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Brother Esau
08-02-2007, 09:51 PM
Ok guy's how about the members that have the EVGA 680i A1 and recent Q6600 purchase posting some result overclocking this Quad Core on this board so we can all see the worth and merit of this board with overclocking a Quad Core.

Post them up gents! I myself cant get jack out of mine due to the chip itself but I have a Q6600 G0 on the way.


EDIT: Please Post All Voltage Settings in Bios along with CPUZ, Prime95 and Core Temp Screen Shots

turtletrax
08-02-2007, 10:30 PM
will have some info tomorrow :)

Brother Esau
08-02-2007, 10:31 PM
Thanks Turtletrax

C'mon guys join in!

sdumper
08-02-2007, 10:36 PM
Let me point some angry 680i OCers to this thread... ;)

As for me I could not go higher than a very very unstable 400fsb (1600mhz quad pumped).

turtletrax
08-02-2007, 10:41 PM
Let me point some angry 680i OCers to this thread... ;)

As for me I could not go higher than a very very unstable 400fsb (1600mhz quad pumped).

Yikes... Hope it has more than that in it. I really want to hold out untill X38 :(

tuchan
08-02-2007, 10:43 PM
So much for me buying a quad to put in the 680i........what to do, what to do.....

This thread will be of some help:)

treatmentx
08-02-2007, 10:50 PM
ugh, i'm gonna sell my P5N32-E, it's annoying as hell.

Brother Esau
08-02-2007, 10:52 PM
Dont let that discourage you as there needs to be allot of people posting their results in order to draw a comparison to other boards! So just wait till some more owners show up and get involved this is the entire motivation behind this thread as well as people that are new to owning and overclocking Quad Cores on these boards to see what more seasoned Quad Core Clockers can bring to the table for the noobies with these chips cuz its a different animal compared to overclocking there way too easy cousin the C2D completely different believe me!

Brother Esau
08-02-2007, 10:57 PM
Believe me spending only $300.00 for what a Q6600 brings to the table in everyday power use (Real World ) use is friggin huge! Like Movieman said its about as close to robbing someone as it gets but without having to use a gun:D

aka1nas
08-02-2007, 10:58 PM
I actually picked up the T1 version, which is the same board with a shorter warranty and less accessories. Unfortunately, it was DOA and I'm currently waiting for the replacement. Hopefully I'll get that soon and can post some results with my new (B3:( ) Q6600

turtletrax
08-02-2007, 10:59 PM
I needed that pep talk Esau :p:

I agree tho, keep the spirits up and see what we can find out. It would be nice if people could report their SB (590/570) as well. Could be important...

That said I have the 590 SB.

Brother Esau
08-02-2007, 11:01 PM
To be honest I didn't even think to look! For me replaceing the TIM on the NB/SB thats a standard proceedure on getting any new motherboard I have no idea why some people on the EVGA forum make a big issue out of it?

Heres a post I made in the Intel Support section:>>>>

I think its pretty much just the desire to see what a Quad Core Processor is like in you're system in real world day to day performance. Beside for $300.00 what these chips bring to the table is huge in the sense of Multi Tasking in day to day PC Pwer use which we all do!

Reduced the Encoding of a CD in Highest FLAC and OGG compression Level in more than half compared to my Opteron 170 @2.75ghz:eek: Thats right I said reduced the time by more than half like around 65% faster is about accurate!!!:up:

Metric
08-02-2007, 11:30 PM
Currently testing my B3 Q6600 at 3.6GHz (1:1 @ 3-3-3-9 T1, 1.55 vcore). I'll see if I can get some results up as well on my max FSB and overall clock speed within the next couple of days as well, because so far my 680i has been treating me pretty well, haven't encountered any of the errors other people are getting.

@ Esau: Sure, I'll remember to do so.

Brother Esau
08-02-2007, 11:49 PM
Thanks Metric and remeber Post ALL Voltages in Bios please.

skndvr
08-03-2007, 12:10 AM
man this is very upsetting, i just got my EVGA 680i A1 in and my q6600. Just waiting on my case to put it all together. What the hell man, is the 680i really that bad, I've heard both good and bad about it, at first a lot of good but now that it has been delivered i seems to be finding all teh bad. whats the deal? did i make a bad choice? Should I return it, pay the 15% restock fee and get a P5k? or sum kinda Asus board?

turtletrax
08-03-2007, 12:38 AM
I find my 680i kinda flakey, but that was with my C2D. If it doesnt feel like it has what it takes with my Quad, I am going to go with the Abit P35, or try to wait for the X38.

Bleeding my loop tonite and I have tomorrow off, so gonna let 'er rip and hope that I can get some good results, but I have my doubts....

aka1nas
08-03-2007, 12:59 AM
man this is very upsetting, i just got my EVGA 680i A1 in and my q6600. Just waiting on my case to put it all together. What the hell man, is the 680i really that bad, I've heard both good and bad about it, at first a lot of good but now that it has been delivered i seems to be finding all teh bad. whats the deal? did i make a bad choice? Should I return it, pay the 15% restock fee and get a P5k? or sum kinda Asus board?

The P35 boards will likely be able to hit higher FSB speeds with quads. However, it's not likely that you will be pushing CPU clockspeeds that will cause this to be a problem with the Q6600, especially if it's a B3 stepping. The main reason why you would pick the 680i over the P35 chipset is if you need SLI support.

It does look like quad-core OCing is improving with this EVGA board. Anandtech was able to hit 435FSB on a quad with the lastest BIOS.

Cupcake
08-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Let me point some angry 680i OCers to this thread... ;)

As for me I could not go higher than a very very unstable 400fsb (1600mhz quad pumped).

Yes thanks for directing me :up:

I havent done too much yet but I cant boot at 3Ghz with 1.35v :(

havent tried any higher because of temps but I will today

NKD
08-03-2007, 01:16 AM
i have had my faith in 680i if i had it i would post my results, i did have it with my quad when i had i was able to hit 3.4 easily with mutliplier at 8. at 1.5v.

but since the 680i is most unrealiable chipset on the planet earth or the universe i decided to sell both of my gtx's and got a superfast ultra, and sold of my quad as it was running super hot even on water and got a e6850 clocked at 3.95 as of now being stress tested for 2+ hours.

i might be the unlucky one but i have seen more than enough threads at evga about "--" syndrome. i had three boards do that to me, they did that every few weeks, and there was only one board that lasted me about 4 months, i never asked for an rma, just bought a ip35 pro, one month and no issues and the most amazing and stable first release bios i have seen on any board. evga has good service but only if they tested the baords they send back, to rma's the baords were dead to start with. they said sir we will do the third one no problem, i said no i dont need anymore headaches.

my single ultra now does 14k 3dmark, i used to get 13k with sli with my e6400 at 3.2.

i am sure there are 680i happy customers, but after looking at evga's forums, there's is very high probability that ur board will have issues. i have built systems for years now, and when those tech support people blame it on you when they dont even know what memory timings mean.

sdumper
08-03-2007, 07:04 AM
Guys dont get me wrong this board is fine for the higher multi Quads see my sig its just for me at least on 3 - A1 boards and a Striker Extreme I ran into very low FSB walls which leads me to blame it on the 680i chipset.

NOTE: This same CPU did 450 on my P5B Deluxe so I am led to believe its the 680i chipset :(

If you like I can try my Q6600 on a EVGA A1 mobo and verify. Still I saw one guy who posted above that he was able to pull 3.6ghz or FSB 400. I too was able to boot at 400 fsb and run a quick superpi and cpuz before i crashed.

Lets hope some other guys can post some better results than I found :(

pumbertot
08-03-2007, 07:17 AM
not got my GO Q6600 yet but I expect I will still get the 470MHz that I can with the QX6700. I dont know why others are struggling to get over 400MHz.
all with P28 BIOS. oh and Ive had the board a fair few months now and not experienced any of the problems some are. Even had my Microns 4x1GB with 2.4V
the whole time and no issues there. I guess its maybe just hit and miss with this board but Im lucky then. :D

edit: and since I have to have GTX SLI no other board is an option just now.

heres an old screenie @ 450MHz from when the P28 first came out.

http://uk.geocities.com/pumbertot.1@btopenworld.com/ScreenShot002.GIF

sdumper
08-03-2007, 07:58 AM
Wow thats awesome can you increase the multi to 9 and show a 400*9.
I am very impressed. Perhaps it was my QX6700...

Also can you show a wprime for a few minutes and again thats AWESOME I could never get anywhere close to that FSB with a multi of 9 or above :(

Also can you provide a CPUz verified link so we can see the chipset.

Like this for instance: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=166407

Or this

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=169633

NaeKuh
08-03-2007, 08:02 AM
X3220:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/NewTemps.jpg

Vcore 1.375 Real.


Q6600: Settings in pic.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Q6600.jpg

Lost the Bionic pic of hers. :\


Q6600 ES is on the P35. Infact these are all old pics. All my systems are now on P35. 680i seriously blows. And if you dont need SLI. DONT GET IT.

KALISPIMENTA
08-03-2007, 08:24 AM
I can get 3.0 Ghz with the old 680i version,
cpu core=auto
cpu fsb=1.4
spp=1.4
mcp=1.50
ht=1.3
I rma my board and the new one should be here Wednesday .Going to re-paste the board and will post again soon.
Thank you for this thread.

sdumper
08-03-2007, 08:46 AM
Q6600 ES is on the P35. Infact these are all old pics. All my systems are now on P35. 680i seriously blows. And if you dont need SLI. DONT GET IT.
__________________
My thoughts exactly NaeKuh...

The board was ok for my unlocked Quad but for folks with a locked Quad it appears to be hit or miss.

Brother Esau
08-03-2007, 08:48 AM
I can run 24/7 stable @475 FSB with my previous E6420 that I sold all on low voltage too, so I know my current board is a proven High FSB runner

icon57
08-03-2007, 09:10 AM
i would like to get a Q6600, as soon as the old stepping's are sold out
(2 weeks?)

i run the cpu in my sig at 450 x 8 (1.475v in bios)

shouldnt i be able to get the same fsb with the q6600?

sdumper
08-03-2007, 09:12 AM
I can run 24/7 stable @475 FSB with my previous E6420 that I sold all on low voltage too, so I know my current board is a proven High FSB runner


Yes but thats a dual core and I could post at 500 FSB with my e6420 on the EVGA...the problem is with the quad cores not the dual.

Now for a non sli alternative I do like the P5K Deluxe:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=224147

Brother Esau
08-03-2007, 09:35 AM
I know that buyt lets wait for a bunch of people to join in with their findings first.:)

Metric
08-03-2007, 10:17 AM
Just finished up my testing at 3.6GHz with some Orthos overnight. Quiet warm in the office here (26c), so my load temps are around 6c higher than usual.
Cooling = Lapped Thermalright Ultra-120. Room ambient = 26c

*Links = 56K Warning (1.7MB)*

Loaded for 9+ hours:
http://images1.filecloud.com/546501/Orthos_Stable_9hours_3600.jpg
~5 Minutes After:
http://images1.filecloud.com/546502/Orthos_Stable_9hours_3600_Idle.jpg

P30 BIOS Settings:

Vcore = 1.55; Windows = 1.52; vdroop = 1.49
FSB = 1.40v
SPP = 1.30v
MCP = 1.55v
HT = 1.25v
RAM = 2.2v (Ram model is in signature)

More testing results to come this weekend. Hope this helps.

turtletrax
08-03-2007, 10:21 AM
Loop is finnished and leak tested and did my first boot. Gonna grab some setting from here and start giving them a shot.

First impressions at stock are pretty good. Load times for regular programs in Vista x64 with 4GB are sick, but I am getting a 7-9 degree difference in Everest for the 4 cores. They range from 25-34 degrees.

Have to see if my mount is proper, or is it normal to have that much of a difference??

Anyhow, getting into the meat and potatoes now :)

Brother Esau
08-03-2007, 10:25 AM
The lowest core difference on my Q6600 is about 5-7 cooler running than the rest.

@metric....Are you on water?

Metric
08-03-2007, 10:31 AM
The lowest core difference on my Q6600 is about 5-7 cooler running than the rest.

@metric....Are you on water?
Wasn't sure if I should have posted that, but I'm running on a lapped Ultra-120.

I think the heatpipes on mine are slightly defective or something as there's only a 10c difference between 2.4GHz stock volts and my current 3.6GHz :shrug: ...

Brother Esau
08-03-2007, 10:57 AM
Those are really good sinks then!:)

sdumper
08-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Very well done

turtletrax
08-03-2007, 11:44 AM
Ok, as a primer I tried 3.2Ghz with...

CPU Vcore 1.4375 (1.39 real)
FSB 1.4
Mem 2.1
SPP 1.45
MCP 1.55
HT 1.5

Mem running 900Mhz ran fine for 25 minutes.

Then Ran 3.38

CPU Vcore 1.468 (1.42 real)
FSB 1.5
Mem 2.1
SPP 1.5
MCP 1.55
HT 1.5

Only let that run for about 10 minutes

Then tried 3.6Ghz with the above settings fully expecting to not get into Vista and low and behold it has been priming for about 10 minutes so far. I did reduce the link to 4X so I dont know if that had much effect, but I did have to lower it for my E6400.

Looks like this chip might have what it takes. I just hope that the Mobo can keep pace :)

Edit: Well, looks like I got screwed, but not by the Mobo. My PSU doesnt have the water in its balls to power the rig. It goes into protection and now I have to unplug half my stuff to get it to start the rig :(

Dont have the cash to get a 1K PSU, so I might have to buy a cheap PSU and go dual. Not like my Tt armour looked crappy enough crammed to the rafters, I have to put another PSU in the floor beside it. Getting too expensive...

aka1nas
08-03-2007, 03:57 PM
Which PSU were you trying? I was trying a 750watt Zeus also with the EVGA T1 board I RMAed and it was shutting off immediately when I had the EPS 12V connector plugged in. It wouldn't POST with that or another working PSU regardless.

Brother Esau
08-03-2007, 05:07 PM
Just checked the updated Dump File for Q6600 G0 Pre Orders from Tank Guys and I am # 144 out of the 150 first shipment they are recieving into inventory on the 10-12th:up: :cord: :cord: :cord: :cord: :cord: :cord: :D

aka1nas
08-03-2007, 05:12 PM
I canceled my Pre-order today(was #37) as I am probably going to stick with the B3 chip I ended up gettinf from NCIX. Hope your G0 does well!

jkresh
08-03-2007, 06:50 PM
Brother Esau where did you see 10th-12th, last i checked on there update page they were expecting 150 (I am 137) on the 8th-9th, if they get them in by then thats great if not I may end up canceling as other suppliers are starting to get G0's in mass.

Brother Esau
08-03-2007, 07:03 PM
TankGuys said around 8-9th for order but to expensive for 2nd day so they will get the 3 day express so realisticaly I fugure around the 12th possibly the 13th when they receive inventory.

turtletrax
08-03-2007, 07:23 PM
Got my PSU figured out. Now priming 3.66Ghz at 1.41Vcore. Definately need to get higher CFM fans on my HE 120.3.

Edit: Looks like 411 FSB is all this board has. Even tried lowering the MCP and SPP links to 3x and it still hangs at IDE detection.

This is where I need some people to chime in with settings for high FSB. I know this chip had allot left in it.

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 04:28 AM
Wow thats awesome can you increase the multi to 9 and show a 400*9.
I am very impressed. Perhaps it was my QX6700...

Also can you show a wprime for a few minutes and again thats AWESOME I could never get anywhere close to that FSB with a multi of 9 or above :(

Also can you provide a CPUz verified link so we can see the chipset.

Like this for instance: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=166407

Or this

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=169633


ah a disbeliever?will try to get those things up, just havent run my rig for a while and the QX6700 goes to new owner on Monday. my GO comes next week. :D

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 07:18 AM
happy now? :p:
dont really currently have the cooling to do 9x at this frequency. ;)
oh and cpu-z verification just gives me an error for some reason??? maybe not good for Vista?idk??
http://uk.geocities.com/pumbertot.1@btopenworld.com/ScreenShot002.gif

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 07:36 AM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=224759
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=224765

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 07:52 AM
http://uk.geocities.com/pumbertot.1@btopenworld.com/ScreenShot003.gif

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 07:59 AM
gets hot very quick with aircooling and pushing cpu.:eek:

http://uk.geocities.com/pumbertot.1@btopenworld.com/ScreenShot004.gif

sdumper
08-04-2007, 11:35 AM
Can you show me a 450 by 9 or by 10 just kidding...

Very strange I suppose its possible the CPU was holding me back but ...hmmm

I will try one of my Evga 680i A1 boards with a Q6600 under phase and see how it does because I am very perplexed now.

zettahertz
08-04-2007, 01:34 PM
wat's your motherboard voltages?

NCspecV81
08-04-2007, 04:10 PM
Can you show me a 450 by 9 or by 10 just kidding...

Very strange I suppose its possible the CPU was holding me back but ...hmmm

I will try one of my Evga 680i A1 boards with a Q6600 under phase and see how it does because I am very perplexed now.


CPUZ Validation @ 9 x 450 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=223749

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/intel-cpus/53312-hey-slacr-go-higher-q6600-g0-3825orthosr.jpg?d=1186106752


http://www.overclock.net/attachments/intel-cpus/53239-hey-slacr-go-higher-q6600-g0-q66004ghz.jpg?d=1186003860


Air cooled G0 stepping. I also use the 8x multi around 475fsb for 3.8ghz. I think my Sandra score on that like 70k? on processor arithmetic?

Also why does my bios report .02 to .03 lower vcore than whats measured in windows via speedfan or everest?

For example on the screen at 4.05ghz vcore in the bios is measured at 1.55v not 1.58. anyone know which is right????

Brother Esau
08-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Cool looking good guys:D hopefully its just my particular chip and it gets resolved with the Q6600 G0:rolleyes:

turtletrax
08-04-2007, 05:46 PM
Closing in on 3.825 Ghz needing 1.48Vcore, RAM running 900Mhz.

Settings are

Vcore 1.53125
FSB 1.5
Mem at 2.1
SPP 1.55
MCP 1.65
HT 1.55

Using the 9 multi still so that puts me at 425 FSB.

sofarfrome
08-04-2007, 06:01 PM
Just finished up my testing at 3.6GHz with some Orthos overnight.

Only testing 2 cores?

Metric
08-04-2007, 06:13 PM
Only testing 2 cores?
Don't have any screenshots, but ran FAH SMP @ 100% stable for over 8 hours last night :)

NCspecV81
08-04-2007, 06:21 PM
I did run OCCT at 3.6ghz overnight 7+ hours before I stopped it and voltages were 1.38v at idle according to the bios. Also IF vdroop is the same in the bios as speedfan indicates in windows, that puts voltage at 1.35-1.36v at full load.

PCTools
08-04-2007, 06:25 PM
Well, here is my results on the EVGA 680i Motherboard with the B3 Stepping.

I am unable to use the 8X Multiplier over a FSB of 1800. The EVGA board will post the double dash (--) on the diagnostic LEDS. I can get a boot and run in Windows at 3.8Ghz, but it is NOT stable to run 3DMark06 or SuperPi. Aslo, I noticed the Ethernet Ports began to shut down at this high overclock.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2097/18924ud9.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5881/1350superpiqy1.jpg

It appears to me that my SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores are on the LOW side compared to other systems of this caliber.

Any feedback, on which driver is the best for the 3DMark06 Scores in a WINXP 32 environment?

Also, the Video Cards are OC'd to 650/1050.

EVGA nForce 680i - P30 Bios
Q6600 @ 3.70Ghz @ 35° C (B3 - Stepping)
4 Gig Corsair Dom. 8500C5D 5-5-5-5 15T
2x 74G WD Raptor RAID 0
1 74G WD Raptor - Image Drive
1 150G WD Raptor - Vista Ultimate 64
2x EVGA 8800 GTX Superclocked
2x DD-8800 GTX Water Blocks
Thermaltake Kandalf LCS
Thermaltake 850 Watts
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Logitech G15 Keyboard
Logitech G5 Laser
Plextor PX712UF
Plextor PX760A

3dMark 2006 - 18,924
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...UID=10341 810

NCspecV81
08-04-2007, 06:27 PM
Well, here is my results on the EVGA 680i Motherboard with the B3 Stepping.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2097/18924ud9.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5881/1350superpiqy1.jpg

It appears to me that my SM2.0 and SM3.0 scores are on the LOW side compared to other systems of this caliber.

Any feedback, on which driver is the best for the 3DMark06 Scores in a WINXP 32 environment?

Also, the Video Cards are OC'd to 650/1050.

EVGA nForce 680i - P30 Bios
Q6600 @ 3.70Ghz @ 35° C
4 Gig Corsair Dom. 8500C5D 5-5-5-5 15T
2x 74G WD Raptor RAID 0
1 74G WD Raptor - Image Drive
1 150G WD Raptor - Vista Ultimate 64
2x EVGA 8800 GTX Superclocked
2x DD-8800 GTX Water Blocks
Thermaltake Kandalf LCS
Thermaltake 850 Watts
Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Logitech G15 Keyboard
Logitech G5 Laser
Plextor PX712UF
Plextor PX760A

3dMark 2006 - 18,924
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/re...UID=10341 810


NICE! I thought my score was bad on 3dmark06 but it looks like my 320's can pace some gtx's! sweeeeeeeeet! great score btw!


http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2638937

for some reason it says my cpu speed was 4.2ghz which is not correct. It was 3.8ghz. I dont think it was detecting i was using the 8x multi. so who knows!

turtletrax
08-04-2007, 06:35 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/turtletrax/Q6600Verification.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/turtletrax/Q664GhzSuperPi32M.jpg

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2651812

;)

Edit. Looks like it is stable enough to run 3dMark 06 :)

PCTools
08-04-2007, 06:38 PM
You would have been better off buying your processor at ClubIt. They advertise the product as G0, and in stock!!!!

Link - http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1938452
$300 Delivered

Are the Tank Guys in the Toliet Tank? (Check the DUMP file)


Just checked the updated Dump File for Q6600 G0 Pre Orders from Tank Guys and I am # 144 out of the 150 first shipment they are recieving into inventory on the 10-12th:up: :cord: :cord: :cord: :cord: :cord: :cord: :D

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 06:55 PM
CPUZ Validation @ 9 x 450 http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=223749

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/intel-cpus/53312-hey-slacr-go-higher-q6600-g0-3825orthosr.jpg?d=1186106752


http://www.overclock.net/attachments/intel-cpus/53239-hey-slacr-go-higher-q6600-g0-q66004ghz.jpg?d=1186003860


Air cooled G0 stepping. I also use the 8x multi around 475fsb for 3.8ghz. I think my Sandra score on that like 70k? on processor arithmetic?

Also why does my bios report .02 to .03 lower vcore than whats measured in windows via speedfan or everest?

For example on the screen at 4.05ghz vcore in the bios is measured at 1.55v not 1.58. anyone know which is right????


yeah i can vaildate no sweat wirh air and 9x450. try wprime then. :p:

NCspecV81
08-04-2007, 07:07 PM
yeah i can vaildate no sweat wirh air and 9x450. try wprime then. :p:


haha dont get me wrong. 4ghz is stable on dual orthos for about 3 minutes! =o)

Brother Esau
08-04-2007, 08:03 PM
You would have been better off buying your processor at ClubIt. They advertise the product as G0, and in stock!!!!

