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Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 05:51 AM
This is one I would have never guessed at.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35219

ChongL
10-19-2006, 06:10 AM
LOL...it's gonna have built in DRM and it's gonna require activation

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 06:21 AM
Ya this is a tuff one to swallow but MS already licensed for x86 by intel

DTU_XaVier
10-19-2006, 06:28 AM
I don't think it'll be an end-consumer product as such, more like a server/office CPU... Much like the Dragon CPUs in China... :)

Best Regards :toast:

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 07:18 AM
I don't think it'll be an end-consumer product as such, more like a server/office CPU... Much like the Dragon CPUs in China... :)

Best Regards :toast:

Well inquirer wrote the article not I.

As for china's cpu future.

http://www.eb-asia.com/article.asp?id=4024

AMD is a traitor to our way of life and to the tech. industry

cky2k6
10-19-2006, 07:21 AM
right, cause intel doesnt sell cpus in china. i think you and nn_step should have a fanboyoff, i would root for nn only because hes not as big of an ass...

[XC] Teroedni
10-19-2006, 07:24 AM
LOL...it's gonna have built in DRM and it's gonna require activation

And it will brobably require a clean legal version of the Latest Windows Vista Os. Probably wont work with any other Os out there.
Real Ms style huh;)

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 07:30 AM
right, cause intel doesnt sell cpus in china. i think you and nn_step should have a fanboyoff, i would root for nn only because hes not as big of an ass...

I didn't google any results for Intel licensing X86 tech to china!!!!!:fact:

[XC] Teroedni
10-19-2006, 07:31 AM
Well inquirer wrote the article not I.

As for china's cpu future.

http://www.eb-asia.com/article.asp?id=4024

AMD is a traitor to our way of life and to the tech. industry

So you fear for the much promised DRAGON!! chip now:ROTF:

You better hope its the lx version they mean and not th nx version

Lx=Weak not a real Amd core K6 probably beats it
nx=Low power version of k7 aka Dragon killer;)

nn_step
10-19-2006, 07:33 AM
If M$ is going to make a CPU, no way in hell is it going to be x86, because Intel and AMD have too much of an edge

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 07:55 AM
So you fear for the much promised DRAGON!! chip now:ROTF:

You better hope its the lx version they mean and not th nx version

Lx=Weak not a real Amd core K6 probably beats it
nx=Low power version of k7 aka Dragon killer;)

Your missing the point. Godson processors are developing extremely fast.

As far as power goes. Ya their behind Godson 3 is = to a p4 perclock. So their not that far behind.

Intel and AMD want a large piece of the china pie. But China has other plans. Than to let Intel and AMD rule the world. Thanks to AMD x86 license agreement with China . China should beable to build X86 processors built on Intel tech. After AMD got a license from intel for x86 intel couldn't stop amd from using it. So same will apply to China. Courts in USA have already set a prelude in the intel vs amd case.

nn_step
10-19-2006, 07:58 AM
umm part of the AMD/Intel case, says that AMD has unlimited access to x86 but it can NOT give out licenses to x86

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 08:03 AM
umm part of the AMD/Intel case, says that AMD has unlimited access to x86 but it can NOT give out licenses to x86

Oh! Really .

http://www.eb-asia.com/article.asp?id=4024

AMD also licensed x86 to transmedia

situman
10-19-2006, 08:05 AM
Or MS could simply buy AMD/ATI with the change it finds in the sofa cushions in the corporate lounges.

nn_step
10-19-2006, 08:07 AM
Oh! Really .

http://www.eb-asia.com/article.asp?id=4024

AMD also licensed x86 to transmedia
ummm transmedia isn't even mentioned in that article :rolleyes:

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 08:09 AM
ummm transmedia isn't even mentioned in that article :rolleyes:
Google is your friend.

