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afireinside

08-09-2006, 01:21 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/zero-IGN/IMG_0792Small.jpg
(just a quick 640*480 resize from 1600*1200, the real pics look better but sporks FTP is down and I have nowhere to host 1600*1200 pics)

Thanks mushkin!

It looks and feels just like my old powerstreams, but modular. It's made by TOPOWER so it better :p: It looks REALLY nice, hopefully I can prove all the negative reviews wrong.

Anyone know how I'd go about reading the voltages on both 12v rails if rail fusion doesn't activate?

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 05:30 PM

It looks and feels just like my old powerstreams, but modular. It's made by TOPOWER so it better :p: It looks REALLY nice, hopefully I can prove all the negative reviews wrong.

Anyone know how I'd go about reading the voltages on both 12v rails if rail fusion doesn't activate?

if you crack open the supply you will see there isnt even actually 2 seperate rails at all. there is actually one rail split by the pcb you see attached to the sink. and then when too much amps are drawn then it puts them back to one.

there is two VR's on that pcb but im unsure of what they do exactly.

ive already opened up my psu and replaced the primary caps with rubycons, and replaced all the secondary caps with rubycons, nichicons, and samxons.

i also added ac line filtering as the ac line filtering that is stock is well.....pretty much non existant.

aside from that, its a very nice looking psu.

it wont be replacing my true control though until i can completely replace all the caps with new low esr chemicons.

one thing that also is negative is that the psu has no feedback rails at all. it has places for them, but doesnt have them, im gonna try to put them in eventually

afireinside

08-09-2006, 06:06 PM

Yeah I read the review jonnyguru did on it and I'm afraid to hook it to my AM2/x1900xt rig to test :(

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 06:10 PM

Thanks Mushkin,
But this is going on shelf until I build some sorta internet computer.

I got mine today and decided to test it in my main rig.
Watercooled intel 550 and x850xt, 4x512mb ddr2 pc4200 pqi (@ 398mhz 5/4/3/12), p5wd2 premium. Turned on just fine but when the computer goes into a game it turns off, lights stay on and fans keep spinning.

Geuss its going on the shelf.

EDIT: Seems without overclock its just fine.

[XC] leviathan18

08-09-2006, 06:45 PM

i love the way my mem looks but i cant test it LOL

Shift

08-09-2006, 06:51 PM

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 07:07 PM

So wait, that Mushkin 550w modular PSU sucks? Wow that's kinda disheartening, I was going to buy one of those...

Anyways ways RAM arrives tomorrow:banana:

Just to clarify, this is the PSU everyone recieved right
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817812002 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817812002)

there is better psu's on the market if your looking for good power.

if your looking for great looks, the mushkin supply has it. it really is a great looking supply.

EDIT: if your willing to do some cap mods, and add some ac line filtering though you can increase perfomance. ive decided not to sell mine, and just mod it instead. replacing all the cheap crap cap jenpo and asia x capacitors.

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 07:16 PM

Yeah I dont have the parts to mod this thing and dont think that something like a PSU should need to be modded.

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 07:19 PM

Yeah I dont have the parts to mod this thing and dont think that something like a PSU should need to be modded.

well, even high end psu's dont use respectable brand caps. for example, the powerstream series uses teapo's.

only psu ive seen that has had all rubycon, nichicon and united chemicon caps has been a psu from an old hp server.

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 07:22 PM

Ah well my powerstream 520 runs my system perfectly so I dont see a need to drop new caps in. :P

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 07:34 PM

Ah well my powerstream 520 runs my system perfectly so I dont see a need to drop new caps in. :P

well, teapos have a habit of venting.

http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=655&highlight=bad+teapo

take a look around. mention of bad teapos everywhere.

Shift

08-09-2006, 07:51 PM

there is better psu's on the market if your looking for good power.

if your looking for great looks, the mushkin supply has it. it really is a great looking supply.

EDIT: if your willing to do some cap mods, and add some ac line filtering though you can increase perfomance. ive decided not to sell mine, and just mod it instead. replacing all the cheap crap cap jenpo and asia x capacitors.

Yeah the that Mushkin PSU looks fantastic! I also went ahead and read jonnyGURU's review on it, and the Ultra X2 did better than the Mushin:eek:
I was just looking for a nice PSU under a hundred bucks, and I thought that Mushkin fit the bill, oh well...
Also I don't want to do mods as I'll probably blow up the PSU, or something like that. Better to play it safe and get a good PSU.

cadaveca

08-09-2006, 08:11 PM

IT ran my x1900crossfire @ stock OK. 12v dropped to 11.2, 5v rail strong, 3.3 dipped under 3.2v. Singlecard, single gpu should fare fine, with a modest overclocked. Very good looking...

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 08:17 PM

IT ran my x1900crossfire @ stock OK. 12v dropped to 11.2, 5v rail strong, 3.3 dipped under 3.2v. Singlecard, single gpu should fare fine, with a modest overclocked. Very good looking...