Link - http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1938452
$300 Delivered

Are the Tank Guys are in the Toliet Tank? (Check the DUMP file)
Now, that was completely inappropriate and uncalled for!
I'll have you know that the man running Tank Guys is very on top of his game and goes out of his way to make his customers happy! I would not have canceled my order with Ben even if my current chip was a G0 instead of a B3 Stepping only because I put myself on the list and I also see how far that man goes out of his way to make his customers happy and does allot of work to make it happen in the process. Do you have any idea just how much phone time is involved for item specific products especially when every one wants one and is asking you about it every day? ALLOT and more than you want to know . You would know that if you have run a business before!!!:clap: :clap:

PCTools
08-04-2007, 08:04 PM
I wanted to inquire on how you guys were successful at getting the EVGA board to take a 8X Multi with the Q6600 over a 1800FSB? I am unable to achieve this on two A1 Boards. I can get 3.6 Ghz, but nothing more...

nugzo
08-04-2007, 08:21 PM
I wanted to inquire on how you guys were successful at getting the EVGA board to take a 8X Multi with the Q6600 over a 1800FSB? I am unable to achieve this on two A1 Boards. I can get 3.6 Ghz, but nothing more...

Good chance that your chip is maxed. 3600 would be a 50% OC. What are your volts, temps and cooling? B3 or G0 ? what batch?

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 09:00 PM
I wanted to inquire on how you guys were successful at getting the EVGA board to take a 8X Multi with the Q6600 over a 1800FSB? I am unable to achieve this on two A1 Boards. I can get 3.6 Ghz, but nothing more...

i dont see the relevance of the multiplyer if you are talking about finding the motherbaord limit. a mobo will do 7x as well as it can do 8x with same frequency as long as the CPU is capable.(this isnt nforce2).obviously you are in the CPU dependent territotry when you are aiming for high overclocks. makes more sense to drop the multi and find your motherboard/cpu max FSB frequency then up the multi nce you know it.

NCspecV81
08-04-2007, 09:06 PM
ive ran 8x 1900 QDR which is 3.8ghz on this q6600. Stability started to become an issue at that fSB however. Instead of full stability occt/orthos overnight at 3.825ghz with the 9x multi , the 8x multi and 1900 QDR would only be stable around 1hr in Orthos. SO I'm blaming it on the motherboard.

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 09:30 PM
ive ran 8x 1900 QDR which is 3.8ghz on this q6600. Stability started to become an issue at that fSB however. Instead of full stability occt/orthos overnight at 3.825ghz with the 9x multi , the 8x multi and 1900 QDR would only be stable around 1hr in Orthos. SO I'm blaming it on the motherboard.

makes sense. how high can you get on 7 multi FSB wise?

PCTools
08-04-2007, 09:36 PM
Hmmm.. With my E6300, I used a FSB of 2055. This Q6600 at 8X I just can't get past 1800FSB. I agree, it must be a CPU restriction.

Thanks for all the fast posts to my question.


i dont see the relevance of the multiplyer if you are talking about finding the motherbaord limit. a mobo will do 7x as well as it can do 8x with same frequency as long as the CPU is capable.(this isnt nforce2).obviously you are in the CPU dependent territotry when you are aiming for high overclocks. makes more sense to drop the multi and find your motherboard/cpu max FSB frequency then up the multi nce you know it.

pumbertot
08-04-2007, 10:43 PM
Hmmm.. With my E6300, I used a FSB of 2055. This Q6600 at 8X I just can't get past 1800FSB. I agree, it must be a CPU restriction.

Thanks for all the fast posts to my question.


try 7x and see if you can get above 1800FSB on the board.

NCspecV81
08-06-2007, 06:40 PM
OCCT stable for 5+hrs before I stopped it.

Dropped down to 8x multi. CPUZ is the right clock speed measurement as it seems dropping a multi has caused OCCT and coretemp to reflect oddities in the measurements.

Also real voltage according to the bios is .02 lower than the speedfan reading. so 1.41v on load.

aka1nas
08-08-2007, 12:12 AM
Brother Esau, what was your final verdict on the P30 BIOS revision?

I finally got my build together today and am still running the P26 revision that the board came flashed with. What version can handle Quads best right now?

NCspecV81
08-08-2007, 07:31 AM
p30 is where its at for the quads aka1nas. I highly suggest updating as that is what bios I'm using.

icon57
08-08-2007, 07:51 AM
i usually stay with the most current bios myself, so far p30 has been good for me, but i havent got my q6600 yet...so on my x6800 its got me to a higher fsb (490) before that 470, was the highest i could go...

aka1nas
08-08-2007, 09:08 AM
Well, I ended up doing some BIOS flashing last night and tried P30. With P26, I was at least able to boot into windows at 333x9. With P30, I couldn't even get that high.:(

I ended up trying P28 after that, and so far I am passing Prime @333x9. With either of these BIOS revisions, I seem to hit a FSB wall around 1400FSB. I tried an 8x and 6x multiplier, but the BIOS never gets past the initial CPU speed detection if I take the FSB any higher.

How accurate is the vCore measurement from CPU-Z or Speedfan for this board? If I set it to 1.3v in the BIOS, I end up with 1.25v-1.26v on idle in Windows and more like 1.23v on load.

Brother Esau
08-08-2007, 09:34 AM
Brother Esau, what was your final verdict on the P30 BIOS revision?

I finally got my build together today and am still running the P26 revision that the board came flashed with. What version can handle Quads best right now?


Ummm...kinda hard to tell at the moment due to what appears to be a limiting factor with this B3 I have in my sig. But I will have my Q6600 G0 Stepping come monday I should imagine as it was shipped today, so I will post some screen shots of O.C with the chip as I progress. I can tell you now (P30) is good for Dual Core Chips but I cannot seem to get past 3.2ghz stable with my current Q6600 B3 and it does not seem to like a lower multi either so at this point could be the Processor or could be the board I don't know!

I was able to run 475 FSB 10 =hrs Prime Stable with my E6420 on (P30) with low voltage so I know my board does high FSB with ease but as stated not too sure of its capabilities with Quad Core ATM and unfortunately all of the ....Testing>>> I have done on this Bios was not Overclocking related it was Item specific more so for Add In Raid Controller Cards and other oddities I perhaps might notice allong the way.

Ic3man
08-08-2007, 01:11 PM
Closing in on 3.825 Ghz needing 1.48Vcore, RAM running 900Mhz.

Settings are

Vcore 1.53125
FSB 1.5
Mem at 2.1
SPP 1.55
MCP 1.65
HT 1.55

Using the 9 multi still so that puts me at 425 FSB.

Did you need to raise the SPP,MCP and HT voltages to get stability Turtletrax? Did you add a 2nd PSU or are you still with the zeus? What do you think sorted the problems you were having out?

I ask becuase I have vitrually the same rig but a Qx6700 on the way.

nugzo
08-08-2007, 03:24 PM
How accurate is the vCore measurement from CPU-Z or Speedfan for this board? If I set it to 1.3v in the BIOS, I end up with 1.25v-1.26v on idle in Windows and more like 1.23v on load.

your bios, windows, and load voltages are the norm for EVGA 680i's. I use everest or speedfan to monitor voltages in windows. I'v yet to see cpu-z show correct voltage. speedfan and everest show identical voltages.

turtletrax
08-08-2007, 04:08 PM
Did you need to raise the SPP,MCP and HT voltages to get stability Turtletrax? Did you add a 2nd PSU or are you still with the zeus? What do you think sorted the problems you were having out?

I ask becuase I have vitrually the same rig but a Qx6700 on the way.

Ya, I had to crank allot of voltage to to the MCH, SPP, and HT to get into windows even. Also found I had to lower the MCP and SPP links to 3x to get stable at 4.0Ghz.

I am still with the Zeus 750. Problems vanished as quickly as they aroze. I have no idea what was up with that. PSU is rock stable now as it was in any other build I had it in. Very odd....

Ic3man
08-08-2007, 04:12 PM
Cool. Hope I can get 4ghz with my quad :eek2:

Flinch
08-08-2007, 05:46 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm having some growing pains with my 680i A1(P30) and G0.

My E6600 runs @ 3.6 no problem. I had a B3 that would run 3.2. Since then I've purchased 2 G0's, this is what's interesting. Neither one of them will get me past 1200 fsb regardless of what voltages I throw at'em, if it's under 1200 fsb then all is well, but the minute I go over it, I get BSOD's with *hardware failure*

I tried it out on a P35 Gigabyte DS3L and oc'd to 3.2 without issue.

The common denominator is the G0. Called evga on it, and they're testing the new stepping to see if they can replicate. At this point, it appears to be a board issue.

nullptr
08-08-2007, 05:52 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm having some growing pains with my 680i A1(P30) and G0.

My E6600 runs @ 3.6 no problem. I had a B3 that would run 3.2. Since then I've purchased 2 G0's, this is what's interesting. Neither one of them will get me past 1200 fsb regardless of what voltages I throw at'em, if it's under 1200 fsb then all is well, but the minute I go over it, I get BSOD's with *hardware failure*

I tried it out on a P35 Gigabyte DS3L and oc'd to 3.2 without issue.

The common denominator is the G0. Called evga on it, and they're testing the new stepping to see if they can replicate. At this point, it appears to be a board issue.

I saw a post in another forum that NVIDIA was working on a BIOS update for the G0 quads. Until then, I'm running @ 1200 FSB with RAM at DDR2 800. Still fast as poop, but faster is always good :)

nugzo
08-08-2007, 06:01 PM
@turtle.... Do you have the 570 or 590 MCP on your EVGA? Is your board retail or an RMA'd board? It seems most of the RMA's are 570.

Flinch
08-08-2007, 06:16 PM
I saw a post in another forum that NVIDIA was working on a BIOS update for the G0 quads. Until then, I'm running @ 1200 FSB with RAM at DDR2 800. Still fast as poop, but faster is always good :)

Thanks nullptr,

I hope that helps, but I have a feeling my issue won't be fixed with a bios update, the fsb just doesn't want to go.

AcuraDC5
08-08-2007, 07:35 PM
Subscribed!

pumbertot
08-09-2007, 07:34 AM
GO Q6600 running as well as the B3 QX6700. ;)
http://uk.geocities.com/pumbertot.1@btopenworld.com/q6600.jpg

nugzo
08-09-2007, 10:35 AM
Ok i'm a little happier now. My 3rd G0 is clocking as i was hoping for on the EVGA. The first 2 (L723,L724) i couldn't get stable even at 3200mhz on this board. My tank guys L724 just arrived today and i'm priming now at 3700 mhz 463*8 at 1.55v Bios, 1.50v windows 1.46v loaded small fft's. Temps fluctuate between 55-64c. I may be able to lower vcore, 1.55 was just my starting point.
I'll post screenies and benchmarks after testing some more.

turtletrax
08-09-2007, 10:47 AM
@turtle.... Do you have the 570 or 590 MCP on your EVGA? Is your board retail or an RMA'd board? It seems most of the RMA's are 570.



I have a 590 MCP and it is retail from the shelf. I bought it and had one that was acting quite funky, so I took it back to the retailer and got another retail box.

I am going to lose 2GB of ram and go back to XP and really go for max clocks on proc and RAM. Have me a little benchfest, see what I can get. I am hoping for over 15,500 single card in '06.

nugzo
08-09-2007, 12:36 PM
good luck on 15,500. i just hit 14,654 @3700mhz Default settings on the ultra.

Flinch
08-09-2007, 05:05 PM
My boards dead, it *locked* itself to a 26x multi :shocked: that's why it wouldn't boot, just didn't want to fire up a little over 8ghz.

Now, I have to clear the cmos every time to reboot in order for it to start, and will only run @ 1.6ghz, which is where it locked itself....give it an hour and it may once again change the multi.

Pansuu
08-09-2007, 05:25 PM
@turtle.... Do you have the 570 or 590 MCP on your EVGA? Is your board retail or an RMA'd board? It seems most of the RMA's are 570.
Is there differenties for fsb clocking?

nullptr
08-09-2007, 05:27 PM
My boards dead, it *locked* itself to a 26x multi :shocked: that's why it wouldn't boot, just didn't want to fire up a little over 8ghz.

Now, I have to clear the cmos every time to reboot in order for it to start, and will only run @ 1.6ghz, which is where it locked itself....give it an hour and it may once again change the multi.

