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3oh6
01-13-2007, 01:19 AM
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Hey kids, I am back with another quick look at some impressive modules, this time from San Jose based, Super Talent Technology. Super Talent has been in the memory game for 20 years and are proud to identify their US based manufacturing facility as one of the biggest and most advanced on American soil. Super Talent may not be the most mainstream memory manufacturer but their enthusiast lines of late have really been turning heads. Of course they also provide end users with standard server, home, and mobile memory as well as flash memory...like most memory manufacturers do at this point in time.

Yes, this is the same kit that the one and only bachus_anonym reviewed here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115569).

Unlike my last two OCing reports, these modules were supplied as a review sample and not purchased from a retail outlet. I have no reason to believe any "cherry picking" has gone on. Here are a list of the specs:

* Part #T1000UX2G4
* 2GB kit (2x 128Mx64)
* DDR2-1000 4-5-4-15 @ 2.2v
* 2x 240-pin DDR2 DIMMs
* Non-ECC, Unbuffered
* Chip Architecture: 2x 16 chips, 64Mx8
* Cast aluminum high-efficiency (HE) heatspreader
* SPD: DDR2-800, 5-5-5-15 latencies
* Made in USA
* Super Talent Lifetime Warranty

Introductions and pleasentries aside, let's have a look at these modules with their fancy heatspreaders.


Package:
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The Super Talent modules come as a dual-channel tested pair in the clear plastic blister pack seen in the first photo. There isn't anything exciting or different as far as the apckaging goes. It is just a molded plastic blister package that has become the standard in apckaging for many memory manufacturers like OCZ, Corsair, Buffalo, and more. There is certainly no mistaking that these modules are Super Talent with those blue heatspreaders, here are some more photos of the sticks.


Contents:
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The heatspreaders are cured on these modules and I don't feel like killing them just to see what I already know...they are D9GMH or D9GKX. I don't think I have to mention it, but these heatspreaders are something else. The pictures help, but I don't think they fully convey just how nice they look. Sure heatspreaders don't really do much as well all know but you definitely recognize these sticks as Super Talent when you see them ;).



Intel Setup:
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Starting on the left we see an image of the modules installed in the split DIMM slots on my P5B-Dlx with the DDR Maximizer PCB in-between. The heaspreaders are standard size and obviously don't effect how these modules fit in a motherboard. The next photo is how the 120mm fan is positioned over the modules and the last photo is a full view of the test platform.


AMD Setup:
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The AM2 setup is very similar with split DIMM slots used on the SLI-M2R/G next to the socket. I of course have a fan cooling the modules in this system as well and another 120mm fan does the job which is mounted on the ghetto-rigged waterblock mounting bolts. I have also provided a full view of the AM2 rig when the modules were running. Here is a complete breakdown of the hardware used on each platform:


AMD Setup: Intel Setup:
MB: DFI LanParty NF590 SLI-M2R/G MB: Asus P5B-Dlx Wifi
CPU: AMD64 X2 4000+ (CCBYF 0620UPMW) CPU: Intel C2D E6300 (L630A864)
CPU Cooling: Asetek WaterChill CPU Cooling: Chilly1 SS
PSU: SilverStone Element 500W NB Cooling: Noctua NC-U6
HD: Seagate SATAII 80GB 8MB NCQ PSU: Silverstone Zeus 560W
OS: Windows XP Pro HD: Seagate SATAII 80GB 8MB NCQ
OS: Windows XP Pro
EXTRA: Hipro-Tech.com DDR Maximizer
Ambient Temperature: 22-23C


As always, there are a couple disclaimers that one has to be aware of with these results.
A - SmartGuardian reports VDIMM 0.11v lower than it actually is
B - What you see is what you get. I am only claiming dual32M stability and that is what I show in the screenshots. Please don't say "that isn't a stability test" or remark that I should be running something else for stability. Dual 32M is a great starting point for finding memory overclock stability and is all I intend on showing in this overclocking report.

I think that about covers everything, so without further delay, let's see what these bright blue monsters can do.


