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Method Man
05-17-2003, 11:21 PM
Well I guess I will start..here is my baby :D

gtcrispy
05-18-2003, 06:44 PM
lol i would post mine but its umm... in my garage in a box. Haven't set it up since my mobo got fried. Just too lazy. ALot of money just sitting there :(

Pimpsho
05-21-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by gtcrispy
lol i would post mine but its umm... in my garage in a box. Haven't set it up since my mobo got fried. Just too lazy. ALot of money just sitting there :(
damn thats to bad it fried but i would take the 462 off your hands if u dont need it:D

Marci
05-22-2003, 03:05 PM
www.over-clock.co.uk/marci/

All the galleries are there and I think it's already in about 20 similar threads on this forum somewhere.... buried in the depths of time!

mdzcpa
05-22-2003, 04:08 PM
100% self-contained and completely turn key. It's a bit heavy, but totally portable and has gone to many a LAN party.

Modded Swiftech Quiet Power (H202-B Kit with high rpm fans)
226w CPU TEC, 80w GPU TEC
MCW462-UT; MCW50-T
Meanwell S320
Rheobus to control noise and performance level
Pump and TEC PSU relays
Temp and flow rate auto shutdowns

Although cooling is great, it's not extreme. But it has a serious attention to detail and a turn key OEM feel.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mdzcpa/images/QP1.jpg



http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mdzcpa/images/IC7incase.JPG

gtcrispy
05-22-2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Pimpsho
damn thats to bad it fried but i would take the 462 off your hands if u dont need it:D

Thanks for the offer. Might have to think about it. Having some more money would be nice. I've kind of stopped buying computer stuff and moved onto guns lol. Tomorrow i'm 18 and i'm gonna order a Bushmaster Ar-15 M4.

I'll probably wait till summer to hook it all back up. At the moment my mobo is dead yet again.... Mom managed to knock my 17in trintron off the top of my case and onto my mobo that was on my floor. Cracked montior though it works and one busted 8RDA. :(

Peckers
05-23-2003, 10:18 AM
Some pics of my rig:

link (http://130.236.239.34/index.htm)

Ocbench
05-30-2003, 12:15 PM
Ilúvatar..

What kinda temp´s are you getting with your 226watt pelt on the AMD? Both IDLE and Full load....

Peckers
05-31-2003, 11:37 AM
Ocbench*

Right now with 23C in the room and 1.85V:
Idle:~ core=6 diode=10
Load:~ core=14 diode=12

I only booted at 1.5V once running at 13.5*133 and for maybe 15 minutes and I remember the core temp showed -11 "idle"

Major
06-01-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by gtcrispy
Tomorrow i'm 18 and i'm gonna order a Bushmaster Ar-15 M4.

Mom managed to knock my 17in trintron off the top of my case and onto my mobo that was on my floor. Cracked montior though it works and one busted 8RDA. :(

Ok slow down gtcrispy !!!! maybe you need to talk this over with your local police department, your mom loves you and you don't want to do anyting you'll regret later !!! It was just you mb and monitor not the end of the world you know. ;)

I get my MCW5000-pt next week along with a meanwell 320, so I'll let you guys know what I can do with it. I hope I have simular results as mdzcpa, I would love to be able to hit 4g with my 3.0c !

gtcrispy
06-01-2003, 09:23 PM
LOL no worries. Its only for non-human targets. Good luck with the new heatsink. I just lost the desire. Now if I had more money I would see no problem having both hobbies :)

Colin
06-06-2003, 08:48 AM
http://www.pcstats.com/articleimages/Colin/Test_Rig/Test_system.jpg

I guess better late then never. :)

Not the prettiest but it works ok... I need to get myself a better/2nd radiator though.

zippyc
06-15-2003, 09:13 AM
1x226W, 1x 170W, 1x80W, another 226W on its way...cold loop powered by Iwaki IW-30, Cathar's whitewater block on CPU. Cold loop for GPU and CPU.

Ambient air-cooled water loop for NB and 9700's memory.

