Worklog (56k = bad)

[MotF Bane]

So, I've finally started building. My digital camera just wandered home late yesterday night, so the pictures are partially into the project. Then again, I only missed one thing of any interest before the camera was available.

If there's anything wrong with the way I'm doing this worklog, please tell me, I'll fix it.

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My old DiabloTek Demon IV; a forty dollar case that came with a 450W PSU. That power supply claimed the life of my old Dell computer...

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Screw you Gigabyte. That's a 7600GS passive cooled edition; Gigabyte used non-standard mounting holes, meaning my MCW60 won't fit. Buying an X1950Pro later today to replace that.

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MCW60; I'm sure you've all seen that.

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Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev 3.3; I removed all the heatsinks already.
Crucial Ballistix 2x1GB DDR2 1066 and my Western Digital 80GB.
MCW30 chipset; again, sure you've seen those before.

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Zip ties to tether the radiator into my case; the MCW60 is sitting there to give you an idea of scale.

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Thermochill PA120.3 with D12SM-12's. Screwed them in using a total of twelve 1 1/4" screws, obviously, no shroud involved.

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A picture with the barbs. I washed the radiator out with just shy of boiling distilled water, two rinses. Water was almost completely clean on the first rinses, it didn't need much. The barbs are 3/8" brass fittings, with some Teflon tape so nothing leaks. Dad had them lying around; I just took them and cleaned them up to use on the radiator.

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We unpacked some boxes at work, and I took home the packing foam. Going to add two strips on either side so the radiator is nicely settled in there. They'll be secured with rolled-over duct tape.

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Back of the case. Two Yate 80's in the bottom, one D12SM-12 in the middle area, just secured the same way the original CM fan was. I have some fan grills to add to the 80's later. Those are mainly there to cool the pump which will sit right in front of them.

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Wiring, taped to the back of the mobo tray is a Logisys CCFL controller, and the fans from the rear of the case. You can see past it to a mess of other wires; that's from my power supply, it's non-modular. Those will be neatened up, as of now they're already moved up top and out the side.

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This is the only thing I should have gotten but didn't. That's a piece of foam from work again, sitting next to the power supply. It's a 650W Olympia from Silverstone; so the foam shouldn't get burnt or anything because it's next to the fan. The interesting part is that I took some thin one-side-sticky foam from an air conditioner, and placed it along the bottom pieces of the PSU cage. It made inserting the PSU difficult, and screwing it into the backplate was nearly impossible. However, it means there is now some thin foam there, so it should knock down on vibrations.

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D-Tek Fuzion; I'm sure you've seen that before too. 3/8" D-Tek barbs.

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A small assortment of goodies. Primochill Liquid Utopia UV blue, DD red fillport (when I bought that, I thought I was using red and 7/16"), some thumbscrews (turns out CM gave me enough), some brass fittings, a plastic T-line, and AS5 12-gram tube.

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Case window! w00t.

That's all for now; the loop is going together tonight.

[sick_g4m3r]

Nice! Cant wait!

[IanY]

Achtung achtung !

You know that that red DD Fillport is *AL* right ? Dum dum dum...

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=56&cat=34&page=1

Buy a delrin one, or don't use any Fillport. Defnitely get rid of that red Fillport... or the world will end and we are all going to die !!

[MotF Bane]

Achtung achtung !

You know that that red DD Fillport is *AL* right ? Dum dum dum...

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=56&cat=34&page=1

Buy a delrin one, or don't use any Fillport. Defnitely get rid of that red Fillport... or the world will end and we are all going to die !!

...

:censored: :censored: :am:

Hmm. It says that it's anodized, will that be enough, or is it really going to be a problem? I kinda need a fillport, don't have any other way to bleed it.

[IanY]

Can you spare the $12 for the Delrin version? Get teh store you bought it from to exchange for the Delrin version and pay for the shipping back to the store. No, anodizing isn't going to save you from imminent doom ! Really, I'm trying to save your butt from a lot, a lot of future hassle.

See the difference in the Delrin version, and it isn't just the color.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=244&cat=34&page=1

[MotF Bane]

Can you spare the $12 for the Delrin version? Get teh store you bought it from to exchange for the Delrin version and pay for the shipping back to the store. No, anodizing isn't going to save you from imminent doom ! Really, I'm trying to save your butt from a lot, a lot of future hassle.

See the difference in the Delrin version, and it isn't just the color.

http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=244&cat=34&page=1

Yeah, I believe you're helping. Just tired of delaying. I guess I'll find something to shove into the tube until Monday/Tuesday, and get the Delrin from Jab-Tech. Thank you.

[Waterlogged]

Is there a reason your not using the TC gasket between the rad and fans? It will help insure all the air the fans move, is coming through the rad, which will mean better temps.

Heh, I got burned by Gigabyte as well on my 7600GT. I decided to make my own full cover WC block for it (http://www.dangerden.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9086). It's still in the design phase.

[MotF Bane]

Is there a reason your not using the TC gasket between the rad and fans? It will help insure all the air the fans move, is coming through the rad, which will mean better temps.

Heh, I got burned by Gigabyte as well on my 7600GT. I decided to make my own full cover WC block for it (http://www.dangerden.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9086). It's still in the design phase.

