ATI RD600 Chipset-DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G First Look

[windwithme]

Since the second half year of 2006, due to Core 2 Duo, Intel platform
becomes the focus in enthusiast group again. Besides 975X chipset,
Intel also launched P965 chipset to enhance its product line.

On the other hand, NVIDIA released NF590 Intel edition this year.
But the performance and OC ability of it is not as good as prospect.
Then, they launched the brand new 6 series to backup the Intel platform

At this moment, except RD580 for AM2, ATI still has a “Final solution” for Intel platform~RD600(ICFX3200)

This time, I have DFI’s LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G in hand.
The board adopts ATI’s RD600; also this is a real high-end LP product of DFI after a long time.

The package of the board is totally different from the past one,
The cartoon illustration is unique style of LANParty product.
I think the red color is represent ATI’s logo color.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8048/icfx32001sf5.jpg


The accessories from the package;
Wow, super-thick user menu, driver disc, IO shield and cables…


http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/371/icfx32002in2.jpg


DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G
Motherboard appearance

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/4893/icfx32003ov2.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7128/icfx32004na1.jpg



A view of board’s lower left: a built-in debug light, chip of Dual gigabit LAN,
a future standard of VGA solution~ 3 slots of PCIe, and 3 traditional PCI

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8606/icfx32005tc9.jpg



A view of board’s lower right:
Built-in Power/ Reset onboard button,
Southbridge SB600 supports 4 SATAII ports, and RAID 0/1, 0+1 compatible
Promise PDC40719 RAID chip, also supports 4 SATAII ports, RAID 0/ 1/ 0+1, 5 compatible

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1119/icfx32006ts1.jpg


A view of board’s upper right:
4 x DIMM for memory,
24 pin power plug and a IDE device.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4318/icfx32007ib1.jpg


A view of board’s upper left:
6 phase digital PWM, more stable power supply
and a better space-saving for a huge-size CPU cooling fan.


http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/373/icfx32008dj5.jpg


I/O components

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7793/icfx32009ni9.jpg


The temperature of ATI chipset is lower than Intel/ NVIDIA,
Due to North bridge uses a LP exclusive heat sink

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4008/icfx320010cf4.jpg


A fancy LANParty case modding sticker, and a quick installation guide.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8691/icfx320012mi6.jpg


A supreme High-end/ OC motherboard, should work with a supreme high performance DDRII memory:
CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2x2048-8888C4DF

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6756/icfx320011gs6.jpg


A cute pinky “starting screen”

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7950/icfx320013zd5.jpg

the detail of BIOS selection be coming soon..

[The Nemesis]

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[hookid]

damn that thing looks nice

[Senater_Cache]

shame that the NB sink uses those pesky hooks/clips

[Senater_Cache]

whoop[s dbl post

[GoriLLakoS]

Any comparison to 975X on pi 32m without tweaks?

[s e t h]

great pictures windwithme - also looking forward to any results/findings of yours :D

[kiwi]

Only 2 sata cables :D

[mrlobber]

Only 2 sata cables :D

That's called "getting rid of the useless stuff for benchers" :banana:

[erwinz]

@windwithme

ahhh.. I envy you.. :)

:woot:

looking forward for more of your results.. :)

[steelballzz]

subscrbing

nice pics

[Kasparz]

That's called "getting rid of the useless stuff for benchers" :banana:
Why manual is included then?

[Revv23]

whats wrong with just two SATA cables? like people here dont have a box full of twenty laying around somewhere?

The people that dont are the poeople that dont use more then 2 sata drives. not only that SATA cables are cheap anyways.

[Kabauterman]

Damn Nice :D

when it will be on the market

[Paulo Jorge]

Slobbering over my laptops monitor just looking these awsome pics.

:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: .

Santa Claus i wanna one of these for christmas...

:YIPPIE:

[Lestat]

these are not final retail boards, DFI has already stated that the boards being reviewed now are not final.

so take that for what its worth when looking at reviews.
less than a dozen boards were sent out for review specifying they were not final.
pretty darn close but not 100% final

and you guys reviewing these boards need to stipulate this when posting pre-final reviews.

im not trying to take away from WWM's always fun reviews i just think its important to note that DFI themselves said these are not Final boards. and WWM need to denote this in his review if at all possible

[qdemn7]

these are not final retail boards, DFI has already stated that the boards being reviewed now are not final.What else could they change this late in the game other than the BIOS? :confused:

[Revv23]

these are not final retail boards, DFI has already stated that the boards being reviewed now are not final.

so take that for what its worth when looking at reviews.
less than a dozen boards were sent out for review specifying they were not final.
pretty darn close but not 100% final

and you guys reviewing these boards need to stipulate this when posting pre-final reviews.

im not trying to take away from WWM's always fun reviews i just think its important to note that DFI themselves said these are not Final boards. and WWM need to denote this in his review if at all possible

Tony has specifically said these are final PCB's.

