E4300 ,air cooling, Q644 stepping

[hersounds]

hi,i just wanna show you my OC,and know,what do you think about this,is good?,bad?...so,the air cooling is an scythe ninja plus rev.B,the board is an asus striker extreme,2 gb g,skill ram.
the first time my 4300 up to 3.9 ghz! but not stable,just for the pick and the system power off

NOT STABLE ( only for the pic)
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3499/hersoundsmaxgw3ve4.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hersoundsmaxgw3ve4.jpg)

ROCK SOLID

CPU-Z validaTion 3240 mhz

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=197844

CPU-Z validation 3330 mhz

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=199263

super pi + core temp + cpu z
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1109/superpicpuzcoretemphm8.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superpicpuzcoretemphm8.jpg)

Aquamark 3 ( eVGA geforce 8800 gts 320 superclocked edition default)

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9512/aquamark3zh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Everest 4 ( overclock section)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7601/everestcb5.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=everestcb5.jpg)

so,can be better my oc,if i got it an tuniq tower 120?...i don't like the ninja plus..please sorry for my english and is my pleasure post here,of course,i from argentina,buenos aires

[Retrolock]

thats an awesome o/c with the 3922mhz mate! whats the vcore and the temps on that one?

[hersounds]

1.6 vcore but the system come down,because the asus striker have a great vdroop,so the 1.6 vcore that i put in bios ,not real for the micro,i hope with better cooling the E4300 go more fast that 3.4 ghz,temps, i can't take it because the system just power off

[Retrolock]

scythe ninja is a decent cooler, but i guess if you got yourself a tuniq or a thermalright ultra 120 extreme you'd be able to bench that clock! man its cold there 10 deg! lol here in the philippines its hot as hell! still awesome o/c i am also aiming for that high of an o/c! thanks!

[Razor_Sniper]

Have you removed the IHS? I removed mine today, temps dropped by 12 degrees.

[MarlboroMan]

Have you removed the IHS? I removed mine today, temps dropped by 12 degrees.

was it soldered or was just thermal paste on it?

[Razor_Sniper]

was it soldered or was just thermal paste on it?

Thermal paste. All E4300 CPU's are thermal pasted :)

[Solarfall]

Thermal paste. All E4300 CPU's are thermal pasted :)

i wish e6600 were too :(

nice results hersounds keep tweaking bro

[strange|ife]

very nice

i picked up a 4300 tonite to play around with, before i put it in a fileserver.

[BNDMOD]

So nice scores!!!!
Please show as some pics of your hard :d it maight be a pleasure see it!!!
Did you run a SuperPi 1m?

[Ad1tya]

Damn. Thats nice. Really lucky with that chip.

I have a Q644A315 myself.

Sucker refuses to boot at anything about 3.5 Ghz. Havent tried over 1.54 real vCore though...

[Cornelious0_0]

Very nice results with that chip man, definitely gives me hope. I'm good for over 8 hours of Orthos Small FFT's @ 3.1GHz 1.325v so far and am runnin' it again at 3.2GHz still at stock 1.325v.

Awesome thing is that this is still with the stock cooler.

Wow...I had no idea that these things were all pasted to their IHS's. I had no trouble removing a couple IHS's back in the s939 days and if this is as easy it'll definitely come in handy when I get an Ultra 120 Extreme for this chip...the temps are gonna plummet.

Oh well, for now I figure that 3.1GHz+ on 1.325v with the stock cooler and 18C room temps isn't bad, but the system's cryin' out for more cooling power.

[strange|ife]

ugh garbage on this 4300 i picked up

i cant even get it past 2.8 ghz without it crashing with 1.45 vcore. setting to 1.52 in bios passed blend after 5 hours. but at high ass temps. 100c Tjunction isnt your friend!

vdroop isnt helping. i really need to mod this board..the droop is terrible..sigh

ohwell not a daily driver anyway at high clocks, in fact ill be running it at 1.8 in the server lol

still guess this is just a hit and miss thing lately with new batchs

[Razor_Sniper]

Very nice results with that chip man, definitely gives me hope. I'm good for over 8 hours of Orthos Small FFT's @ 3.1GHz 1.325v so far and am runnin' it again at 3.2GHz still at stock 1.325v.

Awesome thing is that this is still with the stock cooler.

Wow...I had no idea that these things were all pasted to their IHS's. I had no trouble removing a couple IHS's back in the s939 days and if this is as easy it'll definitely come in handy when I get an Ultra 120 Extreme for this chip...the temps are gonna plummet.

