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idiotekniQues
07-28-2007, 09:05 AM
rig in my sig.

ambient temps are high in my basement in summer, hitting 80F with humidity regularly - which is killing my air cooling, even with a lapped ninja.

this Q6600 i just got has headroom. i was running at 3.6ghz with 1.42v or so and plowing through prime small fft's for an hour but i was at the temp threshold of 71.

i am running it at 3.3ghz with 1.36-1.375v and temps with small fft's are 65. with blend of course temps are way lower, probably more real world usage but still.

i have plenty of air circulation going, with an antec tri-cool on hi mounted on the ninja pushing out the rear and the rear exhaust also on hi.

from reading on here and other forums it seems some people think the swiftech h20-120 premium will not give any performance boost. is that true?

i read other people who seem to contradict this.

i want to set up a more advanced WC rig but with the p180 case and the amount of stuff i have in it (adding another hard drive in soon) it is not possible to get a real hardcore WC setup in here without some serious modding i dont want to do.

id rather wait a couple years when i do a full overhaul to buy a nice big tower case friendly to WC'ing and do it up right, with a block on my GC as well. in the meantime, i just want to cool the q6600 and get more of the speed i know it has in it, these G0's are sick.

so, considering my budget is basically the same as the swiftech kit i mentioned, will i just end up getting the same performance as my ninja? or will i help my load temps.

i did do a lot of reading, and i read contradictions on this so i am asking. and yes i know, people will say go custom but i really dont have the money right now. just got my other 2 sticks of ram and the q6600 and i am close to broke.

ziddey
07-28-2007, 09:13 AM
if you go with the 120, you'll probably get similar performance.

idiotekniQues
07-28-2007, 10:17 AM
what about this:

http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoba.html


and could i run the pump outside the case? not much room in my p180

MrToad
07-28-2007, 11:11 AM
This might suit you better:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151451

Don't know exactly when it will be available though.

And on the subject of fitting stuff on a P180...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143916

LinusTech
07-28-2007, 11:37 AM
You will get better performance out of a simple single 120mm water cooling setup than you will with an air cooler.

I've done some limited testing on a Magicool single 120mm radiator, D-TEK DB-1 pump, and Magicool CPU block that yielded better load results (by about 5C) on an overclocked E6400 (3.6GHz) which is still not putting out the kind of heat a quad does.

I can only imagine that the Swiftech H20 Premium setup (which is better in every way) would be even better.

idiotekniQues
07-28-2007, 12:18 PM
thanks for the info so far.

that new up-coming swiftech all-in-one looks really tempting.

SiGfever
07-28-2007, 03:58 PM
You would be better off with this. But don't forget the extra fans...

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4117/petraub1.jpg

Frank M
07-28-2007, 06:26 PM
And on the subject of fitting stuff on a P180...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143916

This is the mount I'd recommend, too.

As for water's comparison to air, you'd get slightly better temps with an almost
inaudible system (fans @ 5-7V); or you can get much better temps with similar
noise levels.

Chewbenator
07-28-2007, 07:48 PM
I would also recommend the Petra's kit. Even if you do get 5C better temps from a single radiator I doubt it would be worth the cost.

idiotekniQues
07-28-2007, 08:23 PM
this is more about being cool than reducing noise. i mean if i could do both within a certain price range sure, but more important is cooling.

my pc is not near my bed and when i move it will be in a separate room from my bedroom so noise is not much of an issue.

ill go with a dual 120mm fan radiator for sure i think. i guess ill wait for reviews of the new swiftech 220 when it comes out mid-august and see.

idiotekniQues
07-28-2007, 08:40 PM
so could i leave the pump outside?

really not much room in my case.

idiotekniQues
07-29-2007, 01:52 PM
so could i leave the pump outside?

really not much room in my case.


anyone?

MrToad
07-29-2007, 02:07 PM
so could i leave the pump outside?

really not much room in my case.

If you must...

But remember, you should have your res / t-line right before the pump, or you might run into trouble.

Also longer tube runs and increased amount on bends affect negatively the performance of the loop.

idiotekniQues
07-29-2007, 02:12 PM
yes if you don't mind extra wires, tubing hanging behind case

fine with me. thanks.

until i can get a bigger case, that works. dont move this case aroudn except when tweaking things out.

SNiiPE_DoGG
07-29-2007, 03:13 PM
you can fit the D5 in the p180 easily, outlet below the cpu and inlet pointing towards the front

Jedda
07-29-2007, 08:18 PM
P180 pics (http://members.iinet.net.au/~hazay/P180/pages/thumbnail/thumbnailpage8.html) might help you with a few ideas.
Omarko's box, not mine.

NaeKuh
07-30-2007, 12:19 AM
NEWLS Waterkeg gets my vote.