play COD against, whose every word was 1337 speak BS.
#2 - you seem to be insulting those of us who consider benching to be most important
#3 - i dont appreciate being PM'd because of my response to a poll that didnt agree with yours. Anything you have to say on the topic could have been said here for all to see.

g@m3r 4 l1f3! = 13 yr old gaymer

Oh and with respect to your challenge, 3.6GHz is a walk in the park especially on water and C2D. But im sorry i dont want to waste hours of my time (yes, more than 1 because ill have to test many speeds) proving something that to me is pointless (i dont need a "stable" system)

T_M
10-04-2007, 08:17 PM
r41Lm347:
so u just run benchmarks?u dont overclok your pc and actually use it for games or apps(fun stuff)?u have to turn it down im sure to run anything besides benchmarks to show ppl screenies..

T_M:
I overclock to benchmark, and i surf the net.
Thats all i do.
I used to game competatively back in the s939 days, with my OC rig, but these day my precious little time is spent benching. To me that is fun stuff so i think you should be careful what you say about other peoples hobbies ;)

r41Lm347:
amazing hobby :shrug:

T_M:
How does it differ from gaming?
Sitting at a computer, testing your skill against others, taking enjoyment from what you are doing, testing new techniques and sharing your knowledge, accomplishing personal targets..... the list goes on.

Can you please take this to your thread, not PM

railmeat
10-04-2007, 08:22 PM
Heres is your 4gb 3.6g test you wanted, its what I run 24/7 for months anyway so no big deal, enjoy.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2536/occt36001je5.jpg

Takes minor knowledge or skill to run stability ocs, hence why we bench. If you have a better chip and know what you are doing, you have a better 24/7 oc, simple as that. At XS most people dont care what speed you play your games at. The real skill is in optimizing every piece of hardware at once, customizing the system for each bench, searching for the top clocking hardware and going through loads of it, voltage mods and figuring them out, running every different os to find that ms, etc.

People take it seriously whether it to be to try for that WR or a personal best so I dont see how you can downplay extreme benching saying stability testing is the true skill. That's simply BS.

Here is a challenge for you now. I ran this 1M, few tweaks, nothing serious and there are MUCH faster runs out there. Keep your clocks within 3610 and run one faster.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2006/p5kc5cn9.jpg

"Takes minor knowledge or skill to run stability ocs, hence why we bench."

minor knowledge ??ok get 4ghz 24\7 stable then?til then theres nothing minor about it or your chip cant do it .
or mabye your 24\7 cooling wont keep up with 4 gig stable but a quickie fill with a tube for that is "pro level" then i guess.if my current water or future phase unit cant do it stable im not gonna poor ln2 on it,lol.


"so I dont see how you can downplay extreme benching saying stability testing is the true skill. That's simply BS."

again dude wack 4ghz 24\7 stable,if not then your skill level is the same as mine at both 3.6ghz(me,u).and i dont live to overclock,i set it,stabilize and actually use it for MANY things.i honestly thought u could have wacked atlest 3.8-4ghz stable for me compared to my "minor knowledge" 3.6 clock. but you probaly dumped a ton of ln2 on your 3.6 run anyway(i would never know)as i run mere water and its flawless with my minor skill level.i got my o\c in 1-2 days without even trying to be honest.i just needed more ppl to post there chips at thee highest o\c possible on not without using"refillable cooling"thats not realistic for a real 24\7 stable rig.air,water,phaseprove there valor to make your 24\7 rig very fast and STABLE.there was a thread with some guys running conroes at 4ghz stable 24\7 rigs(lost the thread).anyway it was simply amazing to see such performance and actually being to use and harness the power with 0 maitence.

anyway eldonko thats a nice 24\7 stable o\c u got there....assuming done on air,water,or phase.

@ T_M
i had a question privately for your point of view,you wanna post it public here np,sorry to hear your mailbox is to full and felt the need to bring it here...w\e.any screenies of stable clocks.o ya stabilty aint your thing ,sorry.if not a quickie screenie of a tube run wont impress in this particular thread base.

railmeat
10-04-2007, 08:31 PM
I find the originator of this thread annoyingly ammusing.