Cold loop gets to 8C, 20C under heavy gaming (I found Gore is more of a load than looping madonion).

The silver Dell case houses the pump and pelts.

Second radiator box with two more raddies on it's way too...

zippyc
06-15-2003, 09:18 AM
I ran my hoses and power cords thorugh my wall and into the guest room to keep heat out of my office.

This is the picture of the "Arse End" of my system. No guest shall ever get cold..... ;-)

Pimpsho
06-17-2003, 06:53 PM
those setups area so tight im gettin a meanwell 320 and a 462uht and i have 2 rads a procore and bixrev2 and a L30 and my custom case (http://home.attbi.com/~c.brander/specs.jpg) that is in the buildin stage....what kinda temps should i expect?

zippyc
06-17-2003, 07:55 PM
IMHO your temps will depend upon how well you cool your water loop, and of course what processor and what voltages you use.

I have seen people claim 12C under load with that block, and that was in a cool environment with similar flow (20C ambient, 2 big heater cores with 100+cfm over them).

The real answer is "I dunno". It should work well for you as long as you are not adding a GPU TEC. If you do you might need more radiating space.

And my setup is different because I don't trust TEC's so I run a cold loop/hot loop setup which is a bit different from direct pelting.

In direct pelting you run a bigger risk of catasrophic CPU or GPU heat in event of a pelt failure, where a dual loop system adds some redundancies. (Although such failures are rare).

Pimpsho
06-18-2003, 03:24 PM
got ne pics of your setup?

mdzcpa
06-19-2003, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by zippyc
In direct pelting you run a bigger risk of catasrophic CPU or GPU heat in event of a pelt failure

Did someone say "catastrophic" failure?
http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/forumpics/badtec/burn1.jpg

http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/forumpics/badtec/burn2.jpg

zippyc
06-19-2003, 11:38 AM
mdzcpa,

That's the kind of failure that gives me nightmares! My sympathies to you and yours.

Pimpso, the pics I posted above show my converted dell chassis/pump house that contains the pelt sandwich, an Iwaki IW-30 Pump, and an antec PS-510. (Silver,lower right, with the lan-li aluminum dual temp monitor.)

Inside I have insulated the cold hoses with rudimentary insulation (a couple layers of paper towels surrounded by aluminum foil, in fact, knowing I'm tearing the system apart in the next week to add blocks and another pelt. I’ll do a proper job of it next week.).

The pelt sandwich is tucked away in the space normally occupied by 5.25" drives, so there is not much to show there.

The sandwich is insulated everywhere it touches air with neoprene (Dr. Shoals around the pelts, old wetsuit for the rest), and then wrapped in duct tape for good measure.

So I figure I'll diagram it for you here for illustrative purposes (sorry 'bout the crappy out of scale drawing), and then I'll post a pic of most of the parts I used before they all got hidden away:

The three smaller pumps are the Maxijet 1200 (295GPH). The radiators are 10.5x 5.5 x 2 heater cores with dual 76CFM fans sucking/blowing in parallel through both cores, 2 per box, for a total of four.

The big pump is for the cold loop and is the Iwaki mag drive capable of ~500 GPH with 17.1 Feet of head. Flow is split into two at the computer to run by the Whitewater CPU Clock for the CPU, and the Gemini Spral block for the GPU.

A seperate ambient air-cooled loop (not shown!) is running by my Northbridge and by my R9700's memory for water cooling there without condensation worries, and to apply the cold where I see benefits from better temps.

zippyc
06-19-2003, 11:46 AM
I did not illustrate the pelts, which are in between each of the three blocks, cold sides applied to the center block on each side.

And here are the guts and blocks.

mdzcpa
06-19-2003, 12:20 PM
Good info there zippyc.

For the most part TEC failures are very rare indeed. My "accident" was caused from my own stupidity. I passed on having the TEC PSU relayed (even though I had a relay just sitting in my desk drawer). So, when the temp spiked beyond what I had ever expected it to hit one night while I was sleeping, the system shutdown....but not the TEC:) I awoke to a wonderful smell.