I had the 26x multi on the shipped P27 BIOS, but after flashing P30 it was recognized properly. I think it's pretty common.

XandeR803
08-09-2007, 05:40 PM
I've got my G0 Q6600 running at ~3.6 (407*9) unlinked with mem set at 1067

Settings are

Vcore 1.55 (1.52 in windows and 1.48 under full load)
FSB 1.5
Mem at 2.2
SPP 1.5
MCP 1.65
HT 1.5

Flinch
08-09-2007, 06:16 PM
I had the 26x multi on the shipped P27 BIOS, but after flashing P30 it was recognized properly. I think it's pretty common.

I've had P30 since the day it was released, there is others right now experiencing the same problem at evga's forums.

nugzo
08-09-2007, 06:33 PM
Is there differenties for fsb clocking?

on C2D some said 590 was better for FSB. I've had both @500 with a e6600. I haven't read or heard of anything "official" though.

nugzo
08-09-2007, 06:34 PM
I've had P30 since the day it was released, there is others right now experiencing the same problem at evga's forums.

I've had a flag in device manager on 2 different boards with the P30. Do you have that same problem?

Flinch
08-09-2007, 06:45 PM
Yup, fortunately, over time it's gone away.

turtletrax
08-09-2007, 06:50 PM
good luck on 15,500. i just hit 14,654 @3700mhz Default settings on the ultra.

I think I can do it. I got 14,500 without my pencil mods on Vista. Also had loose timings on 4GB of RAM. Also hadnt tweaked my drivers for 3D at all either. XP/2GB RAM/tweaked/Pencil mods/4Ghz Q6600=pretty fast in my book.

Will let you know.

nugzo
08-09-2007, 08:54 PM
I think I can do it. I got 14,500 without my pencil mods on Vista. Also had loose timings on 4GB of RAM. Also hadnt tweaked my drivers for 3D at all either. XP/2GB RAM/tweaked/Pencil mods/4Ghz Q6600=pretty fast in my book.

Will let you know.

U talking about pencil mods for the EVGA 680? If so, would you link me to them please. Thanks :yepp:

zettahertz
08-09-2007, 08:59 PM
I got a Q6600 with evga A1 and I am STUCK!! I can't get this fricken motherboard to even POST past 1500qfsb. It's making me mad. And the CPU has a lot of potential i know. I can only run this thing < 3.4GHz. The CPU temps r no where near high and I have a swiftech water cooling, all for basically nothing because of this crappy FSB limit.

I tried maxing out all the voltages for motherboard (FSB,SPP,MCP). tried unlinked with RAM at 800/1066. tried 3X PCIe<->MCP multipliers tried 8X CPU multiplier, turned basically everything u can disable to disabled in the overclocking menus and it still can't post at 1501qfsb. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: wish i can exchange and try another board.

zettahertz
08-09-2007, 09:36 PM
ok... that was weird... huge FSB hole. running at 3.55 now. things in between doesn't work... whew, thought i had a dud board.

aka1nas
08-09-2007, 09:49 PM
Are you running the P30 BIOS?

If that's a B3 stepping, you're probably at the limit of the chip.

You also might need to up your FSB voltage up to 1.4v to get that high.

turtletrax
08-09-2007, 09:53 PM
U talking about pencil mods for the EVGA 680? If so, would you link me to them please. Thanks :yepp:

Sorry Nuzgo, I am talking pencil mods for the GTX. The are really simple pencil mods for Vdimm and Vcore. Highest I had the clocks were 710/1140 and there was room for more voltage. Dont want to smoke the card but I think I can get more from it :p:

Has anyone found a workaround for droop on the 680i or is it a regulation problem?

nugzo
08-09-2007, 09:53 PM
I'm not doin so bad in the FSB department with my A1 570 MCP

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1857/fsb8xpc5.jpg

strange|ife
08-10-2007, 12:25 AM
sorry no results here. i chucked my 650i board.

i was a long time nvidia supporter on the AMD front, and for the most part didnt have any problems, ever since nforce 2 days. Except the blased a8n32 dlx, which i still have chillin in a closet lol..waste!

i went over to intel 6 months ago, and went through 2 EVGA's..within 2 weeks. Nothing but headaches, and smashing my fist on my desk. i then bought the p5n32plus..worked for 2 months, and then became flakey, the board still runs though..just became a flake.

my advice, i would probably wait it out for x38 if you already have nvidia stuff at this point.

or you could go ip35 pro, or p5k. ALOT less stress in your life.

*knock on wood*

Gunslinger
08-10-2007, 06:33 AM
I too have a huge FSB hole between 1500 and 1600. I've got my Q6700 at 3.55GHz, Orthos stable but that's as far as I can go at the moment.
If you have links for the 8800 pencil mod, I am interested. Also, any links for pencil mod of 680i would be helpful as well.

turtletrax
08-10-2007, 06:42 AM
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4296 ;)

SmokeyTheBandit
08-10-2007, 11:21 AM
I got mine stable finally ! :yepp:

Have got a go with the extremely good priced LT so i bought the EVGA.
Is selling in germany for only 100 Euro :up:

First impression is the simple bios with a few less options than his big brother.
But as i read on the EVGA forum you can flash the LT with the bios of his big brother as long as you force the flashing through awdflash.

This gives you a few more voltage uptions and also ups the MCP voltage to 1.75 Max (LT default is max 1.4V)

Got up to this now :)
I am realy pleased with the following result :clap:

http://img18.imagevenue.com/loc848/th_73600_450_Stable_122_848lo.JPG (http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=73600_450_Stable_122_848lo.JPG)

Don't put the LT in the discount bin just yet ! :cool:

nugzo
08-10-2007, 12:24 PM
I'm 10+ hours orthos small fft stable @ 3700mhz, 10 loops of 3dmark 06 stable, No general crashes or issues at all untill loading up counter strike source. I had to drop OC to 3300mhz before lock ups stopped. How are you guys with 3600+ doin in games? You'd think if it looped 3dmark and passed orthos like it does, css would be no problem.

icon57
08-10-2007, 12:47 PM
^^^ true....
was that the only game that locked up? try a few others and let us know...

hifiking
08-10-2007, 02:25 PM
I got a X3210 and an EVGA 680i. A1.

1.6 vcore set in BIOS, 1.54 real.

Watercooled and lapped, 3,5GHz stable at nearly 70C load. Coretemp

All other volts at auto.

The board is in for RMA because when I set the RAM volt to the default for my chips the board have loads of errors in memtest.

Phasecooling is heading this way, so when I get my new 680i back I will try higher volts on the X3210.

Metric
08-10-2007, 05:28 PM
How are you guys with 3600+ doin in games? You'd think if it looped 3dmark and passed orthos like it does, css would be no problem.
Hosted a 2 vs 2 vs 2 vs 2 Supreme Commander game (Supreme AI, 1000 unit cap, 60km x 60km map) with a friend a few days ago with zero hiccups at my current settings in my sig :up:

Other news, was able to boot at 450FSB @ 8x multi. Willing be posting results later this weekend.

Hifiking: What RAM are you using? If it's anywhere over DDR2-800, you're probably erroring in MemTest due to lower-than-recommended voltage for your memory (EVGA 680i defaults at 1.85v for RAM if I recall correctly, which in many cases isn't enough for DDR2-1000 if that's what you're running).

politenessman
08-11-2007, 06:43 AM
l723a. vid= 1.2000v

wont post at 9x400, but ok at 8x450. 1.45v vcore in bios, 1.37v in windows. temperatures absolutely nuts, like 50c idle, 75c load with ultra 120. hs/f making good contact, sometimes is actually hot to the touch!! i can see where this is heading. considering spending around $150 on a p35 board, which is a shame, this board has been flawless since november, and overclocks my g0 stepping 6850 great. any sugggestions on a p35 board around $150 ? no msi plse.

zodduska
08-11-2007, 11:13 AM
Q6600 B3
Evga 8800 GTS 640 @ 640 x 1000
Ballistix 2GB 1066
Corsair 620HX
Air Cooled with Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme (lapped for 5 hours)


here are the results of my humble B3:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3503/3712ctk0.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5143/37123d2k6xv2.jpg

But it seems no matter what I do I cant get this B3 prime95 small fft stable above 3.3ghz, so I dropped the multi down to 8 :(

edit:
these are the bios voltages, except cpu is now at a lower multi so lower vcore too.. it was at 1.6v
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9939/zvoltssf0.jpg

Metric
08-11-2007, 04:14 PM
3.7GHz [411 x 9]. Voltages haven't changed since my previous 3.6GHz post.

Some benches (SuperPI, wPrime & 3DMark 2006): http://images1.filecloud.com/554865/evga_680i_3700.png (large image 1920x1080)

AcuraDC5
08-11-2007, 05:44 PM
What programs should I use to overclock and test stability? I have the A1 revision and a G0 stepping?]\

Btw, I read the stickies but I was wondering what people with the same parts as me were using.

Metric
08-11-2007, 06:14 PM
What programs should I use to overclock and test stability? I have the A1 revision and a G0 stepping?]\

Btw, I read the stickies but I was wondering what people with the same parts as me were using.
Overclocking:

CPU - BIOS
GPU - SysTool/ATITrayTool/RivaTuner

Stability:

wPrime -32M Test.
Prime95/Orthos - 4 threads, 8 hours minimum.
3DMark - At least 3 cycles or more.
Stanford's Folding@Home SMP Client - 6+ hours w/ "-forceasm" flag
SuperPi - Couple 32M runs, one for each core.

nugzo
08-12-2007, 08:58 AM
I'm 10+ hours orthos small fft stable @ 3700mhz, 10 loops of 3dmark 06 stable, No general crashes or issues at all untill loading up counter strike source. I had to drop OC to 3300mhz before lock ups stopped. How are you guys with 3600+ doin in games? You'd think if it looped 3dmark and passed orthos like it does, css would be no problem.

I think this may be a video card issue. Now i cant do 5 loops of 3dmark 06 at cpu default settings. I took my water blocks off a month ago and maybe i didnt get stock hs fan back on correctly. I've reseated 3 times yesterday using various thermal compounds..(including old thermal pads) Better but still locking up. I'll have my RMA'd ultra back monday to verify. Off topic i know but does anybody know where i can get some thick thermal pads for the memory?

Back on topic. I used Turtles voltages( fsb 1.5, spp 1.55, mcp 1.65, ht 1.55) to get 18hours prime stable @ 3700mhz. I am not using water on the chipsets lke he is but i am using after market HS and Fans on the north and south bridge. Swiftech MCX159-CU Copper C110 Fan&Heatsink and Evercool Twinkling VGA Cooler. I do not think the stock Heat pipe solution can handle those voltages.

zodduska
08-12-2007, 01:28 PM
what are you guys using to monitor Chipset temps? Speedfan shows an impossibly low system temp for me, and I assume Everest "motherboard temp" (the same shown in NVmonitor) is ambient.. because it never seems to rise with load.. the only place I can find this temp sensor is in the bios. :confused:

ketchupwfries
08-12-2007, 07:43 PM
Back on topic. I used Turtles voltages( fsb 1.5, spp 1.55, mcp 1.65, ht 1.55) to get 18hours prime stable @ 3700mhz.

I used these same exact voltages with my 3.6 OC. I'm stable using Prime95 for nearly 2 hours, but when I enter a game... *crash & reboot*. Lower my OC and the problem is gone :shrug:

I'd post screens but these are the same voltages. I'm at 9x400 and RAM at 2.1v 4-4-4-12 timings.

Any input? My BIOS is at P30. Thanks!:yepp:

nugzo
08-12-2007, 08:42 PM
I used these same exact voltages with my 3.6 OC. I'm stable using Prime95 for nearly 2 hours, but when I enter a game... *crash & reboot*. Lower my OC and the problem is gone :shrug:

I'd post screens but these are the same voltages. I'm at 9x400 and RAM at 2.1v 4-4-4-12 timings.

