RAM Recommendations?

[StealthyFish]

So I'm considering of getting the 2gb kit of Firestix DDR2 800 from newegg.com. Do they still come with D9GMH's? I've been hearing of elipda's being set onto these sticks now. What do you guys think my chances are of getting D9's. My budget is around 200. Nothing more than 230 unless it's a really compelling buy (which I really don't see anymore since all ram prices dropped). Anything cheaper than the Firestix that has D9's?

[rvd]

95% chance of d9gmh, but don't quote me on that.

[StealthyFish]

here's the link (for all those too lazy to go search it on newegg's site =) )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820150054

[irev210]

i've ordered three sets, all three were Micron D9GMH.

Its poorly binned, so expect a lot of variance. But, for 164 bucks, it is by far the BEST priced D9GMH out there.

I'd say go for it.

[StealthyFish]

hm... how about these three?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146118

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820227169

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146673

or... I could get 2 kits of this:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=T800UX1GC4

[StealthyFish]

Btw, I'm looking for the best overclock for the price (as with everyone else here :) ), and though the firestix look good and they seem to overclock like no other, that phrase "low binned" is really getting to me, lol. I'll spend a little more if I can get a better kit that guarantees higher clocks.

Also, would I receive a benefit in overclocks if I get 4 sticks of 512 over 2 sticks of 1gb?

[nicepun]

here's the link (for all those too lazy to go search it on newegg's site =) )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820150054

Buffalo Firestix FTW!!!!!

[StealthyFish]

Buffalo Firestix FTW!!!!!

lol. No comments on the other sets I've listed?

Edit: I'm removing the EM2 Mushkin RAM. Found it they have Aeneon IC's. Now it's just the Mushkin HP2 or the Firestix.. or supertalent

[kemo]

The OCZ is not a good clocker
The Mushkin HP2 irev210 bought two sets @ early February both were D9GMH but mushkin don’t guarantee GMH on these parts and they say GMH is very rare so your safest bet is buffalo

[Sir Smokealot]

here's the link (for all those too lazy to go search it on newegg's site =) )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820150054

mmmmmm thats some sweet looking ram bam thank you mam .

[StealthyFish]

mmmmmm thats some sweet looking ram bam thank you mam .

Hmm... the one thing that's holding me back from hurrying over to newegg and buying the ram is that I've got a chance to get Elipda IC's :(

The super talent stuff seems to be decent:

D9GCT
D9GMH
D9GKX

IC's have been reported by numerous users...

[kemo]

Super talent got Zero chance to get D9 those GKX , GMH , GCT are old sticks and with Buffalo Elipda was never found from newegg

[StealthyFish]

Super talent got Zero chance to get D9 those GKX , GMH , GCT are old sticks and with Buffalo Elipda was never found from newegg

hmm

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146568

what about if I got 2 kits of this? I'm just kind of looking at everything right now so I don't slap myself when I buy something and realize that there was something else better for the same price.

[kemo]

Now you are talking about 218$ shipped so i would take the G.Skill PC6400HK(185$ shipped , super high bin Promos review here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132015)) or PC6400HZ 215$ shipped D9GMH

[StealthyFish]

Now you are talking about 218$ shipped so i would take the G.Skill PC6400HK(185$ shipped , super high bin Promos review here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132015)) or PC6400HZ 215$ shipped D9GMH

Those sticks look good =) I didn't realize that D9GMH's were harder to come by than I thought. Wish no one knew about Team Xtreme... :( lol

[kemo]

Just a small note Buffalo Elpida were bought from Microcenter only (October - November)
and a quote from a guy that works @ Buffalo

Kemo6600
While we haven't guaranteed that FSX800D2C will always be Micron D9, I don't have a record of any FSX800D2C build here (in Austin, Tx) that used Elpida.
We bin, assemble, and re-bin the FireStix modules in Japan and Taiwan, then put the heat-spreaders on in Austin, Tx (where I am). It is possible you have a mis-labeled module(s). The Elpida chip in the picture, should be on a module with a FSX800D2B label, meaning CL4 timing at 800MHz speed.

