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leo_bsb

08-30-2007, 07:11 PM

Ok Guys,

I already posted my parts list, getting everything next month.
Today I noticed that it will be impossible to bring a big Lian Li case within my baggage to Brazil so I decided to look for my old full ATX case. I was from my first computer, bought on 1997 and it needs painting, front USB ports, and a lot of work, but it has a lot of space for an all internal watercooler case.

I'm planning painting dust black inside/outside and use these parts to cool my new Gigabyte p35-DS3R, 8800GTS/GTX and Q6600:

D-TEK FuZion Universal CPU Waterblock - 1/2"
Laing D5 Vario/Swiftech MCP655 Inline 12V DC Pump
7/16" ID (5/8" OD) Masterkleer General Purpose Clear PVC Tubing 10' or Tygon (didn't decide yet)
Swiftech MCR-320 "Quiet Power" Series Radiator (Didn't find any PA120.3 in stock for a fair price)
Swiftech MC8800 SMC Cooling Kit
Swiftech MCW60 GPU Waterblock
1/2" OD T-Fitting (for 1/2" and 7/16" ID Tubing)
Danger Den Delrin FillPort
Danger Den Filling Syringe
Petra'sTech "PT_Nuke" Concentrated Biocide (10mL)
5 120mm Yate Loon D12SM-12
5 120mm Wire Fan Grille
5.25" Sunbeam Rheobus Fan Speed Controller (or vantec)
Silverstone 3.5" USB/Audio/Firewire bay.

Here is my case. I did some measurements and I'll fit the rad on top, with fans pushing air from outside. I almost have a separate chamber on top of the case. I can cut space and add a fan up on the back of the case pulling air out. I'll have to cut for a 120mm fan down front and fix a hard drive bay after it. The side panel will be modded with a window and I should add fans to cool the mosfets and video card memory. This time I'll sure add filters to avoid the mess I have to clean every month here.

Is there any problems placing the pump just under the rad? I'll have a longer loop for the video card and CPU coming from up to the downside but I think it should work.

My old man has a spray compressor so I just need to research on what paint should I use to paint the case.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/th_04901dbe.jpg (http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/04901dbe.jpg)
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/th_db3189e4.jpg (http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/db3189e4.jpg)
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/th_e3ea179f.jpg (http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/e3ea179f.jpg)
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/th_d1326fac.jpg (http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/d1326fac.jpg)
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AliG

08-30-2007, 07:14 PM

leo_bsb

08-30-2007, 07:23 PM

I have an idea, how about you give me a lian li v2000b, and in return I'll give you any random case from 1997 like yours that's already redone:D

Being serious (though I would like a free v2000b), I think you should be fine with the thoughts you already have. I've generally seen people do well when they think things out and go with what they think they should

Nice try:ROTF:
I could buy a mid-ATX case but I looked for all internals setups at the picture thread and none mid case will fit a triple rad and all my HDDs and cards internally.
The PC-7 Lian Li is in my whish list from newegg but I would have to run the rad outside and keeping it on the table. With a full ATX case, on wheels, I could just let it on the floor and save some space and will keep everything hiden from my wife :yepp:

Jedda

08-30-2007, 07:35 PM

Heaps of room for what ever you do in that case.
Should turn out well if you take your time.

dnb#

08-31-2007, 02:03 AM

another "old case project", or can I say "before christ case project"? :D
I think you should do what you can, maybe it turns out well.

Jimmer411

08-31-2007, 09:12 AM

leo_bsb

08-31-2007, 09:27 AM

Yea people dont seem to be into these mods too much :/ I started my own, tho Im hoping the actual modding starts in a day or 2 once I get my corded dremel back. Cordless dremel is not a modders friend lol.

If this was a Tj07 or V2000 there would be 30 hits by now lol.

I envy the fact that yours is already ATX form factor, unlike mine. Does it have individual side panels or is that just 1 shell around it?

Sure the Lian Li get a lot more attention ;)

It has two side panels and the mobo tray is removeable. Also the tray already has some standart cuts for cable management. I remember when I bought years ago it was the most expensive case at the store.