11.2v?!?!? ouch.

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 08:18 PM

Well it can't handle an x850xt and an intel 550 at load with a light OC :(
11.2 is dangerous though for ur components by a large margin.

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 08:22 PM

Well it can't handle an x850xt and an intel 550 at load with a light OC :(
11.2 is dangerous though for ur components by a large margin.

did you use a dmm to measure the rails though? maybe it cut out for another reason?

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 08:31 PM

I'm rehooking up to do just that.

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 08:32 PM

I'm rehooking up to do just that.

make sure to post up the results.

think you can watch the rail fusion light to see if it lights up when its supposed to.

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 08:37 PM

Yeah its late so no digi and I want to get off this crap comp and rehook powerstream in a minute but...
I'm getting the light on in the back and 11.6 on the VOM when the comp crashes.

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 08:40 PM

Yeah its late so no digi and I want to get off this crap comp and rehook powerstream in a minute but...
I'm getting the light on in the back and 11.6 on the VOM when the comp crashes.

hmmm....

well, when im finished modding it hopefully it will be able to run my rig. vmodded x800, vcore at 1.9v and now 6 hdd's should test it decently. a 550w psu should be able to handle that.

afireinside

08-09-2006, 08:40 PM

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 08:44 PM

I don't want a PSU that ever goes under 12v.

well, down to 11.4v is within spec.

but i do have to agree that having above spec rails is preferable. and since there is no vsense lines you cant even sense mod it:mad:

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-09-2006, 09:10 PM

just looking at things, and it looks like a cheaper, lower quality modstream. both made by top power, but if you look in both, you can see the modstream uses overall better componets.

cadaveca

08-09-2006, 09:50 PM

11.2v?!?!? ouch.
It's actually not all that bad. Considering the load i put on it...

Very strange behavior. Ran cards @ stock, Opty 170 @ 280x10 1.425v, 2x1GB Mushkin Redline, CFX3200, 2xHDD's, DVD-RW, floppy, phys-x, a couple of 12v fans...passed all 3dmarks. Re-ran '06 w/ DMM hooked up to get readings. PSU DID NOT SHUT OFF.:confused:

n00b 0f l337

08-09-2006, 09:56 PM

Which means it doesnt auto-shutoff once it passes tolerance zones. Great....

cadaveca

08-09-2006, 10:13 PM

Well, i doubt that '06 actually uses all of what these cards have, especially considering my cpu speed. I'll have to pop the top and measure the 12v properly, as I have NO IDEA as to which of the "rails" I measured.

But do I really want to hook it back up to my system?

Tempted to try to squeeze my Thermaltake into the shell, it looks so good. Nice colouration on the fan too, dammit. Mushkin should give the casing designer a raise, and fire the person who chose the innards!

Umm, no ASIA-X main caps here folks, as in Jonnyguru's review. Ya guys wanna take a look and see what's in yours? Mine's about 1/2 and 1/2.

afireinside

08-10-2006, 01:43 AM

Tempted to try to squeeze my Thermaltake into the shell, it looks so good. Nice colouration on the fan too, dammit. Mushkin should give the casing designer a raise, and fire the person who chose the innards!

That would be our buddies at TOPOWER :(

fhpchris

08-10-2006, 02:05 AM

Why even bother with that PSU?

Just get an OCZ/FSU 700w at that price range, or Zippy/PP&C if you can spend 300-400$

majestik

08-10-2006, 07:27 AM

My G.Skill prize arrived today. Its super-sweeeeet, pics when I get home.

Too bad I still have to wait for a mobo

jonnyGURU

08-10-2006, 08:17 AM

Which means it doesnt auto-shutoff once it passes tolerance zones. Great....

Actually, that's very typical.

There's OVER-voltage protection in most power supplies, but not under. Because typically, if a peripheral is getting under-voltage it's just going to stop working properly, where as over-voltage can physically damage components.

cadaveca

08-10-2006, 08:25 AM

Why even bother with that PSU?

Just get an OCZ/FSU 700w at that price range, or Zippy/PP&C if you can spend 300-400$
One, it was free...

Two, it looks good...

three...12v rails have pots.:rolleyes:

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-10-2006, 10:36 AM

One, it was free...

Two, it looks good...

three...12v rails have pots.:rolleyes:

have you actually tried adjusting the rails via those pots though? i have and it didnt seem to do a damn thing.

when i get a chance im going to buy all new caps and create some better AC line filtering.

what i dont like is its advertised as a dual rail psu which it isnt. its just one 12vrail, a simply examination of the pcb will tell you that.

Revv23

08-10-2006, 05:18 PM

i got my g.skill prize today too, this set is awesome, G.skill hooked us up with mirror finish heatspreaders on these, they look great.

