X38... when?

[DangeR!]

Hi,
Any one know when the p38 is expected?

I am very tempted to get the Asus P5K Deluxe. I will have in it a e6600 (upgrade to penry later), 4Gb ram and a 2900xt.
and a few HD on 2 raid 0's.

Is it worth the wait for the p38.?

Dose anyone know if its going to be allot faster than the p35 boards?

Will my PSU power this lot (I think it will be fine, but thought I'd ask anyway)

TY, D!.

[ChaosMinionX]

I would imagine Q3/Q4 07' Along with Penry and X38...

[Vassili]

It's X38 not P38, I guesse the x is for extreme or something.

But anyway it is up to you if you want to wait or not..
We can't tell you anything more than it most likely will be fast.

[DangeR!]

Thanks for the replies.

Hopefully it won't be Q4, I can wait for Q3 though :).

EDIT: Edited the title to mack more sense. (p38 to X38)

[RealTelstar]

If X38 is NOT offering SLI its pointless to wait for it IMO.

[nFo]

http://infomb.googlepages.com/roadmap_2.jpg

[Phosphate]

I would imagine Q3/Q4 07' Along with Penry and X38...

I'm assuming this be SLI compatible? I think it will be true dual x16 PCI-E lanes when both cards are used.

[irev210]

I'm assuming this be SLI compatible? I think it will be true dual x16 PCI-E lanes when both cards are used.

while it will have dual x16 PCI-E, that doesnt mean nvidia will support it with drivers.


Nvidia wants people to buy their crappy 680i boards over intel boards.

[Phosphate]

while it will have dual x16 PCI-E, that doesnt mean nvidia will support it with drivers.


Nvidia wants people to buy their crappy 680i boards over intel boards.

I see your point. I'm just hoping it has it since ATI is now with AMD.

Maybe this is why Intel is coming out with their own video cards? (Still I would hate to have to wait for intel video cards to run a true dual x16 set-up with this one)

[nibble]

Can R600 use dual 16x? If so thats what I assume their for. It wouldn't make sense for AMD to lock Intel chipsets out of their drivers for CF because that would prevent CF on socket 775 altogether, and their not going to do that.

[JayG30]

I feel everyones pain. I to would at the very least LIKE the option of SLI. ATI cards are very good but I don't want to be tied to one brand, especially if the other one is currently offering better GPU's at a better price. I really don't think the x38 is going to support SLI which is sad. P35 seems to be the best chipset right now but again your GPU options are limited. P35 does crossfire though right? 975 is only suppose to do crossfire but of course was hacked to do SLI, but that is of little use now since most people are using newer higher end GPU's like the 8800's.

So really the only option you have if you want to run your high end GPU's in SLI right now, which I guess would be all the gamers (anyone else?), is the 680i chipset. The 680i chipset isn't that bad I don't think. It seems to overclocking rather well, just not as good as some of the others. Memory control is very flexable. So you give up a little for your SLI. Sucks but it's the only way I see being able to do it for some time because Intel isn't going to officially support IMO and people aren't going to keep making hacked drivers every time a new GPU or updated driver comes out.

Dammit all I want is a chipset that runs as good as the p35 with some SLI support.

[JayG30]

Can R600 use dual 16x? If so thats what I assume their for. It wouldn't make sense for AMD to lock Intel chipsets out of their drivers for CF because that would prevent CF on socket 775 altogether, and their not going to do that.

I believe the R600 does use dual 16x and only supports crossfire.

680i is the only official supporter of SLI right now. I want more options dammit!

[bloodbanger]

i'm curious what the price-tags are going to be of those X-38's....The P-35 are priced okay,but i'm afraid you'll get Striker prices with the X-38...

[ChaosMinionX]

i'm curious what the price-tags are going to be of those X-38's....The P-35 are priced okay,but i'm afraid you'll get Striker prices with the X-38...

Of course you would, its Intels high end chipset for performance. It will probably be 250-300$ when it comes out, same as BadAxe2 and other 975X platforms were when they came out....the only bummer is the X38 only supports DDR3 :(

[Richard Dower]

The roadmap says P35 supports 10066MHz DDR2...what does this mean in practice?....will be bios just change the FSB/DRAM ratio automatically?

[DangeR!]

Of course you would, its Intels high end chipset for performance. It will probably be 250-300$ when it comes out, same as BadAxe2 and other 975X platforms were when they came out....the only bummer is the X38 only supports DDR3 :(
Dam. I don't want to pay DDR3 prices when the chip set is ready. Guess I will go for the p35 chip.

