2.6v = Highest Rated volt ? Geil PC2-9600es first review

[VictorWang]

I recieved a small pack...seems a New Year Gift from Geil :D
when I open it... damn.......Geil PC2-9600 1G*2 :slobber:
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1168063229_0.jpg
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1168063229_1.jpg
Still under test, not officially issued, so "ES" on the mark :p:

how's the performance ?
bellow are the test on a un-moded P5B-Deluxe.
bios set = 2.45v, read from meter=2.43v.

1200 4-4-4-x pi_32m @ 3.6Ghz = 13min01sec, fast ? :D
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1168063424_0.jpg


more stability test ? dual_pi_32m & sp2004 ? ;)
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1168063424_1.jpg



to mush work to do at the moment, will post more results in these days :)

[Blknoel]

Heh who could be happier?

Wait, it means if you got one of these kits, then you are in the 600Mhz club without even trying? ^^

That's unfair >=P

[VictorWang]

Heh who could be happier?

Wait, it means if you got one of these kits, then you are in the 600Mhz club without even trying? ^^

That's unfair >=P

lol.......600mhz club is not hard for those rams about 300usd+ .
differences are the timings, volts and stability :)

[3oh6]

lol.......600mhz club is not hard for those rams about 300usd+ .
differences are the timings, volts and stability :)
very true Victor, 600MHz club at "CL4 2.45v prime stable" is a very exclusive club ;)

awesome sticks my friend, Geil just doesn't know when to stop, 2.6v on a sticker is just insane :D

[alexio]

Amazing really. I hope they can launch the product :)

[VictorWang]

very true Victor, 600MHz club at "CL4 2.45v prime stable" is a very exclusive club ;)

awesome sticks my friend, Geil just doesn't know when to stop, 2.6v on a sticker is just insane :D

Geil really crazy these days, but franckly speaking, I personally expecting Geil's EVO to come out more than this 9600 :D

[kiwi]

Did you use fan?

[VictorWang]

Did you use fan?

:eek: who dare use 2.45v 1100mhz+ without a fan :eek:

ambient=15c, fan=8cm 2000rpm

[kemo]

PC9600C4 out of the box
I wonder for how long that kit will survive under 24/7 use with no fan

By the way Victor any R600ES we are waiting for you

[kiwi]

:eek: who dare use 2.45v 1100mhz+ without a fan :eek:

ambient=15c, fan=8cm 2000rpm

I asked because they don't mention about using fan on their website. That's for their current highest rated kit PC8500 2.4~2.5V

Imagine what will happen if you don't use fan at 2.5V and how long they will survive. Besides this kit does not have any special heatspreaders like Dominator, for instance

[Okda]

PC9600C4 out of the box
I wonder for how long that kit will survive under 24/7 use with no fan

By the way Victor any R600ES we are waiting for you


the same here

does Geil give Lifetime warranty ?

[Blknoel]

Probably the highest binned stuff from manufactures out there at the moment.

I know default volt is 1.8v, but what if these have binned at higher volts? Don't you think if they were created that way, they may as well adapt to more juice?

Unless under the hood is not GKX and something else, which generates less heat? But what's the chance hehe?

[boblemagnifique]

Great D9GCT :)

[VictorWang]

for ram cooling, I think if volt>2.2v, ramclk>1000mhz, must have a ram_cooling_fan.
since it's an ES product, I think geil would include special ram cooling device for the Retail product like corsair8888c4 and Team-9600. :D

[Yoxxy]

The 9260 does not even work so I Can only guess how this will work :(.

[kemo]

the same here

does Geil give Lifetime warranty ?
Yes they give life time warrantee but inside Europe only 15 years (max allowed there)

[Blknoel]

"only 15 years you said"? =D

By then consumers might have already moved on to 64 core CPU on 1nm process already, hell knows what Ram it will use at that stage >_>

Back to topic: Victor, any chance of loosening timings and attempting DDR1400 ?

[filmbot]

Victor, any link to where to reseller in US? Also, great sticks thus far, keep on pushing them and try to get 1300 :toast:

[EnJoY]

So, these are rated at 1200MHz 2.65v? If so, what exactly makes these better than brands like OCZ, KHX, and Team who have released sticks with these speeds at 2.45v? And seriously, do they really think 2.65v is going to allow their sticks to last much longer than a month tops?

[kemo]

So, these are rated at 1200MHz 2.65v? If so, what exactly makes these better than brands like OCZ, KHX, and Team who have released sticks with these speeds at 2.45v? And seriously, do they really think 2.65v is going to allow their sticks to last much longer than a month tops?

Still an ES it might die in testing or they cancel the project
Right know no body reported (or announced) DDR1200C4 only Kingston says 1200C5
Any way CellShock or team GKX + 8 layers PCB better than any ram in the market (team not released yet)

[jmax_oc]

Any way CellShock or team GKX + 8 layers PCB better than any ram in the market (team not released yet)
So I wonder why noone on these may enter the 700MHz Club...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=123294

World records belongs to Crucial PC8000 EPP and Geil PC8500

[boblemagnifique]

Victor, any link to where to reseller in US? Also, great sticks thus far, keep on pushing them and try to get 1300 :toast:

its Sample ES from Geil

A kit pc9280 avaibility a few week ;)

[jmax_oc]

The 9280kit may not exist since thereisn't place on Geil package (8500 and 9600 but no 9280)

[syne_24]

The 9280kit may not exist since thereisn't place on Geil package (8500 and 9600 but no 9280)

that's true they had to make a sticker and put it on the back, probably was just a limited supply

[The Stilt]

If those are still Micron rev. D B6 IC´s GEIL really has a death wish.

[kemo]

So I wonder why noone on these may enter the 700MHz Club...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=123294

World records belongs to Crucial PC8000 EPP and Geil PC8500
Oh really
any of those will provide better OC for 24/7 + you haven't seen that team memory yet and you haven't tested CellShock before

[jmax_oc]

Oh really
any of those will provide better OC for 24/7 + you haven't seen that team memory yet and you haven't tested CellShock before
Don't be afraid for me :D. I just wonder why Team and their wonderful memories don't manage to reach 700MHz :fact: .
Cellshock don't impress me since their performance are very fluent in PC8000 CAS4 series :D

[Walkerak]

Nice.........

[clon22]

wow!...
Fastzz.....

[VictorWang]

to Jmax_oc,

I don't know why u always mention " WR " here.
anyone want's to use 512m*2 or 1g*1 these days ?
or...use LN2 or some super_cold air/water cooling ur ram?
we are talking about new products review but not xtreme overclk here, ok ?
I don't think 700mhz with bad bad timings are faster than 650mhz 4-3-3-x/4-4-4-x.
But I like to see lower volt. stable at ddr2-1200.

for this pair of Geil 9600es 1G*2
I need only 2.7v to reach 1300 4-3-3-8 1m on nv680i.
2.15v 1200 5-5-5-x pi_32m on P5B-Deluxe
isn't that good ?

for Overclking, do we need a 700mhz 3.2v ram to achieve spi/3dmark WR ?
of course not.
but to run faster, 500mhz 3-3-3-x, 600mhz 4-4-4-x is what we concern, right ?

mean no offence, ur 700mhz+ records are impressive.
I started this thread as a Pre-Review but not a XS ram overclking.
sorry.

[kemo]

Don't be afraid for me :D. I just wonder why Team and their wonderful memories don't manage to reach 700MHz :fact: .
Cellshock don't impress me since their performance are very fluent in PC8000 CAS4 series :D

Hey Jmax we all know that you are a MHZ guy more that a high score guy and that is pretty obvious with your only 2X1GB run that clearly shows relaxed timings and even relaxed sub timings could be there but we can’t see to judge on the other hand other people 24/7 or benchers prefer the best possible performance and that come with C4 and C3 +you are the only one who uses very high RAS to Cas and Ras precharge

Basically you know that your limit is the chipset and that got nothing to do with the brand of ram so I bet that any GMH flashed with those Crucial SPD will run at those speeds although the might not be free of errors and by that I mean they could pass the pi run but with performance loss but any GMH can do it that is why I said you didn’t test any of them


After all know offense and sorry to crap Victor thread (if it is not OK with Victor please delete that post and the previous one )

[Cpt Twitchy]

Hey guys I am getting some ram that does 2-1-1-1 at 2000 pretty soon, and by soon I mean in about 10years or so :D

[jmax_oc]

to Jmax_oc,

I don't know why u always mention " WR " here.
anyone want's to use 512m*2 or 1g*1 these days ?
or...use LN2 or some super_cold air/water cooling ur ram?
we are talking about new products review but not xtreme overclk here, ok ?
I don't think 700mhz with bad bad timings are faster than 650mhz 4-3-3-x/4-4-4-x.
But I like to see lower volt. stable at ddr2-1200.

for this pair of Geil 9600es 1G*2
I need only 2.7v to reach 1300 4-3-3-8 1m on nv680i.
2.15v 1200 5-5-5-x pi_32m on P5B-Deluxe
isn't that good ?

for Overclking, do we need a 700mhz 3.2v ram to achieve spi/3dmark WR ?
of course not.
but to run faster, 500mhz 3-3-3-x, 600mhz 4-4-4-x is what we concern, right ?

mean no offence, ur 700mhz+ records are impressive.
I started this thread as a Pre-Review but not a XS ram overclking.
sorry.
I just speak about current wr since I read too many time members saying that Team is the best memory whereas Team isn't the best manufacturer.