#1 - you come across as one of those 13 yr olds i used to play COD against, whose every word was 1337 speak BS.
#2 - you seem to be insulting those of us who consider benching to be most important
#3 - i dont appreciate being PM'd because of my response to a poll that didnt agree with yours. Anything you have to say on the topic could have been said here for all to see.

g@m3r 4 l1f3! = 13 yr old gaymer

Oh and with respect to your challenge, 3.6GHz is a walk in the park especially on water and C2D. But im sorry i dont want to waste hours of my time (yes, more than 1 because ill have to test many speeds) proving something that to me is pointless (i dont need a "stable" system)

"#3 - i dont appreciate being PM'd because of my response to a poll that didnt agree with yours"

i privately asked your point of view and reason thats all,pour some ln2 on your head and cool down man.i know why u brought my pm here,for others to agree with you and attack me by defending u or something.i wanted to know why you only benchmark nothing more.RELAX,thats why it was a pm oringinally...im the 13 yr old?hmmm &#37;88 of ppl(your peers)agreed with my same mindset in the poll,.attack 69other ppl in here who think stabilty and speed are #1.there only opinions,hence a poll.but the majority says a stable pc is #1..no biggie.



"(i dont need a "stable" system)"

:shrug: ya who needs stabilty,hence the thread,sorry but gotta laff.:clap: me and %87 of ppl HERE see different.to each there own i suppose but seems there is a such thing as a EXTREME stable system by the votes counted.

man cant we just have 1 thread for extreme stable conroes etc..when i get phase so0n i can go to 4ghz.my 3.6 on water is pleasing for now cause its stable.after say 4 gig on phase is stable i wont need any higher cause then i would have to fill it up every 5 min for faster...blahhh but then 45nm will perform higher on phase with 0 maitence.cant wait

greek420
10-04-2007, 09:19 PM
just did some messin around with volts for what i concider stable. now mind u stable is more that just 10 sec..........:D . stable 4 me is min of one hr prime or occt followed by all the 3dmarks back to back for two hours some super pi and gaming for hours at a time:) :D :rofl: :welcome: ...................

[/IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/yiacas420/35idletmps.jpgIMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/yiacas420/361m32msppi-1.jpg[/IMG]

both of these prime, 3dmark 2+ hrs, and hours of gamin. without stabillity you have nothing except a meltdown waiting to happen. is it true????????????:shrug: that all benchmarkers have stock in tylenol:ROTF: for the headpounding after u fry power mosf:eek: 1.7 +vlts:shocked: ram cooked at 2.6 to 4.1 volts:clap: :clap: ...................if thats ur thing god bless u all:up: :up: i just can not justify throwing $$$$$$$$$ away for one hell of a glory run. again that is just my opp, if that is ur thing more power to u:up: :up:

greek420
10-04-2007, 09:48 PM
to railmeat:clap: love the set up :banana::banana::banana::banana: looks good bro and it looks like it is set up nice:clap::clap: for all day use, again good job:up: do not lett anybody tell u diff that is a nice oc :clap: :clap: i read that u were wondering about a quad 6600 go:D well here u go bro at 3.6http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/yiacas420/untitled.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd167/yiacas420/06scores.jpg
here is my q6600 go @ 3.6 1.5 volts vcore
biostar 965
8800 gtx with no overclock on vid card
2 gigs flex ocz @ 800 4-4-4-12
rap 150 hd
enermax 1000 psu
custom built watercooling in stacker 830

greek420
10-04-2007, 10:08 PM
My E6400 runs at 3.6GHz very stable but it and my motherboard generate far too much heat for me to feel comfortable with it (literally, it makes my room too hot) at this setting 24/7.

I could run water cooling although the extra heat would still need to be removed. :shakes: Not to mention the difference between 3.6 and 3.2 is only perceptible in benchmarks and I use my computer for a lot more than just benchmarks.

And so I run at 3.2GHz stable nice and cool 24/7. :)

thats the truth :clap: :clap: both are nice oc .. u hit the nail on the head:up: unless u use extreme cooling it does not matter how cold the cpu is if the rest of ure parts are on fire and faling:) :D :cool:
i have had many stable oc tested with my 6800 3.3 on stk vlts. 3.5 @ 1.35, 3.6 @ 1.42, and 3.7 @ 1.45:up: i even tested 3.8,3.9, and 4 gig:D :D :D ...
but like u said heat plays a major part in what i consider to be a safe 24/7 oc,
because it does not matter how good ur water or air is if the amb room temp is high ur temps will all be high:shrug:
bro great oc and enjoy that rig u have and do not let anybody tell u otherwise

T_M
10-04-2007, 10:10 PM
minor knowledge ??ok get 4ghz 24\7 stable then?til then theres nothing minor about it or your chip cant do it .
or mabye your 24\7 cooling wont keep up with 4 gig stable but a quickie fill with a tube for that is "pro level" then i guess.if my current water or future phase unit cant do it stable im not gonna poor ln2 on it,lol.

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=643594
On air "lol"
(and yes, i'm prepared to be told that wPrime 1024M isn't 24/7 aka "1 hour OCCT stable", but it doesnt take much imagination to think what my 1hr OCCT clock might be ;))


your skill level is the same as mine

I dont think there's much threat of that.
Besides, Eldonko probably set it at 3.6GHz first pop just to show you how easy it was.


im the 13 yr old?hmmm %88 of ppl(your peers)agreed with my same mindset in the poll,.attack 69other ppl in here who think stabilty and speed are #1

I never said anything about the thread topic reminding me of a 13 yr old. Just you.

railmeat
10-04-2007, 10:15 PM
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=643594
On air "lol"
(and yes, i'm prepared to be told that wPrime 1024M isn't 24/7 aka "1 hour OCCT stable", but it doesnt take much imagination to think what my 1hr OCCT clock might be ;))



I dont think there's much threat of that.
Besides, Eldonko probably set it at 3.6GHz first pop just to show you how easy it was.



I never said anything about the thread topic reminding me of a 13 yr oldJust you.

plz dont call me a 13yr old(name calling is for 13yr olds) back on subject now...u got a occt run to post?


eldonko,heres a quickie pi run at 3.7...for 3.8-4.0ghz+ i need phase for comfortable temps\volts....so0n
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/bf2nut/quickpirun.jpg

greek420
10-04-2007, 10:22 PM
E6300@3500 with only 1.35v
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62620&d=1186523872

stability counts much more than speed for me.
well, in fact a stable system is always faster than an unstable one ;)

great setup:up: :clap: :up: that is a nice overclock i hope u r enjoying that set up.:D :D :D my quad 6600 has 3.6 @ 9 x400 and 3.5 @ 8 x 438 tested:D but i like to run mine at 3.33 for the simple reason a lot less volts and stress on all the parts. great voltz by the way c2d were all nice on volts for stab. keep up the good work:D :up: :clap:

greek420
10-04-2007, 10:39 PM
this is for all the pros:shakes: :shrug: :shakes: like i said before if electifying ur stuf is ur thing :clap: :clap: :clap: good for u more power to u :D just remember alot of these kids take a lot of pride in there rigs and read all the threads on this site for help, because of what people like u and i write and show our pics , so let them know that xtreme oc is not for everyone and we shouldn't put people down if they dont hit 4.0 to 7gig stable...........:mad: :mad: o i forgot who cares if is stable:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: just kill your parts and go buy more and do it again:clap: :clap: :clap:

railmeat
10-04-2007, 11:07 PM
this is for all the pros:shakes: :shrug: :shakes: like i said before if electifying ur stuf is ur thing :clap: :clap: :clap: good for u more power to u :D just remember alot of these kids take a lot of pride in there rigs and read all the threads on this site for help, because of what people like u and i write and show our pics , so let them know that xtreme oc is not for everyone and we shouldn't put people down if they dont hit 4.0 to 7gig stable...........:mad: :mad: o i forgot who cares if is stable:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: just kill your parts and go buy more and do it again:clap: :clap: :clap:


lol,"electifying ur stuf"lol :D

looks like u got a real nice setup there.q6600 at 3.6 24\7 is real nice.this thread actually serverd its purpose i think now because after seeing your almost Identical setup as me and wack 13k in 3dmark06 score with a stock 8800gtx im gonna grab a q6600 if the amd quads dont show any better results.thanks for your screenies.this is pretty much all i wanted.i know these chips go alot higher by pouring ln2\dice on em,but unfortunatly there not stable 1 bit so to me there useless.as were that q6600 at 3.6 is looking really rock solid,again ty.:up:

i really would have liked to seen the 24\7 phase guys post here as well,cause this winter i think im in the market for a phase setup and would have liked to see some good STABLE baselines for everyday monsters,or i might just chill my water a lil bit.

im also very shocked to see &#37;87 of ppl would rather have a stable and fast pc over a mindblistering tubed temporary setup.hmm nice results in the poll that i will never forget,the names and numbers dont lie about how ppl really feel.

benchzoner:
u voted twice in 2 totally seperate options,lol?dont matter u still chose stable and fast as 1 of your 2,heh.

Northwood
10-05-2007, 12:08 AM
no time to take screenie (work soon) but e6750 @ 3.8Ghz is stable on water for 60 mins.

hersounds
10-05-2007, 03:31 AM
well this time E4300 with custom (1h) OCCT

* is air cooling and here in Bs. As ( argentina ) is the f---ing spring and the temps sucks! :down:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5761/occt1horaxg9.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=occt1horaxg9.jpg)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4770/hersounds3500establetg8.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hersounds3500establetg8.jpg)

Orthos

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8291/orthos6oe6.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthos6oe6.jpg)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8376/orthos7sr9.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthos7sr9.jpg)

railmeat
10-05-2007, 09:13 AM
well this time E4300 with custom (1h) OCCT

* is air cooling and here in Bs. As ( argentina ) is the f---ing spring and the temps sucks! :down:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5761/occt1horaxg9.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=occt1horaxg9.jpg)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4770/hersounds3500establetg8.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hersounds3500establetg8.jpg)

Orthos

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8291/orthos6oe6.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthos6oe6.jpg)

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8376/orthos7sr9.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthos7sr9.jpg)

hersounds,thats a VERY good e4300 @ 3.5 :up: :yepp:


@northwo0d!!

can,t wait to see your e6750 @ 3.8Ghz stable on water 60 mins screenies:up:

thread back on baseline,ty... ppl still voting in the polls and i see "stabilty AND speed are #1" votes are at &#37;89.36, very interesting.

day187
10-05-2007, 09:46 AM
Been running 3.8Ghz for a 3-4 weeks with no probs at all.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4452/priming4hoursbl7.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=priming4hoursbl7.jpg)

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5576/38stablewt5.jpg
By day187 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/day187)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/371/primingin8.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=primingin8.jpg)

railmeat
10-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Been running 3.8Ghz for a 3-4 weeks with no probs at all.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4452/priming4hoursbl7.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=priming4hoursbl7.jpg)

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5576/38stablewt5.jpg
By day187 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/day187)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/371/primingin8.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=primingin8.jpg)


back on topic(nice)....dude that is awesome!! 3.8x4 24\7 wo0t!!i see your running water!!

an0nym0us
10-05-2007, 08:46 PM
wow !!!!!!!! ty jimmy,incredible box u got there on phase,so thats maietence free insane overclocks 24\7....467x9 w 1.45!again ty jim.this is all i wanted from ppl.:up:these are REAListic overclocks because they can be used for more then 9sec..

keep em coming ppl. all 3.2 - 4.0ghz+ stable screenies welcome =)

i have no screenies, but my E6300 was stable 3.36ghz (480x7) and my current E6400 is stable at 3.52ghz (440x8) both 24/7 100% load on both cores (i crunch with XS WCG.)

Fujimitsu
10-06-2007, 07:21 AM
Since when was everyone on this forum 15? jesus stop with the trolling and speak english.

Been running my e6300 @ 3.58 for months now on a zalman 9500, I'll run occt when I get home I usually use Orthos.

The_Beast
10-06-2007, 08:32 AM
stabilty AND speed are #1

railmeat
10-06-2007, 10:23 AM
stabilty AND speed are #1

yes agree %1,000,quick benchies are cool and all but not relaistic.speed is nothing without reliable stabilty:shakes: :shrug: .%89 of ppl of agree with you :up:

STEvil
10-06-2007, 11:56 AM
I like to watch both the 24 Hour Le Mans, the Dakar, and Top Fuel/Funny Cars..

Among many other off road racing types/races as well...

As such, learning to see the worth behind both a real stability program (Distributed Computing, World Community Grid specifically for me) and real tests of man & machine (S-Pi, 3Dmark) is not hard.

Both are tests which one person or another may find more appealing than another and calling one less than another only shows ignorance to the knowledge of what one must do to perform well in one or the other.


Please watch your language railmeat.

Vapor
10-06-2007, 01:13 PM
Railmeat....I'd also like to extend my hand and say, "Welcome to the club."

You're the only member of said club and the advantages of being in the club are that you're officially warned to stop trolling. The thread is an obvious attempt to stir the pot.

I'm putting the lid on it.