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SPQQKY
04-05-2003, 08:05 PM
I have read in the past about not being able to publish nForce2 board scores to the Orb and I am now encountering the same issue. I know there was a key to doing it, but can't find the thread. So what is the fix for the cpu speed variation problem? Thanks in advance.

Holst
04-06-2003, 02:18 AM
I dunno, im getting this allot now.

The only solution ive found is to clock down a bit :(

SKATAN
04-06-2003, 12:56 PM
this bios might help

1/29

but it could be a combination of multipliers and fsb

muzz
04-06-2003, 03:54 PM
It is strange for sure.....
I even downclocked my system once just to see what it would get.....
Couldn't publish it, yet right after that I OC'd the system and ran it... published NP.

SPQQKY
04-06-2003, 04:48 PM
Yes, it is strange. I published a score with my 2400+ OCed to a 2700+ (166x13) no problem, but the couple of runs I did at 182 and 185 FSB wouldn't publish. I have yet to run 3DMark again, but I will do a few and see if I can publish any of them. I am saving my results and publishing later, I wonder if this has any effect.

sjohnson
04-06-2003, 05:22 PM
While all the "Enhance For Benchmark" BIOS setting on my KD7-E seems to do is to bump the FSB by a small amount, I can't publish with that enabled. Disable Enhance For Benchmark and I can publish every time. It really does seem to be the clock detection by 3dmark that keeps a bench from being published.

MrLavender
04-07-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by SPQQKY
Yes, it is strange. I published a score with my 2400+ OCed to a 2700+ (166x13) no problem, but the couple of runs I did at 182 and 185 FSB wouldn't publish. I have yet to run 3DMark again, but I will do a few and see if I can publish any of them. I am saving my results and publishing later, I wonder if this has any effect. I don't think that's it. I always save + publish later, I get about 1 out of 4 or 5 runs that won't publish.

AFAIK it's just a chipset stability issue when pushed to the max. I've read a post from MrIcee where he said the same thing has happened to him b4 on VIA boards, but it seems to be much worse on the NF2.

No solution that I know of. :(

Downclocking a bit will probably help, and depending on your system might actually get you a higher score. I can complete 3dMark @ 11.5x215 no problem, but that seems to cause errors in some part of the system because my score actually goes DOWN from 11.5x213! I think it's my cpu cooling, I know that at lower multipliers 217fsb works fine.

Kunaak
04-07-2003, 08:06 PM
I know this is odd, but I noticed when I run cas 2-2-2-6 it works every time.

but if I run cas 2-2-2-7 or more, it starts to go crazy.

Ruantic
04-07-2003, 09:24 PM
GRR finally break 17k and i can't publish it, first time I've had problem with it to:mad:

MrLavender
04-08-2003, 03:46 AM
Originally posted by Ruantic
GRR finally break 17k and i can't publish it, first time I've had problem with it to:mad: I feel your pain, happened on my first 17k run as well. :( Just keep trying is the only advice I can offer.

SPQQKY
04-09-2003, 03:15 AM
Downclocking a bit will probably help, and depending on your system might actually get you a higher score. I can complete 3dMark @ 11.5x215 no problem, but that seems to cause errors in some part of the system because my score actually goes DOWN from 11.5x213! I think it's my cpu cooling, I know that at lower multipliers 217fsb works fine.

I have the same problem, I could easily run 3DMark at 211 x 11.5 but I got lower scores. I was able to complete a few runs at 204 x 11.5 and publish them. But at same gfx clock speeds, I would get varying scores. Sometimes Car chase would vary by 6 fps. At least I was able to publish all of them, but I only saved the best run.

MrLavender
04-09-2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by SPQQKY
Sometimes Car chase would vary by 6 fps. That's exactly what happens to me, on probably 50% of my runs the very first test, Car Chase Low Detail, is 6-8 fps lower than it should be. I can't see what's causing that, if I just restart the computer and run it again at exactly the same settings then next time it might be fine.

I haven't had time to test whether it does the same thing at lower cpu/fsb settings. I know it's not the gfx card artifacting or anything because it still happens even if that's not overclocked.

Weird (and annoying!). :confused:

Chong345
04-13-2003, 01:54 AM
Yeah this publishing thing is getting on my nerves for sure. I just got an extra 700 points on my score to bring me up to 21,837 but I can't publish. I could be in 6th right now but instead I just benched for nothing.

Chong

MrIcee
04-13-2003, 02:46 PM
Joey:)

Thats why I gave up trying to publish scores in 2001 some time ago w/Nforce 2 boards. I have scores that would put me in the top tier but I cannot publish them. I know how you feel with wasted time and effort:(

Randi:D

Chong345
04-13-2003, 05:33 PM
Randi,
I was wondering why you stopped benching. I remember when your scores were not getting published and actaully it was the first thing I thought of when I realized I could not publish.

Joey

macci
04-13-2003, 09:44 PM
I haven't had almsost any problems as long as I keep the FSB and CPU speed at fully stable level (use SuperPi 4M to test the stability). At this point the limit is around 2.65GHz for CPU (watercooled 1800+) and 236MHz FSB.

Zeus
04-13-2003, 09:46 PM
I know my score's aren't that high, but i'm yet to encounter the first score that won't publish.
Mind you, i also have a Nforce mobo.
Not sure if stability has anything to do with it, i've done runs with a more or less instable systems (Vdd too low, didn't know then) but it let me publish every time.
Strange, btw, the orb has banned a number of drivers from publishing for some political reason....

Chong345
04-13-2003, 09:49 PM
There was an article written about the ORB not letting certain drivers used with nVidia cards to publish. I think they called these drivers "3dmark optimized" and I guess they want to standardize the driver sets. I think you have to use WHQL or something.

Chong

Chong345
04-13-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by macci
I haven't had almsost any problems as long as I keep the FSB and CPU speed at fully stable level (use SuperPi 4M to test the stability). At this point the limit is around 2.65GHz for CPU (watercooled 1800+) and 236MHz FSB.

macci,
I'll give super pi to 4m a run. I'll see how it goes. Its just strange cause I was actually running 3D in loops almost at 2.8 GHz. I didn't have any issues. I was getting minor artifacts however.

Chong

Iolao
04-13-2003, 11:32 PM
you can try setting cpu throtthlin to 12.5% to start. I remember I was having the same problems with that option disabled and when using 12.5% things got better (but sometimes it fails even this way)

MrLavender
05-04-2003, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by MrLavender
That's exactly what happens to me, on probably 50% of my runs the very first test, Car Chase Low Detail, is 6-8 fps lower than it should be. I can't see what's causing that, if I just restart the computer and run it again at exactly the same settings then next time it might be fine.

I haven't had time to test whether it does the same thing at lower cpu/fsb settings. I know it's not the gfx card artifacting or anything because it still happens even if that's not overclocked.

Weird (and annoying!). :confused: Some more thoughts on this.

When using memtest86 to check memory bandwidth I have noticed that on about 50% of reboots it reports a score about 60MB/s lower than it should be. E.g. at 200MHz DC 6-2-2-2 I get either 1551 MB/s or 1612 MB/s. See this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=135888#post135888).

At first I thought it was the program, but thinking about it a 60MB/s bandwidth drop fits in well with the drop in Car Chase scores...

Could it be that the board is sometimes setting some timing incorrectly? Does this happen on other nf2 boards apart from the NF7?

SPQQKY
05-04-2003, 06:43 AM
I found that as well, MickeyMouse. I get better scores and I can publish them as well. I just broke 15.3k with my Ti4200.

MrLavender
05-04-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by MickeyMouse
yeah, but i found out if you run 2k1 once then right after close the app reopen 2k1 and run again you get a higher score and no car chase bug. Ah, must try that. Cheers!

SPQQKY
06-01-2003, 08:06 AM
Hmmm.....I just got my best run ever on 3DMark2001se and I cannot publish it! I did 3 full runs making sure everything was to par and none of them would publish. My best was 16223 with my TI4200 and I really wanted to publish it, but no go!!!! :(

SPQQKY
06-01-2003, 08:06 AM
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majormav
06-01-2003, 12:01 PM
SPQQkY i had a prob a while ago and what seemed to help was to disable thermal throttling on the cpu although i still occasionally get the odd one that dosent publish even my highest score isnt publishable