Oh well, for now I figure that 3.1GHz+ on 1.325v with the stock cooler and 18C room temps isn't bad, but the system's cryin' out for more cooling power.

I never removed an IHS before. I just got a stanley knife and cut al the sides. It just felt off :P Core had almost no contact with IHS.

[Retrolock]

I never removed an IHS before. I just got a stanley knife and cut al the sides. It just felt off :P Core had almost no contact with IHS.

do you have any pics of it with the IHS removed? I'd like to see where to cut lol im interested in removing mine myself. Do you need to apply thermal paste? thanks

[Razor_Sniper]

do you have any pics of it with the IHS removed? I'd like to see where to cut lol im interested in removing mine myself. Do you need to apply thermal paste? thanks

Sorry no pics. I can make pics from the IHS if you want, but taking the whole CPU out again is to much work ATM. (will do this weekend, need to resettle it). You need to apply thermal paste at the core offcourse.

Edit: Pics of someone else E4300 with removed IHS so not mine ;)

http://members.home.nl/cprins/DSC01594.JPG
http://members.home.nl/cprins/DSC01603.JPG

[Retrolock]

thanks dude! wow! its just thermal paste in the middle! that explains the 100$++ price lol.

[Glow9]

11:12? I dont really understand these but how does this differ from 1:1 exactly and are you able to run it at 1:1?
How much power you giving that chip now?

[BNDMOD]

Hey hersounds we are waiting your ask.... please..

[Cornelious0_0]

ugh garbage on this 4300 i picked up

i cant even get it past 2.8 ghz without it crashing with 1.45 vcore. setting to 1.52 in bios passed blend after 5 hours. but at high ass temps. 100c Tjunction isnt your friend!

vdroop isnt helping. i really need to mod this board..the droop is terrible..sigh

ohwell not a daily driver anyway at high clocks, in fact ill be running it at 1.8 in the server lol

still guess this is just a hit and miss thing lately with new batchs

Ouch...I can do 3.1GHz with 1.325v 9+ hours stable in Small FFT's and I only need 1.350v for 9+ hours of 3.2GHz on the stock cooler.

When I get a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme I'll double check the stepping on the chip, but as it looks I should be able to do 3.3GHz to 3.4GHz on the stock cooler and hopefully a 100% OC with the new HSF.

[laziepig]

Razor_Sniper any idea of how to remove IHS of E6300? Is it thermal pasted like the E4300?

[Razor_Sniper]

I think they are soldered, you never know until you try. However I wouldn't try if you don't know for sure.

[Cornelious0_0]

I'm almost 100% sure that the 6000 series C2D chips are all soldered to their IHS's.

Razor_Sniper, are you still using air cooling with the IHS removed on the E4300? How does it work out with the socket cover not holding the chip in place completely?

EDIT: Sorry, just realised it's not your chip that you posted a pic of.

[Rudyn]

I suspect its the same as E4400 right?

[Razor_Sniper]

I'm almost 100% sure that the 6000 series C2D chips are all soldered to their IHS's.

Razor_Sniper, are you still using air cooling with the IHS removed on the E4300? How does it work out with the socket cover not holding the chip in place completely?

EDIT: Sorry, just realised it's not your chip that you posted a pic of.

I have my IHS also removed. I use watercooling, but because of metal clips that are in the way. I have to use a copper plate, because of this my temps suck with watercooling. I just set the cooling on it. It wil hold the cpu. This weekend I will try the boxed cooler, the base is smaller so I should not need te copper plate. Will post results then :)

Right now my temps are 50 under load in speedfan and 61 under load in TAT. (Load means, orthos ;)) This is with 1.365Vcore and 3.2Ghz. With IHS temps were 72 TAT and 64 Speedfan.

[Cornelious0_0]

I'm curious though, can you remove the sock protector but leave the "frame" that fits into the notches on the CPU so it doesn't move around?

I really wanna pop the top off my E4300, but I won't do it until I get a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, as I don't dare apply the necessary preasure to install the stock cooler with no IHS.

I dunno, if the "frame" of the socket can be left so that it holds the CPU in place then things should work out, and I won't worry about it.

Could you please post pics of the mobo/socket with the naked CPU installed?

EDIT: Seems some newer chips are doing well to, mine's a SL9TB week Q702A472 and hits 3.2GHz @ 1.312v under load and is perfectly stable.