[-n7-]

This thread is hilarious.

The OP wants the best bang for buck overclockable RAM out there.

The Buffalo Firestix are that kit w/o question.

But somehow, he doesn't actually want the best bang for buck kit out there apparently, so he goes looking for more expensive crappier kits.

Why?!?

I swear i see this same kind of thread every few weeks.

Buffalo is using D9GMH.
It's not hand picked D9GMH, so it may not clock to to DDR2-1200 speeds.

Well ffs!

What can you expect from sub $200 RAM.

There is nothing out there that will consistently overclock as well as the Firestix in that price range.

End of story.

/pardon the rant, but some people just don't seem to get it, & i see this same question asked every week on various forums

[nicepun]

Super talent got Zero chance to get D9 those GKX , GMH , GCT are old sticks and with Buffalo Elipda was never found from newegg

I can confirm the latest Super Talent sucks bigtime, I ventured with the T800UX2GC4 (Blue heatspreader year 07 week 09). I really don't want to get into it too much but plain and simple they are junk for overclocking.

Go for the Buffalo Firestix, at that price you still have money left over for alot of beer.

[irev210]

Btw, I'm looking for the best overclock for the price (as with everyone else here :) ), and though the firestix look good and they seem to overclock like no other, that phrase "low binned" is really getting to me, lol. I'll spend a little more if I can get a better kit that guarantees higher clocks.

Also, would I receive a benefit in overclocks if I get 4 sticks of 512 over 2 sticks of 1gb?



I think you misunderstand "low bin"


high bin micron D9GMH does 600 4-4-4-5 2.45v

low low bin d9gmh is like 500 4-4-4-5 2.45v


The only thing that can beat out LOW LOW LOW bin micron is HIGH HIGH HIGH bin ProMos ATM.

I would take those firestix over ANY of the other rams you listed. All the other rams you listed (outside of the crucial ballisitix) are far worse. But why would you even consider a 512x2 kit anyway? Sort of a waste of money.

The only other set I would recommend is this - http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4354017

you have a decent shot of getting D9GMH, but it is also low bin.



Again, low bin D9GMH is going to be in the 150-180 dollar price range.


If you want some REALLY GOOD ram, buy this-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146563



Otherwise, you can hunt all you want, firestix, as others have said, are excellent sticks for the money. Best bang for the buck PERIOD.

Another ram I would recommend is Wintec ampx

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161063

This is D9GMH on Brainpower PCB, with a decent bin. The thing with low bin stuff is no two kits are the same. Like Kemo said about that mushkin stuff I got, I was lucky as all hell. One kit did 500 4-4-4-5 and the other did 540 4-4-4-5. These are sticks that didnt make higher end kits and flowed into lower end SKU's.

Nobody can give you an exact # you will hit, it comes down to luck.


To recap (again):

for best value, pick up the firestix

if you want a higher quality PCB, pick up the wintec ampx, great sticks.


I have had 3 sets of those firestix, i threw in a set right now to do a quick test for you.

4-4-4-5 w/ 2.45 on p5b dlx w/ tight subtimings, was able to superpi 1M @ 555MHz.

I would run this at 500MHz 4-4-4-5 w/ 2.35ish for 24/7 usage personally.

All overclocks vary, so take mine with what it "can" do, not what yours WILL do.

[Gunslinger]

Just get you some of this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145044

Best RAM period.

[irev210]

Just get you some of this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145044

Best RAM period.

There is no such thing as the "best" ram. There is lots of good high-end ram out there.

Wouldnt you say that the PC10000 is better than your ram?
TWIN2X2048-10000C5DF XMS2-10000 2048MB 5-5-5-18 2X240DIMM Yes EPP, SLI Certified




http://www.tankguys.biz/2x1gb-cell-shock-44412-1000mhz-p-1715.html?osCsid=78f33358880ba36a903357e1ebaa33fa

or

http://www.tankguys.biz/ddr2-55515-1200mhz-p-1716.html

or

http://shop.kingston.com/partsinfo.asp?ktcpartno=KHX9600D2K2/2G&bannersource=pricegrabber&promo=prcgrbr

or

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_9200_flexxlc_edition

or

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=361

or
Model Name : F2-8500PHU2-2GBHZ (1GB x 2)

Overview : PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066) 4-4-4-5 Dual Channel

or

http://www.geilusa.com/products/show/id/97

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146563

I am sure kemo or others can even add to the list.

You can not say any one memory is the best, too much luck involved, and most importantly, nobody wants to spend so much money. They just want a good D9GMH at a good price.

[StealthyFish]

This thread is hilarious.

The OP wants the best bang for buck overclockable RAM out there.

The Buffalo Firestix are that kit w/o question.

But somehow, he doesn't actually want the best bang for buck kit out there apparently, so he goes looking for more expensive crappier kits.

Why?!?

I swear i see this same kind of thread every few weeks.

Buffalo is using D9GMH.
It's not hand picked D9GMH, so it may not clock to to DDR2-1200 speeds.

Well ffs!

What can you expect from sub $200 RAM.

There is nothing out there that will consistently overclock as well as the Firestix in that price range.

End of story.

/pardon the rant, but some people just don't seem to get it, & i see this same question asked every week on various forums

Well, it's not your money you're spending, so you don't care. It's a whole lot easier to go around suggesting parts to people since if they got a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty clocking part, it wouldn't be your loss.

I don't want to end up being the first guy who got Elipda's from newegg... I'll pay a little more if it guarantees better IC's. What I mean by best price for performance also takes into consideration the chances of getting sticks which can actually clock, not just from the 10 guys who were lucky enough to get high clocking sticks....

If you do not have anything positive to contribute, please don't post it. I'm just asking a question and trying to determine which kits have a better probability of clocking higher. I stated that I would be willing to spend around 200 dollars. 230 was too much, but that HZ is 215. If the HZ will guarantee GMH's, then I'll be fine with it. But that chance that I'd end up with Elipda's with the firesticks is there, and I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.

I've RMA'd 3 hard drives, my motherboard, 2 power supplies, and 2 graphic cards in the past year and a half. I don't want to waste more of my time sending parts back and forth if I end up with something crappy or something doa.

[GSKILL TECH]

HZ guarantee is using Micron D9 chip (later batch are all xMx) maybe not super high high bin but we will not change IC like others
to me i think HK is the best for 24/7 low voltage.
it is not like MT needs a lot of votlage and produces high temp
specially, the HK chip is using the super high bin from chip verdor

[Dynasty]

I can run my Corsair 6400C3DF's 24/7 @ ddr 800 3-3-3-5-1T-7 (trc) with only
2.05V on 680i. I think thats pretty low voltage with decent timings for
continuous everyday usage...

[irev210]

I've RMA'd 3 hard drives, my motherboard, 2 power supplies, and 2 graphic cards in the past year and a half. I don't want to waste more of my time sending parts back and forth if I end up with something crappy or something doa.

heh i think you are goin a little crazy here. You asked us for advice, we gave it.

You had a guy give a response from buffalo saying that all stuff at newegg was confirmed d9gmh

Me along with various others confirmed on our own sticks that we got d9gmh

I even have a set in right now and did a max test for you to give you an idea of what this stuff can do.


I would go with the wintec ampx on brainpower PCB. It is under 200 bucks and is solid. Next best value is what the g.skill tech said, the HZ's for ~220



Best of luck to you... dont get so torn up about ram, its just ram... and we are just trying to help.

[kemo]

The only other set I would recommend is this - http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A4354017

you have a decent shot of getting D9GMH, but it is also low bin.


Old patches only are GMH :(

Just get you some of this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145044

Best RAM period.
seriously you consider spending 600$ for 24/7 usage and even if you are willing to spend that much for benching find yourself a contact and get a cheery picked sticks

@irev210 , the WINTEC with GMH 4-4-4-10 or 4-4-4-12 :confused:
because i remember 3 months ago there was two different kits DDR800 with one 50$ more expensive and we thought at this time that they might be GMH and that was the 4-4-4-10

[irev210]

Old patches only are GMH :(

seriously you consider spending 600$ for 24/7 usage and even if you are willing to spend that much for benching find yourself a contact and get a cheery picked sticks

@irev210 , the WINTEC with GMH 4-4-4-10 or 4-4-4-12 :confused:
because i remember 3 months ago there was two different kits DDR800 with one 50$ more expensive and we thought at this time that they might be GMH and that was the 4-4-4-10

Hey kemo,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161063
CAS4 is D9GMH! :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161030
CAS 5 is not D9GMH


I heard that patriot is using a mix on those sticks, even on new batches. I picked up a set... I will report back. At $150, it is hard to say no. Maybe I will get lucky like w/ the mushkin heheh.

[-n7-]

irev210, in the reviews for the Wintec you are suggesting, there's someone mentioning it's Elpida.

OP, i don't quite understand your frustration.

I have been following DDR2 since i got my first C2D last September, & while i don't personally test every RAM kit i recommend, i only recommend what i know to be excellent for overclocking.

I was one of the first people to start recommending Firestix on various forums, as i'd heard from someone else say they may be Micron, & then i emailed Buffalo themselves who confirmed it.

Countless others have confirmed this via email & purchase, & AFAIK, there was only kit instance of the Firestix being Elpida, & it was way back last year, & it wasn't purchased from newegg.
The Buffalo tech on these forums has stated he doesn't even know how it's possible it wasn't Micron, since from everything he knows, they only ship those kits w/ D9GMH.

Also, though i would assume you know this, overclocking is a lot of luck!
There is absolutely no guarantee that a kit will OC well, ever.

However, i'd like you to find me evidence of that kit not OCing well like you seem to be implying...

Another factor is what system you're coupling this RAM with?

Unless you're planning on nF 650/680i for running unlinked, you only need great OCing stuff for E6300s, or for running an E6600/E6400 4:5.

[StealthyFish]

irev210, in the reviews for the Wintec you are suggesting, there's someone mentioning it's Elpida.

OP, i don't quite understand your frustration.

I have been following DDR2 since i got my first C2D last September, & while i don't personally test every RAM kit i recommend, i only recommend what i know to be excellent for overclocking.

I was one of the first people to start recommending Firestix on various forums, as i'd heard from someone else say they may be Micron, & then i emailed Buffalo themselves who confirmed it.

Countless others have confirmed this via email & purchase, & AFAIK, there was only kit instance of the Firestix being Elpida, & it was way back last year, & it wasn't purchased from newegg.
The Buffalo tech on these forums has stated he doesn't even know how it's possible it wasn't Micron, since from everything he knows, they only ship those kits w/ D9GMH.

Also, though i would assume you know this, overclocking is a lot of luck!
There is absolutely no guarantee that a kit will OC well, ever.

However, i'd like you to find me evidence of that kit not OCing well like you seem to be implying...

Another factor is what system you're coupling this RAM with?

Unless you're planning on nF 650/680i for running unlinked, you only need great OCing stuff for E6300s, or for running an E6600/E6400 4:5.

Sorry for the frustration. I'm just going crazy looking through all these kits, trying to find what kind of IC's are in each and the chances I'd end up with those chips. (Trying to find the cheapest sticks with the greatest probability of D9's :( ). The system I'm using right now isn't going to use the high clocks and is going to bottleneck, but I'm slowly transitioning this system into something newer (maybe Penryn if it supports DDR2, or I'll just go to conroe later). The current system I'm using is in my sig (the main). I'm also kind of poor, so I really can't afford to purchase more sticks if I don't get a good kit the first time around :( lol.

It seemed like there were a lot of mixed overclocks on the Firesticks. A lot of difference, from something around 900 mhz - 1100. I guess I'm kind of noobish to hope for 1000 mhz clocks and think that 900 mhz is a little slow?

[-n7-]

I would expect DDR2-1000 5-5-5 at a worst case scenario.

Even just reading through the moronic user reviews on newegg, you'll see that anyone who actually is smart enough to know how to max out their overclock on RAM has achieved well over that.

[irev210]

stealthyfish, you have PM

I will sell you the ram in my PC now so you dont have to worry about getting lucky or not.

You have PM