Could you please link to where DFi said these weren't final?

Obviously they could be changing the bios, but that almost always happens on the review samples. The PCB and components should not be changing one bit.

[somwhere_there]

waiting for some interesting (pre)review - saw some nice SATA performance at Anand tests.

Subscribed ;)

[principino1984]

nice..thanks for the christmas gift!...

subscribed

[rra]

Nice picslike layout around cpu no big caps to block phaze cooling hope the results are as good .

[Okda]

the AMD logo on the box is not placed correctly

but still Very nice mobo, i like the orange color

[windwithme]

BIOS

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/6286/icfxb1zo2.jpg




http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/678/icfxb2qj4.jpg




http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6473/icfxb3qk8.jpg


CPU
0.44375V~1.60000V

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9020/icfxb4wd9.jpg


CPU
max+121.5%

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8501/icfxb5dz0.jpg


DDRII
1.50~3.01V

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8169/icfxb6bo3.jpg




http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4484/icfxb7dc5.jpg




http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7898/icfxb8tw7.jpg



CPU,max->511Mhz

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8180/icfxb9oa5.jpg




http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7748/icfxb10uo0.jpg




http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4264/icfxb11fg7.jpg



http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/535/icfxb12rk9.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9039/icfxb13zo7.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7061/icfxb14sd3.jpg


FSB IO

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3750/icfxb15cd7.jpg


CMOS Reloaded


http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8417/icfxb16is3.jpg




http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3601/icfxb17zg9.jpg




http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/786/icfxb18wv5.jpg




http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9717/rd600s1wd2.png


AMD System Manager

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2883/rd600s2oz8.png


CPU ,max->566Mhz
DDRII,max->950Mhz

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3993/rd600s3yb2.png




http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2922/rd600s4di8.png




http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1070/rd600s5nv4.png



Test platform
CPU:INTEL Core 2 Extreme X6800
MB: DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G
DRAM:CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
VGA:Nvidia 8800GTX
HD:Seagate 7200.7 80GB
POWER:Corsair HX620W Modular Power Supply
Cooler:TT Sonic Tower

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4854/icfx320014lr0.jpg


CPU 500X7=>3500Mhz,BIOS:1.53V
DRAM DDRII 1111 CL4 4-4-9 2T,BIOS:2.20V
8800GTX Default

3DMARK2005


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/3491/rd500110005mu4.png


Super PI 32M

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2199/rd5001100pisyg6.png


CPU 511X7=>3575Mhz
DDRII 1200 CL4 4-4-9 2T BIOS:2.37V
Super PI 1M

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/972/rd51112001mda1.png


ATI RD600 running the PI this program is slower with other chip but running
other test program is same with other chips.

Other performance and over clock test still not finished yet. Windwithme will
go out two days for idea of ideal. The final test will publish on next week. Thanks for your support.

[OldGuy]

Sweet pics and screen shots WWM...how do you actaully "like" the board compared to other offerings? Forget performance. I just want to know if you like what you see and feel comfy working with it...

[FragTek]

Wow this board is just too sexy... Seriously, when in the hell are we gonna have a chance at getting these??

[rick_fx]

So many bios options :D

Nice preview WWM :)

[Praxis1452]

Wow this board is just too sexy... Seriously, when in the hell are we gonna have a chance at getting these??
Think Jan 17th

[erwinz]

ah.. jan 17 will be nice.. :) early present for my birthday.. hehehe :woot:

nice WWM :)

[s e t h]

hi windwithme - please note any voltages changes necessary to get the board to 500fsb...thanks

[somwhere_there]

Seems like a real successor of LP nf4ultra (judging by BIOS) ;)

OT - get kinda strange feeling when seeing AMD manager for Intel :D

[LittleDevil]

I really like that mobo ;)

regards

[FragTek]

Think Jan 17th
Right about now Jan. 17th feels like it's about a year away.... hehe

[Rudyn]

Good old days of DFI has just making a comeback, can't wait for this!

[flesheatinvirus]

Looks good so far, that just might be my next board.

[somwhere_there]

know this question is "unpopular" here, but - what about the price on this upcoming gem? for a feature build it's quite a question (summer 2k7)... :rolleyes:

[Speederlander]

Perhaps it's just me, and perhaps things will change as people start exploring the options, but what I get from this review and Tony's initial feedback in the Intel forum is:

1. Insane amount of BIOS options.
2. Overall performance falls between existing boards.

Am I off-base on this?

[Revv23]

Perhaps it's just me, and perhaps things will change as people start exploring the options, but what I get from this review and Tony's initial feedback in the Intel forum is:

1. Insane amount of BIOS options.
2. Overall performance falls between existing boards.

Am I off-base on this?


About right.

Keep in mind that this has async ram clocking though.

What i mean is that in my case it performs the same as my P5B deluxe at 450x8 1:1.

But, with this board you can run 450x8 and have the DDR at 600MHZ. Something i cannot even touch on the P5b. So you can get more performance out of it that way.

[Cupcake]

Off topic but those little creatures are freaking me out

I thought I was seeing things untill they kept appearing in all your pics

[kemo]

Off topic but those little creatures are freaking me out

I thought I was seeing things untill they kept appearing in all your pics
That is windwithme signature

[Revv23]

Off topic but those little creatures are freaking me out

I thought I was seeing things untill they kept appearing in all your pics


Yes he puts those in to prove that they are his own pics.

[Viss]

But, with this board you can run 450x8 and have the DDR at 600MHZ. Something i cannot even touch on the P5b. So you can get more performance out of it that way.

Big plus compared to P5B. Would like to see the difference between for example 11x363 1:1 and 8x500 mem 363, same timings.

[justin_c]

what, only 1.6 vcore max?
what is CPU VID special max? some percentage of voltage?
anyways, so far so good! beats asus 680i!
i'm worried about max fsb and the usual bios bugs.

[windwithme]

what, only 1.6 vcore max?
what is CPU VID special max? some percentage of voltage?
anyways, so far so good! beats asus 680i!
i'm worried about max fsb and the usual bios bugs.

MAX=>1.6V x 121.25%=>1.94V :)

[erwinz]

MAX=>1.6V x 121.25%=>1.94V :)


tnxs ^_^ really forward seeing this board in retail... :)

[justin_c]

Good, thats plenty of voltage for air :eek:
Thanks for the preview windwithme.
Awaiting some good benches from other retail samples :slobber:
There will be a final BIOS with more than 511 FSB correct?

[damnnit]

Seems like they could have made the addition voltage read as 1-3v or so instead of percentage, would be easier.

[thecake90]

What's with the Pink!

[Raja@ASUS]

Sweet pics and screen shots WWM...how do you actaully "like" the board compared to other offerings? Forget performance. I just want to know if you like what you see and feel comfy working with it...

lol mark, I doubt whether anyone's gonna have the balls for that. Review sample etiquette at it's best..

regards
Raja

[musashi01]

nice, at last some results from this mobo:woot:
those chipset tempretures are nothing for 24/7, though.
i hope it isn't getting that warm at lower clocks, too:stick:

[FlyBoyGeo]

thanks for the pics and info!

[kosmonova]

You think the chipset is very hot ?:confused:

[somwhere_there]

You think the chipset is very hot ?:confused:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/dfird600p_12160631222/13738.png

i think not ;)

[Atrin]

You think the chipset is very hot ?:confused:

komonova means C

look at the screenshot's 58-67-73C Chipset Temperature.. :confused:

[Kasparz]

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/dfird600p_12160631222/13738.png

i think not ;)
Power consumption has nothing to do with chipset temperature. There are much more components on board, not just socket and chipset.

[musashi01]

i think it has something do do with it, but its not the full story.
look at the 680sli - high power consumption and hot temperatures.
i think its the same with nf4, e.g.
but regarding the price which will be around 250€, dfi could have installed a better chipset cooler, something semiactive like asus did it on the p5w dh which is even cheaper:slapass:
seems to bee a good board with an insane bios for an insane price

[Atrin]

Power consumption has nothing to do with chipset temperature. There are much more components on board, not just socket and chipset.

yes

73C it's very HOT! :nono:

[Revv23]

i think it has something do do with it, but its not the full story.
look at the 680sli - high power consumption and hot temperatures.
i think its the same with nf4, e.g.
but regarding the price which will be around 250€, dfi could have installed a better chipset cooler, something semiactive like asus did it on the p5w dh which is even cheaper:slapass:
seems to bee a good board with an insane bios for an insane price


MSRP is $220... thats not too high for a breand new board IMO. Especially with a featureset like this one.

not only that, the chipset is brand spanking new as well, im sure the price will go down in a while.

[musashi01]

MSRP is $220... thats not too high for a breand new board IMO. Especially with a featureset like this one.

not only that, the chipset is brand spanking new as well, im sure the price will go down in a while.
these are some good news, you got a source?
220$ would be something around 175€ - i doubt the baoard woill be that cheap here but... it would bei nice:rolleyes:

[kiwi]

About right.

Keep in mind that this has async ram clocking though.

What i mean is that in my case it performs the same as my P5B deluxe at 450x8 1:1.

But, with this board you can run 450x8 and have the DDR at 600MHZ. Something i cannot even touch on the P5b. So you can get more performance out of it that way.

True but Xtreme cooling + non XE cpu desperately needs > 550 fsb :)

[Revv23]

True but Xtreme cooling + non XE cpu desperately needs > 550 fsb :)


Then stay on P5B. Why invest in LN2 is you cant afford a high multi cpu?

This thing with mods should hit 530 or so, thats not so bad at all... only e6300 users need to worry, but even so 500fsb is 3.6ghz...

[Raja@ASUS]

Then stay on P5B. Why invest in LN2 is you cant afford a high multi cpu?

This thing with mods should hit 530 or so, thats not so bad at all... only e6300 users need to worry, but even so 500fsb is 3.6ghz...


well said, people have to start accepting this..


regards
Raja

[The Nemesis]

well said, people have to start accepting this..


regards
Raja
I've given up on trying to discuss the value of this board's 511FSB & memory clocking potenitial. I rather hope people pass on it. It increase's my chances of getting one the first week they come out.:)

[kiwi]

Then stay on P5B. Why invest in LN2 is you cant afford a high multi cpu?

This thing with mods should hit 530 or so, thats not so bad at all... only e6300 users need to worry, but even so 500fsb is 3.6ghz...

I bench only DI which is rather cheap :)

As for LN2/DI and lower multi cpus, it is not just money, it's fun getting lower binned cpus higher than XE :)

[qdemn7]

I rather hope people pass on it. It increase's my chances of getting one the first week they come out.:)QFT! :toast:

[Revv23]

I bench only DI which is rather cheap :)

As for LN2/DI and lower multi cpus, it is not just money, it's fun getting lower binned cpus higher than XE :)


Well if its all about FSB to you then obviously 965 is your only choice, no other chipset even has a chance at seeing 600mhz.

[ugp]

Looks awesome indeed. Kinda makes me wanna get back into benching.

[bluep3ace]

funny to see an ATi/AMD chipset with an Intel CPU, especially on the box.

[somwhere_there]

yes

73C it's very HOT! :nono:

sorry about previous post - my bad :slap:
made some conclusions based upon power consumption without knowing subject (2x :slap: )

but what about that high temperature - 73C :eek: it's just a bad stock cooling for chip or some deeper issues?

[qdemn7]

but what about that high temperature - 73C :eek: it's just a bad stock cooling for chip or some deeper issues?See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1913767&postcount=906

[somwhere_there]

See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1913767&postcount=906


thanks :toast:

[Atrin]

See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1913767&postcount=906

thx :toast:

[Supershanks]

If I get this mobo 1st change will be Swiftech MCX159 Northbridge Cooler (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1924439&postcount=971)
plan using above with Thermalright Ultra 120 & 38mm Fan (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1925094&postcount=977)

Think that will help improve cooling.

[xlink]

Then stay on P5B. Why invest in LN2 is you cant afford a high multi cpu?

This thing with mods should hit 530 or so, thats not so bad at all... only e6300 users need to worry, but even so 500fsb is 3.6ghz...
BS


it's 3.5GHz on an e6300

learn math

[Revv23]

BS


it's 3.5GHz on an e6300

learn math


pretty rude. my argument still stands. :slap:

[windwithme]

Pictures of board’s detail.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9681/icfx320015sy2.jpg


http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3994/icfx320016rn4.jpg


http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5117/icfx320017nd0.jpg


The lab test system details
CPU: INTEL Core 2 Extreme X6800
MB: DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G
DRAM:CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
VGA:Nvidia 8800GTX
HD:Seagate 7200.10 320GB
POWER:Corsair HX620W Modular Power Supply
Cooler:TT Sonic Tower

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1804/icfx320014gk0.jpg


Used X6800 series multiplier crack, can keep the processor uprise even
after x11.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2002/rd60013xqa1.png


8800GTX the default 576/900 MHz
3DMark2003
In an environment likes 680i, it runs 10% lower

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2692/rd6002003hz7.png


3DMark2005
In an environment likes 680i, RD600 runs almost the same to it.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6407/rd6002005aj6.png


3DMark2006
In an environment likes 680i, RD600 runs almost the same to it.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9113/rd6002006qm8.png


About the 3D rendering, RD600’s performance is quite good. It equipped with
the highest model of NVIDIA~8800GTX. Only 3DMark2003 was performed so-
so. The result of other 2 like: 05/ 06, were the same to NVIDIA’s 680i. Hope
that NVIDIA has a better driver of 8800GTX for RD600 to improve the
performance in 3DMark03.


FSB part:
Not long ago, the highest FSB of Intel platform that I tested is
ASUS P5B-Deluxe

My first X6800, which tested with P5B-Deluxe, was worked steady
at highest FSB497. But the result of DFI’s RD600, worked steady at FSB520.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3653/rd600520cd6.png


My second CPU, E6300 gained highest FSB470 and worked steady
(no matter how high the voltage I increase).
The highest FSB of RD600 is 485. This’s worked steady too.
(the same E6300, also no matter how hard I increase the voltage,
it just can’t push the FSB a little higher.
I think it must about the physical limitation of CPU itself)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/14/rd600e63fd2.png


At last, the DDRII settings of RD600 are totally free for user to adjust.
Not necessary to accord with the FSB ratio.
CPU:500X7=>3500Mhz
DRAM: DDRII 1200 CL4 4-4-9 2T
(rest of some minor parameters are so tight)

2.35V, a single Super PI 32M finished

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7984/rd5001200pistl2.png


2.38V double Super PI 32M finished

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3553/rd5001200pidix9.png


Although, I’m not test this board very detail.
But I’d like to make a initial comments of 1st part test.

DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G
Merits
1.BIOS options and settings are various and comprehensive

2.Built-in total 8 x SATAII ports and the 3rd PCIe~ physics card,
expansibility is really high

3.The performance of FSB is excellent; almost can compares to Intel’s chipset.

4.Memory adopts an “open-structure” for users to tweak.
You can tweak how fast you want the DDRII to be.
Not limited by CPU FSB ratio anymore.

5.The board adopts some good features like: 6-phrase digital PWM,
Dual gigabit LAN, Debug light and on board power/ reset buttons.
Rich features!



Things need to be improved:
1.Price of RD600 is as high as 680i, hope there will be a new cheaper version
that built without Promise RAID chip.

2.If the in-box bundles and package can be improve next time, it’ll be great.

3.The north bridge and areas around should have a better cooling solution,
especially when FSB overclocked more than 500.

4.The BIOS sometimes show a incorrect clocking, when FSB is overclocked.


Although, RD600 is the last chipset that ATI designs for Intel platform.
But DFI still tried their best to make it perfect as a LANParty series product.
A highest FSB and the high “tweak-ability” of memory settings are the
biggest merit of the board’s itself. Moreover, some of the setting and
performance are even better than 965/ 975 and 680i chipset.
If some minors issue that I mentioned about can be improved, I think
LANParty ICFX3200-T2R is the best choice of all Intel platforms.

windwithme will test two in-coming products:

Performance and Overclock
7900GS Phoenix version

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3261/icfx320019bv7.jpg


The mid-range motherboards of Intel’s platform
MSI P6N SLI Platinum

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4177/icfx320018on3.jpg

[erwinz]

very nice results.. :) thanks for sharing.. :) can you compare your results with the Asus commando.. :)

:woot:

[windwithme]

very nice results.. :) thanks for sharing.. :) can you compare your results with the Asus commando.. :)

:woot:


sorry,i dont have Asus commando...:)

[Revv23]

hey wind with me, if you have the time you should try out clocking in 1:1 with 1t command rate, should make board performance alot better. ;)

:toast:

Great write up. :)

[windwithme]

hey wind with me, if you have the time you should try out clocking in 1:1 with 1t command rate, should make board performance alot better. ;)

:toast:

Great write up. :)


Maybe i will try it
thanks:)

[2000army]

Good pics ...very informative