I'm planning in advance to disassembly it to start cutting. My friend at work has a milling machine at home. I'll take the upper panel off the case and mill the rad grill instead of bolt on a retail grill. This is gonna look good :yepp:

The big work will be painting the plastic front black and have it good looking. For the back and front 120mm hole I'm buing a hole saw.
Sorry for my poor english:D

Waterlogged

08-31-2007, 09:29 AM

Looks like individual panels.

Looks like it should be easy to do whatever you want in that monster. Sheeez, I could probably fit 2 of my mATX MoBo's in that case.:lol2:

GL

Jedda

08-31-2007, 09:07 PM

Top n bottom PA120.3 room. Gotta love that when you can have it.

The_Beast

08-31-2007, 09:15 PM

I hope this case turns out great :up:

leo_bsb

09-01-2007, 05:36 AM

started to draw the milling pattern today. I'll post pics later.

ginnz

09-01-2007, 05:42 AM

wow, thats a big case.... it even looks gigger than my ancient A-Open server case. you should be able to do all kinds of good stuff with that thing! keep posting pics as you go along.

leo_bsb

09-16-2007, 03:42 PM

so, I spent some hours reading the forums for mounting ideas.
This afternoon I decided to start draw my plannings with Visio.

- bad news first: I realized that my PA120.3 (thanks MountainMods) will not fit at the top of my case. Damm big case with only 380mm top? There are 30mm more at the front but it is the plastic bezel. How could I fit the 430.2mm length PA120.3 inside that case? How could a case like that doesn't turn my job a little easier ? :confused: I'll have to cut the back of the case and have a radiator tip outside :mad:

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/d33279d8.jpg

- good news: I had decided to not install a grill on top of the case but mill the grill on the top. I took about 30 min working with Visio to design a cuttable grill. I have the DWG files of Visio Files. The Grill will fit any PA120.3. You can send it to laser cut, flowjet cut or milling. It is simple but will do the job for the milling machine. If I had access to other machinery I would take time to do those crazy patterns.

Any suggestions? I'm almost dropping that big case. I found a place nearby that do powder coating. I was so excited... for nothing. :(

Martinm210

09-23-2007, 04:39 PM

Neat idea.

Not sure you'd be interested, but I think the PA is a bit longer than several other rads like the MCR320. Only reason I know is because the PA shroud is too long for the MCR.

leo_bsb

09-23-2007, 06:24 PM

Neat idea.

Not sure you'd be interested, but I think the PA is a bit longer than several other rads like the MCR320. Only reason I know is because the PA shroud is too long for the MCR.

I know but I already bought it. For the Quad and the 8800 the PA will hold better.
This old case would be not deep enough for a MCR too. How could foxconn made it so taller but just 38cm deep? :confused:

leo_bsb

11-04-2007, 06:31 PM

some updates:

- I changed the thread name since I dropped my old case for a new Lian Li PC-G70W. Until now I think this case is near perfect for watercooling. I already have all the parts on hand and started to rinse my PA120.3 and cutting some holes on the top of the case. I didn't want to wait for my friend to mill the rads on the top, he said it 2 weeks... who can wait for 2 weeks after several weeks of planning?
- I didn't took any pictures of the case box and disassembly, sorry.

here is the PA120.3 inside the upside down case: perfect fit. No need to cut any internals structures.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/e315857e.jpg

after some masking tape, measures and 12 holes.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/3917057d.jpg

after some dremel and elbow grease. I'll use the 3 filters on top instead of radgrils.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/ef59747a.jpg

leo_bsb

11-04-2007, 06:36 PM

I tried to rename the thread, didn't work. I'll not start a new one.
My work will slow down since I'll be back to work tomorrow, too bad I'll have only some night hours to get it done.

teko

11-05-2007, 04:50 AM

Looks like the case I'm molesting atm.. I've put a 120.3 in the front, and a 120.2 in the top, just got some problems with the reservoirs I got for it.. But actually a nice size to work with :)

Snyxxx

11-05-2007, 10:53 AM

teko,

I have this case as well. Do you have any pictures showing the 120.3 in the front. I also plan on a 120.2 in the top so I could still keep the PSU up there.

I want to keep the room at the bottom for pumps and such. Most poeple put the PSU a the bottom. I also plan on putting a 120.1 where the fron fan is located.

teko

11-05-2007, 02:49 PM

I do, on this page (http://jakob.nansen.dk): but it's mounted outside the case in the front, but you could cut out to fit it inside ;)

Edit: seems like i need to get new pictures of it :/

The_Beast

11-05-2007, 03:15 PM

well good luck with this case :up:

Snyxxx

11-05-2007, 04:34 PM

Thanks teko. I thought they were going to be of a LL G70.

teko

11-06-2007, 12:00 AM

Sorry didn't realized that je jad dropped the old case and gone with a new one, makes complete sense, as it takes alot of time to rebuild a case :/

johnanderson

11-06-2007, 12:52 AM

I had one of those cases. Spent alot of time modifying it to fit a rad on the top but I ended up throwing it in a corner and getting a U2-UFO. Its good if you like to mod but even after all that modding there still isn't enough space.

leo_bsb

11-08-2007, 06:14 PM

some updates:

- I'm still rinsing the PA120.3. Almost a week and I'm still getting some floating particles. the quad and mobo are ready. I removed the heatsinks, cleaned all contacts and apllied some MX2.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/e2c1e69e.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/90828163.jpg
- the case is ready, next step is install the boards for measure the hoses and find the best components placement.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/a0fc4616.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/96f7e21a.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/37c3a88d.jpg

- installed some enzotech heatsinks on the mosfets on my P5K-E. I really don't know why they installed just one heatpipe heatsink at the factory... just a dumb idea. I got a Thermalright backplate for the fuzion, really good advice from you guys.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/0e685cca.jpg

- Installed the quad nozzle and seal in the Fuzion.

- Remove the heatsink from my 8800GTS (look all that gunk). Hair dryer is your friend here.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/84ddf647.jpg

- ready for the mc60
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/3c82011b.jpg

Colossous

11-08-2007, 06:19 PM

Nice work there leo bsb !! :up:

AliG

11-08-2007, 06:26 PM

Nate P.

11-08-2007, 07:48 PM

Very nicely done!

Xilikon

11-09-2007, 05:23 AM

Great stuff here from a fellow P5K-E owner... I didn't think about getting some Enzotech bga ramsinks for the mosfets. I agree I don't understand why they didn't put a heatsink here and I wish Asus can sell the heatsink alone from the P5K Deluxe so I can add it myself. I also bought the Asus fan from ebay to be placed on the top mosfets heatsink to cool it.

Yours is very similar to mine : Q6600, P5K-E, Thermalright backplate, Fuzion block and 8800GTS. However, I will use a EK FC8800 instead of the MCW60 because I just found one here for 80$ shipped (pratically brand new since the owner just used it briefly then realized his MCR220 isn't enough for both a Q6600 and 8800GTS), which is a great deal.

Good luck with the project :) Mine (Project Xtreme WaveMaster) will be in full swing as soon as I receive my 2nd WaveMaster for modding.

leo_bsb

11-09-2007, 06:55 AM

looks good dude, lots of improvement since the original pictures:up:

If I can recommend something, how about doing something similar to what my friend did, and install some handles at the top, makes it a lot easier to carry the case for lan parties
http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=121873&postcount=59

that, or if put hinges in the side panels and a locking mechanism so that way the side panels will be more like doors to the case, makes it easier to get in out (think about the thermaltake motzart tx to get a better understanding of what I mean)
nice install. I looked for some handles but the hardware stores in Brazil are the worst type. When they have something similar that you asked for they charged you an arm and leg for it. Most of the time they don't have it. It is pretty sad but I got all my parts when I travel to USA.

Great stuff here from a fellow P5K-E owner... I didn't think about getting some Enzotech bga ramsinks for the mosfets. I agree I don't understand why they didn't put a heatsink here and I wish Asus can sell the heatsink alone from the P5K Deluxe so I can add it myself. I also bought the Asus fan from ebay to be placed on the top mosfets heatsink to cool it.

Yours is very similar to mine : Q6600, P5K-E, Thermalright backplate, Fuzion block and 8800GTS. However, I will use a EK FC8800 instead of the MCW60 because I just found one here for 80$ shipped (pratically brand new since the owner just used it briefly then realized his MCR220 isn't enough for both a Q6600 and 8800GTS), which is a great deal.

Good luck with the project :) Mine (Project Xtreme WaveMaster) will be in full swing as soon as I receive my 2nd WaveMaster for modding.

I searched for some used mosfets heatsinks, we could buy a pair from the guys not using them and split the price. Let me know if you find any post.
The ramsinks fit fine but they rely on the tape while the heatpipe heatsink can use the mobo holes and better thermal paste.

Xilikon

11-09-2007, 07:04 AM

A idea would be to ask for a dead P5K Deluxe. There might be some around so you can get it and yank the cooling you need then slap on the p5K-E. that's something which came across my mind a few times.

leo_bsb

11-10-2007, 10:41 PM

some updates:

- I'm just tired of rinsing that PA120.3. I think I'll get a filter and set it in my loop for a few days. Today, even after several boiling water shakes I still got some floating dots. I'm suspecting that could come from my demineralized water. I installed the fans and put the rad in place just to check the fit, I still need to do some work inside the case, cut some metal to free the hoses, etc.

- nice fit here, my dremel skills were not lost through these years:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/cb42d795.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/4c48fc96.jpg

- I tried to do basic loop, still need to put ramsinks on the 8800gts but I think they will fit under the hose. What do you guys think? Any suggestions? I still have some spare hose. I set the PSU in place just to check the space for the pump and noticed that I'll have a lot of work managing those wires.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/4a894358.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/8f23719d.jpg

leo_bsb

11-11-2007, 06:17 PM

what about my loop? Any sugestions?

bogg

11-12-2007, 07:50 AM

what about my loop? Any sugestions?

Have you considered making the mcw60 come in to the card from the side? that way you'll still be able to use the fan above the card that comes with the g70. As you have it it may be quite difficult.

To combat the messy psu cables you can cut a hole near the psu and thread them up the back of the mobo tray. there's not a lot of room. but you can force the side panel back on, and it'll just have a little bow, not really noticable. You can see that's what i've done in my first and second pics. It's tight for me, cos i put a pa160 down there too, but with a 120.1 or nothing down there, it's a nice easy way to neaten up your cables.

Maybe you could consider moving your pump too? to shorten your loop somewhat. Using a bracket like this - http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=34_40_102&products_id=291 you could mount the pump about where my ek res is.

Another thing to consider may be cutting out a strip where the tubing goes up to your rad. It looks nice and neat going through the holes as it does. I had mine like that. But it means you can't take the loop out of the case without dismantling it. So if you wanna make any little changes in the case (cuts etc) you either do it carefully and try not to get shards all over your rad, or you split the loop to get the rad out. you can see mine at the top of the last pic. i know my cuts are messy, you can do it neater :)

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8553/imgp5286ty9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2430/imgp5438gn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3037/imgp5527ce1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

leo_bsb

11-12-2007, 10:08 AM

bogg; Thanks a lot for your inputs. I really appreciated.

Very clever doing the hoses from the side on the VGA card. I'll do that.

I thought about moving the pump up but I tried to place it on the mobo tray, just under the reservoir, what do you think? It will need a short and curved hose (I have the smart coils). For this setup an EK reservoir would be much better.

I'll cut that plate over the mobo, I took off everything from the case and I'll use my dremel skills today. There is a lot of work to be done, I'll think about wire management later.

bogg

11-12-2007, 11:01 AM

Maybe try and move the res to make the route from res to pump easier? here's a couple of options. i don't know what you'll be putting in your 5 1/4" bays. you could put it where i've put mine, it fits nicely, but it may be just as tight to get from the rad - res.

My drawing skills are worse than my cutting skills !

But red / green / blue are possible res points. the cyan is the possible new pump point.

And if you're going to cut that plate over the mobo, i'd cut the hole to route the psu cables while you're at it. And if you use an 8 pin power to the mobo, you'll need to enlarge one of the holes (i cut to connect 2 holes into one) as the 8pin plug won't quite fit through :(

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5827/differntrespointsih6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Snyxxx

11-12-2007, 05:20 PM

bogg,

Nice ideas. :clap: Nice to know a PA.160 can fit in the bottom like that with a PSU.

