Unusually High Temps...

[Alex41290]

Hello all,

Got my C2D rig set up fairly recently, but I've been stuck trying to get my temps down. With the watercooling in my sig, it idles around 40*C at stock, and loads around 46*C. I switched to stock cooling to see if it was my watercooling loop, but now the temps are even higher. I've reapplied thermal paste numerous times, all to no avail.

I've already lapped the CPU, but of course I could always lap it again. Just want to see if anyone has any other ideas. Is my CPU just a hot little bugger or is it something else?

Thanks in advance,

Alex

[Omarko]

could it be faulty sensors ?


EDIT: what are ur room temps ?

[[XC]Atomicpineapple]

I wouldnt worry, my 6400@3.3GHZ 1.525V hits 54 degrees full load under a decent water setup.

[Alex41290]

Well, I'm getting ~56*C idle on water at like 1.425v @ 3.2GHz...I don't think it's faulty sensors because the stock heatsink as well as my waterblock get very warm to the touch.

[crspyjohn]

I am running my at 1.325vcore @ 3.2ghz on a Big Typhoon and it is only 43-48 idle with side panel on and 55-60 load with side panel on. The temps would be lower if I open my side panel but I don't. I'm gonna redo my computer this weekend as when I built it I kinda rushed and its messy!

[[XC]Atomicpineapple]

Thats puzzling, you got the block tightened down hard? My MP-05 should beat a TDX but the difference is too big to be just block design. Your temp sensors could be off by a few degrees as well, (mobo temp reporting is never spot on). I'd lap the CPU again as some of the IHSs are really shoddy these days and if that doesnt improve matters, just mark it up as being a hot CPU.

[Alex41290]

Thats puzzling, you got the block tightened down hard? My MP-05 should beat a TDX but the difference is too big to be just block design. Your temp sensors could be off by a few degrees as well, (mobo temp reporting is never spot on). I'd lap the CPU again as some of the IHSs are really shoddy these days and if that doesnt improve matters, just mark it up as being a hot CPU.
Heh, I sincerely hope the last comment is not true. I suppose I can lap it again some time eventually, we'll see what happens.

Thanks for the help :)

[adamant415]

Seems like your temps are fine. On my watercooling setup I run between 42-50 degrees for load temp depending on how hot it is in my room. My room is small and heats up quite a bit. Those temps are according to TAT.

[Theli]

I am running my at 1.325vcore @ 3.2ghz on a Big Typhoon and it is only 43-48 idle with side panel on and 55-60 load with side panel on.
I get 46 idle and 50 load using the Scythe Ninja, it's pretty strange that idle-to-load makes so little difference.

As for Alex41290, your Vcore seems pretty high, wich C2D (E6300, E6400...) do you own?

[Alex41290]

Seems like your temps are fine. On my watercooling setup I run between 42-50 degrees for load temp depending on how hot it is in my room. My room is small and heats up quite a bit. Those temps are according to TAT.
Well, my temps would make sense...if my proc was above stock :(

Theli: In my sig it says :D (E6400)

[adamant415]

In the first post you said that you were getting about 46 load temp. I run my overclock with the voltage set at 1.325 so if you are running your processor at stock speed but have the same voltage as me then that would make sense to me that are temps are close to the same.

[Theli]

Well, my temps would make sense...if my proc was above stock :(

Theli: In my sig it says :D (E6400)
Oh, sorry about that. I had turned sigs off.

BTW, is it my imagination or does using the P5B deluxe pretty much always result in a hotter processor than running the P5W? Why is that?

[Alex41290]

In the first post you said that you were getting about 46 load temp. I run my overclock with the voltage set at 1.325 so if you are running your processor at stock speed but have the same voltage as me then that would make sense to me that are temps are close to the same.
Not really...3.4GHz vs 2.14GHz...that's quite a difference...I don't think we should be getting close to the same. If my temps were like mid 30's I would accept it, even though its a bit high. But it's not even really stable at 3.2GHz, and 3GHz is not much better. :(

Theli: Don't worry about it, I figured you had them off.

[Omarko]

If my temps were like mid 30's I would accept it, even though its a bit high.

sorry but how can you expect such low temps ???

EDIT : here are my temps LINK (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1751621&postcount=229)

[Alex41290]

sorry but how can you expect such low temps ???

EDIT : here are my temps LINK (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1751621&postcount=229)
For idle I don't think 30's is that off base. Well, I moreso just want to hit 3.2GHz stable and with temps that are not approaching dangerous for the processor.

[adamant415]

Well other setting in the bios might be holding you back from hitting your 3.2, and I'm not talking about your cpu vcore. What settings do you try to run for fsb vcore, nb vcore, sb vcore, etc?

Try these setting

cpu vcore-1.325
fsb term.-1.3
nb vcore-1.45
sb-lowest vcore which is 1.5 I believe off the top of my head
ICH-lowest vcore which 1.057 I believe off the top of my head

Run your ram at 1:1 crank it up too 400 mhz fsb and see if you have any luck.

Might not work maybe you just have a poor clocking chip.

[Bail_w]

concave IHS? i seen many people including my self the CPU's loaded temp are 20+ degree above idle. perphas a Lap job for the IHS?

[Alex41290]

concave IHS? i seen many people including my self the CPU's loaded temp are 20+ degree above idle. perphas a Lap job for the IHS?
Just got back from my second lap...of course, I might just suck at lapping and that could be the problem all along, but I don't think so.

Just tried 400x7 and it wouldn't boot either...375x8 wouldn't boot at any voltage (went up to 1.45v). Maybe it's the BIOS...just trying to go through every possible fault. I'll reflash the BIOS now and any more insight is welcome :)

[aamsel]

Do what someone else suggested here last week:
Pull the CMOS button battery, and jumper the CMOS reset jumper, also pull the power supply cables that attach to the motherboard. Leave everything off 10 minutes or so.
Then reconnect p/s cables, put the battery back in, and the CMOS jumper.
That way, every bit of current in the caps of the mobo will be drained, and you will have an accurate test, as if you had just pulled the motherboard out of the box for the first time.

It may not help, but it will ensure getting a valid "baseline" for your testing.

Andrew

[Alex41290]

Do what someone else suggested here last week:
Pull the CMOS button battery, and jumper the CMOS reset jumper, also pull the power supply cables that attach to the motherboard. Leave everything off 10 minutes or so.
Then reconnect p/s cables, put the battery back in, and the CMOS jumper.
That way, every bit of current in the caps of the mobo will be drained, and you will have an accurate test, as if you had just pulled the motherboard out of the box for the first time.

It may not help, but it will ensure getting a valid "baseline" for your testing.

Andrew
Thanks for the suggestion...however...

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/589/idletempskj1.jpg

*le sigh* Flashed to the newest BIOS (0711) and now it seems to be either reporting more accurately, or the combination of my lapping and ceramique application was that much better :D

Thanks for the help everyone, I'll probably end up reviving this when the temps go back up again :p: