Is this everything i need? Silent, 3x120...

[Ricbus]

Hello

I just ordered som tygon (3/8) and a sleeve kit so that I can prepare mye Lian Li case for some watercooling, and get a better airflow in it. I think this shopping cart have all the things I need, except fans (I have them). My target is a good and silent watercooling (also overclocking), and everything shall be inside the case. The reason I have for the pump, is that it have 5 levels of flow (also noice), and the radiator because I don´t have room for a thicker one.

Basket:
http://bildr.no/thumb/28022.jpeg (http://bildr.no/view/28022)

As you can se my plan is a fillport with tank like this with a t-port.
http://bildr.no/thumb/28018.jpeg (http://bildr.no/view/28018)
This is good for filling new water and don´t take a lot of space either.

The radiator will be in the bottom, therefore fanfilters (not so pretty:P) instead of a nice radiatorgrill. I used THIS (http://www.performance-pcs.com) webshop. The nipples for the radiator and tank is included, waterblocks come later.

So is it anything I miss, or should change for my setup? Comments? Maybe a cheaper webshop?
Thanks :D

[spudnik]

sry for the threadcrap but silent is an absolute; the lowest you can go would be "quiet," because of the noise generated by the fans and the pump.

on topic: waterblocks? clamps? (3/8" tubing will be very difficult to force over the barbs on the MCP655, but it's possible)

maybe someone else can check over it too and point out a bunch of stuff I missed

[Solarfall]

lose the alphacool water additive i had some and found that it did'nt mix with distilled water at all. it just stayed at the t-line and did'nt budge,
after bit of shaking the case ( beleave wasnt fun i have a stacker and it weighs allmost 25 kilos). don't know about the rad eather, if its quiet or not, but what i know is
that thermochill pa rads are the most silent ones out there. other than that looks like a good list for me.

and btw performance pc web store is a very good and reliable web-store, and they ship stuff very rabidly. good store :up:

[Ricbus]

I know it won´t be extremely silent, but I got some low noise fans, so it will be quiet. I also read that the pump is very silent if you hang it in o-rings or have it on some rubber or something.

the thermochill is too thick :(. I only have a miditower, and had some mesurement... Is swiftech mcr320 better than bip3? I have these fans
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=5&lng=en

Whick water additive do you recommend? I want green:P. I think I can heat up the tygon in warm water and force it on the pump. I have some clamps, and waterblocks must come later because of the money.

[skaktuss]

yes mcr is better than bip, but a bit thicker.

[Helmore]

MCR is 34mm and a BIP is 25mm, I think you can do the measurements yourself....

[Solarfall]

I know it won´t be extremely silent, but I got some low noise fans, so it will be quiet. I also read that the pump is very silent if you hang it in o-rings or have it on some rubber or something.

the thermochill is too thick :(. I only have a miditower, and had some mesurement... Is swiftech mcr320 better than bip3? I have these fans
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=5&lng=en

Whick water additive do you recommend? I want green:P. I think I can heat up the tygon in warm water and force it on the pump. I have some clamps, and waterblocks must come later because of the money.



yep i know that the pump is very silent, i have laing d5 vario witch is more or less the same pump that you have. and about that additive, i have just regular antifreeze in my loop + distilledwater,
the one you use for cars, you can get it in various colors, green, blue, red witch allways looks more or less like manly pink, allso there is colorless antifreeze.
i really recomend that you use something to kill the wildlife in your loop, to use only distilledwater is just stubid. after 2-3 months you will have your very own zoo in your loop if you dont use any antifreeze or antialgae.
you can buy some antialgae stuff from petshops or you can get it from various webshops that sell watercooling stuff, asslong as you use additive that has glygol, your fine.

[Ricbus]

Thanks for all the help! I´m going to make a radiator in carton so that I can se if the swiftech rad will fit or not. One last quiestion... will the antifreeze also kill the "wildlife"? :P

[Solarfall]

Thanks for all the help! I´m going to make a radiator in carton so that I can se if the swiftech rad will fit or not. One last quiestion... will the antifreeze also kill the "wildlife"? :P
lol yes it will

[IanY]

Antifreeze will pretty much kill everything and anything.

You'll need boiling water and soap to force 3/8" tubing over the MCP655. Its already difficult with 1/2" without heated water and next to impossible with 7/16" with hot water.