Anyway, that kind of disaster really is easily avoided. You can either set up the system like you have, or just make sure you have judicious use of relays and temp monitoring. My pump and TEC PSU are now run through relays, so everything is either on, or off, together. Turning on the system is a one button affair. That in conjunction with good MBM alarm and shutdown, and the use of back up BIOS shutdowns, has the system 100% bullet proof. She's been trouble free running 24/7 for nine months now.

Too bad I had to learn the hard way. That XP 2200 and KX7 were no more than a few days old at the time:( Oh well...live and learn:)

Pimpsho
06-19-2003, 01:49 PM
how wouldi go about doing that with my setup how do u have the relays? i would like to do the same so i dont "live and learn" ;)

mdzcpa
06-19-2003, 02:12 PM
The relays are powered by the regular system ATX power supply. When the PSU is powered on (system booted) the relay circuit is "closed" and powers up whatever you have connected through the relay.

I run a relay on my TEC PSU, and my water pump.

You can see how I hooked them up in my Quiet Power TEC Upgrade Article (http://www.liquidninjas.net/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=20&page=4) .

cygnus_x_1
06-20-2003, 10:16 PM
finally got some pics of my rig online...just been too lazy/busy...

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/pelt_088.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/pelt_082.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/pelt_073.jpg

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dannyyyz/case_mod/pelt%20067.jpg

nf7-s v2, barton 2500, gffx 5800 ultra, 2x256 twinmos 3700, seagate sata 120

pelts: swiffy mcw462+ uht & mcw50-t, bix2, hydor l30
h2o: z-chip, bix pro, hydor l20

fully turn key, and portable, buts its damn heavy...:rolleyes:

Colin
06-21-2003, 06:48 AM
cygnus_x_1! Nice setup! :D

Pimpsho
06-21-2003, 11:26 AM
damn! what kinda temps u gettin with that? im gettin 20c at 2.62 with 1.85v
http://home.attbi.com/~c.brander/P6200097.JPG

zippyc
06-21-2003, 01:45 PM
What is the temp of your water after the pump before the tec at that 20c CPU reading?

Pimpsho
06-21-2003, 02:44 PM
well right now im at -6c!!!!

Pimpsho
06-21-2003, 02:44 PM
http://home.attbi.com/~c.brander/rawr.jpg

zippyc
06-21-2003, 03:23 PM
You were at 20C, now -6 (congrads pimpman!). :-) What did you change to get the better temp, or is that at startup?

Do you still get up to 20C under load?

And do you know what your water temp is as it hits the hot side of the pelt under full load?

Also, your running the 8rda? Does your CPU temp diplay on your digital readout on the MB?

Thanks!

Zippyc

Pimpsho
06-21-2003, 07:10 PM
well i upgraded the cooling a lil bit and slapped in a chiller AKA §§§§ load of ice! basically 0cwater hittin the hot side of the tec! i hit -10 with stock settins i was at like 2c at full load at 2.8

zippyc
06-21-2003, 08:00 PM
That explains it. Too bad we can't always use ice, but you can use it to get stable for you high-frequency mad onion runs.

I'm liking chong345s freezer/pelt combo better and better, but I can't afford the bigger house with enough extra space in it to make the wife say "OK". Maybe I'll hit the lotto...

I saw a posting where a dude was getting 17C wtih a single radiator and that 462 Swifty/pelt combo. I think he was in NY, and it is 55F there now...

It is here for you to compare temps to...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14877

cygnus_x_1
06-21-2003, 08:57 PM
thx col...when you gonna give that thing a 'home'???? lol

pimp, if you were asking me on temps, stock temps are -4c idle and 2c load on the cpu, and 0c idle/11c load on the gpu. overclocked to 2600mhz w/ 2v on the cpu its 15c/25c and the gpu @ 610 core 12/26c.

i need to cool the mem on the 5800 U better as it runs damn hot with just the tweak sinks on there... or just put the 9700 pro back in, but i have to rig up the probe to take core temps for that...