[BulldogPO]

Lets hope that it will support also DDR2, damn.

[slim142]

Wait so G35 is worse than G33?

I dont get that...

[Turtle 1]

I see your point. I'm just hoping it has it since ATI is now with AMD.

Maybe this is why Intel is coming out with their own video cards? (Still I would hate to have to wait for intel video cards to run a true dual x16 set-up with this one)

Intel was coming out with its own GPU befor AMD bought ATI. Its part of the reason that AMD bought ATI and why ATI was so willing be bought. Hell my brother in law left ATI for intel way before the bye out rumor started. Looks like he made the smart move.

[stealthbomber]

Does Intel actually have anything worth while in the GPU department in the works for integration into their processors two years from now?

Doesn't look too good for nVidia...

[Thorburn]

I believe X38 launches at Computex in June.
Failing that it'll most likely coincide with the launch of the 1333FSB (65nm) Core 2 Duo's, as it would make no sense to have a range of 1333FSB processors and a 'high-end' chipset which didn't offer official support for them.

[AzraelDarkangel]

Nvidia will be just fine for a long while, I don't see Intel cutting into their mid-high end for a long time. Maybe in 5+ years when gpu on cpu starts getting more advanced. I suspect, without doing alot of research on the subject, that gpu on cpu will only replace motherboard integrated graphics for a while. It will take a long time for such a setup to compete with any of the better graphics cards if it ever can.

[stealthbomber]

No one expects any of the 'all in one' CPU/GPU cores to compete against dedicated mid-high end GFX cards for several years yet but then the vast majority of the profit comes from sales of budget low end solutions, AMD's Fusion provides that.

[mukmaster]

It looks like late Q2 if they are ahead of schedule but other than that I think it will be q3. The reason i think Q2 is because of barcelona will be out soon and I they will make a push to get any last sales

[StealthyFish]

I heard the X38 supports crossfire. Can anyone verify this? (i heard same goes for the P35)

[Richard Dower]

X38 and P35 does support Xfire.

[slim142]

I would like an X38 chipset, but the thing is that I pretty much dont like CrossFire and also NVIDIA chipsets have many stuff that I see usefull including hardware and software.
Something that I dont like from the NVIDIA chipsets is that most motherboards have proven not too hit big numbers while OCing which makes me thinkg twice now.

if Intel could just release a board with SLI support, dam that would be pretty nice.

And just to let you know guys, I think ASUS is doing pretty bad now. Whenever I decide to get antoher motherboard, Ill go for Gigabyte for sure 100%.

[Supertim0r]

maybe SLI soon ? :) (http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=167)

[GAR]

maybe SLI soon ? :) (http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=167)

SICK!!!!!!!!!!:up:

[RealTelstar]

Has anybody heard of the recent collaboration between nvidia and intel? That MAY lead to an intel chipset with SLI.
So far the odds are against, which sucks because so far the P35 is the fastest chipset on the market and looks promising for quads overclocking too.

[RealTelstar]

maybe SLI soon ? :) (http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=167)

oh somebody knew :)

[Thorburn]

Has anybody heard of the recent collaboration between nvidia and intel? That MAY lead to an intel chipset with SLI.
So far the odds are against, which sucks because so far the P35 is the fastest chipset on the market and looks promising for quads overclocking too.

It seems possible for X38.

The ball is entirely in NVIDIA's court really, its already been proven that SLI has been able to run on 955x, 975x and P965 with hacked drivers, only NVIDIAs disabling of the option prevents it now.

[RealTelstar]

Yeah, the ball is in nvida hands. I hope it happens for the X38, otherwise...

I dunno when my next upgrade will be :D

[DangeR!]

I hope they do manage to support SIL, as it will bring down the prices of the X38 MB if every GC runs on it properly. win win.

[DangeR!]

I have another question :D.

Witch p35 board seems to be the best so far? bear in mind my first post components.

[kiwi]

I have another question :D.

Witch p35 board seems to be the best so far? bear in mind my first post components.

P5k deluxe

[DangeR!]

Hi,
Is it worth spending the extra £65 for the deluxe as opposed to the regular board?

I will get 2 rapters and maybe 2 5000AAKS and have 2 raid0.

[Anemone]

Honestly at the prices DDR3 are carrying there is no way most folks are going to touch the X38 unless it supports DDR2, which it won't.

And I'm suspicious that the fact it doesn't support DDR2 has more to do with comparison of the memory type than with anything else. First thing we did with the P35 was to see if DDR3 was faster. We learned what we learned on that one. But Intel hates on it's high end, having any direct comparisons. So don't expect DDR2 on the X38. And don't expect DDR3 to be interesting till a year or so from now if even by that time.