3-4-3-8:
Intel:
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DDR750 :: 2.00v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-1.png) | DDR790 :: 2.10v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-2.png) | DDR830 :: 2.20v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-3.png) | DDR870 :: 2.30v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-4.png) | DDR890 :: 2.40v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-5.png) | DDR920 :: 2.50v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-6.png) | DDR940 :: 2.60v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/343x-7.png)

I did my Intel testing at 3-4-3-8 as opposed to 3-3-3-8 because the P5B-Dlx, perhaps all 965 boards, don't show any performance advantage to a tRCD of 3 and actually take a performance hit at tRCD 3. I did do some quick checking, for what it's worth, and 3-3-3-8 stability was about 5MHz~10MHz less at the voltage stages that I tested.


3-3-3-8:
AMD:
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DDR740 :: 2.00v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-8.png) | DDR780 :: 2.10v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-9.png) | DDR830 :: 2.20v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-10.png) | DDR850 :: 2.29v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-11.png) | DDR890 :: 2.39v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-12.png) | DDR920 :: 2.50v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-13.png) | DDR940 :: 2.60v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/333x-14.png)


4-4-4-8:
Intel:
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DDR960 :: 2.00v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-1.png) | DDR1020 :: 2.10v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-2.png) | DDR1060 :: 2.20v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-3.png) | DDR1100 :: 2.30v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-4.png) | DDR1140 :: 2.40v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-5.png) | DDR1180 :: 2.50v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-6.png) | DDR1200 :: 2.60v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-7.png)

AMD:
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DDR964 :: 2.00v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-8.png) | DDR1016 :: 2.10v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-9.png) | DDR1066 :: 2.20v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-10.png) | DDR1100 :: 2.29v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-11.png) | DDR1140 :: 2.39v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-12.png) | DDR1190 :: 2.50v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-13.png) | DDR1210 :: 2.60v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/444x-14.png)


5-5-5-8:
Intel:
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DDR1160 :: 2.00v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-1.png) | DDR1170 :: 2.10v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-2.png) | DDR1190 :: 2.20v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-3.png) | DDR1200 :: 2.30v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-4.png) | DDR1210 :: 2.40v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-5.png)

I was going to blame the DDR1200 wall for the AMD OCing on the MB/CPU but it looks like it might just be this memory. 3-4-3 and 4-4-4 absolutely screemed on the P5B-Dlx with these Super Talent sticks but 5-5-5 fizzled out relatively quickly around the DDR1200 mark. Very little gains were had from more voltage and DDR1210 was the absolute wall regardless of voltage. It isn't the motherboard either, this P5B-Dlx has had other memory Prime stable at DDR1280 so the memory is definitely done at this point.

AMD:
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DDR1140 :: 2.00v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-8.png) | DDR1180 :: 2.10v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-9.png) | DDR1200 :: 2.20v (http://3oh6.com/forum_posted/reviews/memory/supertalent8000c4/555x-10.png)

I am pretty sick of having to mention at the end of my AM2 CL5 testing that the motherboard/memory are the limiting factor in clocks so I am all but ready to dump this bloody setup and replace it. It turns out this memory just seems to wall at DDR1200 so the motherboard isn't to blame this time but I still am getting fed up with it. I am not sure how useful AM2 users find my OCing reports but this CPU and MB have been really agitating me lately and I don't think I can stand it anymore...I am bald enough as it is, I don't need to be pulling my hair out everytime I clock a set of memory on this setup.

As always, feel free to post comments, questions, or concerns in the thread and I will do my best to help out.

alexio
01-13-2007, 01:34 AM
Very nice and complete review. My suggestion is to try 5-4-4-*. It often overclocks about as high (sometimes higher!) as 5-5-5-* and offers better performance. Yes, D9 sometimes really does better at 5-4-4-*.

Thanks for the nice review ;)

DAK1640
01-13-2007, 03:41 AM
I own this Ram & love it...

JoeBar
01-13-2007, 03:28 PM
Nice mem! I really love my SuperTalents PC6400 cas5. They're very early kit and utilizing D9GKX... :)
Without DDR Maximizer i need 2.35v for 1060mhz 4-4-4-8.

before
01-18-2007, 12:12 AM
Very nice review! :)

3oh6
01-19-2007, 12:25 PM
thanx guys and yes, these sticks are pretty impressive...i certainly won't be complaining with DDR1200 4-4-4-8 2.6v dual 32M SPi stable.

470MHz 3-4-3-8 will also come in handy for my E6600 SPi runs at the 460*9 range on the tighter divider if the NB can handle it.

i should be receiving a 680i motherboard early next week and will be trying to update my overclocking reports with some 680i resutls as well so look for that potentially in a few weels.