Any input? My BIOS is at P30. Thanks!:yepp:

2hrs prime stable does not mean your stable. You need to be able to run 8+ hrs with no issues. And even that does not guarantee stability.

GAR
08-15-2007, 10:12 AM
2hrs prime stable does not mean your stable. You need to be able to run 8+ hrs with no issues. And even that does not guarantee stability.

Prime95 isnt the only way to test stability...ive had prime stable comps at 8+ plus but fail ingame arfter 20 mins.

icon57
08-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Prime95 isnt the only way to test stability...ive had prime stable comps at 8+ plus but fail ingame arfter 20 mins.


ive had prime fail instantly, yet i could game for HOURS and never a single crash...weird.
test for stability 460 x 8
will post back, with results

speedfreak86
08-15-2007, 06:24 PM
Here is my 24-7 crunching overclock, it has been running 100% on all four for about 28 hours now:

icon57
08-16-2007, 03:50 AM
I'm 10+ hours orthos small fft stable @ 3700mhz, 10 loops of 3dmark 06 stable, No general crashes or issues at all untill loading up counter strike source. I had to drop OC to 3300mhz before lock ups stopped. How are you guys with 3600+ doin in games? You'd think if it looped 3dmark and passed orthos like it does, css would be no problem.


no joy...i woke this morning to bsod "machine_check_exception" while running prime for an overnight run at numbers listed in sig.

however, long gaming session last night on bf2 and no issues at all, or in any other ares, just cant orthos, or prime

any ideas....anyone?

GAR
08-16-2007, 08:23 AM
This is what i got so far, and seems to be the max......i might be able to hit 3.6 with water......preety good chip for a B3....both cpu and heatsink have been lapped. It is P95 stable....1.47v with vdroop.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2463/680igc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

icon57
08-16-2007, 11:57 AM
nice work Gar! thats a nice b3 you have there!

Pansuu
08-16-2007, 01:37 PM
Does anybody know Vdroop mod to A1 revision?

GAR
08-16-2007, 02:14 PM
nice work Gar! thats a nice b3 you have there!

Thanks bro!! wish it would do 3.6ghz but ill settle for 3.5 :] cant have the cake and eat it to. :rofl:

skndvr
08-16-2007, 06:15 PM
Ill take that anyday. and on air? geez, how do you like the 120? got rid of the zalman, hey?

Brother Esau
08-16-2007, 06:41 PM
Sorry guys looks like the starter of the thread has to remove himself from the festivities due to Mobo troubles yet again! I am also switching boards due to the frequency of the RMA involvement with this board as this will be number 3 in three months and I cannot be bothered with that

NKD
08-16-2007, 07:01 PM
welcome to club, 6 evga board i went through in 6 months, when someone tells me this is a trouble free board i tell them good luck and i hope it stays that way,

Metric
08-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Sorry guys looks like the starter of the thread has to remove himself from the festivities due to Mobo troubles yet again! I am also switching boards due to the frequency of the RMA involvement with this board as this will be number 3 in three months and I cannot be bothered with that
That crazy, since I'm still running perfectly stable with my current mobo, and been running it since November when it came out :confused: Seems like a real hit or miss with these, both in overclocking and manufacturing quality...

GAR - Nice overclock :clap: Do you have any CoreTemp screenies? Speedfan reports 15c too low by default (unless you fixed that already)

Ic3man
08-17-2007, 04:07 AM
QX6700 ES @ 3.6ghz 1.53vcore - 12hr p95 stable



Failed prime after 7hrs with 1.45 so upped it to 1.53 to be sure. Passed now so I can lower the vcore back down a little and test again. Not bad vdroop either - 0.032. Vdrop however is worse than the dual cores - 0.075 :eek:

Load

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/webbo10/q360012hr.jpg

Idle

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/webbo10/q2hr36.jpg

Not a G0 nor a 6600 but hey for the price I paid I can't complain - not bad for a B3 chip (L632A865) :D

One thing I have noticed though is that when I get a failed overclock the board goes into '--' mode and at first I was having to reset the cmos and enter all the settings again. I have since just left the pc unplugged for around 2 mins and I can then get into bios without having to reset cmos to get it to boot.:mad:

I am also having power issues with the Zeus 750w. Whenever I power off and power back on again the motherboard reacts as though there is a short (there is none) and I again have to wait a minute with it unplugged until it will power back up.:confused:

icon57
08-17-2007, 04:18 AM
Sorry guys looks like the starter of the thread has to remove himself from the festivities due to Mobo troubles yet again! I am also switching boards due to the frequency of the RMA involvement with this board as this will be number 3 in three months and I cannot be bothered with that

hey man...sorry to hear of your troubles with your mobo, whats going on now?
stiill glad you started this thread, it been helpful to us 680i/quad owners.

after messing with various overclocks, and never being one to have to much patience for waiting :p: i always jump up into higher oc's right away.

my clocks were not stable...so i am now working my way up slowly.
hard to tell if it my cpu, ram or mobo....
i was thinking about the gigabyte dq6...but for now i will stay put with what i have for awhile, and see what Q4 brings us...newer things are right around the corner...

nullptr
08-17-2007, 08:37 AM
Got my Q6600 G0 to 3.2 prime stable. My board seems to like being at 1600fsb (huge FSB holes below that) ... the chip isn't quite ready for that at 9x though ... boots, and actually works fine, but can't prime past 20 minutes or so ... dropped to an 8x multiplier for 3.2, primed all night without breaking a sweat.

My original goal was 3.2, so I guess I'll stick around here for a while. Wish I could do it at 9x but that puts me in the rather large FSB dead zone. Plus side is my memory benchmarks nicer with the higher FSB.

Current voltages:

CPU - 1.4v (manual)
Memory - 2.1v (manual)
FSB - 1.4v (manual)

HT(SPP-MCP) - 1.2v (auto)
PCI-E - 1.4v (auto)
nForce - 1.5v (auto)
AUX - 1.5v (auto)

GAR
08-17-2007, 08:48 AM
OK, little issue im running into here, im using this setup, but sometimes my multiplier reverts back to 6x, here are what my volts are at

cpu = 1.57
vtt = 1.5
spp = 1.45
mcp = 1.6
HT = 1.5

all of the cpu features have been disabled, spread spectrum, speed step, vanderpool and etcc.... eevrything is disabled, i am running this setup here, it is prime stable PC is stable but sometimes when i start up the pc it just reverts to 6x multi instead of the 8 i have choosen in the bios?????

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2463/680igc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nullptr
08-17-2007, 08:58 AM
I've had the 6x issue a few times myself, a reboot has always fixed it (no settings changed).

pumbertot
08-17-2007, 09:11 AM
Does anybody know Vdroop mod to A1 revision?

isnt the pencil mod in the mod section?cant remember.

edit: here it is
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154897

turtletrax
08-17-2007, 09:14 AM
QX6700 ES @ 3.6ghz 1.53vcore - 12hr p95 stable



Failed prime after 7hrs with 1.45 so upped it to 1.53 to be sure. Passed now so I can lower the vcore back down a little and test again. Not bad vdroop either - 0.032. Vdrop however is worse than the dual cores - 0.075 :eek:

Load



Not a G0 nor a 6600 but hey for the price I paid I can't complain - not bad for a B3 chip (L632A865) :D

One thing I have noticed though is that when I get a failed overclock the board goes into '--' mode and at first I was having to reset the cmos and enter all the settings again. I have since just left the pc unplugged for around 2 mins and I can then get into bios without having to reset cmos to get it to boot.:mad:

I am also having power issues with the Zeus 750w. Whenever I power off and power back on again the motherboard reacts as though there is a short (there is none) and I again have to wait a minute with it unplugged until it will power back up.:confused:

Do you have your USB headers connected??? Try to remove them and see if your problem persists. I found that was my problem. Odd but true.

Also try lowering your SPP and MCP linkage to 4x. Seems to really help me in my 1600 QDR and up OC's.

I am running 3.6Ghz 1.37Vcore load(DMM) and 4Gb (GMH) @1066 5-5-5-11 and loads of 47-50c. Loving the idle temps of 28-32c.

Cant wait for penryn ;)

pumbertot
08-17-2007, 10:09 AM
QX6700 ES @ 3.6ghz 1.53vcore - 12hr p95 stable



Failed prime after 7hrs with 1.45 so upped it to 1.53 to be sure. Passed now so I can lower the vcore back down a little and test again. Not bad vdroop either - 0.032. Vdrop however is worse than the dual cores - 0.075 :eek:



vdroop mod it then. ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154897

GAR
08-17-2007, 10:14 AM
Ill take that anyday. and on air? geez, how do you like the 120? got rid of the zalman, hey?

The 120 is awsome bro, the zalman just wasnt getting the job done, the ULTRA 120 extreme is awsome, as long as you do the washer mod, or replace the screws.

Ic3man
08-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Do you have your USB headers connected??? Try to remove them and see if your problem persists. I found that was my problem. Odd but true.

Also try lowering your SPP and MCP linkage to 4x. Seems to really help me in my 1600 QDR and up OC's.

I am running 3.6Ghz 1.37Vcore load(DMM) and 4Gb (GMH) @1066 5-5-5-11 and loads of 47-50c. Loving the idle temps of 28-32c.

Cant wait for penryn ;)

Tried removing the USB headers but it didn't work for me. I also get the '--' from time to time, if I tap the psu then it kicks it into action so it looks like its a PSU problem :(. Got 4gb stable @3.6ghz though by raising the SPP a couple of notches (1.5) but the ram is only at stock for now.


vdroop mod it then. ;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154897

Anyone tried this? Possible with a pencil? I dont trust my soldering skills.

Brother Esau
08-17-2007, 02:59 PM
Ya USB on this board is aweful mine just decided to stop working the other day that is I mean all 4 of them blasted Foxcon with their sub par Sh*t!:down:

nugzo
08-17-2007, 04:28 PM
isnt the pencil mod in the mod section?cant remember.

edit: here it is
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=154897

I just tried that mod but with #2 pencil. It works outstanding. 1.50v bios, 1.50v windows and 1.51v loaded small fft!!!!!

GAR
08-17-2007, 05:12 PM
I just tried that mod but with #2 pencil. It works outstanding. 1.50v bios, 1.50v windows and 1.51v loaded small fft!!!!!

Just did the vdroop mod, took 1 minute, awsome, 1.47 bios, 1.47 windows, 1.48 load, nice!!!!!!!!! everyone should do this mod now!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :up: :shocked:

turtletrax
08-17-2007, 06:08 PM
Just did the vdroop mod, took 1 minute, awsome, 1.47 bios, 1.47 windows, 1.48 load, nice!!!!!!!!! everyone should do this mod now!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :up: :shocked:


I'll be damned. Gonna try this right now ;)

turtletrax
08-17-2007, 06:12 PM
Tried removing the USB headers but it didn't work for me. I also get the '--' from time to time, if I tap the psu then it kicks it into action so it looks like its a PSU problem :


That is so weird. I had the exact same problem with the ST75ZF/680i combo, but different causes. Too weird....

And about your ram I would try lowering your chipset links to 4x and run linked 4:3 (I think) and you will get 1066Mhz. I had to run 1.45 MCH and 2.05Vdimm to get stable. It wsa wierd that I actually had to lower my Vdimm and MCH voltages to get them to run stable.

If you need a list of my settings PM me and I will get them for you ;)

Edit: Did the drop mod and works flawlessly. The thing i hated the most about this board is finally gone!!! Yay!!!!

Ic3man
08-17-2007, 10:49 PM
.

If you need a list of my settings PM me and I will get them for you ;)

Edit: Did the drop mod and works flawlessly. The thing i hated the most about this board is finally gone!!! Yay!!!!

That would be very much appreciated if you don't mind m8.

As for the drop mod - Never done a volt mod so if you could guide me with kid gloves...

Will any pencil do, say a HB? I presume it needs to be a graphite pencil?
How many passes?
Lightly or hard?
Does it need any soldering?