My current build is in the same case. I plan to have the PA120.2 in the top and a PA120.1 in the front case fan spot. I prefer the PSU at the top since I want my DDCs to be at the bottom area.

leo_bsb

11-12-2007, 05:43 PM

bogg: I already knew and had tested the space on the pa120.3 side, it is too tight for the reservoir.
But following some great tips from you I reworked my loop for a better looking and shorter tubing.
What do you think?
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/a3b4449d.jpg

disruptfam

11-12-2007, 06:04 PM

bogg that's a sweet setup u have there... anymore pic's??

leo nice work man.... looking good so far... i don't really that psu though....

Are you gonna sleeve those cables??? looks messy... :)

leo_bsb

11-12-2007, 06:10 PM

bogg that's a sweet setup u have there... anymore pic's??

leo nice work man.... looking good so far... i don't really that psu though....

Are you gonna sleeve those cables??? looks messy... :)

Sure!
I'll sleeve everything and will try to hide them as much as possible.

May I consider the loop ready? If yes I'll take next step, final case moding and cable sleeving. I'll set up the loop for leak test using a external hard drive power supply.

bogg

11-13-2007, 01:24 AM

Leo_bsb - it is tight for my mirco res by the side of the rad, i guess it depends exactly where your rad sits. Here's a couple more pics. It does not touch either the rad, or the case side.

Another thing to maybe consider - When you put the pump ontop of the hdd cage, it does make it a little bit of a pain to get the cage in and out to play with the hdd's. It shouldn't be too bad for you with nice long tubes and only one pump. As you can see from my earlier pics above when i had the alphacool tops it proved to be very tricky to get to the hdd's.

In my newer incarnation with the petra tops, also above, the pumps sit on a bracket that's attached to the 5 1/4 above. that way the hdd cage can come in and out without troubling the pumps.

Snyxxx - If you're putting a pa120.1 at the front you'll have to move the hdd cage back a bit, but you probably already knew that :)
I've put a pic that welshtom at chilledpc did a little while ago.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9233/res2dg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7292/res1cj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/tom/G70/IMG_0531.jpg

leo_bsb

11-13-2007, 05:11 AM

I was worried about the vibration caused by the pump affecting the HDD, do you think it may cause any issue? I installed it using the rubber spacer, it is actually really easy to take the pump out.
Regarding the reservoir placement, I used thumb screws to get it on place, it is really easy to take it off for bleed the system. The only problem there is that it is not on top of the system but I'll bleed the system with the case laid down.
My next buy will be an EK reservoir. I'm already figuring an EK in the place of my micro res and the pump just hanged under it, it will be a tight and short loop.

leo_bsb

11-17-2007, 10:25 AM

Updates:

- I was tired of rinse the PA120.3, the hot water/shaking combo was giving me some shoulder ache. I decided to go for the filter in the loop. It is good to test for leaks too.
I don't know why but every time I shut the pump off/on a big air bubble comes from the filter, it is not a big problem since I'll let the loop run this way until monday, when I'll take the filter out and set up my final loop and start some real watercooling with everything in place.
Here are some pics:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/9b544b0a.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/b3d87ed9.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/b1eab9c7.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/f467d59b.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/f07a7e4c.jpg

to power on the pump I'm using an external HDD power supply, I think it is ok since it is 2A for the 12V line, resulting in a 24W power.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/f1fc2ce6.jpg

disruptfam

11-17-2007, 03:22 PM

nice work man!!! i thought you had water leaking for a second there... haha

But it just bubble wrap phew....

more updates!!!

hoax

11-17-2007, 03:42 PM

Snyxxx

11-17-2007, 03:50 PM

bogg,

Thanks for the advice and pic on the front mounted 120.1. I thought I was going to completely lose the hard drive rack. A slight shift is all that is needed.

leo_bsb

11-17-2007, 07:02 PM

nice work man!!! i thought you had water leaking for a second there... haha

But it just bubble wrap phew....

more updates!!!

thanks m8! I'll have some news tomorrow, BTW I love your country ;) Nice people and beaches.

looking good leo... keep it up :up:

a small heads up if I may.. for the folks using their brand new mcres on the filtering loop.. I did the same thing and some really nasty gunk from the rad stuck to the inner walls of the res.. It dried up and I never managed to get it clean again. ended up replacing said res...

although I have seen a recent post from IanY where he suggests trying "Dishwasher on "sterile" mode with Jet Dry".. I don't have a dishwasher so I wouldn't know :p:

I was having some white floats when rinsing the PA120.3 but now with the filter I'm not seeing any. I think my elbow grease almost finished them. I'll let the loop filtering one more day and will take the filter out and add some hydrix to the loop. I'm going crazy without put some real hardware to test.

