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BeyondSciFi
03-27-2007, 07:56 AM
Hello all, as you may or may not know, the new reincarnation of the GTA genre is due out on October 16, 2007. This is relativly major in the gaming world as most of us have played or at least heard of the Grand Theft Auto series. The new game in the series will be completely redesigned from the ground up on new graphics, physics and sound engines. The purpose of this thread is to post any and all upcoming news, pics and other forms of media as they break. Currently there is not much know about this game as Rock* has been very secretive about letting information out to the public. However if check their main site you would have noticed that the release date for the first gameplay trailer has been posted as 6:00pm EST on March 29, 2007. Until then, I have posted a link to a video of the animation engine that is said to be used in GTA IV. Enjoy:)

Trailer Link: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=18206 (Very High Quality)
http://www.rockstargames.com/iv/trailer_splash.html (High Quality)
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/827/827005/vid_1949114.html (High Quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlF6fbIFiCM (Low Quality)

Animation Engine Demo:
http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=43855

GTA IV Fansite w/ news:
http://www.gta4.net/news/index.php

Dimitriman
03-27-2007, 08:05 AM
Amazing

DilTech
03-27-2007, 08:13 AM
That's not the physics engine, that's the animation engine... They're two different things.

BeyondSciFi
03-27-2007, 08:15 AM
Is the animation/physics engine, look at the second video.

DilTech
03-27-2007, 08:19 AM
I'd rather take a look at their website...

http://www.naturalmotion.com/euphoria.htm

You still need a physics engine to use with it. It is NOT a physics engine.
http://www.naturalmotion.com/news.htm
That's the one rockstar is using. The euphoria engine.

http://www.naturalmotion.com/endorphin.htm

Endorphin, which was the first link, isn't being used by rockstar, so having the link to the tech video for it is really no and void.

BeyondSciFi
03-27-2007, 08:28 AM
Ok my bad, I just posted stuff I read somewhere else. I didn't have time to check it. Ill take down the first link.

MAS
03-27-2007, 08:41 AM
is GTA IV DX10-capable?

thunderstruck!
03-27-2007, 08:52 AM
I hope it's got online MP! :banana:

Brettbeck
03-27-2007, 08:57 AM
I hope it's got online MP! :banana:

Me too! If anyone has played MTA they will know how chaotic it can be... so much fun.
I once got banned from a server for using helicopter blades as a weapon LOL :D. About 20 people were having a gang war so I just went in helicopter blades first :p: .

DilTech
03-27-2007, 09:03 AM
Ok my bad, I just posted stuff I read somewhere else. I didn't have time to check it. Ill take down the first link.

Now you just need to change physics engine to animation engine and you're good to go. :D

BeyondSciFi
03-27-2007, 09:34 AM
Aye Aye Captain DilTech, tx for the update. :) I have to work so I dont have that much time to check my posts.

perkam
03-27-2007, 09:37 AM
I hope it's got online MP! :banana:
I can see it now, entire xs online at the same time going against tanks, planes, helis....having uploaded the xs logo onto the shirts of the ingame characters X (

Perkam

h@RRy
03-27-2007, 10:06 AM
Ahh the euphoria engine, see "Star wars -- the force unleashed" trailers to get another perspective:D I'm SUPER psyched on euphoria(Jedi Knight 3?):D:D:D

thunderstruck!
03-27-2007, 10:09 AM
I can see it now, entire xs online at the same time going against tanks, planes, helis....having uploaded the xs logo onto the shirts of the ingame characters X (

Perkam
Haha, that would be awesome.

Jamesrt2004
03-27-2007, 10:54 AM
I can see it now, entire xs online at the same time going against tanks, planes, helis....having uploaded the xs logo onto the shirts of the ingame characters X (

Perkam

Lol, I'd buy the game if we done that :p:

DilTech
03-27-2007, 11:03 AM
I can see it now, entire xs online at the same time going against tanks, planes, helis....having uploaded the xs logo onto the shirts of the ingame characters X (

Perkam

Til someone overclocks their arsenal and it isn't rocket stable, and it backfires and blows us all up.

L1m1t.NL
03-27-2007, 01:45 PM
Has anyone noticed this?

