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StyM
04-10-2007, 08:54 PM
source here (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6854)


Last year, AMD alleged that Intel destroyed evidence, particularly employee emails in an anti-trust case involving monetary perks with system integrators and retailers. According to Intel officials however, complicated corporate restructuring lead to an oversight in data retention, and there was no foul play involved.

AMD alleged that because of Intel's anticompetitive practices, evidence was destroyed to cover up paper trails, losing information from more than 300 case-specific Intel employees.

Despite Intel admitting its loss of data, the company is not off the hook. This week, Intel received a court order to explain why it lost e-mail records that could prove its guilt in anticompetitive practices. The court is giving Intel until April 17th of this year to deliver a satisfactory statement on the data loss.

Intel spokesman Chuck Mulloy indicated to reporters that originally Intel was going to issue a statement on April 10th, but some court delays pushed back the deadline. "It took more than a week to draft the order from the special master so the deadline is now April 17th," said Mulloy. Special master Vincent Poppiti wants Intel to deliver an explanation to the loss as well as propose a improved system for data archiving.

AMD however has a grim outlook on the whole process, doubting Intel's ability to deliver the lost information with integrity. "Although Intel has agreed to restore all data captured in the thousands of backup tapes it made and preserved, no one can say with any degree of confidence that this will put Humpty-Dumpty back together again," said AMD in a statement.

verndewd
04-10-2007, 09:52 PM
:banana: :clap: :toast: :slapass:

good deal.

Reznik Akime
04-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Interesting. However, what would it mean for Intel to lose this case? Would they have to pay AMD or offer up something more? Not been paying close attention to the case.

verndewd
04-10-2007, 10:06 PM
Interesting. However, what would it mean for Intel to lose this case? Would they have to pay AMD or offer up something more? Not been paying close attention to the case.

Its pretty significant.If Intel loses they could be ordered to pay damages to AMD.

Xope_Poquar
04-10-2007, 10:24 PM
Wait, so what did Intel do to AMD? From how it's worded it keeps making me think they bribed AMD's System Integrators and retailers into doing something. Did they steal information? :confused:

WangChung
04-10-2007, 10:29 PM
Wait, so what did Intel do to AMD? From how it's worded it keeps making me think they bribed AMD's System Integrators and retailers into doing something. Did they steal information? :confused:

Intel "stupposedly" paid off OEMs such as Dell and HP to NOT use AMD processors, and also threatened those OEMs with pulling contracts and dragging their feet in supply lines if they did use AMD processors.

Xope_Poquar
04-10-2007, 10:39 PM
Oh, I remember hearing about that. That's some pretty serious stuff, I hope Intel didn't sink that low. If they did I hope they have to give AMD a bunch of money, or fabrication plants or something. :p:

nn_step
04-10-2007, 10:44 PM
Wait, so what did Intel do to AMD? From how it's worded it keeps making me think they bribed AMD's System Integrators and retailers into doing something. Did they steal information? :confused:

The history between AMD and intel is one of bad blood running all the way back to the 286

verndewd
04-10-2007, 11:09 PM
The history between AMD and intel is one of bad blood running all the way back to the 286
What happened there?

verndewd
04-10-2007, 11:11 PM
Oh, I remember hearing about that. That's some pretty serious stuff, I hope Intel didn't sink that low. If they did I hope they have to give AMD a bunch of money, or fabrication plants or something. :p:

they lost a case for the same thing to AMD in japan in 05. also they were sued for unlawful use of AMD tech in 99,and AMD won.

alpha0ne
04-10-2007, 11:16 PM
Read All About It...........LATEST NEWS HEADLINES

Intel ordered to pay AMD 5 Squillion Dollars :fact: :slapass: :banana:

verndewd
04-10-2007, 11:20 PM
Read All About It...........LATEST NEWS HEADLINES

Intel ordered to pay AMD 5 Squillion Dollars :fact: :slapass: :banana:


love to see that day :slapass: :slapass: :slapass: :slapass: with beer in hand and otellini on a spit over an open fire.:p:

xlink
04-10-2007, 11:23 PM
I hope AMD gets a few billion out of this. I don't care if they deserve it or not, I just think them having it would go to better use than intel using it to line their cash reserves.

verndewd
04-10-2007, 11:30 PM
I hope AMD gets a few billion out of this. I don't care if they deserve it or not, I just think them having it would go to better use than intel using it to line their cash reserves.

That and Intel is planning to take on spansions dominance in nor by teaming up with stm. when will the hog be fed enough?

syne_24
04-10-2007, 11:34 PM
At this rate AMD need all the break they can get. I hope whatever Intel did will benefit AMD somehow.

Celeron Gamer
04-10-2007, 11:37 PM
I hope AMD gets a few billion out of this. I don't care if they deserve it or not, I just think them having it would go to better use than intel using it to line their cash reserves.

Suing is one thing, but AMD deserving the money more just because Intel would be putting it into their cash reserve? What kind of statement is that?

I'm sure your socialist ways would boost technology development:)

verndewd
04-10-2007, 11:40 PM
Suing is one thing, but AMD deserving the money more just because Intel would be putting it into their cash reserve? What kind of statement is that?

I'm sure your socialist ways would boost technology development:)

To a degree he is correct. AMd could use a few billion to boost next gen production where Intel would just work at its plan to rule over the entire breadth of the pc tech domain.

Via,Transmeta,AMD,etc. While it is true that intel gave AMD its start in licensing;those days are done and when AMD comes back up ;I hope it will have a pronounced effect.

there are some tech areas Intel really has no business bieng in and others they deny getting into because the market hasnt been created.

Intel tried on die gfx and IMC and gave up on it ;AMD made it work with 64 bit capabilities to the whine of intel execs saying windows was only a mainstream os. Of course the on die gfx has yet to appear but based on history i think we can expect decent ideas.

xlink
04-10-2007, 11:54 PM
Suing is one thing, but AMD deserving the money more just because Intel would be putting it into their cash reserve? What kind of statement is that?

I'm sure your socialist ways would boost technology development:)

actually it's more of a laissez faire thing... see I want them to be on equal grounds so they can compete in a fair enviroment...

I'm a firm believer in the theory that if all the worlds money were to be evenly distributed, the wealth would be redistributed similar to how it is now within a relatively short period of time.

verndewd
04-11-2007, 12:14 AM
actually it's more of a laissez faire thing... see I want them to be on equal grounds so they can compete in a fair enviroment...

I'm a firm believer in the theory that if all the worlds money were to be evenly distributed, the wealth would be redistributed similar to how it is now within a relatively short period of time.

not everyone is good with money.:cool:

nn_step
04-11-2007, 08:02 AM
What happened there?

might i suggest you read this http://www.mdronline.com/mpr_public/editorials/edit19_13.html

exhausted mule
04-11-2007, 08:18 AM
To a degree he is correct. AMd could use a few billion to boost next gen production where Intel would just work at its plan to rule over the entire breadth of the pc tech domain.

Via,Transmeta,AMD,etc. While it is true that intel gave AMD its start in licensing;those days are done and when AMD comes back up ;I hope it will have a pronounced effect.

there are some tech areas Intel really has no business bieng in and others they deny getting into because the market hasnt been created.

Intel tried on die gfx and IMC and gave up on it ;AMD made it work with 64 bit capabilities to the whine of intel execs saying windows was only a mainstream os. Of course the on die gfx has yet to appear but based on history i think we can expect decent ideas.

what you guys are smoking?


without intel...

there would be no amd.


;)

besides, a uniform power is usually how it goes in any industry or area of agenda. they are both competing on the same market and yes its good to have competition, but you can't honestly say that to once be on top its nice once in awhile to taste the dirt you stand on.

(by all area of affect it is but that's besides the point)

you wouldn't.

i say if intel is forced to do anything concerning payments due to damages than so should these other companies in question regarding the bribing.

your just as responsible as the one offering the bride in the first place if you take it.

EternityZX9
04-11-2007, 08:29 AM
might i suggest you read this http://www.mdronline.com/mpr_public/editorials/edit19_13.html

So I guess this is round 10 or are we past that yet?

Poodle
04-11-2007, 09:09 AM
Amd better win this as Intel might have something to sue Amd. I've been reading rumours about Amd using technologies that are patented by companies that are now owned by Intel.


We should be glad that Intel and Amd hate each other and not us as the memory companies do.

verndewd
04-11-2007, 10:52 AM
what you guys are smoking?


without intel...

there would be no amd.


;)

besides, a uniform power is usually how it goes in any industry or area of agenda. they are both competing on the same market and yes its good to have competition, but you can't honestly say that to once be on top its nice once in awhile to taste the dirt you stand on.

(by all area of affect it is but that's besides the point)

you wouldn't.

i say if intel is forced to do anything concerning payments due to damages than so should these other companies in question regarding the bribing.

your just as responsible as the one offering the bride in the first place if you take it.

:p: id ont share so dont ask :p: Sorry dewd I am on a rant about Intel these days as it lowers margins to damage AMD's equitability.You dont honestly think they care about giving consumers a great deal do you? :nono:

nn_step
04-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Amd better win this as Intel might have something to sue Amd. I've been reading rumours about Amd using technologies that are patented by companies that are now owned by Intel.


We should be glad that Intel and Amd hate each other and not us as the memory companies do.

Amen to that

Celeron Gamer
04-11-2007, 03:35 PM
actually it's more of a laissez faire thing... see I want them to be on equal grounds so they can compete in a fair enviroment...

I'm a firm believer in the theory that if all the worlds money were to be evenly distributed, the wealth would be redistributed similar to how it is now within a relatively short period of time.

Then there would be no "push" to make technology what it is today. We can just hit the 800MHz barrier without capitalistic competition.

xlink
04-11-2007, 03:44 PM
no i mean I want to see them on equal financial grounds RIGHT HERE AND now.

not indefinitely.

Starscream
04-11-2007, 03:49 PM
Interesting. However, what would it mean for Intel to lose this case? Would they have to pay AMD or offer up something more? Not been paying close attention to the case.

Intel has cases running against them in various countrys.

im guessing that each of them has there own way of punishment.
Some will force Intel to pay damages ot AMD and others will put a fine ontop ofit.

i remember the story of someone here on XS who got bullied by Intel into only buying Intel and he said no.
Those people that said NO are also in a case vs Intel (do hope Intel has to pay huge damages in those cases as those are the small busineses that got killed).


if Intel cant deliver the lost data or if the data they deliver is fishy theyl b screwed.

exhausted mule
04-11-2007, 09:57 PM
;2122625 You dont honestly think they care about giving consumers a great deal do you? :nono:


of course not. intel doesn't want more customers...

nn_step
04-11-2007, 10:04 PM
of course not. intel doesn't want more customers...

honestly they don't care about Customers directly, rather the money in their pockets... But that is true for most companies anyways

verndewd
04-11-2007, 11:04 PM
of course not. intel doesn't want more customers...

:nuts: :wierd: :hehe: :lol2: :toast: I guess caring is what prescott was all about. And btx. Oh and arguing transmeta into an IP company and wrenching whatever they could from via to continue licensing.

They care so much it just breaks my heart. :clap: No they dont want more customers they want a higher market percentage,having customers in the mom and pop sense of the word means tending to each one and accommodating them for their efforts on behalf of the respect for a hard earned dollar.

I used to hand carve pipes and they were some cool works of art,If I had the means to accommodate the people who purchased them these 10 years later i would as i sold them at a nice premium and i respect the efforts they made to appreciate my work. That is caring.

to intel a customer is the 400k chips going to google servers. or was it 400k servers? point is its the volume that defines a customer.I am sure new egg is considered a customer as well.

xlink
04-11-2007, 11:48 PM
intel cannot sue amd over some technology
the same goes for amd
they have an agreement concerning x86 chips
thats the reasond amd didn't sue intel when it copied x64, or the other way arround when amd copies intel features

I wonder how is intel gonna bring back the stuff they destroyed on purpose...

It's like the court ordering me to bring back the food I ate yesterday - could do, but I wonder what use they will make of it :)

well unless they physically destroyed the drives getting the data back wouldn't be all that hard.

gdogg
04-11-2007, 11:51 PM
well unless they physically destroyed the drives getting the data back wouldn't be all that hard.

heh, your assuming all they did was press the delete key in windows lol.