Thanks for all inputs so far, you guys are great.

leo_bsb

11-18-2007, 06:14 PM

I took off the filter and build my final loop. It is leak test right now, I put the case upside down and the little bubbles are disappearing while the pump is running.
Some shots:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/963d4fa7.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/e5b1d909.jpg

Xilikon

11-18-2007, 06:39 PM

looking good leo... keep it up :up:

a small heads up if I may.. for the folks using their brand new mcres on the filtering loop.. I did the same thing and some really nasty gunk from the rad stuck to the inner walls of the res.. It dried up and I never managed to get it clean again. ended up replacing said res...

although I have seen a recent post from IanY where he suggests trying "Dishwasher on "sterile" mode with Jet Dry".. I don't have a dishwasher so I wouldn't know :p:

That was me who asked how and I tried this method. It worked pretty well but not fully since it's hard to throw water thru small holes. I will try it once more when I disassemble my test loop and install it in my case soon.

leo_bsb

11-22-2007, 07:13 PM

I started the wire sleeving, I'll not put those bare wires inside that beautifull case.
It is not that hard but time consuming, I hope I'll finish tomorrow so I can assemble all hardware and start to use the computer.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18221024x768.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18231024x768.jpg

leo_bsb

11-23-2007, 08:54 PM

I just finished the PSU wire sleeving, still need to do the fans and pump, but I'm sure it will be a much easier job. Wire sleeving is really time consuming and for a guy like me with little to no time at all it really sucks.
Wire sleeving is a "trabalhinho de corno" as we say here in Brazil.
I think you guys got to the point that I hated to sleeve all those wires, I'm sure that my next PSU will come sleeved from factory. The final result is not that bad and I hope my PSU works when I power it up, I'm thinking about loosing all that job for a RMA.
Some pics:

- Etasis makes some Silverstone PSUs, I don't know why the blue sleeving on the PCI express connectors. I know somebody will say "change those sleevings, they are not matching", just forget about them, I'll never change them, I'd rather spray paint or use hair color to get those blues blacks.
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18271024x768.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18251024x768.jpg
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18261024x768.jpg

I'll finish my case tomorrow. I love weekends ;)

leo_bsb

11-26-2007, 07:52 PM

Hey guys, it's done. I had some problems installing Vista until I disable the Marvell Sata Raid in the Bios.

I did some temp tests with 4 Orthos process + Atitool artifacts to check temps in stock frequecies. Q6600 stock and 8800GTS at 575MHz core.

I'm getting 33 33 28 33 idle. 44 44 40 44 running 4 orthos threads plus Atitools arctifacts.
I was running the PA120.3 with 3 YL pushing fresh air tunned to a noiseless speed using a reobus, the led was red, not blue.
I coudn't measure ambient and GPU, it was a hot night yesterday, maybe 25C.
What do you guys are using for ambient and GPU temps log? I will maybe remount before overclock the GPU and my Q6600.

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18291024x768.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18301024x768.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18331024x768.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18481024x768.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18471024x768.jpg

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/IMGP18451024x768.jpg

disruptfam

11-26-2007, 08:13 PM

look awesome nice work on the cable sleeving it's time consuming but it's worth it!!!

:)

Aldy402

11-26-2007, 08:21 PM

great work bro! in the pics it doesn't seem like your running your ram in dual channel though.. choose 1 color for both sticks to run dual channel

leo_bsb

11-26-2007, 08:29 PM

look awesome nice work on the cable sleeving it's time consuming but it's worth it!!!

:)

Thanks, I still need to do some cable management but it will involve cutting that panel and I'm not that inclined to do it now.

great work bro! in the pics it doesn't seem like your running your ram in dual channel though.. choose 1 color for both sticks to run dual channel

You are right :up: I saw that when booting and changed one stick. I thought it worked the same way as my old nforce 4 (now my htpc).

Snyxxx

11-26-2007, 08:37 PM

Nice job. I like your pump and reservoir location. I ahve the same case I am getting ready to start on. Thanks for the great photos.

Eddie3dfx

11-27-2007, 06:35 AM

leo_bsb

11-27-2007, 07:03 AM

Simple and Clean, I like the setup and the way it's so simple in an open space.
Does that piece that fits over the radiator and hides the spouts, was that part of the case or did you purchase that separately?
What type of fluid are you using? I use distilled and the danger dens green dye, but it looks nothing like the one you have.
Looking Good!

Thanks, that part is part of the case, I had to cut it to have access for the rad tubing.
I'm using swiftech hydrix, some guys told me it will loose color with time. I'll have some UV lighting to see how it glows and will post pics later.

septim

11-27-2007, 07:16 AM

very nice.

bogg

11-27-2007, 02:06 PM

Glad to see some of my ideas helped. It looks quite familiar now ;)
Not sure if it's annoying you yet, but the pump could be quieter if it's rubber mounted, and it's a lot less likely to overheat if it's got some airflow underneath it.
And if it was me, and it kinda was ! i'd stick another 3 fans on the pa120.3, i know a lot of people will say it doesn't do anything / much for temps, but i feel it allows you to run the fans quite a bit slower / quieter and it's not like it makes any difference to your space.
I’m not trying to be down on your build though, it looks good. And i'm certainly no expert. It’s just sometimes nice to have some constructive criticism rather than endless praise.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2417/imgp5559pp4.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4234/imgp5555gk4.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5409/imgp5575sq4.jpg

hoax

11-27-2007, 03:02 PM

Wire sleeving is a "trabalhinho de corno" as we say here in Brazil.

:ROTF: come on now...its not that bad :p:

congrats man...looks great, nice temps too :up: :up:

btw you can use everest ultimate to monitor the gpu :)

leo_bsb

11-27-2007, 03:17 PM

Glad to see some of my ideas helped. It looks quite familiar now ;)
Not sure if it's annoying you yet, but the pump could be quieter if it's rubber mounted, and it's a lot less likely to overheat if it's got some airflow underneath it.
And if it was me, and it kinda was ! i'd stick another 3 fans on the pa120.3, i know a lot of people will say it doesn't do anything / much for temps, but i feel it allows you to run the fans quite a bit slower / quieter and it's not like it makes any difference to your space.
I’m not trying to be down on your build though, it looks good. And i'm certainly no expert. It’s just sometimes nice to have some constructive criticism rather than endless praise.

You helped A LOT! I really appreciated all suggestions.

The pump is dead silence right now; it is getting some air from the HD enclosure fan. My PSU or another fan, I don't know yet, is making some noise under heavy load, I'll try to find out and do something. My future plans include buying the PA120.3 shroud and use it after the 3 fans on the top. Marci told that it will reach 6 fans performance with just 3 fans, cutting the turbulence noise too.

leo_bsb

11-27-2007, 03:20 PM

:ROTF: come on now...its not that bad :p:

congrats man...looks great, nice temps too :up: :up:

btw you can use everest ultimate to monitor the gpu :)

Hey, you were not with me during all those long hours...

thanks, I'll start to tweak the system, in the next holiday I'll do some wire hiding.

leo_bsb

11-29-2007, 03:52 PM

OK guys, I admit, I didn't get a good Q6600, my G0 won't let Vista Ultimate post at 4.00GHz with 1.515V (1.5 monitored). I didn't want to crank the vcore over it, should I?
Right now it is on 3.6 GHz with 1.45V (1.432 monitored and 1.416 after drop). I'm using the 0602 beta bios for the P5K-E and it is much better drop than the latest bios.
Load temps with Prime95 and AtiTool artifacts search both running at the same time are: 57C-57C-52C-54C for the Q6600 and 54C with ambients of the tropics (over 25C). It doesn't matter if I run the YL mediums on the PA120.3 at full speed or medium (silent) speed, the temperatures oscillation keeps 1C low at most. The motherboard temperature raises a bit with the rad fans at medium or low speed.
My 8800GTS achieved a pretty good overclock without any vmods, right now it is artifacts free running at 710-1650-1050

I'll try to remount just to make sure I'm good with these temps. I wished they are lower so I would be more excited about trying to reach 4GHz with more voltage.

just a picture of my 3dmark result:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m197/leo_bsb/Watercooler/3dmark_13640.jpg