People on websites say that there is some sort of hint in the script of the count-down page. I checked it and they're right. It says in one line '<script>theDudeAbides();</script>'. 'The Dude Abides' is a famous quote from the movie 'The Big Lebowski'.
First of all, the movie takes place in California, so that may be a clue.
The Big Lebowski is also often compared to 'The Truth' from GTA III: SA. Just look at this Wikipedia quotation:

'In Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, there are numerous references to the movie including: Carl "CJ" Johnson (the last name being a repeated word in the movie), several exact quotes that were said in the movie are said in the game, the character The Truth, in the game, loosely resembles the main character of Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski.'

So don't be surprised if you see 'The Truth' appearing in the trailer. I can't wait! :banana:

thunderstruck!
03-27-2007, 02:36 PM
One of my favorite movies of all time, nice..

Kingcarcas
03-27-2007, 09:04 PM
Looks sweet, tomorrow is the big day so who is camping out?? lol jk :D

wedfighter
03-27-2007, 09:51 PM
prepare your download manager :lol:
hopefully it can be downloaded and not just a flash one

oohms
03-27-2007, 09:55 PM
Too bad its not being released on PC

johnsally
03-27-2007, 10:40 PM
Too bad its not being released on PC

it'll be released a couple months after release.

Kanten
03-28-2007, 12:00 AM
HD trailer? Better be.

BeyondSciFi
03-28-2007, 09:58 PM
15 hours to go!!! Just in time so I can get some sleep.

Aerou
03-29-2007, 01:27 AM
vice city was the biggest lanparty-slaughter I ever had, tons of fun,
but MTA was buggy

perkam
03-29-2007, 05:24 AM
If what the site says is true, the trailer will be here today at 2PM EST.

Perkam

phelan1777
03-29-2007, 05:49 AM
Me too! If anyone has played MTA they will know how chaotic it can be... so much fun.
I once got banned from a server for using helicopter blades as a weapon LOL :D. About 20 people were having a gang war so I just went in helicopter blades first :p: .

Now see to me that is creative thinking.........not cheating.

gdogg
03-29-2007, 05:59 AM
If what the site says is true, the trailer will be here today at 2PM EST.

Perkam

I am getting 5PM EST, being as I am in the est time zone.

2PM PST though according to the greenwichmeantime site.

Being as its summer hours, thats already been applied in this post.

deathman20
03-29-2007, 06:13 AM
Oh thats right the trailer comes out today :) That site will be hammered.

SoF
03-29-2007, 06:53 AM
good news, will look on their site this evening and check out how it looks like.

phelan1777
03-29-2007, 08:35 AM
I am getting 5PM EST, being as I am in the est time zone.

2PM PST though according to the greenwichmeantime site.

Being as its summer hours, thats already been applied in this post.

Where you on the Est cst?

phelan1777
03-29-2007, 08:38 AM
I love my job, have mad connection with works ISP! Page loaded, so I can refresh @.

deathman20
03-29-2007, 09:00 AM
Oh that trailer will air just when I leave work (Doh) Will have to wait til I get home.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 11:22 AM
Good Morning everyone. (Atleast for me) We now only have 1 hour 38 mins to go. Woot!
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana::banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

DilTech
03-29-2007, 11:25 AM
I tried setting my clock to after the time. It tricked the flash countdown, but the page for the movie doesn't exist yet.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 11:30 AM
I guess security at Rock* is pretty good then. :)

DilTech
03-29-2007, 12:07 PM
Wouldn't call it security, they just literally haven't uploaded the page yet. Going to try it again later.

Nope still not up, but the page they take you to is.
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/index2.html

Just try that link here and there and you'll probably get to see the trailer before it's launched.

thephenom
03-29-2007, 12:14 PM
Can't wait until this comes out for PC. Even if graphics aren't all the great, and you got to admit that all the previous ones were great to begin with, I have to say that GTA-series has probably been one of the only titles that remained entertaining despite so many sequels.

Most games now a days doesn't get much game hours out of it. STALKER could of been Oblivion caliber, but horribly buggy, and missing a few minor features to make the gameplay more enjoyable. Supreme Commander got boring after a while. C&C3 should be fun, campaign should give people a good amount of playing time, and for P2P, the sky's the limit.

gdogg
03-29-2007, 01:01 PM
Where you on the Est cst?

As my post stated im in EST, eastern standard time.

We are in summer hours atm, I assume PST Pacific standard time is too.

BTW two minute into when it should be showing it, site is timing out. BOOOO.

StixxX
03-29-2007, 01:04 PM
I keep getting error on the page..all that waiting for nothing..anyone seen it yet?

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Im getting the error page too... This sucks, we have waited a month for this crap. Get your act together Rock*.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 01:18 PM
I read on another forum that the trailer will go life 1 hour after the count down is finished... Sigh...

eXceeded
03-29-2007, 01:22 PM
mine is showing as 32minutes remaining :S...

StixxX
03-29-2007, 01:26 PM
i knew it! there was going to be a massive overloaded..hopefully the game isn't bad as their planning:slapass:

Rmc[AZ]
03-29-2007, 01:31 PM
The trailer has always been scheduled to show at 3 PM PST... still 30 mins left.

I'll put down $5 that the site will be down for 1+ hours.

Canibuz
03-29-2007, 01:52 PM
Its up its asking me to verify age its taking forever to load though.

Mankz_91
03-29-2007, 01:56 PM
I hope its as breathtaking as we think its going to be.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 02:01 PM
Is it loading for anyone? Its 2 mins past the hour...

Canibuz
03-29-2007, 02:01 PM
and the website times out...

Face
03-29-2007, 02:03 PM
Heh.
It went down the second the countdown was over.(redirecting here btw : http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/index2.html

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 02:03 PM
Wow this sucks... Is demand really that high???

Rmc[AZ]
03-29-2007, 02:06 PM
Basically every site that has anything to do with GTA is down. This kinda sucks... I would have thought Rockstar would have planned better for this.

Syn.
03-29-2007, 02:08 PM
i made it to the flash player, not loading movie. Tried downloading the file but that server is WAAAY to crawded. Its like a ocean trying to leak through a straw.

Guess we will have to wait till someone reuploads it somewhere.

Canibuz
03-29-2007, 02:12 PM
i wish amazon would of planned better for the $100 dollar x360 deal and i wish R* would of planned better...

Cooper
03-29-2007, 02:13 PM
That`s it ?
that`s the whole trailer ?


........lame.......

Rmc[AZ]
03-29-2007, 02:15 PM
i wish amazon would of planned better for the $100 dollar x360 deal and i wish R* would of planned better...

Haha I was there for that one also...

Edit: http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_gta4_trailer1_720p.wmv This is working for me... downloading at 120 kb/s.

Syn.
03-29-2007, 02:16 PM
http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/video_player/popup.php?sid=6168304&pid=933036

Only other site that has it so far.

downloading .mov version now.

Cooper
03-29-2007, 02:19 PM
gametrailers.com is too busy as well...guess they do have this trailer also

Syn.
03-29-2007, 02:27 PM
gametrailers.com is too busy as well...guess they do have this trailer also

checked thier no trailer.

You know since i posted gamespot link download feel from 60k to 16k. I am not going to be a nice guy next time.

Bootup05
03-29-2007, 02:32 PM
Wow that trailer looks MUCH better than GTA:SA

Canibuz
03-29-2007, 02:33 PM
checked thier no trailer.

You know since i posted gamespot link download feel from 60k to 16k. I am not going to be a nice guy next time.



wow im getting 40kb/s steady

L1m1t.NL
03-29-2007, 02:36 PM
I've got the trailer downloaded on my PC! Haha! :banana:

BTW, it looks like we're back in Liberty City! With B-E-A-U-tiful graphics in HD! Slightly worse than Alan Wake, which is a big compliment IMO. The leading man in the trailer seems to be a Latino immigrant who's making his way through Liberty City.
This is going to be a big hit by the looks of it, it might just get more popular than Halo 3! :woot:

Rmc[AZ]
03-29-2007, 02:39 PM
I've got the trailer downloaded on my PC! Haha! :banana:

BTW, it looks like we're back in Liberty City! With B-E-A-U-tiful graphics in HD! Slightly worse than Alan Wake, which is a big compliment IMO. The leading man in the trailer seems to be a Latino immigrant who's making his way through Liberty City.
This is going to be a big hit by the looks of it, it might just get more popular than Halo 3! :woot:

Latino? He is most definitely Russian/Ukranian/etc.

