Intel Penryn die shot

[Turtle 1]

http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=4601

[menlatin]

holy, crap. 66% of the core is cache. Thats scary... i mean scary if my name was hector :)

[LvMike]

any talk about socket layout for Penryn? i doubt it will be the same as C2D but i havent seen any info.

[Turtle 1]

Socket change not due until Nehalem

[oijkue]

No,it's not Penryn die picture
It's intel sample 45nm SRAM in Jan 2006

http://news.mydrivers.com/pages/20060126111030_63268.htm

[Turtle 1]

No,it's not Penryn die picture
It's intel sample 45nm SRAM in Jan 2006

http://news.mydrivers.com/pages/20060126111030_63268.htm Mind telling what is to the right of the cache Seems like aweful lot going on there for Sram. On your screen it would be your left. But that is the same die shot.

Ok I followed the source. It went here . There is no die shot at the source. So I would say your correct for sure.gure3d put the Pic in along with the source story.

http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5108

Why in gods name do sites do such things? Well anyway it looks like Intel is on course for 45nm release in 2h 07. Maybe spring IDF we get a sneak preview . Like last year crosses fingers.

Here's a merom die shot.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2546

[Pete]

All getting a we bit confusing

[Knight]

Might be OT:

Why are the wafers made in a circle? Common sense tells me that they are stupid to make them like that, but I know that I am a little ignorant on this matter.

[sierra_bound]

For those who don't know, SRAM is usually used to introduce new process technologies like die shrinks.

Might be OT:

Why are the wafers made in a circle? Common sense tells me that they are stupid to make them like that, but I know that I am a little ignorant on this matter.
After silicon has been purified, it's processed into a crystalline cylinder that's usually several feet long. These cylinders are called ingots. Each ingot is then sliced into large round wafers.

I found a picture that shows the process for integrated circuits.

http://www.madehow.com/images/hpm_0000_0002_0_img0123.jpg

[Blauhung]

Might be OT:

Why are the wafers made in a circle? Common sense tells me that they are stupid to make them like that, but I know that I am a little ignorant on this matter.

the major ones i can think of are plating, litho and planer steps. Plating (sputter in particular) use circular wafers to help out getting uniform metal deposition. square wafers would have large chunks of places where the edge isn't there and large amounts of waisted metal. Litho needs circular wafers to help with edge bead effects. on a square wafer you would get large buildup of resist in the corners. Planer steps can be thought of taking sandpaper to a wafer to polish down excess material. this is done in a circular motion, and would be completely hard to model and work out on other shapes.

hehe, and finaly, wafers are cut from large round ingots. you can play with that here if you want
how to make a wafer (http://www.wafernet.com/PresWK/h-ptl-as3_wsc_siltronic_com_pages_training_pages_Silicon _Ingot-1.htm#)

hehe, sierra beat me to it me while i was in the bathroom

[sierra_bound]

Here's a website that shows the process of turning silicon ingots into wafers.

http://www.tocera.co.jp/en/products/wafer/process.html

A grind wheel is usually used to shape the ingot to the precise diameter needed.

[freecableguy]

Might be OT:

Why are the wafers made in a circle? Common sense tells me that they are stupid to make them like that, but I know that I am a little ignorant on this matter.

Silicon wafers are "seeded" as a precipitate crystalline organic growths in solution. Once they "grow" to an appropriate diameter they are harvested, the outer walls are cut and polished clean and then it's laterally sliced into what you see - the wafer. :)

-FCG

[terrace215]

Guys, this is merely the fully functional 45nm SRAM Intel showed off nearly one year ago, also shown here:

http://www.intel.com/technology/silicon/new_45nm_silicon.htm


Now, it is true that with L2 cache going from 4MB on Conroe to 6MB on Penryn, its percentage of die will increase from the current ~38% to something like ~48%.

But that is not Penryn. Note the absence of any CPU cores, for one thing. :D

This thread should be re-named.

[SkyGod]

I was looking at that thinking..... hmmm... were are the cores? =p Glad I'm not loosing it

[Turtle 1]

Well read the Thread . OIJKUE was kind enough to point it out. Guru3d posted a false pic inorder to get hits. Way to much of that going on. I should have seen from the pics that the core logic wasn't there. My mistake but the article was still there . Yes the thread should be renamed to Penryn prototypes completed.

[frankR]

Might be OT:

Why are the wafers made in a circle? Common sense tells me that they are stupid to make them like that, but I know that I am a little ignorant on this matter.

The 'boule' is what forms when liquid raw materal, such as silicon grows into a solid shape. Some crystal boules form a pyrimid shape, some form cubes, like Sodium Choloride (table salt). Silicon boules have a cylindrical geometry.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Monokristalines_Silizium_für_die_Waferherstellung. jpg

From the cylinderical boule slices are cut, like a slice of bread, and then polished on one surface. This is what is called a silicon wafer. They are used as substrates for the micro-electronics industry, i.e. it's what they fabricate your Core 2 Duo on.

http://www.toyo-adtec.co.jp/img_contents/p_silicon_01.jpg

http://www.cstl.nist.gov/div837/Division/images/semi3.gif


:lol:

I didn't realize there were like 10 other posts before me explaining the same thing. At least I have cool pictures. :D

[Lestat]

interesting that they said this would be the last of the "core" cpu's

wtf are they going to do kill off the core technology after a year in production
or ride with the conroe for an undetermined amount of time ?
and if they are killing it off after a year or so wth?! what is next ?

[ScythedBlade]

Something better supposedly probably with CSI