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Treblig
06-26-2002, 02:48 PM
Ok , I have my Duron unlocked , L1 bridges connected with the pencil trick , and have been able to get my FSB up and bring the multiplier down . Now at 9x my multiplier works and it is stable however when I try to set the mutiplier to 9.5 to get some more it wont boot ! I have the BIOS set to 133/33 and the jumper on my board at 133 , dip switch mutiplier at 9x and V. at auto . Now what I'm wondering is do I need to unlock the L6 bridges or set them manualy to get CPU multiplier higher ? At 100 FSB the multiplier works all the way up to 12x so at either FSB settings I'm getting stuck at 1.2 gig CPU speeds ! Sisoft Sandra says CPU V. is @1.8 so I should have enough voltage but , just incase I tried to change it to 1.85v at the dip switch and it wouldn't boot either ? Board temp is 27.2c and CPU temp is at 45.4 @ load . Maybe it's maxed out but , maybe someone has some other tip that can help . Thanx in advance . Later .
Treblig welcome!
There are so many factors when trying to get an o/c completely stable. If my mind serves my right, you will have more luck overclocking with a higher multiplier then fsb with the Duron. (I might be wrong)
Another factor is the quality of your main components; mainly ram, chip stepping, power supply, and h/s fan. Always watch your temps when increasing the vcore. I've never been a big fan of Sandra for temps. Motherboard Monitor is better.
It really sounds like your temps maybe to high. What kind of h/s fan do you have? Do you use Artic Silver?
Treblig
06-26-2002, 07:29 PM
Arctic Alumina and a Dragon Orb 3 . If it helps any the BIOS health status has the same temps . As far as stability , it is stable at what my present specs are . I had it running at 200 FSB and multiplier at 12x and stable but , I had a much better performance increase from the FSB . That is why I asked what I asked ! I want to figure out how to get my CPU cranked up a little more . Anything above 9x @ a 266 FSB and it wont post . My RAM isn't brand name but, it has been tested and rated Cas2 . I'm not saying that that can't be the prob but , I don't think it is . I have a Raidmax 350 watt PS and there are 10 fans total between the case and components and stays very clean . Like I said I'm kinda wondering if the L6 bridges , set the default multiplier on the die , need to be altered or if the multiplier onboard should do the trick .
If you have the option to change the multiplier in the bios, don't bother connecting the bridges. (L1's should be connected) If anything, connect the L7's to increase the default vcore to 1.85. Before you do anything, see what your +5 rail is showing; because it seems you have a lot of stuff running off a 350.
Treblig
06-26-2002, 09:38 PM
Ok now , thats what I have been reading since I came here , what is this +5 rail and where is it ? Thanks for the chart . My multiplier is on my motherboard , dip switches from 5.5x to > 12x .
My BIOS settings are lame thats why I need to do as much with the CPU and motherboard as possible . LOL ... the only BIOS clock settings I have are as fallows ... Default , 100/33 , 120/30 and 133/33 . I have it at 133/33 , mult. 9x and jumper on board set at 133 . I have been thinking about running a couple fewer case fans . I live in a real hot place tho so I have been hesitant . Let me know what ya think . Thanx .
The 5+ volt reading will be in your bios. Make sure it reads above 4.80. Actually, 4.80 is kind of low. Anything over 5 should be fine.
I have my vcore set at 2.1 and mine barely stays above 4.80. :(
Treblig
06-26-2002, 10:26 PM
Ok , in BIOS Vcore 1.8 , +5 @ 5.0 . So do you think if I get the Vcore up It will allow the Multiplier to go above 9x ? If I try to set the Vcore dip switch on the board it wont post , so does that mean I need to do it on the die ? Good stuf , keep it comin ........ LOL ......
Treblig
06-27-2002, 02:48 PM
Don't forget about me plzzzzzzz ... LOL . Heres something that kind of describes what I'm talking about .
Treblig
06-27-2002, 02:50 PM
http://www.a1-electronics.co.uk/AMD_Section/CPUs/AMD_OclockMulti.shtml
Doh forgot to add it .
I think all Duron's are rated at 200FSB. If there is a dip switch on your mobo for changing the multiplier, then don’t worry about the L6 bridges. Your Duron must be 10 X 100 default; so I would think 133 would be a decent overclock. Maybe try 8.5 X 133, then 9 X 133! You must have good ram to pull anything over 133!
Treblig
06-27-2002, 04:57 PM
OK , I'm not trying to be rude but , your kinda not paying attention to my specs or what I have said ! My multiplier is at 9x ! The problem is , if I try to go to 9.5 or higher it wont post . I am pleased with the results I have , I am just trying to get a little more out of the CPU speed . K , so maybe the RAM is the prob . I'll look into it and yes I thought that I wouldn't need to mess w/the multiplier on the die either . Just looking for anything to get my multiplier up higher . I have ran it at 12 times but , with the FSB at 100 (100x2=200) and either way I'm maxing at 1200mhz . Laterzzz .
Since you don't have any other features in the bios such as CPU FSB+ or a setting that will let you set your fsb to 100-200. You are very limited. There might be a program out there that will add FSB to your current 133! (or 120) If worst comes to worst you might want to look for a different motherboard with better overclocking options.
Go here and download cpufsb.zip, and see if you can try different settings other than 100/33, 120/30, 133/33. Try 9 X 134, than 9 X 135, ect.... Bumping your vcore when system becomes unstable.
http://www.aoaforums.com/files/index.php?dir=173
Treblig
06-27-2002, 06:31 PM
Cool thanx . I'll sheck it out .
slavearm
06-27-2002, 07:09 PM
Might want to check that voltage while your computer is working. I would use motherboard monitor or something like that while you run prime 95 or something. The bios screen is pretty much so without the CPU pulling much juice so you just don't know.
Micutzu
06-28-2002, 02:14 AM
The Durons are not so great FSB overclockers , though I've heard of some running @ FSB333 . You might have a problem with the unlocking , maybe the .5 multipliers don't work , try a run @ 9.5x100 , and see if it boots up . I don't think the CPU maxed out , because if @ 1200Mhz runs stable , it must boot at least @ 1250-1275 . Mine boots up at 1420 ... Also some stepping info on that CPU could help .
Treblig
06-28-2002, 12:02 PM
Yeah it wont boot at 9.5 . I would need to get the info off the CPU for the stepping info right ? BIOS and Sandra say vcore is at 1.8 but , if i try to get it higher with the dip switches it wont boot either . Now do you think if i set FSB back down to 200 that I would get some good performance by setting the CPU multipliers @ 13x or just leave the FSB and try to get a little more CPU speed . I do think that I have much better performance with 266 FSB than just the CPU OC'd . Thanx for replying Micutzu .
Micutzu
06-29-2002, 02:10 AM
Redo the unlocking of the CPU , so the 9.5 works . Or tey to boot @ 10x133 , see if it works . Can ur mobo pump more voltage in the CPU ? It could use some more ...
Treblig
06-29-2002, 07:25 AM
OK , thanx I'll try to unlock it again . It's go to be something simple like that too . Later .
KnightElite
06-30-2002, 07:57 PM
Bad unlocks cause all the .5 multipliers not to work. I believe it is the middle L1 bridge that does that. Damn, that must suck OCing with dip switches, and such limited FSB settings.
Note to self: Do not ever get DFI motherboard ;).
Treblig
07-01-2002, 02:59 PM
OK unlocked it agian and 9.5 will boot , post and then a screen with basic BIOS info comes up similar to the one that sysfailure has posted in this forum here ......... http://209.213.203.64/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1446
Only difference is that there is no disk failure report , just a blinking cursor that you can do anything with after Primary drive . I brought my FSB down to 120/30 and it booted at 10x but , it just gives me a FSB of 240 and still 1200mhz . Just can't get above that 1200mhz mark . Raised vcore to 1.85 and still no go so .... still stumped . Thanx for all the suggestions so far . Good stuff .
Micutzu
07-01-2002, 03:05 PM
It seems that's the limit ... Now you can up the FSB some more and lower the multiplier . See if 8x150 runs stable .
Treblig
07-01-2002, 03:13 PM
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh , I can't ! My BIOS sucks and 133 is it . Bummer big time . I have thought about flashing a new BIOS to see if they upgraded it but , there are conflicting BIOS at the site . So I have been leary . I'll have to toss a coin and see if it's worth flashing . Thanx .