I was slightly disappointed by the trailer, but not too much. The graphics look stunning, and it looks as if it might be an accurate representation of New York City. Now we'll have to wait months for any other info. :(

Canibuz
03-29-2007, 02:46 PM
here is the link to the HD trailer going painfully slow at this time.

http://www.gta4.net/trailer/gta4_trailer.torrent

L1m1t.NL
03-29-2007, 02:50 PM
;2098617']Latino? He is most definitely Russian/Ukranian/etc.

Alright, so he is. I had no sound at first, so I didn't hear his accent right. He is indeed an East-European immigrant by the sound of it. Excuse me.

catsarecute
03-29-2007, 02:50 PM
i guest i am lucky because i got it at 500k/sec!! one word....AWESOME

Fr3ak
03-29-2007, 02:56 PM
Looks good :)

Hopefully it plays as good as it looks.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 03:03 PM
Youtube link to trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlF6fbIFiCM

phelan1777
03-29-2007, 03:04 PM
DLing it now, taking a litle while. But looks good so far, just hope game play is on par for the course.

It looks good.

Canibuz
03-29-2007, 03:06 PM
I'd suggest people try the torrent I just gave the link to a couple of friends and they got around 100kb/s I myself am uploading at 75kb/s

Cooper
03-29-2007, 03:07 PM
;2098617']Latino? He is most definitely Russian/Ukranian/etc.


Not Latino, not Ukranian and definatly not Russian.
He sounds just like people from west Asia...Chechnya, Iran, Georgia etc.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 03:09 PM
I have posted the youtube link for the trailer, if anyone has a high quality link please post it here. Thank you. :)

L1m1t.NL
03-29-2007, 03:23 PM
Busy on uploading it on Youtube myself, 15&#37;, i'll put a link up as soon as I can get it to work.

gdogg
03-29-2007, 03:26 PM
wow I never thought it would be done, over 10 mins going 540KB/S.

Now it starts to play, I hope it was worth the wait.


edit
That was not fair, if I am going to ever watch a high def trailer again, I am going to want to know run times ...

citat3962
03-29-2007, 03:28 PM
Wow... Looks Amazingly detailed. Can't wait!

I'm glad they went back to NYC for this one. IMO it's the PERFECT setting for GTA bar none..

deathman20
03-29-2007, 04:04 PM
Looks great, they definatly did quiet a bit with the engine and finally looks like a nice upgrade to the franchise. As well I think that looks like New York just with that Chrysler looking building in the preview.

Looking forward to this, but man they should of showed off more of the engine. I wanted to see more cars grrr.

BTW 600KB/s when I tried it 5:43PM CST.

Edit: Duh Statue and all besides Liberty City shown on the boat itself.

The HDR and reflections look great as well.

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 04:10 PM
IGN HIGH QUALITY TRAILER LINK (STREAMING): http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/827/827005/vid_1949114.html

perkam
03-29-2007, 05:33 PM
bs-ness...i prefer the new Colin Mcrae DIRT trailer - though neither are awesome, I'm more likely to grab that than GTA 3.5.

Perkam

BeyondSciFi
03-29-2007, 05:37 PM
Yeah, I wasnt blow away by it either. Still, not much information is known about this game so I would wait until a review of the game comes out to really judge it.

gdogg
03-29-2007, 05:53 PM
I hope they got hot coffee in this version too, it just made san andreas an all around game.

Honestly this is the best looking gta yet, I don't see how anyone can complain about it. I guess if your not a GTA fan it would be easy.

perkam
03-29-2007, 05:57 PM
I hope they got hot coffee in this version too, it just made san andreas an all around game.I'm going to leave that as it is, but the first person to get too excited after reading that will be sent to san adreas through brooklyn river with cement blocks for shoes.

Perkam

gdogg
03-29-2007, 06:14 PM
I'm going to leave that as it is, but the first person to get too excited after reading that will be sent to san adreas through brooklyn river with cement blocks for shoes.

Perkam

:gay:

Sorry had to, cause its not often I see a gangster threat in a forum. Guess its just too much much GTA for you.

LOL

Not trying to offend you, btw.

NickS
03-29-2007, 06:30 PM
The new GTA looks AWESOME. I can't wait!

Kingcarcas
03-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Let's see.....that leaves me 6 months to get a 360:D

Mankz_91
03-30-2007, 02:47 AM
oh yeah. We all love pysico russian/ukrainians in these kinda games.


( noracial predudice intended)

Face
03-30-2007, 11:04 AM
Well I did excpect some gameplay to show but I can't be dissappointed, The graphics looks really great.

Oh, I don't know what about you guys, but for me this was the real highlight of the vid -

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7452/2ahma2yw0.png

The new GTA hero.. Ahmadinejad?

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7389/iran2ie5.jpg

//End stupid joke. But they really do look the same :p:

phelan1777
03-30-2007, 11:07 AM
I love the cosmonaut in Armageddon, and in vindictive nerd Golden Eye.

syne_24
03-30-2007, 11:15 AM
Trailer is a little short but some nice graphics for sure. The guy in the demo reminds me of Keyser Soze lol..

triple_A
03-30-2007, 11:33 AM
Looks pretty good to me. hope to see some more previews of it soon.

But why-oh-why does it take an additional couple of moths before a pc version comes out dammit :(

Kanten
03-30-2007, 12:06 PM
Looks pretty good to me. hope to see some more previews of it soon.

But why-oh-why does it take an additional couple of moths before a pc version comes out dammit :(


Because developers keep buying into Epic and Id's "PC is evil" campaign.

L1m1t.NL
03-30-2007, 01:46 PM
I found a very interesting resemblence in the character in the trailer and another character in the GTA franchise.

It looks like the guy in the trailer is not Russian, since he is probably the leader of the Russian Maffia in GTA2: Jerkov. He is Serbian... Nice name though! :D

As we know... Toni Cipriani from Liberty City Stories also had a minor role in GTA 3, this could indeed be Jerkov. Also, Claude Speed appeared in GTA:SA as a gang-member, where he lost a forest-race from CJ.
Also, it should also fit a present-day setting because Jerkov was murdered in 2013 in GTA 2 when he was 41 years old. So he should be 34 or 35 years old in 2007.
It is also very remarkable that the when the character was talking, the docks appeared. Jerkov used to be around the docks in the Industrial Zone in GTA 2!
See the resemblence for yourself!

Here is some info about Jerkov from the official GTA 2-website (http://www.rockstargames.com/gta2/journal/jerkov.html)


http://www.gta.cz/gta2/data/hlavnipostavy/11-3-2006_12-51-23.jpg<----------------->http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9438/jerkov2007va8.png

BeyondSciFi
03-30-2007, 02:59 PM
I found a very interesting resemblence in the character in the trailer and another character in the GTA franchise.

It looks like the guy in the trailer is not Russian, since he is probably the leader of the Russian Maffia in GTA2: Jerkov. He is Serbian... Nice name though! :D

As we know... Toni Cipriani from Liberty City Stories also had a minor role in GTA 3, this could indeed be Jerkov. Also, Claude Speed appeared in GTA:SA as a gang-member, where he lost a forest-race from CJ.
Also, it should also fit a present-day setting because Jerkov was murdered in 2013 in GTA 2 when he was 41 years old. So he should be 34 or 35 years old in 2007.
It is also very remarkable that the when the character was talking, the docks appeared. Jerkov used to be around the docks in the Industrial Zone in GTA 2!
See the resemblence for yourself!

Here is some info about Jerkov from the official GTA 2-website (http://www.rockstargames.com/gta2/journal/jerkov.html)


http://www.gta.cz/gta2/data/hlavnipostavy/11-3-2006_12-51-23.jpg<----------------->http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9438/jerkov2007va8.png

Wow very nice find!!! You may have solved the GTA4 mystery and in only 1 day! :)

wedfighter
03-30-2007, 06:13 PM
it seems GTA4 will looks yellowish as GTA:SA
it still lacks of rich colour, buat the shader technology is pretty improvement compare to the old GTAs
anyone know the minimum req to play ?

Kanten
03-30-2007, 06:54 PM
it seems GTA4 will looks yellowish as GTA:SA
it still lacks of rich colour, buat the shader technology is pretty improvement compare to the old GTAs
anyone know the minimum req to play ?

A 360 or a PS3. :p:

xmax
03-31-2007, 02:33 AM
So when is this coming to the PC ?

Vapor
03-31-2007, 02:41 AM
So when is this coming to the PC ?Probably April-June '08.

Syn.
03-31-2007, 03:02 AM
Let's see.....that leaves me 6 months to get a 360:D

just in time for a new Premium with 65nm Chips+HDMI cable+120GB HD+Cheaper price?

Good things come to those who wait. Halo3+GTA4 :slobber: