AM2 X2 @ 2800Mhz vs Allendale @ 2800Mhz *User review*

[Riverna]

Hi,

here my user review. :toast:

http://people.freenet.de/05121984/DSC01972.JPG

Hier erstmal die beiden Systeme:

AMD AM2 X2 4200+ EE @ 2800Mhz
Asus M2N Sli Deluxe nForce 570SLI
2048MB Corsair PC2-800 KIT TWIN2X2048-6400C4PRO @ 400Mhz 4-4-4-8-1T
X1900XT @ 720/820Mhz Omega Driver

Intel Core 2 Duo Allendale E6300 @ 2800Mhz
Asus P5B Deluxe Intel P965
2048MB Corsair PC2-800 KIT TWIN2X2048-6400C4PRO @ 400Mhz 4-4-4-8
X1900XT @ 720/820Mhz Omega Driver

SuperPI 1M

AM2 = 30:121 sec
C2D = 19:672 sec

SuperPI 32M

AM2 = 24min 47.313 sec
C2D = 17min 46.875 sec

3DMark 2001

AM2 = 38.876 points
C2D = 44406 points

3DMark 2003

AM2 = 21.099 points
C2D = 22.631 points

3DMark 2005

AM2 = 13.057 points
C2D = 13.569 points

3DMark 2006

AM2 = 6602 points
C2D = 6841 points

Aquamark 3

AM2 = 113569 points
C2D = 131612 points

Renderbench

AM2 = 3min 35 sec
C2D = 3min 15 sec

benchs with 2970Mhz

MrH

AM2 = 3712 points
C2D = 5654 points

[Everest Ultimate]

AM2: read = 9852MB/s , write = 7622MB/s
C2D: read = 12998MB/s , write = 7766MB/s

Cinebench

AM2 = CPU1: 445 P - CPU2: 829P
C2D = CPU1: 499 P - CPU2: 942P

[-Acid-]

what cooling was used for the cpu,s

nice review bit more details needed tho

[afireinside]

You should have done game benchmarks, we all know c2d destroys benchmarks ;)

[[cTx]Philosophy]

It is a bit closer than Ida thought in 3dmarks though..

[ANP !!!]

Nice Results.

[Planet]

Nice results. Intel definitely has an advantage not to mention the Ocing capabilities are awesome.

[xlink]

def advantage to intel here, but not as bad as originally thought. AMD still is a viable option.

[m0da]

def advantage to intel here, but not as bad as originally thought. AMD still is a viable option.

sorry, but i really don't think.
this e6400 could definitely go a little further in oc and RAPE the 4400, not to mention the 4400 cant clock as well.

[ahmadmz]

amd still a viable option :P lol

[[XC] Teroedni]

Nice review:toast:

[punisher69]

im a amd fan and intel is winning (pauses) noooooooooooooooooooooo must resist urge to buy intel. lol anywayz thanks for the comparision

[Riverna]

what cooling was used for the cpu,s

nice review bit more details needed tho

I used the watercooling, For more details look in my sig


You should have done game benchmarks, we all know c2d destroys benchmarks ;)

Yes I know, but I dont have anymore games


Nice results. Intel definitely has an advantage not to mention the Ocing capabilities are awesome.


sorry, but i really don't think.
this e6400 could definitely go a little further in oc and RAPE the 4400, not to mention the 4400 cant clock as well.

Yes thats true, i want a preview with the same mhz and ramclock. The amd and the intel can run higher ;)

[XSAlliN]

You guys are missing a smal detail wich is real important:

AMD AM2 X2 4200+ EE @ 2800Mhz

A standard AM2 X2 4200+ can't do the same compared to EE version :nono:

[informal]

You guys are missing a smal detail wich is real important:

AMD AM2 X2 4200+ EE @ 2800Mhz

A standard AM2 X2 4200+ can't do the same compared to EE version :nono:

What?EE versions don't OC any better than the regular ones!They are more expensive because they work at lower (than usual) Votage.Get your facts str8.
As for OC,almost all RevF are nice OCers,especially 4200 and up.You can't hit 3Ghz+ on air,but you can pretty much hit 2.7-2.9,maybe even 3Ghz in some cases.

[DAK1640]

Nice review. good benchy selection..:toast:

[charlie]

nice comparo!

[pH(x)]

Now that's what I call being devoted to what you do :eek: :clap:

Nice one Riverno :toast:

[rob725]

AMD is extremely viable option (especially for gaming which is more gpu than cpu bound) when you factor in mobo cost. But, if you clock each to its max stable on the same cooling, cd2 will pull away even further. One of the best things about c2d is that it forced amd to slash prices in half.

[somwhere_there]

really nice review! shows that INTEL is faster clock per clock, but those 2k3, 2k5&5 scores were quite surprisng. with all that hype that buzzed around Conroe i thaught that INetl crushed AMD, but...life shows we still have competition :D
thanks!

[Fred_Pohl]

really nice review! shows that INTEL is faster clock per clock, but those 2k3, 2k5&5 scores were quite surprisng. with all that hype that buzzed around Conroe i thaught that INetl crushed AMD, but...life shows we still have competition :D
thanks!

C2D does crush X2 except in GPU limited game benches. Compare a E6400 at a typical 3.2G OC to an X2 at a typical 2.8G OC with SLI or Crossfire and see how the picture changes.

If all you care about are games, keep your P4, A64 or whatever and spend all your upgrade money on vidcards.

[Timmay]

sorry, but i really don't think.
this e6400 could definitely go a little further in oc and RAPE the 4400, not to mention the 4400 cant clock as well.

4200 mate, 1/2 the cache.

[xlink]

sorry, but i really don't think.
this e6400 could definitely go a little further in oc and RAPE the 4400, not to mention the 4400 cant clock as well.

last time I checked, the average person doesn't spend hours running benches and onyl cares if it is fast enough, not if it is in the top 1% of all systems :stick:

heck my Opteron 165(2.8+Ghz on stock voltage) system seemed a bit perkier than this c2d system. Might be harddrive performance though I came from a WD1500 raptor. but in the real world, while gaming and just day to day use, i dont' really see much diference.

and I was saying it was a viable option but not in all scenarios. If I had 6--$ to spend, I'd be leanign more towards x2 3800+ a 80$ board and some other midrange parts, not over the top, and a 250$ board. You have to realize, the total cost of ownership is not just the CPU, nor is performance.

[DAK1640]

Enlightening indeed...I need to see WCG output analysis.

Great job & thanks for taking the time to do that comparison.:toast:

[lowfat]

nice comparison...

[z3r0_pt]

Nice review! C2D on top :banana:

[menlatin]

last time I checked, the average person doesn't spend hours running benches and onyl cares if it is fast enough, not if it is in the top 1% of all systems :stick:

heck my Opteron 165(2.8+Ghz on stock voltage) system seemed a bit perkier than this c2d system. Might be harddrive performance though I came from a WD1500 raptor. but in the real world, while gaming and just day to day use, i dont' really see much diference.

and I was saying it was a viable option but not in all scenarios. If I had 6--$ to spend, I'd be leanign more towards x2 3800+ a 80$ board and some other midrange parts, not over the top, and a 250$ board. You have to realize, the total cost of ownership is not just the CPU, nor is performance.

GO BACK TO HARDFORUM!!!!!!!!

[dinos22]

GO BACK TO HARDFORUM!!!!!!!!
or Anandtech forum hehehehe :slap:

[xlink]

umm

I was speakign for the average user nothign wrong witht hat.

you realize that the average person isn't as stupid as us - they don't spend massive amounts of money for marignal speed boosts every 6 months.

[thunderstruck!]

umm

I was speakign for the average user nothign wrong witht hat.

you realize that the average person isn't as stupid as us - they don't spend massive amounts of money for marignal speed boosts every 6 months.
That's what I've been doing for the past year. First got a A64, then X2, now conroe. In December, I'm gonna fill my box with a high end mobo, psu, put in an r600 when it's out and be done for the rest of college.

[kiwi]

I think 3.2Ghz core2 duo overclock is bad, 3.5-3.6Ghz is ok and 3.8Ghz+ is awesome :) Air/water

Ofcourse I don't mean bad performance, already 3.2Ghz ownz :D

[GrimReaper]

nice :toast:

post some results of FPS in games :toast: :D

[dinos22]

umm

I was speakign for the average user nothign wrong witht hat.

you realize that the average person isn't as stupid as us - they don't spend massive amounts of money for marignal speed boosts every 6 months.
hehehe well you have a point there hahaha

[p0tter]

Good comparison, doubt you could tell the difference in everyday useage.

[[XC] leviathan18]

do we care about everyday usage nop we are not stocksystem or everyday system.org we care about very high oc benchs and benchs and benchs... and some about DC and benchs or gaming.....

for everyday use i have core duo laptop, for bench a kentsfield and for DC both LOL

[eXa]

thank you, this was really informative!

But why does C2D get so much higher read on the ram?