Oh, that's a gasket? It looked like sticky foam, and was crumpled, so I just set it aside. Oops.

[IanY]

An observation... those two memory sticks on top of a Zip Lock bag isn't the smartest idea in the world. You understand static electricity?

[Waterlogged]

Oh, that's a gasket? It looked like sticky foam, and was crumpled, so I just set it aside. Oops.

:ROTF:

[MotF Bane]

An observation... those two memory sticks on top of a Zip Lock bag isn't the smartest idea in the world. You understand static electricity?

Yeah, I do. Not a lot of places to stash them, I lost all of my old anti-static bags. Not too worried though, it's New England, no static electricity around for months. *knocks on wood*

[ColonelCain]

Looking forward to your progress!

[MotF Bane]

Yay, an update. My friend had issues this evening, so he didn't make it. It ended up my father helped me, extra pair of hands and drilling/bolting mostly.

Have you heard of entropy?
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My table proves entropy is true.

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ASUS drive just above the controls. I'm adding a screw hole tomorrow so that I will have two screws for holding my hard drive. The hard drive basically has stopped me since about 10:30 (it's now 11:40).

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I believe cables multiply. They reproduce pretty fast too. Most of those are just jumping from the PSU and from the front bay controls.

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The motherboard has been mounted. My MCW60 will be mounted tomorrow, but it's just going to lay against the side of the video card until my X1950Pro arrives on Monday. The pump has been bolted down, with some foam underneath it to help with vibrations.

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A little closer. I'm using a Thermalright LGA 775 backplate, with the D-Tek included screws (no springs or such, just the screws). I have nuts with washers (plastic washers) against the motherboard on the CPU side; is that a problem? The chipset block is hard-mounted using Swiftech's kit that came in the box. For both blocks, they're using 3/8" fittings with O-rings, no teflon tape.

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A stock Cooler Master fan, attached by two long screws into some extra standoffs. It just barely clears the 24 pin wire connector; but it will provide plenty of air for the memory. Also, from that picture, you can just barely make out how the 12V CPU wire comes in, and the RPM wire from the pump goes to the CPU fan mount.

That's it for tonight. It should be running tomorrow.

[yankee]

Lookin good so far. I'll keep an eye on this one :banana:

[MotF Bane]

End of the project; these pictures are from all over today, starting with around noon, ending with midnight.

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The loop, having just used heated distilled water to soften the tubing.

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Random picture?

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Yes, I will be replacing both SATA and IDE cables soon.

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The radiator in its nice home. Padded below and on the sides with some heavy dark gray foam, I don't even need zipties or screws, the foam is so tight.

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Huge jump, I know. Filling kept me so worried that something was wrong I didn't think of getting the camera. I got a 30 mL syringe, and kept using that. This was also after my pump died... brand-new Laing DDC-2, it absolutely burnt itself up. I think it was defective in some way, it shouldn't have gotten that hot. So the tubing got pinned back, there was still enough air in the loop to pull out the pump and then slide in my second that I had bought spare. That spare was definitely one of my best decisions. It runs icy cool too; suspended in the air with a couple of 80's behind it. Do I send the first back to Laing as defective, or take it back to the guys I got it from (Microcenter in Cambridge)?

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Computer just powered up. Logisys CCFL UV lights in there; unfortunately, that Primochill additive doesn't glow at all, despite being supposedly UV reactive. :(

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For you sharp-eyed veterans, enjoy the bubbles!

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Got bubbles?

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Random picture.

Now, the finished product, sitting next to me while I type this...

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I'll grab a picture of the wiring on the back at some point. New fillport and new video card are coming in early this week.

[kevinbo03]

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I got that same Craftsman precision screwdriver; God I love that thing.

It's the best item I've gotten (So far) from the Orchard Supply Hardware bargain bin at the checkout. :cool:


Nice build! I'm working on getting my Mcr320 into the top of my stacker; With the same blocks and pump (+ A modded DDC top).

Can we get some pics of the radiator in the front? :D

[MotF Bane]

[IMG]

Can we get some pics of the radiator in the front? :D

:doh:

I already pushed the mesh back in!! Thanks for telling me before the camera left home though...

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Internal shot; camera was positioned over the memory slots.

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Another internal shot, this shows the barbs at the bottom of the case.

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The full length of the radiator.

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Bottom of radiator.

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Middle section.

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Top of radiator.

It's held in place by some foam packing material. No zip ties, nothing at all... just foam. It's that tight of a fit now.

Wiring...

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[justin_c]

why isnt the tubing full?

[MotF Bane]

The tubing is full now except for the fill line coming from the T. It's not quite a finished product, and I'm still trying to judge if it's completely bled, so I won't fill the water in all the way.

I have this insanely high-pitched whine; very quiet, but such a high pitch I can't stop noticing it. Could the pump be making that noise?

[NickS]

Very nice build there :). BTW, OP & IanY, the Aluminum of the fillport shouldn't affect anything at all unless water from the loop is making contact with it, and it won't. ;)

[septim]

great worklog...

[justin_c]

the whine could come from literally anything; check the psu, fans, and pump.