[StealthyFish]

Honestly at the prices DDR3 are carrying there is no way most folks are going to touch the X38 unless it supports DDR2, which it won't.

And I'm suspicious that the fact it doesn't support DDR2 has more to do with comparison of the memory type than with anything else. First thing we did with the P35 was to see if DDR3 was faster. We learned what we learned on that one. But Intel hates on it's high end, having any direct comparisons. So don't expect DDR2 on the X38. And don't expect DDR3 to be interesting till a year or so from now if even by that time.


Yeah. You make a good point. DDR3 will still be too immature, but there are always people who are willing to test out new parts. It's like when DDR2 came out on the market. It'll become stream-lined, just takes time for everyone to accept it.

I do think X38 + Yorksfield//Wolfsdale is a pretty good incentive for going DDR3 though.

[lowfat]

If X38 is only DDR3 I sure won't be touching it for quite some time. I can buy 8GB of decent DDR2 for the same price as 2GB of DDR3...I think not.

[syne_24]

If X38 is only DDR3 I sure won't be touching it for quite some time. I can buy 8GB of decent DDR2 for the same price as 2GB of DDR3...I think not.

I agreed. I'm not going down that route again with high prices for low yield products. And after the initial reviews/benchmarks it's only minimal improvement anyhow. In order words, there is still plenty of time to enjoy ddr2 until prices go down and performance increases on ddr3. Actually I can see myself fine with P35 for penryn support and ride out with ddr2 until better prices.

[ugo1]

Will the X38 support the Qx6700? My current motherboard has the sata controller (ICH7R) not compatible with Vista.:mad:

Ugo

[Thorburn]

Will the X38 support the Qx6700? My current motherboard has the sata controller (ICH7R) not compatible with Vista.:mad:

Ugo

Yes it will.

ICH7R dos support Vista though, I'm using it on my D955XBK and P5W-DH.

[ugo1]

Yes it will.

ICH7R dos support Vista though, I'm using it on my D955XBK and P5W-DH.

look here Intel SATA issue (http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imsm/sb/CS-025783.htm)

Here (http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1553874&SiteID=17)

and

Here (http://www.flyingnerd.com/intel-raid-problem-under-windows-vista/)

and the funny think is that no online site speak about it, they are all pro-Intel ? At this point I think I'll put in the basket bin my 270 Euros motherboard :mad:

Ugo

[Thorburn]

Ah I'm not using RAID with ICH7 :)

No doubt it'll get fixed with time, but I can see that would be annoying.

[RealTelstar]

Hi,
Is it worth spending the extra £65 for the deluxe as opposed to the regular board?

I will get 2 rapters and maybe 2 5000AAKS and have 2 raid0.

Not sure... SO FAR the vdroop fix in the bios works for the deluxe and not for the vanilla. Besides this, I dont think its worth the price premium.
You will need third part cooling for the NB and the mosfet, but I would do the same for most board which comes with lunaparks of heatpipes :D

My DFI works great, so I'm not replacing it, but I was oriented to the p5k vanilla.

[Bootup05]

According to that chart, G33 should be here... so where is it? :poke:

[pochoboy]

According to that chart, G33 should be here... so where is it? :poke:

just realeased i thinks:


http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0&model=1652&modelmenu=2

[Ajfina]

I heard the X38 supports crossfire. Can anyone verify this? (i heard same goes for the P35)

yes it does PCI 2.0 both at full 16x, not SLI

[Ajfina]

I agreed. I'm not going down that route again with high prices for low yield products. And after the initial reviews/benchmarks it's only minimal improvement anyhow. In order words, there is still plenty of time to enjoy ddr2 until prices go down and performance increases on ddr3. Actually I can see myself fine with P35 for penryn support and ride out with ddr2 until better prices.

DFI and gigabite are supporting DDR2 and 3
The LANParty X38-T2R supports DDR2-800 memory while the X38-T3R supports DDR3-1333
GA-X38T-DQ6 offering DDR3 support while the GA-X38-DQ6 supports DDR2. Gigabyte takes DDR3 further than other manufacturers by claiming support for DDR3-1600 memory

[Bootup05]

Some G33 Mobo's avaliable in the UK

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.ASP?CatID=28&FilterCategories=130&Thumbnails=yes

[DangeR!]

cool.

I really like scan these days. I remember ages ago it sucking and prices were through the roof. now they rock.