[cdelong]

yeah, 1/2" was tough to fit on my D5. 7/16" or 3/8" will be a no go, even with heating first.

Get 1/2" and you wont be sorry. Fillports come in 1/2" and most systems are standard with 1/2" stuff. 3/8" will increase your pressure, but kill your flow. It's kinda like squeezing the end of a running garden hose.

[IanY]

Don't mean to be rude, and I know that money doesn't grow on trees, but since you want to water cool, maybe you will come to the realization that a midtower Lian Li isn't the proper platform.

Perhaps one of the solutions would be to move on to a proper water cooling case with adequate space. I know it costs money, but so does water cooling.

[Ricbus]

Ok, then I have to go for another pump, because I already ordered tygon in 3/8. I went for 3/8 instead of 1/2 because of it´s not so thick. I know it would be better with a new case, but i know it is just enough space in it. Maybe I by a new case later, but not now. I´ve also seen a lot of pictures with the same case and watercooling inside, but not with 3x120 rad. They had a 2x120 rad in the bottom, and the pump beside it. Now I have space just over the rad.

Maybe I go for this pump:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=2539
It had 3/8 fittings, but make more noise :(

[IanY]

No, man. Go for the DDC Ultra (aka DDC+). Its the 18W model. Don't buy the 10W model. BTW, its more quiet than the D5/MCP655 that you wanted to buy (I know because I have both), and its better performing as well.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=201&products_id=20655

[Ricbus]

I´ll guess I have no choise, but this is from the webshop:

"A Note of Caution! the MCP355 generates higher audible noise than the MCP350 and MCP655 pumps. This product is not recommended for users seeking silent operations."

Isn´t the MCP350 good enough? Because it is more silent. Sorry for spamming you with quiestions, but it´s a lot of money for me.

[IanY]

Well.. the MCP350 will work well. Incidently, the 350/355s are more quiet than the 655 at its upper settings (3, 4 or 5).

There's a difference between what works well and what works fabulously well. But if money is an issue, then a MCP350 is definitely a better buy than a MCP655 if you need to use 3/8" ID tubing, which is what I would not recommend. The choice is yours.

If money were an issue, I would get rid of the DD Fillport reservoir as well. It serves no purpose other than more fluid at the top of a T-line and its not a real reservoir. A regular T-line would work well, thus saving you more money.

As mentioned above, the Alphacool fluid additive is not the best and its expensive. See if you can find some Pentosin where you live (Audi/VW/BMW parts store).

[Ricbus]

Ok, I think you gave me all the help I needed. Now I just have to think over if I want to order a new tygon with 1/2 or the pump. Anyway, thanks a lot!

[TMonte]

the thermochill is too thick :(. I only have a miditower, and had some mesurement... Is swiftech mcr320 better than bip3? I have these fans
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=5&lng=en




Don't mean to be rude, and I know that money doesn't grow on trees, but since you want to water cool, maybe you will come to the realization that a midtower Lian Li isn't the proper platform.

Perhaps one of the solutions would be to move on to a proper water cooling case with adequate space. I know it costs money, but so does water cooling.

FWIW, here's a couple pics of my latest WC rig in a mid-tower LianLi. I just finished mocking it up today, so it needs some final filing and to be wiped clean. This case is a 6-year old PC-6000 that has seen a good bit of modification over those years. The front bezel will be receiving some round-hole modder's mesh from MNPCTech when Bill gets more in...but anyway...

http://moparextreme.com/img/project/07/1.jpg

http://moparextreme.com/img/project/07/2.jpg

That's a Coolingworks 22T in there now. It's 40mm thick, the Thermochill PA's are 59. I could bolt a 120.2 right in with a little more cutting, but a 120.3 would be too tall even without the optical drive (although a CW 32T or BIP/X/GTS/GTX 360 would fit if I lost the drive).

Point is, it can be done...and I shoe-horned a 120mm fan on the back panel too. All three are Scythe S-Flex 1600RPM jobbers which will be run at 7V/800RPM.

Good luck. :D


Tom

[IanY]

Beautiful job there! Congratulations!

Even then, don't you think its a bit cramped? Just an observation.

[TMonte]

Nah...I only run a single HDD and a single video card in this machine, so it's fine, and I could go SLI/X-Fire if ever necessary. Besides, it fits nice on my desk.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment! :D