Afterburner
10-19-2006, 08:32 AM
Or MS could simply buy AMD/ATI with the change it finds in the sofa cushions in the corporate lounges.
LOL :D

Cooper
10-19-2006, 08:44 AM
One reason for the effort is that Microsoft needs to begin thinking about the next-generation design of its Xbox game console, said Charles P. Thacker, a veteran engineer and Microsoft engineer who will head the Silicon Valley group. Voice recognition may also be an area where the research could play a significant role.
In the chip design effort, another longtime Microsoft researcher, Rich P. Draves, who has worked in various areas including networking and security, will head the Redmond group.

Original news source (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/19/technology/19soft.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=slogin)

Two great men are involved in the groups. This gonna be big for M$. But this certainly won`t be for desktop/server use.

Eastcoasthandle
10-19-2006, 09:16 AM
right, cause intel doesnt sell cpus in china. i think you and nn_step should have a fanboyoff, i would root for nn only because hes not as big of an ass...
I guess your avatar has nothing to do with your opinion of another user either :slapass:

[XC] Teroedni
10-19-2006, 09:20 AM
Your missing the point. Godson processors are developing extremely fast.

As far as power goes. Ya their behind Godson 3 is = to a p4 perclock. So their not that far behind.

Intel and AMD want a large piece of the china pie. But China has other plans. Than to let Intel and AMD rule the world. Thanks to AMD x86 license agreement with China . China should beable to build X86 processors built on Intel tech. After AMD got a license from intel for x86 intel couldn't stop amd from using it. So same will apply to China. Courts in USA have already set a prelude in the intel vs amd case.


Fist of all the current Godson aka Dragon is this fast

he 64-bit Godson 2c 400-800 MHz CPU used in the machine has a MIPS-like instruction set, and is roughly as fast as a 500-mhz Pentium III. The Godson II is made exclusively in China, and consumes relatively little power for its speed in comparison to x86 Intel and compatible AMD chips. A similar Chinese laptop project called the Longmeng also uses the Godson II.
from this article
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Yellow_Sheep_River_develops_%E2%82%AC123_Linux_bas ed_computer


And from this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godson


By 2008, Godson-3 is scheduled to enter production.

Now what does that means
Late 2008? , and what do they mean by enter production?. My guess here is test production and not mass production .

Summarize
The Dragon 3 will come in 2008 or perhaps even as late as q4 2008 /2009 and will have the power of a Pentium 4.

Now i wonder where Amd and Intel will be at then:D .
Hint:The lowest end of their cpus will brobably be faster than the Godson 3

Arkangyl
10-19-2006, 09:44 AM
M$ CPU, you have to call in and register it each time you overclock it....

cky2k6
10-19-2006, 09:59 AM
I guess your avatar has nothing to do with your opinion of another user either :slapass:
no, not really. you have intel in your sig, are you an intel fanboy? guess you are... youre saying the crap that turtle spills about amd is true? nn calls me an intel fanboy when i say conroe is faster, you call me an amd fanboy cause i point out that turtle is a ******

nn_step
10-19-2006, 10:21 AM
M$ CPU, you have to call in and register it each time you overclock it....
:rofl:
Oh god that is funny

cMw
10-19-2006, 10:41 AM
:rofl:
Oh god that is funny
funny but yet for some reason i can almost imagine it happening...i just dont trust M$ enough to buy a CPU from them, i mean jeez i like windows and all but its got some annoying problems every now and then and thats something i dont need from a cpu if u kinda get what im saying

cky2k6
10-19-2006, 10:52 AM
theyre not going to make a desktop cpu... theyre gonna focus on more specialized markets like their consoles, or handhelds.

onewingedangel
10-19-2006, 10:59 AM
Probably just for the xbox successor - they'll likely licence IP from IBM, transmeta, via etc (intel and amd wouldn't licence their IP, and Microsoft don't want to be held up on prices like the original xbox). and outsource the production to various fabs.