Concerning your Results with PC9600, of course they are good... ES, Pretest + Ultra high binning memory (600MHz CAS4 stable)

On NF6 platform, I just would like to make a little precision on it : high scores on nf6 will never impress me since there is a sort of higher latency from the chipset like the 1333 strap on Badaxe.
It explains why there s only on nf6 that you manage to get a 4-3-3- over 600MHz.

Concerning my score over 700MHz, look at my bench with 2.45V and 2x1GB sticks... It's a very cool voltage (2.45V) and a classical ammount of memory (2GB)

[jmax_oc]

Basically you know that your limit is the chipset and that got nothing to do with the brand of ram so I bet that any GMH flashed with those Crucial SPD will run at those speeds although the might not be free of errors and by that I mean they could pass the pi run but with performance loss but any GMH can do it that is why I said you didn’t test any of them
First of all, you are wrong : how can you said I have never test D9GMH sticks ??? I may have tested 5 differents stick of D9GMH :D

Secondly, the very high frequency I get with my crucial isn't due to his SPD with EPP... It's only due to their ability to reach high freq with CAS5 timings. I look at the Crucial SPD and I compared it to Geil and other brand : othing extraordinary :D

Finally, I just would like to read Victorwang results on my favorite brand manufacturer without being hurted each time by you

[VictorWang]

more test:

2.2v ddr2-1120 4-3-3-8-2T dual_pi_32m+sp2004 running at same time.
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1168175128_0.jpg


2.3v ddr2-1156 4-3-3-8-2T dual_pi_32m+sp2004 running at same time.
http://vic.expreview.com/attachment/1168175128_1.jpg

[gonX]

:slobber: NICE! :banana:

[albertyin]

Nice Job Victor:toast:
And also awesome ram:eek:

but i also wonder how long it can last at that high frequency and voltage:confused:

[Fr3ak]

Nice RAM you got there. Will be interesting to see wether it makes it into retail or not.
When I first saw the pictures I was a little surprised, because one of the main reasons for DDR2 developement was to make the ram run at a lower operating voltage, so it stays cooler and needs less power.
Now we already are at DDR1 stock voltage, assuming those sticks can handle the voltage over time.

[VictorWang]

:D I suggest using 1200, 5-5-5-15 with 2.2v, that will be cool enough :D

[x3ro]

I Just got home and found a fed ex package containing 2x1gb GeILPC2-9600..

Only difference there is is the sticker.. Mine says:

DDR2-1200
GX22GB9600-ES
GeIL Power User
Limited Edition

^^

Ill post testing results soon..

Regards

[VictorWang]

I Just got home and found a fed ex package containing 2x1gb GeILPC2-9600..

Only difference there is is the sticker.. Mine says:

DDR2-1200
GX22GB9600-ES
GeIL Power User
Limited Edition

^^

Ill post testing results soon..

Regards

:toast: cool ! waiting for ur results :D
really nice clk/timing ram.

[metro.cl]

impresive

[Raja@ASUS]

victor those orthos blend and super pi tests combined are my kind of drug for stability, very nicley done, that's how users should present stuff that we can actually use unconditionally and at good volts too..

nice
raja

[x3ro]

:toast: cool ! waiting for ur results :D
really nice clk/timing ram.

Ill be posting em after next week. Since next week I got exams nd stuff at school.

Regards

[fritzman]

Victor... NICE!

Great to see some info on the Geil's... I am about to grab a set of their 8500's (GX22GB8500PDC) and haven't been able to find much info on them, so this review has been encouraging.

x3ro... you're one fortunate young fella!

[Revv23]

if they can actually stock retail kits that will do that then that is amazing.

[shogo_ca]

are they hot to the touch ? HR-07 is needed !!! :)

[LittleDevil]

Really nice gift from GEIL ;)

regards

[Doom5]

If they warranty this stuff, maybe memory can safely take higher voltages than we thought.

[BvK]

howfar can you get these sticks with 3-3-3-9 and 2.45V? Could you please test that for me?:-)