[Razor_Sniper]

I'm curious though, can you remove the sock protector but leave the "frame" that fits into the notches on the CPU so it doesn't move around?

I really wanna pop the top off my E4300, but I won't do it until I get a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, as I don't dare apply the necessary preasure to install the stock cooler with no IHS.

I dunno, if the "frame" of the socket can be left so that it holds the CPU in place then things should work out, and I won't worry about it.

Could you please post pics of the mobo/socket with the naked CPU installed?

EDIT: Seems some newer chips are doing well to, mine's a SL9TB week Q702A472 and hits 3.2GHz @ 1.312v under load and is perfectly stable.

I will post pics if I have the time. But you have to remove the frame thingy that holds the cpu, or else the cooler won't hit the core. Still there is a metal thing that is in the way. But will post pics soon as possible. Busy week :(

[Cornelious0_0]

Thanks...sounds more and more like I might just have to end up lapping the IHS.

[_G_]

Thanks...sounds more and more like I might just have to end up lapping the IHS.

you might want to try mounting the Ultra Extreme before you lap it. part of youre problem may be weak mounting pressure that would be solved by the backing plate.

[Cornelious0_0]

I'll be sure to try it out and see how much the plate helps.

[hersounds]

NEW ROCK SOLID STATE,THIS TIME WITH LAPPING (IHS + SCYTHE NINJA)

HERE THE PICS

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7544/1cpuz35ghziv1.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1cpuz35ghziv1.jpg)

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validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=201375

I don't why ocing my evga 8800,the performance win up to only 1000 points more,of course evga 8800 have Arctic silver 5 and have 39 º celsius in idle,but if i don't see more performance ocing, don't understand why can't be better

[Cornelious0_0]

Very nice, but what is the actual vcore...I'm guessing over 1.400v as that's normally about where CPU-Z craps out on the monitoring.

[hersounds]

yeap actual vcore are 1,450vcore,the lapping was good the temp down -5 º celsius,and now in 24/7 3.0 ghz i only use 1.30 vcore with 31 celsius in idle

[Cornelious0_0]

Nice...really makes me appreciate my chip though...does 3.1GHz /w 1.296v load 24/7 stable and with my 17-18 degree room temps I idle well below 30C. :D

Here's a quick summary of what I've done...sorry if it's seen as a threadjack, but I'm just inputing more references for this E4300 OC discussion.

Link (http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1031114426&postcount=557)

[kennyssp]

can you give me a details voltages in mainboard bios to OC E4300:D

[hersounds]

can you give me a details voltages in mainboard bios to OC E4300:D

i so sorry try yourself man :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Cornelious0_0]

can you give me a details voltages in mainboard bios to OC E4300:D

Are you asking me?

[Ad1tya]

Have you been able to cross 3.5 Ghz?

I need 1.42-1.44 real vCore to get 3.5 Ghz stable on my Q644A..

I just cant get 3.6 Ghz to boot even. Its really irritating :(. Even tried upto
1.54 real vCore. Have you had any luck?

This was on my WC'ing. Right now on Stock, So running 2.93 Ghz ie. 333x9, 24/7 @ 1.32vCore. 25C Idle, 47-50C Load. (Ambients 25-32C) Yes, India is hot :(.

[Cornelious0_0]

goldenfrag, if you're talking to me...no, I haven't.

My chipset is running ridiculously hot due to the OC/chipset voltage needed and non-flat passive heatsink from DFI, so as soon as I get an HR-05 on this thing with a decent fan I'll be good for more stock cooling OCing. :D

[kennyssp]

Are you asking me?

yes, and ..., what does Q644A means?

[coldpower27]

yes, and ..., what does Q644A means?

I think that is the place and week code if I am not mistaken, is Q Malaysia and 44 means Week 44.

[Razor_Sniper]

I have my IHS also removed. I use watercooling, but because of metal clips that are in the way. I have to use a copper plate, because of this my temps suck with watercooling. I just set the cooling on it. It wil hold the cpu. This weekend I will try the boxed cooler, the base is smaller so I should not need te copper plate. Will post results then :)

Right now my temps are 50 under load in speedfan and 61 under load in TAT. (Load means, orthos ;)) This is with 1.365Vcore and 3.2Ghz. With IHS temps were 72 TAT and 64 Speedfan.

Check E4300 overclocking topic to see results ;)