Pimpsho
06-21-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by cygnus_x_1
thx col...when you gonna give that thing a 'home'???? lol

pimp, if you were asking me on temps, stock temps are -4c idle and 2c load on the cpu, and 0c idle/11c load on the gpu. overclocked to 2600mhz w/ 2v on the cpu its 15c/25c and the gpu @ 610 core 12/26c.

i need to cool the mem on the 5800 U better as it runs damn hot with just the tweak sinks on there... or just put the 9700 pro back in, but i have to rig up the probe to take core temps for that...
how do u have such good temps is that chilled water?

cygnus_x_1
06-21-2003, 09:24 PM
not chilled yet...still trying to decide which way im gonna chill the h20. i was really trying to have it semi-portable, but i do want to chill the water since it heats up pretty good...

i am betting its my ambient temps...even tho im in jersey, it hasnt gotten to hot yet, but im sure as the ambient temps go up, so will my system temps...

Pimpsho
06-22-2003, 09:58 AM
whats the ambient temps then? like 10c jesus:D

]JR[
06-23-2003, 02:14 AM
Not got any pics of my setups, but i do have a home made direct hotside cooling block i made a fair few months back. Its a 172watt tec and some copper, it averaged 9degrees unloaded cpu temps with ambient water @ 1.9v on a 2500mhz tbred 'b'

Its got insulation on it now ill post some more pics once i get setup in my new house.... Its going to relegated to gpu once my direct die phase change is setup...

http://www.phjrw.34sp.com/direct1.jpg
http://www.phjrw.34sp.com/direct2.jpg
http://www.phjrw.34sp.com/direct3.jpg

]JR[

gtcrispy
07-05-2003, 05:24 PM
Got rid of TEC setup. Got this :)

http://mywebstuff.hypermart.net/kevpic/rram4_2.jpg

Method Man
07-06-2003, 05:22 PM
Where did you get your hands on that?!?!

ellsworth
07-06-2003, 08:39 PM
wow gtcrispy that is gorgeous

gtcrispy
07-07-2003, 08:53 AM
Bought the upper reciever on the internet the lower reciever locally. Anyone can buy the upper. The lower you must be 18 and go through a background check at the gun dealer to actually purchase it. Method because you live in CA you can't OWN one :)

ellsworth
07-07-2003, 08:46 PM
haha in texas you can own any kind of gun it seems. i know many people with extensive gun collections. its a little scary sometimes when someone shows you their collection, you hope that they are all together mentally becasue you are standing in a pile of THEIR guns. i am always nice to people with guns like that. i have 3 guns, an over-under 12 gauge, a pump 12gauge, and a semi auto 22 cal rifle. i would like to look into a pistol someday, maybe a glock 20 or a .357 magnum.

Method Man
07-07-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by gtcrispy
Bought the upper reciever on the internet the lower reciever locally. Anyone can buy the upper. The lower you must be 18 and go through a background check at the gun dealer to actually purchase it. Method because you live in CA you can't OWN one :)

I can own one just not legaly :D I have a mexican friend that has m16's, ak47's and so on :toast:

ellsworth you shuld look into a Desert Eagle 50AE awsome handgun
:owned:

Pimpsho
07-08-2003, 04:00 PM
ak-47 are not illegal in us....if there not automatic....but thats fixed easily...

Weapon
07-11-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Method Man
Where did you get your hands on that?!?!

probably the same place that I got these:
http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=227917

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=249003

:D


ak-47 are not illegal in us....if there not automatic....but thats fixed easily...

if you are in the right state and you have the right permits, the full auto version is perfectly legal -- as are silenced or suppressed weapons. I have been looking at the mp5s lately... I need one of those in the collection and soon. :slobber:

the $10,000 price tag stings a bit though:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976348072.htm

gtcrispy
07-15-2003, 06:02 PM
Yea if you want full-auto you need to go through a bunch of paper work. Pay the $200 tax stamp. Buy the gun. Wait months just so you can go pick up your Class 3 Firearm. Once its all done..thats when the fun starts :)