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louie101086
09-30-2007, 07:48 PM
i was reading this and i was just curious why anyone would want to buy a chipset that intel isnt comfortable with releasing thats why they are letting x48 so soon after i wonder what this bug really does for performance

http://vr-zone.com/articles/Intel_Prepares_DX48BT_Board_For_Q1_2008/5304.html

G H Z
09-30-2007, 08:30 PM
Binned chipsets? Thats a first.

No one runs EIST here anyway so thats not a problem.

boostedevo
09-30-2007, 10:07 PM
LOL, that's the first you heard of it G H Z? X48 is exactly the same as X38, just supposedly higher binned/more clockable and of course a heftier price. I guess Intel figured if they could get 3x the price for the same silicon in a CPU by adding "Extreme" to the label and "X" to the model, the same would work for chipsets ;) From what I've read, only Tier 1 manufacturers will even get a shot at them and judging from projected X38 board prices, Asus' X48 board should cost right around $500 :rofl:

Nosfer@tu
09-30-2007, 10:37 PM
Me dont care :D

aehmkei
09-30-2007, 11:00 PM
How severe is this bug? Did redesigning the mobos help?

GAR
09-30-2007, 11:01 PM
hmmmm........eist.........who cares?

learners permit
09-30-2007, 11:30 PM
Sweet less to disable in bios?

Charles Wirth
09-30-2007, 11:55 PM
The problem was seen with samples that were sent out as the bios did not allow upper multiples of what the es was capable of.

3rd party manufactures boards dont have this problem, its not really an issue anymore.

webwilli
10-01-2007, 09:58 AM
German News Site:

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/?article_id=615342

Second Comment:


maxx2003 01.10.2007 13:42
Der EIST-Bug hat beim Bekannten die CPU geschrottet.
Urplötzlich regelte sich die Spannung weit über den normalen CPU-Werten und zerstörte damit die CPU.


i try to translate:

the EIST-Bug has killed the cpu from my friend.
suddenly the vcore raised to a very high level and destroy the cpu.


true story or fake??

Leeghoofd
10-01-2007, 10:19 AM
fake for me... so he knew the Vcore suddenly rose to incredible levels though didn't do anything about it, yeah right... and what is incredible high voltage ? 1.8 volts ? CPU isn't damaged so easily-, I haven't ruined one yet ( besides one athlon XP with it's sensitive core pfff )

Also why didn't that guy explain more, wich mobo he used, would have been more informative for all of us... then this bare sentence

STaRGaZeR
10-01-2007, 11:00 AM
Binned chipsets? Thats a first.

No one runs EIST here anyway so thats not a problem.

I do. (in summer, here in Spain they are damn hot LOL)

But it isn´t a problem. Doing a simple vcore mod you can raise de vcore keeping EIST and C1E enabled to reduce frequency and voltage --> less heat and power comsumption like I do, it doesn´t kill de OC at all.

Charles Wirth
10-01-2007, 11:04 AM
I doubt they are related. Multitude of more plausible reasons to why the cpu died if one really died.

I am on DX38BT now and I run with EIST enabled and so? Its not a bad thing. I have noticed it lets my board run a lot cooler as well as the vapo is -51c near idle. Ice will form if the mount is not perfect.

Saving some power on my energy hog :)

webwilli
10-01-2007, 11:16 AM
I doubt they are related. Multitude of more plausible reasons to why the cpu died if one really died.

I am on DX38BT now and I run with EIST enabled and so? Its not a bad thing. I have noticed it lets my board run a lot cooler as well as the vapo is -51c near idle. Ice will form if the mount is not perfect.

Saving some power on my energy hog :)

thanks for reply :)

i have order an Asus P5E3 Deluxe and i hope it works well.

Charles Wirth
10-01-2007, 11:19 AM
Those are nice boards just make sure you get get D9 based DDR3 for results.

Jasonx82
10-01-2007, 11:31 AM
Those are nice boards just make sure you get get D9 based DDR3 for results.


any 2x2gb ddr3 memory you recommend?

webwilli
10-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Those are nice boards just make sure you get get D9 based DDR3 for results.

i use Cellshock DIMM Kit 2048MB PC3-14400U CL8-7-6-21 (DDR3-1800) (CS3222580).

my first DDR3 ever.

heydo6
10-01-2007, 12:03 PM
any 2x2gb ddr3 memory you recommend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145185

Ace-a-Rue
10-01-2007, 12:11 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145185

sorry man but corsair is so freaking overpriced!..i got sucked into one pair of DDR2-1142..never again!

vmsein
10-01-2007, 12:39 PM
thanks for reply :)

i have order an Asus P5E3 Deluxe and i hope it works well.

From where did you order? We need to get a thread going that lists etailers stocking supply of X38 motherboards:yepp:

Zucker2k
10-01-2007, 12:54 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145185

Lol!!

Jasonx82
10-01-2007, 01:06 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145185



OUCH... :shocked: :shrug:

Peter949
10-01-2007, 01:16 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145185

In a 6 months it should be down to $200-$300....crazy.

Blauhung
10-01-2007, 01:35 PM
I doubt they are related. Multitude of more plausible reasons to why the cpu died if one really died.

I am on DX38BT now and I run with EIST enabled and so? Its not a bad thing. I have noticed it lets my board run a lot cooler as well as the vapo is -51c near idle. Ice will form if the mount is not perfect.

Saving some power on my energy hog :)

BX2 runs rather nicely with EIST enabled as well.

Blauhung
10-01-2007, 01:37 PM
LOL, that's the first you heard of it G H Z? X48 is exactly the same as X38, just supposedly higher binned/more clockable and of course a heftier price. I guess Intel figured if they could get 3x the price for the same silicon in a CPU by adding "Extreme" to the label and "X" to the model, the same would work for chipsets ;) From what I've read, only Tier 1 manufacturers will even get a shot at them and judging from projected X38 board prices, Asus' X48 board should cost right around $500 :rofl:

I'm not sure, but there's a new stepping of BearlakeC that will be moving through soon, x48 might not be exactly the same.

boostedevo
10-01-2007, 02:32 PM
I'm not sure, but there's a new stepping of BearlakeC that will be moving through soon, x48 might not be exactly the same.Optimizations at least might help justify the extra expenditure if they don't wind up being substantially more OCable than X38. I personally am going to jump on X38 and then see exactly what X48 brings to the table. Thanks for the info.

webwilli
10-01-2007, 09:45 PM
From where did you order? We need to get a thread going that lists etailers stocking supply of X38 motherboards:yepp:

From Alternate in germany.

269.00 Euro

Don_Dan
10-02-2007, 05:17 AM
From Alternate in germany.

269.00 Euro


They already have some X38s in stock: http://www.alternate.de/html/product/search/searchResult.html?searchHandle=A%253DX38%257EB%253 DX38%257EK%253D4%257EL%253D1%257EM%253D10%257E&searchCriteria=X38&action=2&id=6806