Thermalright backplate with D-teck fuzion

[iadstudio]

Who uses a Thermalright backplate with D-teck fuzion and can tell me how to mount it. I ordered both because it was recomended to use a backplate on a 775 socket. Which set of screws do I use?

[Jedda]

I used all the Fuzion screws etc and only the backplate from the Thermalright mounting kit.

[iadstudio]

thanks

[Aldy402]

backplate holes aren't big enough for stock d-tek screws
your gonna have to enlarge the holes with a drill
if you haven't bought it yet, go with the scythe backplate, no drilling required

[Boyu]

mine screw in perfectly without any mod using thermalright backplate.

[no_n|ck]

^^yea, same here, the holes match perfectly fine with d-tek mounting kit..

[Sparky]

D-tek had a little different screws at launch than they do now IIRC, they were bigger around.

[iadstudio]

what us distributors carry the scythe backplate? I'll get one of those and eat the $4 for the thermalright I bought.

[Jedda]

My Fuzion screws were an exact match for the Thermalright thread.
Very neat.

[annaconda]

I tried the Thermaltake's back plate and it works too.

[NaeKuh]

D-tek had a little different screws at launch than they do now IIRC, they were bigger around.

yup. But they made them smaller now.

And i can confirm also, the latest bolt shippments for the blocks will fit perfectly fine on either the swiftech backplate, or the Thermalalright backplate.

I also still think they are the same, but gabe swears he redesigned the swiftech ground up.

[SpinCykle]

Is this somehting that would decrease temps with the block, or is it just for even pressure distribution? Where could i buy just the back plate?

[aiya]

i purchased a thermalright backplate thinking the holes where the same size as the 6-32 screws i have, but they aren't. i'm going to be using this on my Apogee GT and was wondering if i were to purchase the D-Tek Fuzion mounting hardware here:

http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfucpuwamoha.html

would it be the smaller screws that are shipping with the Fuzion blocks?

[iadstudio]

call petra's and ask. They're really good about answering that kind of stuff.

[Sparky]

If it is fuzion mounting hardware, then it should be the smaller screws ;)

[aiya]

i emailed Alex @ Petra's just to make sure.

[GameGuru]

Just ordered the Thermalright Bolt-thru kit from Sidewinder's http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/lgbowiscsp.html

I have a new Fuzion, I hope this will fit :cool:

[nealh]

I bought a fuzion in the last month and TR retention bracket and backplate...the backplate works fine..
http://www.jab-tech.com/product.php?productid=2570

[Anemone]

You know, Dtek ought to work with someone to get a backplate option since so many folks are using one...

[NaeKuh]

You know, Dtek ought to work with someone to get a backplate option since so many folks are using one...

sure.. it would only take 1 yr b4 they released it tho. Look at how long its taking for there accelerator nozzles.

One more reason why i like swiftech the company better. Once gabe says okey, its on. BAM! 2-3 weeks tops later, its on sale. :D

[xmikeex]

Question on installing the backplate. So you mount it on the back and you installed the block per the instructions? Becuase I had a friend that did that and the board still bent. Is there something that needs to be done differently?

[sergers]

for a scythe or the thermalright retention backplate, should go :

starting from the backside of the mobo,
screw/bolt > washer > backplate > mobo > washer > nut > fuzion bracket > washer > thumb screw/bolt


do NOT tighten the bolts as tight as possible, as the bolts do not mount 100% straight. So when you mount your fuzion, the bolts maybe pointed inwards slightly. to fit the bolts through the fuzion bracket, you will then require to push the bolts outwards to align with the holes.
this will cause your mount to bow the motherboard... defeating the purpose of the backplate.

[iadstudio]

so is it recomended to even use a backplate with the fuzion?

[aiya]

not necessarily. you can use just the mounting hardware that comes with it. but some people like having a backplate there for support.

for me, i don't like the closed nuts that come with my apogee GT and since i'm upgrading the mounting hardware, i thought might as well get a backplate while i'm at it.

also, got a response from Alex @ Petra's. he said the separate Fuzion mounting hardware are the newer, smaller screws. so they fit in the thermalright backplate holes.

[alphakry]

I don't get how you guys got this backplate to work. I am attempting it with my EVGA 680i & D-Tek and it doesn't seem possible to me.

A. First off, the plate doesn't mount 100% flush when first put up against the motherboard, before anything is tightened down:


http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/07_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/07.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/08_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/08.jpg)
I don't suspect this would be an issue once the CPU is installed and tightened - which should pull it snug.



B. At least with the EVGA, there is a chip in the way of where the plate should mount - so the plate required some minor modification:


http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/01_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/01.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/02_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/02.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/03_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/03.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/04_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/04.jpg)



C. After everything is mounted and tightened correctly, there is still a gap due to the way the bracket is designed, so it's impossible to have this bracket securley mounted as all 4 corners have the following slack:


http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/09_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/09.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/10_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/10.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/13_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/13.jpg)

Basically, the recessed part of the bracket that fits through the motherboard holes is longer then the thickness of the motherboard, so it sticks out on the other side and does not allow me to tighten the bolts down to even remotely secure it!
http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/14_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/14.jpg) http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/15_t.jpg (http://www.dellefemine.com/images/computers/ProjectTJ07/CPU_bracket/15.jpg)




Any suggestions as to why this appears so difficult?

[welshtom]

You have to modify the bracket so it doesnt touch that component. IE drill a hole in it, did you drill a hole or just modify the padding as that wont work

[Daemonfly]

Why doesn't someone just post the actual thread size of the Thermaltake bracket? Seems that would be the easiest way to figure out what fits what.

[Jedda]

It doesn't matter that the rear points don't touch the mobo. Only that the center square behind the socket does. If the outer points did touch the board would tend to bend. Exactly what you don't want.

Its M3 or M4. I'd have to check but the plate is only a thread or two thick, so thread type isn't that important.

[Xilikon]

Look like M3 for me.

[Jedda]

Look like M3 for me.

Yep, it is.

[alphakry]

It doesn't matter that the rear points don't touch the mobo. Only that the center square behind the socket does. If the outer points did touch the board would tend to bend. Exactly what you don't want.

Its M3 or M4. I'd have to check but the plate is only a thread or two thick, so thread type isn't that important.

hmm... you sure about this? compared to the stock D-Tek mounting, which is what I'm convinced I'm going to be doing now due to these issues - the bracket without flush fit is quite loose. wouldn't that defeat the purpose?