Managed to do a 4gig PI run but its far from being p95 stable :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/webbo10/4gigquad.jpg

GAR
08-17-2007, 11:40 PM
Just pencil the 3 places that are shown in the picture, a #2 pencil will do just fine, worked fine for me.

turtletrax
08-17-2007, 11:54 PM
You shouldnt need the Vcore mod unless you are using Phase or L2N/DICE, correct? The board is capable of giving 1.7v+ to the core, so you would need extreme cooling for more.

GAR
08-18-2007, 12:03 AM
You shouldnt need the Vcore mod unless you are using Phase or L2N/DICE, correct? The board is capable of giving 1.7v+ to the core, so you would need extreme cooling for more.

Sure, but why would you want your cpu to idle at 1.5 volts and give you 1.4 under load, wouldnt you want it to be 1.4 idle, and 1.5 load, lower idle volt results in lower idle temps.....my idle temps went down quiet a bit, because in order for me to get 1.47 under load, i needed 1.53 at idle, that meant a higher idle temp wich sucked......now it sits at 1.46 at idle, and 1.47 under load, its awsome....takes 1 minute to do, and not harmful in any way at all, fully reversable with isopropyl alcohol.

turtletrax
08-18-2007, 12:13 AM
Sure, but why would you want your cpu to idle at 1.5 volts and give you 1.4 under load, wouldnt you want it to be 1.4 idle, and 1.5 load, lower idle volt results in lower idle temps.....my idle temps went down quiet a bit, because in order for me to get 1.47 under load, i needed 1.53 at idle, that meant a higher idle temp wich sucked......now it sits at 1.46 at idle, and 1.47 under load, its awsome....takes 1 minute to do, and not harmful in any way at all, fully reversable with isopropyl alcohol.


Yes the Vdrop mod does this, but the Vcore mod is for more voltage is it not? I might be misunderstanding what that mod is for. I did shade the resistor pictured by the CPU HS/fan header and accheived the results without having to shade the resistor near the DIMM slots.

I just dont want to advise people to shade a resistor that will give the proc more voltage that they dont know about.

nugzo
08-18-2007, 12:29 AM
Yes the Vdrop mod does this, but the Vcore mod is for more voltage is it not? I might be misunderstanding what that mod is for.
I did shade the resistor pictured by the CPU HS/fan header and accheived the results without having to shade the resistor near the DIMM slots.
I just dont want to advise people to shade a resistor that will give the proc more voltage that they dont know about.

I did mine exactly like you did turtle. You are correct about the vcore being for more voltage. Vdrop/vdroop is all we need with air/water








Will any pencil do, say a HB? I presume it needs to be a graphite pencil?
How many passes?
Lightly or hard?
Does it need any soldering?
No soldering needed. #2 HB works fine. Yes Graphite.
I shaded mine hard. about 20 full passes. I don't know if that's correct, but thats what i did and it works great.
( I just read in original vcore post to start with 3 light to medium pressure passes, then check bios vs windows voltage)
maybe you should start with 3 like suggested. You can always go back and add more if it's not right.
I just shaded between the 2 red X's. The blue says alternative.
I did not do the vcore mod, just the vdrop. I don't think you can do the vcore with a pencil.


http://www.abload.de/img/p8100013u64.jpg

Ic3man
08-18-2007, 01:40 AM
Excellent, thx for the advice guys:up:

I'll give it a go when I get a 2B pencil:cool:

uclajd
08-18-2007, 10:10 AM
Thanks for the clarification on the mod. Will stop by Office Depot today as I know they have the 2B's. Got a EVGA 6801/Q6600 project this weekend for a friend. Wish me luck!

GAR
08-18-2007, 10:26 AM
Thanks for the clarification on the mod. Will stop by Office Depot today as I know they have the 2B's. Got a EVGA 6801/Q6600 project this weekend for a friend. Wish me luck!

a #2 pencil works like a charm :up:

Ic3man
08-18-2007, 11:26 AM
Decided to go the #2 route (HB in UK btw) due to not having a 2b and being eager to get it on.

Worked a charm, no more drop, no more droop :up:

Nater
08-18-2007, 11:54 AM
ugh, i'm gonna sell my P5N32-E, it's annoying as hell.

How high did you get the FSB with a quad? Mine won't go over 316MHz. I've got a IP35-Pro on the way.

St3vil_68
08-18-2007, 12:10 PM
:clap: This was fast, easy and eliminated my vdroop! Thanks!

nugzo
08-18-2007, 02:01 PM
Decided to go the #2 route (HB in UK btw) due to not having a 2b and being eager to get it on.

Worked a charm, no more drop, no more droop :up:

Yeah #2 HB is all i could find. Did the trick better than expected.

Brother Esau
08-18-2007, 02:58 PM
Meh....my EVGA 680i A1 shows no love for Quad Core overclocking!:down:

GAR
08-18-2007, 03:52 PM
Meh....my EVGA 680i A1 shows no love for Quad Core overclocking!:down:

Youre doing something wrong, i have had 4 680i boards, and they all clock the same, same fsb holes, same everything, make sure your vtt/fsb voltage is at 1.5 thats most important with quads. :confused:

Brother Esau
08-18-2007, 04:06 PM
Sorry thats already been explored also dropping the HT multi to X4 as well and this board has the exact same cut off point as my B3 & G0

nugzo
08-18-2007, 05:17 PM
I've also tried 4 different evga a1's in the past 2 weeks. 1 out of 4 gave me 465fsb on quad. the others will get me there but not stable. the other 3 were identical to each other as far as holes and fsb.

Brother Esau
08-18-2007, 05:32 PM
Heck I cannot even get decent FSB by dropping the Multi to X8 400 FSB and it starts to choke.

nugzo
08-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Heck I cannot even get decent FSB by dropping the Multi to X8 400 FSB and it starts to choke.

Whats your CPU's max so far? Could it be the chip and not the board? my first 2 g0's (L723,L724) i couldnt get stable at 3200mhz no matter what multi and fsb. I blamed my board until my 3rd g0 (L724) came in and went straight to 3700mhz.

Brother Esau
08-18-2007, 06:57 PM
There is some weird stuff going on with this board with the USB ports not working all 4 of them that is then a day later they work plus some other things which is to long winded for me to get into so I am inclined to believe its the board! Besides 2 Q6600 chips one B3 1 G0 and both have the same flake out point at X9 and X8 Multi...I don't think so, its the board

zodduska
08-18-2007, 07:11 PM
did the vdroop mod with some random hello kitty pencil, worked great. thanks!

GRAFiZ
08-18-2007, 07:15 PM
did the vdroop mod with some random hello kitty pencil, worked great. thanks!

I have it on high authority that if a "Hello Kitty" pencil is used, you can expect an overclock of nearly 10% greater then that of a standard pencil.

:D

nugzo
08-18-2007, 07:40 PM
I have it on high authority that if a "Hello Kitty" pencil is used, you can expect an overclock of nearly 10% greater then that of a standard pencil.

:D

10% ? I always thought it was a minimum 50% with the "Hello Kitty" pencil mod. :yepp:

zodduska
08-18-2007, 09:47 PM
10% ? I always thought it was a minimum 50% with the "Hello Kitty" pencil mod. :yepp:

yes, I can confirm this. ;)

GAR
08-18-2007, 09:58 PM
did the vdroop mod with some random hello kitty pencil, worked great. thanks!

LMAO, that brought a smile to my face hahaha......anyway why didnt we know about this pencil mod alot earlier, man wish i knew this a long time ago, so simple and efficient. :up:

disruptfam
08-19-2007, 12:16 AM
Is this how you do it??? do i just shade a line (3 or 4 passes) over that area?

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6681/pencilmodas0.jpg

also can someone post a larger pic of the mobo and where it actually is cuz i can't find it


cheers

disruptfam
08-19-2007, 05:07 AM
anyone?

turtletrax
08-19-2007, 06:51 AM
anyone?

Yes you are correct. :)

The Nemesis
08-19-2007, 01:05 PM
Mod works on T1 board too by the way :)

I)ickie
08-19-2007, 01:51 PM
Anyone got measured resistance before and after the vdroop mod so i know what to aim for?
Thanks

disruptfam
08-19-2007, 07:43 PM
Yes you are correct.

thank you

icon57
08-20-2007, 06:58 AM
has anyone got better oc's by doing the pencil mod?
i am starting to lose faith in my 680i...
all i can get outta this is 400x8, which is barely stable
might have to move on to p35...

Brother Esau
08-20-2007, 07:08 AM
No love for you on the 680i either hey icon57? Its too bad because for what is supposed to be the premier Quad Core O.C board I was not impressed with mine!

I am getting my Abit IP35 Pro today I will let you know what I think of it, I mean for under $200.00 its a steal from what I can see and the amount of people that have great results with it in 98% that are happy at least.

D.F.I P35 is the way to go but you really cannot get it right now its in very high demand and no one is selling it ATM:(

GAR
08-20-2007, 08:15 AM
i love my 680i, the only issue i have isthe multi reverts to 6x sometimes, but a restart fixes it, its quiet annoying tho.

JAG87
08-20-2007, 09:15 AM
sweet, im going to try the vdroop mod tonight. i have one of the worst boards for vdroop, bios > -0.05 in windows > -0.05 under load = a whole 0.1 off. I have to run 1.5v in bios to get 1.4v under load. this might give me stability above 3.6 ghz finally!

:woot:


EDIT

has anyone measured their resistance with a multimeter? I see that it should be 100K after the pencil mod. Is the resistance higher or lower before the pencil mod?

icon57
08-20-2007, 09:45 AM
No love for you on the 680i either hey icon57? Its too bad because for what is supposed to be the premier Quad Core O.C board I was not impressed with mine!

I am getting my Abit IP35 Pro today I will let you know what I think of it, I mean for under $200.00 its a steal from what I can see and the amount of people that have great results with it in 98% that are happy at least.

D.F.I P35 is the way to go but you really cannot get it right now its in very high demand and no one is selling it ATM:(

yeah, its either my cpu, or the limits of the mobo...at this point, i am willing to bet its the mobo....
i am interested to see what your take is on the abit, i am watching that thread as well. i have not used abit since the max3 days of skt 478 :p:
i have really toyed with the idea of the gigabyte DS3, there is an open box on the egg for 121.00.
i think the p35 will be very short lived as we head into Q4, so i dont want to invest too much in it.

Brother Esau
08-20-2007, 10:37 AM
I have tried my Q6600 B3 & G0 on this board and it craps out at exactly the same points @ X9 & X8 Multi on both B3 & G0 chips so no doubt in my mind its the board for sure! Although I must admit its a hell of a great overclocker for Dual Core

Brother Esau
08-20-2007, 10:39 AM
I will have the IP35 Pro in a couple of hours and I have never owned a abit before well not a overclocking board at least.:D

treatmentx
08-20-2007, 10:44 AM
About to do this mod, but can someone tell me how I can verify what model I have ? It says I need a 00 revision or whatever, I have the T1/A1 (same board), but I don't know anything about which revision. In CPU-Z, it says my board is A2 revision.

treatmentx
08-20-2007, 10:46 AM
yeah, its either my cpu, or the limits of the mobo...at this point, i am willing to bet its the mobo....
i am interested to see what your take is on the abit, i am watching that thread as well. i have not used abit since the max3 days of skt 478 :p:
i have really toyed with the idea of the gigabyte DS3, there is an open box on the egg for 121.00.
i think the p35 will be very short lived as we head into Q4, so i dont want to invest too much in it.

Did you try going straight to 3600mhz? There's some holes you have to jump over. Try 1.46vcore, 1.4v for FSB, then just go straight to 1600mh FSB (or 400FSB QDR) with a 9x multi. (watching temps of course)

Ic3man
08-20-2007, 10:51 AM
About to do this mod, but can someone tell me how I can verify what model I have ? It says I need a 00 revision or whatever, I have the T1/A1 (same board), but I don't know anything about which revision. In CPU-Z, it says my board is A2 revision.

Thats the latest revision. There are only two boards - AR/TR and A1/T1. The reference to '00' I think is D00. The earlier boards were C00 in reference to the first 3 letters on the serial next to the ram slots.

skndvr
08-20-2007, 01:00 PM
Gar and others, Do you know what causes the board (if it is teh Board) to change the muilti on its own. I have had the same thing happen, it would go from 6x when i checked it in windows, then another time while in bios it was at 8x. it was very confusing since i knwo i did nto change it, is there sum kind of auto multiplier? that maybe changes it depending on heat or how it feels, haha.

RottenMutt
08-20-2007, 01:43 PM
intel speed step

GAR
08-20-2007, 03:10 PM
Gar and others, Do you know what causes the board (if it is teh Board) to change the muilti on its own. I have had the same thing happen, it would go from 6x when i checked it in windows, then another time while in bios it was at 8x. it was very confusing since i knwo i did nto change it, is there sum kind of auto multiplier? that maybe changes it depending on heat or how it feels, haha.

Naw dude, even with speedstep and rest of that junk disabled, it changes the multi sometimes and a restart is needed........hope a new bios will fix this.

icon57
08-20-2007, 03:48 PM
Did you try going straight to 3600mhz? There's some holes you have to jump over. Try 1.46vcore, 1.4v for FSB, then just go straight to 1600mh FSB (or 400FSB QDR) with a 9x multi. (watching temps of course)

lol, yes, i know all about the holes in the fsb...i can do 3.6 no prob, but not stable, and i have to use high volts, just to get me there...seems no matter what i tweak, i just cant get 100% stable on this mobo.

doghouse
08-20-2007, 03:54 PM
The V Mod worked perfectly on EVGA A1 680i. Droop has disappeared, just brushed over the points a few times, powered on, checked droop using speedfan. Brushed across a few more times - hey presto droop gone.

To get 400+ FSB sable I use the following volts
FSB 1.4
SPP 1.55
SPP-MCP 1.55
MCP 1.6

Using these settings I get my G0 Q6600 stable @3.8ghz using only 1.475v :D
Benchmarks here we come.

nugzo
08-20-2007, 05:13 PM
Gar and others, Do you know what causes the board (if it is teh Board) to change the muilti on its own. I have had the same thing happen, it would go from 6x when i checked it in windows, then another time while in bios it was at 8x. it was very confusing since i knwo i did nto change it, is there sum kind of auto multiplier? that maybe changes it depending on heat or how it feels, haha.

I'm pretty sure it's a P30 bios issue. It never did that to me on any other bios.

zodduska
08-20-2007, 08:05 PM
thanks for the voltages! finally got mine 400+ fsb stable after two weeks of tweaking. :clap:


The V Mod worked perfectly on EVGA A1 680i. Droop has disappeared, just brushed over the points a few times, powered on, checked droop using speedfan. Brushed across a few more times - hey presto droop gone.

To get 400+ FSB sable I use the following volts
FSB 1.4
SPP 1.55
SPP-MCP 1.55
MCP 1.6

Using these settings I get my G0 Q6600 stable @3.8ghz using only 1.475v :D
Benchmarks here we come.

doghouse
08-20-2007, 09:17 PM
thanks for the voltages! finally got mine 400+ fsb stable after two weeks of tweaking. :clap:

glad to help :yepp: - Enjoy :up:

GAR
08-20-2007, 10:19 PM
Ok guys, quick advice, go back to P28 bios......the multi dropping issue is gone.....3d is faster in CSS, and 3dmark......system seems to be smoother, wayyy smoother, man P30 bios stinks....P28 stable at 3.5ghz.

treatmentx
08-20-2007, 11:27 PM
That's odd. I don't have that multi-dropping issue unless I turn on C1E/Speedstep, which I do anyways... if you turn off both C1E/Speedstep, it goes away... at least for me. *shrug*... but I leave my computer on all the time to upload/download crap, so powersavings is a welcome.

and I could get 3.8 on the P30.... though I'm waiting on the vdroop mod clarification than that should be help in achieving 4.0ghz

doghouse
08-21-2007, 03:48 AM
Ok guys here is a teaser of my CPU - if I just upgraded my CPU block from Storm to a DTek Fusion. Bios setting are as per the screenshot.

G0-Q66000/EVGA A1 - P30/L724A754/Packed 08/09/2007/

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4708/g038ghzoy1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-08-21

treatmentx
08-21-2007, 12:45 PM
Ok, i'm about to do the vdroop mod. ANY #2 pencil is cool right? =| I heard it's suppose to be #2 HB, or is it the same thing? And can someone clarify, it looks like i'm drawing OVER the resistor??

GAR
08-21-2007, 12:59 PM
Ok, i'm about to do the vdroop mod. ANY #2 pencil is cool right? =| I heard it's suppose to be #2 HB, or is it the same thing? And can someone clarify, it looks like i'm drawing OVER the resistor??

Just draw over the resistors and a #2 pencil works just fine :yepp:

AcuraDC5
08-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Anyone have the same system as me:

Q6600 G0 with Tuniq Tower 120
eVGA 680i A1
2GB Crucial Ballistix PC8500
PC Power and Cooling Quad 750 SLI
Thermaltake Armor

If so, how are your overclocks?

treatmentx
08-21-2007, 03:31 PM
I think most people have a EVGA 680i and a g0 Q6600 in this thread. =)

My clocks and temps are awesome... but i'll post better results after I do this vdroop mod (tonite)... >=) but prior to mod, I could do 3.8ghz, but at 1.500, which does a crazy vdroop to 1.41v and crashes. I can always do 1.6, i have watercooling, but I wanna do this mod and go from there..

icon57
08-21-2007, 04:22 PM
I think most people have a EVGA 680i and a g0 Q6600 in this thread. =)

My clocks and temps are awesome... but i'll post better results after I do this vdroop mod (tonite)... >=) but prior to mod, I could do 3.8ghz, but at 1.500, which does a crazy vdroop to 1.41v and crashes. I can always do 1.6, i have watercooling, but I wanna do this mod and go from there..

i would be very happy if i were doing 3.8 on 1.5 volts...

GAR
08-21-2007, 05:33 PM
ive got 3.5ghz with 1.47 volts out of my B3 and im quit happy for the time being, intill my next upgrade in the fall, when 45nm quads come out.

treatmentx
08-21-2007, 05:38 PM
i would be very happy if i were doing 3.8 on 1.5 volts...

Why can't you? Temps? You have the same chip as me? There's an FSB hole, jump over it? I had problems from 3.28ghz to 3.5ghz, but anything after that was smooth as silk.

JAG87
08-21-2007, 05:41 PM
well I couldn't be happier with 3.6 Ghz with 1.38v idle, 1.40v load. and im not done testing yet, I might be able to get it even lower.

i nominate this mod of the year.

Darkatom
08-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Are there any negative side effects from doing this pencil mod ?

GAR
08-21-2007, 08:39 PM
Are there any negative side effects from doing this pencil mod ?

Nope

GAR
08-21-2007, 08:40 PM
well I couldn't be happier with 3.6 Ghz with 1.38v idle, 1.40v load. and im not done testing yet, I might be able to get it even lower.

i nominate this mod of the year.

I'm with u man, so easy and so usefull :up: :clap:

treatmentx
08-21-2007, 10:26 PM
omg... I just did the mod. It is FRIGGING AWESOME..

Anyway to give mad props to the author? good god it's awesome.

Here are some screen caps, not really pushing the board. Just wanted to see the mod in action...

Before the mod, idle cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.33v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idlebefore.jpg

Before the mod, load cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.29v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadbefore.jpg

After the mod, idle cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.34v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idleafter.jpg

After the mod, load cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.36v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadafter.jpg

icon57
08-22-2007, 04:52 AM
Why can't you? Temps? You have the same chip as me? There's an FSB hole, jump over it? I had problems from 3.28ghz to 3.5ghz, but anything after that was smooth as silk.


hmmm...good question...wish i knew the answer....i can get 3.6, and have booted up at 3.8.....my problem is stability. i am wc'ed on cpu and nb, so temps are ok~decent.

i really need to up the volts to (cpu) 1.5 or above (in bios), to get things semi-stable, but i fail p95 or lock up, or i core craps out...so for now, i am at 3.2.

i will try the pencil mod, and see if this help on the oc...to those that did the pencil mod, did it help you oc? or get you a higher/stable oc? :shrug:

CikaNovo
08-22-2007, 05:05 AM
omg... I just did the mod. It is FRIGGING AWESOME..

Anyway to give mad props to the author? good god it's awesome.

Here are some screen caps, not really pushing the board. Just wanted to see the mod in action...

Before the mod, idle cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.33v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idlebefore.jpg

Before the mod, load cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.29v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loadbefore.jpg

After the mod, idle cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.34v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idleafter.jpg

After the mod, load cpu (note the BIOS set vcore is 1.3625v, actual is 1.36v)
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idleafter.jpg

Treatmentx, you're missing loadafter screencap,you have 2 idleafters.I'm just curious about the voltage value.

treatmentx
08-22-2007, 05:56 AM
Sorry about that, corrected in original post :up:

Question
How/what do you guys use to monitor northbridge temps?

Spontaneous reboots, is probably from overheating the NB, anything else I'm missing? can overheated memory do the same? I know overheating CPU will just give you errors on Ortho/Prime before it actually crashes.

Also, can people share their BIOS settings.

Ic3man
08-22-2007, 09:43 AM
Bought a G0 chip today and it appears that my motherboard is limiting me to 375 fsb. Tried all multis and the suggested voltages here but the board will not post over 1500 QDP - posts error code 19 or 1A but usually 19. The cpu is stable as a rock at 375mhz but at 376 it wont even post :mad:

Tried jumping the FSB wall but it appears there aint one as its the same no matter what fsb I input greater than 1500.

Chipset is 570 btw - any ideas?

Looks like its gonna be a long wait until x38:shakes:

icon57
08-22-2007, 09:49 AM
[QUOTE=Ic3man;2385809]Bought a G0 chip today and it appears that my motherboard is limiting me to 375 fsb. Tried all multis and the suggested voltages here but the board will not post over 1500 QDP - posts error code 19 or 1A but usually 19. The cpu is stable as a rock at 375mhz but at 376 it wont even post :mad:

Tried jumping the FSB wall but it appears there aint one as its the same no matter what fsb I input greater than 1500.

Chipset is 570 btw - any ideas?



do you have the A1 revision?

Ic3man
08-22-2007, 10:39 AM
Yup - thought that the new revision had sorted clocking quads:confused:

Had similar issues with my old QX but that could be sorted by using the unlocked upward multi - sadly with this quad I'm stuck at a max x9.

treatmentx
08-22-2007, 11:43 AM
Yup - thought that the new revision had sorted clocking quads:confused:

Had similar issues with my old QX but that could be sorted by using the unlocked upward multi - sadly with this quad I'm stuck at a max x9.

There's a hole you're stuck at, I was at that hole for a while too. It seems weird, but you gotta jump above 1550, try 1560 with appropriate voltages.

This has to do with some kind of fsb strapping, was discussed in a thread... long story short, there's some weird holes around 350-375. Just skip over it!

zodduska
08-22-2007, 05:12 PM
Bought a G0 chip today and it appears that my motherboard is limiting me to 375 fsb. Tried all multis and the suggested voltages here but the board will not post over 1500 QDP - posts error code 19 or 1A but usually 19. The cpu is stable as a rock at 375mhz but at 376 it wont even post :mad:

Tried jumping the FSB wall but it appears there aint one as its the same no matter what fsb I input greater than 1500.

Chipset is 570 btw - any ideas?

Looks like its gonna be a long wait until x38:shakes:

Im guessing you probably tried, but when I hit that hole I found that 400x8(9) worked fine. also try P30 bios if you havent yet.
there is a strange bug that was preventing me from posting with a 7 or 6 multi on 400+ fsb unless I had my vcore set inappropriately high..

I like the voltage mod a lot, combined with higher motherboard voltages it's allowed me to run stable 425x8 3400mhz 1.45v for a few days now. :)

treatmentx
08-22-2007, 05:23 PM
Im guessing you probably tried, but when I hit that hole I found that 400x8(9) worked fine. also try P30 bios if you havent yet.
there is a strange bug that was preventing me from posting with a 7 or 6 multi on 400+ fsb unless I had my vcore set inappropriately high..

I like the voltage mod a lot, combined with higher motherboard voltages it's allowed me to run stable 425x8 3400mhz 1.45v for a few days now. :)

Can you elaborate on the voltage mod, what does it do exactly? I did the vdroop mod, love it.

nugzo
08-22-2007, 07:14 PM
Bought a G0 chip today and it appears that my motherboard is limiting me to 375 fsb. Tried all multis and the suggested voltages here but the board will not post over 1500 QDP - posts error code 19 or 1A but usually 19. The cpu is stable as a rock at 375mhz but at 376 it wont even post :mad:

Tried jumping the FSB wall but it appears there aint one as its the same no matter what fsb I input greater than 1500.

Chipset is 570 btw - any ideas?

Looks like its gonna be a long wait until x38:shakes:


I've built 8 EVGA/Quad systems since G0 came out. All the boards performed pretty much the same as far as holes (or lack of holes) You just have a bad board or not so good quad. RMA the board if you can. EVGA has the best RMA service around. These boards work good with the G0's. Don't give up yet.

zodduska
08-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Can you elaborate on the voltage mod, what does it do exactly? I did the vdroop mod, love it.

woops, I meant the vdroop mod.

GAR
08-22-2007, 09:35 PM
yup, ive had many boards, they all performed the same, or very close to one another, you most likely have a really bad board, or a bad cpu, try it on another board or RMA your board....good luck

Brother Esau
08-22-2007, 10:30 PM
Yup - thought that the new revision had sorted clocking quads:confused:

Had similar issues with my old QX but that could be sorted by using the unlocked upward multi - sadly with this quad I'm stuck at a max x9.


Sounds like you got a board like the one I have!

Ic3man
08-22-2007, 10:31 PM
Tried :

FSB 376 - error 19
FSB 400 - error 19
FSB 425 - error 19
FSB 450 - error 19

with 7,8 & 9 multis (HT & CPU) and all manner of votage variations and still no joy.

I am currently on P30 but have also tried P28 (gives a 66mhzx9 at stock lol).

I'm pretty sure it aint the chip as its 100% stable @ 375x9 but just refuses to boot anything above that even if I drop the multi.

How can I RMA a board that isn't faulty - works fine @ stock speeds and a slight overclock and clocked my c2d's upto 4ghz? IT just dosn't want to play with this quad nor my old QX (had the same FSB wall with that too). Will they accept RMA due to poor Quad overclocking?

GAR
08-22-2007, 10:35 PM
ok, one thing to make sure is the fsb vtt voltage, make sure it stays at 1.5, anything lower causes instability.

treatmentx
08-22-2007, 11:38 PM
Tried :

FSB 376 - error 19
FSB 400 - error 19
FSB 425 - error 19
FSB 450 - error 19

with 7,8 & 9 multis (HT & CPU) and all manner of votage variations and still no joy.

I am currently on P30 but have also tried P28 (gives a 66mhzx9 at stock lol).

I'm pretty sure it aint the chip as its 100% stable @ 375x9 but just refuses to boot anything above that even if I drop the multi.

How can I RMA a board that isn't faulty - works fine @ stock speeds and a slight overclock and clocked my c2d's upto 4ghz? IT just dosn't want to play with this quad nor my old QX (had the same FSB wall with that too). Will they accept RMA due to poor Quad overclocking?

What are your settings?

A simple overclock, still toying with everything. Check out the temps at idle in 25C ambient
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2299/82220070001ui3.th.jpg (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=82220070001ui3.jpg)

nugzo
08-23-2007, 12:18 AM
Will they accept RMA due to poor Quad overclocking?
Their RMA is so good that they'll probably replace it for you.
Didn't you say you were getting a lot of random blue screens?? (wink wink)

Ic3man
08-23-2007, 12:54 AM
Sent an email to EVGA so heres hoping they will have mercy and replace the mobo. I also mentioned the BSOD I was having:)

icon57
08-23-2007, 02:31 AM
they are very good at rma, besides, this mobo has a lifetime warranty.

Ic3man
08-23-2007, 05:41 AM
No reply as yet but I have also made a post on the EVGA forums highlighting this possible solution/answer. I have tried this quad in a 590 chipset and it dosn't have the FSB problem the 570 chipset does so it appears there maybe a link between the chipset revisions - anyone else managing decent FSB with the 570 chipset?

serker
08-23-2007, 09:54 AM
No reply as yet but I have also made a post on the EVGA forums highlighting this possible solution/answer. I have tried this quad in a 590 chipset and it dosn't have the FSB problem the 570 chipset does so it appears there maybe a link between the chipset revisions - anyone else managing decent FSB with the 570 chipset?

my Q6600 L726A, dont let me play at any fsb beyond the stock, but I can clock about 3.6 or more with 2 cores disabled. on 680i A1 P30 :mad:

icon57
08-23-2007, 10:04 AM
No reply as yet but I have also made a post on the EVGA forums highlighting this possible solution/answer. I have tried this quad in a 590 chipset and it dosn't have the FSB problem the 570 chipset does so it appears there maybe a link between the chipset revisions - anyone else managing decent FSB with the 570 chipset?


hmmm... i had an rma number almost instantly!
when i pulled of the north and south bridge coolers to re-apply TIM, i forgot to look at the nb and see what chip it was...interesting...

do all the new A1 revisions use the 570?, i know my original board had the 590.

serker
08-23-2007, 10:36 AM
hmmm... i had an rma number almost instantly!
when i pulled of the north and south bridge coolers to re-apply TIM, i forgot to look at the nb and see what chip it was...interesting...

do all the new A1 revisions use the 570?, i know my original board had the 590.

My A1 is 590

Ic3man
08-23-2007, 02:20 PM
Some have the 570 some have the 590 - hence why some may be having problems and others not. Why a SB should affect the FSB I have no idea but I can't see any other reason as on dualcore I could exceed 500fsb easily and it was stable (500x8) - no such luck with this quad tho - its either stable or wont boot, no inbetween. Usually prime starts to get flaky once you are hitting the cpu limit but for it to go from stable to no boot with a 1mhz increase is bizarre.

nugzo
08-23-2007, 03:17 PM
My last 6 boards have been 570 (3 rma and 3 from the egg). Able to do 460+ fsb on quad G0's and 500 fsb on c2d. I've been wanting a 590 to play around with since i'm now so familiar with the 570. I think i remember my last 590 doin very well as far as fsb goes. Like i mentioned earlier though, 2 out of the 4 go's i had i couldn't even get stable at 3200 mhz, so don't always assume its the board, not all go's clock well.

turtletrax
08-23-2007, 03:34 PM
590 SB here and I cant boot past 447 FSB on my board. No way, no how...

NoSoMo
08-25-2007, 08:34 AM
Here's what a G0 can do with an Ultima 90 and a new EVGA A1 680i, and I'm just getting started :D
I'm still working on pulling vcore out, my vdroop is .01v.

Please people, take notice of my voltages and stop trying to burn up your boards! Only thing I changed was Vcore and Mem. All other are on auto, which work all the way up to 1780FSB, so if you're under that, don't bother upping them.

http://www.goldammo.com/a/multi8.jpg

uclajd
08-26-2007, 01:45 AM
Gawd I hate these boards. Upgrading my friend's A1 to a Q6600 was the worst PC experience of my life.

Weird, the board seems as stable and as hot at 400x8 as it does 400x9. I wonder if it has a NB cooling issue?

NoSoMo
08-26-2007, 03:53 AM
Gawd I hate these boards. Upgrading my friend's A1 to a Q6600 was the worst PC experience of my life.

Weird, the board seems as stable and as hot at 400x8 as it does 400x9. I wonder if it has a NB cooling issue?


I've gone through 5 different motherboards and 3 processors all on the same install of the OS. I've yet to have a single issue. Not sure why you've had such a problem.
:shrug:

David_L6
08-26-2007, 05:45 AM
Gawd I hate these boards.


Let me second that sentiment!

treatmentx
08-26-2007, 08:47 AM
*shrug* i love these boards. I hate the p5n32-E SLI, but I sold it and went for the EVGA 680i. 4.0ghz benchable on my q6600, 3.8ghz daily use. shrug.

icon57
08-26-2007, 10:39 AM
*shrug* i love these boards. I hate the p5n32-E SLI, but I sold it and went for the EVGA 680i. 4.0ghz benchable on my q6600, 3.8ghz daily use. shrug.

yeah people, dont hate the playah, hate the game :rofl:

serker
08-26-2007, 02:55 PM
*shrug* i love these boards. I hate the p5n32-E SLI, but I sold it and went for the EVGA 680i. 4.0ghz benchable on my q6600, 3.8ghz daily use. shrug.

Can you post your Batch code and voltages setting?:up:

BR.

zodduska
08-26-2007, 04:54 PM
I'm having freezing problems which I cant seem to nail down, theyve been plaguing since I built this system a month ago..

watching xvid (7-29-07 ffdshow) while running prime95 was my stability test, prime can run forever, but for some reason Xvid decoding causes my system to freeze.. first the video, then the audio a second later, at seemingly random intervals (5-60min).. Its a really strange crash since there is no bsod or reboot, HDD light is lit which makes me suspect sata drivers are the cause.

Ive tried ultra loose memory timings, different voltages for everything (low-high) different fsb 380-450 with 7,8,9x from 3.2-3.7ghz.. they all have the same result.

never locked up in a game once... but xvid kills it.

Ultimately only stable below 3ghz, even though this cpu can prime fine up to 3.6 :/

can anyone help? :confused:

I)ickie
08-26-2007, 05:13 PM
I'm having freezing problems which I cant seem to nail down, theyve been plaguing since I built this system a month ago..

watching xvid (7-29-07 ffdshow) while running prime95 was my stability test, prime can run forever, but for some reason Xvid decoding causes my system to freeze.. first the video, then the audio a second later, at seemingly random intervals (5-60min).. Its a really strange crash since there is no bsod or reboot, HDD light is lit which makes me suspect sata drivers are the cause.

Ive tried ultra loose memory timings, different voltages for everything (low-high) different fsb 380-450 with 7,8,9x from 3.2-3.7ghz.. they all have the same result.

never locked up in a game once... but xvid kills it.

Ultimately only stable below 3ghz, even though this cpu can prime fine up to 3.6 :/

can anyone help? :confused:

I can't help but I can say that I was having similar issues using my P5n-e SLI which is Nvidia 650i based.
Who knows

BigRigDriver
08-26-2007, 05:42 PM
My 680i 3 first memroy slots are kabot so I'm on 1 gig in 4 slot & just started Orthos.:shocked:

Darkatom
08-27-2007, 03:11 PM
Is that with the pencil mod for the vDroop ?

zodduska
08-27-2007, 04:44 PM
I can't help but I can say that I was having similar issues using my P5n-e SLI which is Nvidia 650i based.
Who knows

I may have figured out a workaround.. :)

installed ffdshow_beta1_20061211_clsid, when it asks what codecs to decode I unchecked Divx, Xvid and mp3.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=213872&release_id=469134

then installed http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/index.php for the Divx and Xvid decoding.

been testing stable over 4 hours, fingers crossed ;)

I)ickie
08-27-2007, 04:47 PM
I may have figured out a workaround.. :)

installed ffdshow_beta1_20061211_clsid, when it asks what codecs to decode I unchecked Divx, Xvid and mp3.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=213872&release_id=469134

then installed http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/download/index.php for the Divx and Xvid decoding.

been testing stable over 4 hours, fingers crossed ;)

Yeah i was using klite mega codec pack. De-comisioned my p5n-e SLI now anyway but may be useful for my 680i.
Good to hear you got your issues sorted out.