Judging on the xbox360 and ps3, It would be better to just come to agreements with the main PC market players to bring their hardware together - using non specialised mass market products.

Just have a set minimum standard and architecture, and just go through the process shrinks/upgrades with them. Have the 'console' badge just mean guaranteed compatability at a minimum set of requirements for the end user - Much like intels platform branding should in theory (a VIIV box as a home entertainment hub/console?)

vudoodoodoo
10-19-2006, 11:02 AM
I bet they fail and then try to buy a Intel or AMD.

cky2k6
10-19-2006, 11:07 AM
if anyone, its amd. intel is too big...

ANP !!!
10-19-2006, 11:50 AM
M$ CPU, you have to call in and register it each time you overclock it....

LOL.....:banana: :banana: :banana:

or wht if u forget the password :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :stick: :stick: :stick: .

LowRun
10-19-2006, 12:04 PM
AMD is a traitor to our way of life and to the tech. industry

Whoaw, stupidity is reaching new levels :clap:

The Ghost
10-19-2006, 12:06 PM
Your missing the point. Godson processors are developing extremely fast.

As far as power goes. Ya their behind Godson 3 is = to a p4 perclock. So their not that far behind.

Intel and AMD want a large piece of the china pie. But China has other plans. Than to let Intel and AMD rule the world. Thanks to AMD x86 license agreement with China . China should beable to build X86 processors built on Intel tech. After AMD got a license from intel for x86 intel couldn't stop amd from using it. So same will apply to China. Courts in USA have already set a prelude in the intel vs amd case.
i do not think that givng china a x86 license for the geode cpu is going to hurt anyone , it surely isn't going to hurt amd or intel , and neither is the dragon
from your link

The licensing of core x86 AMD Geode(TM) processor technology to Peking University via collaboration with MOST will contribute to China's development of low-power and embedded x86 processor technology in the Greater China region. MOST will facilitate discussions between AMD and Chinese companies receiving access to x86 technology licenses. AMD will earn revenue from licensing the AMD Geode processor to commercial entities designated by Peking University and MOST.

red
10-19-2006, 12:11 PM
Those commies! How dare they help the commies! Don't they already steal enough of our tech :D

The Ghost
10-19-2006, 12:11 PM
Intel has a market cap of ~110Mil
AMD has a market cap of ~10Mil (and may go under that today the way their stock is tanking).

MSFT has a market cap of ~280Mil.
you meant billion instead of million , right ?

arisythila
10-19-2006, 12:23 PM
Well inquirer wrote the article not I.

As for china's cpu future.

http://www.eb-asia.com/article.asp?id=4024

AMD is a traitor to our way of life and to the tech. industry

HAHAHAHA, I SOOOOO Knew you were an intel fanboy... Thats why you always bash AMD threads.... I F$%KING knew it!

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 12:29 PM
HAHAHAHA, I SOOOOO Knew you were an intel fanboy... Thats why you always bash AMD threads.... I F$%KING knew it!

You just figured that out. Helping the china man in no way helps the Usa. Giving away tech is stupid at best.

But having MS building CPU's is not good either. NV now thats another story I wish them luck.

Turtle 1
10-19-2006, 12:38 PM
Fist of all the current Godson aka Dragon is this fast

from this article
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Yellow_Sheep_River_develops_%E2%82%AC123_Linux_bas ed_computer


And from this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godson


Now what does that means
Late 2008? , and what do they mean by enter production?. My guess here is test production and not mass production .

Summarize
The Dragon 3 will come in 2008 or perhaps even as late as q4 2008 /2009 and will have the power of a Pentium 4.

Now i wonder where Amd and Intel will be at then:D .
Hint:The lowest end of their cpus will brobably be faster than the Godson 3


True that . But China will catch up . Its just a matter of time . Let us not forget the world hates america. so foe web browsing and such many people would buy the lower cost cpu's from China. Now google godson 3 multi- cores.

[XC] Teroedni
10-19-2006, 12:43 PM
You just figured that out. Helping the china man in no way helps the Usa. Giving away tech is stupid at best.

But having MS building CPU's is not good either. NV now thats another story I wish them luck.

This get better and better:rofl:

The Ghost
10-19-2006, 12:48 PM
True that . But China will catch up . Its just a matter of time . Let us not forget the world hates america. so foe web browsing and such many people would buy the lower cost cpu's from China. Now google godson 3 multi- cores.
just look at the money that amd is going to make off of them

The Ghost
10-19-2006, 12:56 PM
ummm transmedia isn't even mentioned in that article :rolleyes:
Transmeta, AMD Partner Up - move to license AMD's x86-64 technology - Product Information
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EKF/is_22_47/ai_75212668

arisythila
10-19-2006, 08:15 PM
True that . But China will catch up . Its just a matter of time . Let us not forget the world hates america. so foe web browsing and such many people would buy the lower cost cpu's from China. Now google godson 3 multi- cores.

like usa doesnt help china out enough... LOL But somehow i believe that yet again, USA MAY buy cpu's from china if it benefits the US in any way..

As of now, It has no benefits. So its basically trash.

~Mike

Poodle
10-19-2006, 08:59 PM
Well inquirer wrote the article not I.

As for china's cpu future.

http://www.eb-asia.com/article.asp?id=4024

AMD is a traitor to our way of life and to the tech. industry


What's new? :confused: As good as all big companies are in China now making ties of all sorts with big smiles on their faces. :D

I hate to brake it to you but big companies are not patriotic, they are "profi-otic". Next time you drink a Fanta you should know how Coca Cola came up with it. They wanted a share of the marcet of Nazi Germany and Nazi taken Europe. But selling Coca cola in the streets of Berlin in the late 1930s and early 1940s would be too dangerous as it's illegal to do buisness at wartime with an enemy. So they came up with Fanta witch drew less attention to the Coca Cola Co. than Coke would.

And IBM delivered punch card machines to the Nazis that were used to organize the Holocaust. The CEO of Ibm at that time knew very well what the machines would be used for (The Nazis weren't shy, you know). The machines were also used by the Nazi military to organize the forces that were invading Europe and later killing American troops. Ironic isn't it, American soldiers killed by machines made by Americans. And all big smiles in the IBM boardroom. :D


Not buying? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM#World_War_II :fact:

"Black also published IBM's own internal reports admitting that these machines made the Nazis much more efficient in their efforts"


Big companies show ALL the criteria for psykopathy by the way.

And as far as what your "way of life" goes... It and democracy went out the window with the patriotic act :usa:. So how does that tyranny air taste like in "the land of the free"?

The old Romans were patriotic and proud untill the very end as the whole empire came caving down from within out from unlimited GRrrreeeed.:pimp:
John Lennon said something like: "USA is the new Roman empire and NY is the new Rome".

Remember that History has a way of repeating itself. :fact:

Sooo... wake up or "stay bamboocha" and fall like the Romans...

Canibuz
10-19-2006, 11:00 PM
If you get a new hard drive your gonna have to call Microsoft to reactivate your CPU LMAO

Kjaks
10-20-2006, 12:04 AM
LOL...it's gonna have built in DRM and it's gonna require activation
Did you suck that one from your own tits??

Afterburner
10-20-2006, 12:50 AM
LoL :D

clayton
10-20-2006, 07:32 AM
If Microsoft is 100% gonna go for CPUs, we'll see Google after this later.
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nn_step
10-20-2006, 09:04 AM
If Microsoft is 100% gonna go for CPUs, we'll see Google after this later.
Why? Google already gets plenty of wonderful products from Intel and AMD :stick:

en4cer
10-20-2006, 08:39 PM
Or MS could simply buy AMD/ATI with the change it finds in the sofa cushions in the corporate lounges.


LMAO :ROTF: :fact: