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IFMU
07-30-2007, 09:20 PM
As the title states, I am curious if anyone has ever used a maze 4 water block on a socket 939 system.
I'm getting my hands on a few parts and have everything for water cooling. The only limitation, is the block. Maze4.
Has anyone ever modded the hold down attachment for the maze4 for a 939 socket cpu?
How was their luck with it?

I have pretty much everything ready, just awaiting a cpu from mike470 to get here so I can start setting up and testing it out.
The way everything looks, I should be ok, just a bit curious as to how well the maze4 can handle a 939 socket cpu.
I am unsure of the exacts on the cpu at the moment, awaiting its arrival.
As for the rest of the parts, I have a dual 120 rad from swiftech, as well as one of their pumps. Not sure of the exact brand of it at the moment.

Comments?

Waterlogged
07-30-2007, 11:00 PM
You can get new tops direct from DD. You can go with either Lucite for ~$10 or brass for ~$15.

_G_
07-30-2007, 11:58 PM
the maze4 has a step in it so contact area would be smaller than the IHS on a 939 cpu. as for a holdown maybe a simple crossbar across the top (held down with 6/32 threaded studs) would work.

whoodiestyle
07-31-2007, 01:45 AM
i was always thought it would be a great block for cpu with no ihs

IFMU
07-31-2007, 08:14 AM
You can get new tops direct from DD. You can go with either Lucite for ~$10 or brass for ~$15.
While decent to know that would be an option, it is not for me.
That would require a spending of fundage that I do not have. :shrug:
But good to know that it should be able to handle the cpu itself though.

the maze4 has a step in it so contact area would be smaller than the IHS on a 939 cpu. as for a holdown maybe a simple crossbar across the top (held down with 6/32 threaded studs) would work.
As for the actual hold down, Ive already got one worked up. It is pretty much complete, just need the cpu in hand to test and check where/if I need pressure adjusted to make better contact. No worries there.

Not sure why youre saying the contact area will be smaller, the entire maze 4 base is huge, should have tons of enough space to cover the full 939 cpu.
Now I could see a possible problem of it being off center if not adjusted right and centered well enough over the actual cpu.
From what I can tell without have a cpu here yet, I do believe I can get it centered well enough though.

Ill take a couple shots and post up so you can see it.

Sparky
07-31-2007, 08:38 AM
the maze4 has a step in it so contact area would be smaller than the IHS on a 939 cpu. as for a holdown maybe a simple crossbar across the top (held down with 6/32 threaded studs) would work.

No matter, the core is the hot spot in the center of the IHS anyway.

IFMU
07-31-2007, 08:42 AM
Ive taken a few shots, sorry for the bad quality, the camera I have doesnt have the zoom in enough to really do it without causing blurring.

http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/939maze4.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=939maze4.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/939socket1.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=939socket1.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazeon939sideshot.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazeon939sideshot.JPG)

http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazeonsideshot2.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazeonsideshot2.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazeplacement.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazeplacement.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazewadapter.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazewadapter.JPG)

Now to explain the shots a bit.
Shot 1, shows the maze angled next to the socket. It should cover it pretty much square on.
Shot 2, the socket itself.
Shot 3, angle shot from the side. As you can see, the block sits cockeyed, but that is due to no cpu to square it off.
Shot 4, another angle view, still shows it should cover the cpu entirely.
Shot 5, Top view, full coverage, centered over the socket.
Shot 6, Top again, with the bracket to push the block onto the cpu IHS/Die.

About the only thing that I can see that should be a problem is the possible placement of the dies under the IHS. If they are off center enough, then the 'maze' pattern within the block, might not make best contact/coverage.
Other than that, I can't forsee any problems from this layout.

One thing beyond what I have it at right now, is I may need to add in a few spacers onto the boltons for the block to allow the springs to actually make a decent contact.

_G_
07-31-2007, 09:38 AM
whops, never mind what I said about the step, I was thinking maze4 gpu.
whats the crossbar made from? will it bend under mounting pressure?

generics_user
07-31-2007, 09:58 AM
Ive taken a few shots, sorry for the bad quality, the camera I have doesnt have the zoom in enough to really do it without causing blurring.

http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/939maze4.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=939maze4.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/939socket1.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=939socket1.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazeon939sideshot.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazeon939sideshot.JPG)

http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazeonsideshot2.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazeonsideshot2.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazeplacement.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazeplacement.JPG) http://xs217.xs.to/xs217/07312/mazewadapter.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs217&d=07312&f=mazewadapter.JPG)

Now to explain the shots a bit.
Shot 1, shows the maze angled next to the socket. It should cover it pretty much square on.
Shot 2, the socket itself.
Shot 3, angle shot from the side. As you can see, the block sits :banana::banana::banana::banana:eyed, but that is due to no cpu to square it off.
Shot 4, another angle view, still shows it should cover the cpu entirely.
Shot 5, Top view, full coverage, centered over the socket.
Shot 6, Top again, with the bracket to push the block onto the cpu IHS/Die.

About the only thing that I can see that should be a problem is the possible placement of the dies under the IHS. If they are off center enough, then the 'maze' pattern within the block, might not make best contact/coverage.
Other than that, I can't forsee any problems from this layout.

One thing beyond what I have it at right now, is I may need to add in a few spacers onto the boltons for the block to allow the springs to actually make a decent contact.

this top got some sick cracks;)

IFMU
07-31-2007, 12:11 PM
whops, never mind what I said about the step, I was thinking maze4 gpu.
whats the crossbar made from? will it bend under mounting pressure?
The crossbar there is actually made from a PCI case slot cover. It's one that has a form to it, not just a straight bar. Should be plenty strong to hold it down. I will be testing it for a few days before actual usage to make sure it can handle it. I am pretty sure it should work good though.

this top got some sick cracks;)
Cracks? Not sure I follow? Do you mean cracks in the actual plexi top?
There are none, it might be a bit scratched, but thats minimal at worst. Odds are what you see though are just caused by bad pics.