Now i need a conroe and a mobo for it. Oh and i fried my x800 today too so a new videocard.

oops lol.

Anyways, pictures once i get my camera back from the shop, these spreaders really look great. (usually the HZ is black iirc.)

Duonger

08-11-2006, 10:06 AM

Zardokk

08-11-2006, 10:12 AM

My G.Skill RAM got here today. Too bad it's gonna be a while before I can test it...I don't have the cash for a new AM2 or Conroe rig right now.

Charles Wirth

08-11-2006, 11:17 AM

Thanks Tom, still a nice prize that I would be happy with.

Mr. Popo

08-11-2006, 11:35 AM

The HP-550 is awesome! sure it's not "Extreme" but a great PSU.

Zardokk

08-11-2006, 12:31 PM

Yeah, the HP-550 is a nice PSU. 40 amps on the dual 12v rails, 550 total watts...that's pretty good. It's no GameXStream, but it's definately not a bad PSU. I wouldn't mind winning one :).

n00b 0f l337

08-11-2006, 12:47 PM

40 amps on the dual 12v rails
It's 28mps on the dual 12v rails.

Zardokk

08-11-2006, 04:21 PM

Really? The spec sheet I read said 20 amps on each rail...if there are only 28 amps total...that's not fantastic. Certainly not great for a high-end gaming rig.

cadaveca

08-11-2006, 05:03 PM

i would like to defend the hp-550 psu. this unit was built as an entry level psu. i was not intended as a OC unit. from the reviews we have seen we will make some modifications to address the concerns of the users and reviewers. but please keep in mind, this is a entry level unit. we priced it 79.99-99.99 for this reason and called it HP not XP.

Thank you
Tom

The only real complaint I have about this PSU is the 24-pin connector. I don't know why, but it's awfully hard for me to plug mine in. Cabling is a wee bit short, but i can understand that it was meant for mid-tower or smaller cases.

I tried stripping my system down to 1 X1900, opty 170 @ 2.8ghz(1.425), 2x sata drives, dvd, floppy, 2x1gb Redlines, and still saw the 12v drop to 11.53v, but @ 11a for the card, about the same for CPU, plus mobo, etc, that's still quite a load, albeit not a very large one.

I love the psu...really...dunno why...it looks great, and the wrap on the wires is great(all black)...i just wish i had a system that it was worthy of powering...and i don't. Doesn't make it a bad PSU.

afireinside

08-11-2006, 07:10 PM

Really? The spec sheet I read said 20 amps on each rail...if there are only 28 amps total...that's not fantastic. Certainly not great for a high-end gaming rig.

20a each rail but only 336 watts total on the 12v so 28a max.

It's an AMAZING looking PSU but performance wise it's only useful for a stock rig or mid range parts.

perkam

08-11-2006, 08:35 PM

I have little problem with the psu...more with the rating...same as jG.

If they had rated it a 480W or 450W psu...28A would seem impressive. The only 550w PSUs I know with such low amperage are brands that i wouldn't want to name here in fear of giving it a bad name.

In any event, should power a 7600GT system just fine.

Perkam

InSanCen

08-11-2006, 10:09 PM

As has been said, this is clearly not marketed as a high-end PSU, the XP range is the high-end.

Mushkin were also decent enough to give some away as prizes. You can be sure they'll think twice about doing that next time after reading this.

If you want to pick faults, ok, just bear in mind that you shouldn't be comparing it to High-end PSU's that cost a lot more. Would you be happy to run this in a non-clocked rig? I've read johnnyguru's review, and I would. and that's what it is intended for.

Good luck on replacing the cap's though WSP, let us know how it goes, and what it costs when you're done.

remember, Apples to Apples folks.

n00b 0f l337

08-12-2006, 09:46 AM

Since when did criticism kill the cat, if anything Mushkin Rep should read this and relay to other departments on how to improve to fit into this style of forum.

JuanFlaiter

08-12-2006, 12:29 PM

My prize arrived too. Thanks Mushkin! :)

Shift

08-12-2006, 01:15 PM

Mines arrived on Thursady, but I missed it:slap:
It came again on Firday and I got it. Thans G.Skill and XS!:woot:

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-15-2006, 07:47 PM

Since when did criticism kill the cat, if anything Mushkin Rep should read this and relay to other departments on how to improve to fit into this style of forum.

indeed, and it seems as if mushkin will be modifying the psu from the critism they recieved, which will give them a better product.

personally i feel the AC filtering and low end caps is the biggest short comings.once i replace/add to those areas it will be replacing my truepower most likely.

and has any figured out what the pots do yety?

cadaveca

08-15-2006, 08:19 PM

Set the cut-off for the "Rail Fusion", maybe?:stick:

m0da

08-15-2006, 08:39 PM

There was a misunderstanding between Mushkin and XS.
Mushkin though there would only be 4 prizes total, but 8 was the final number. We should all be happy that Mushkin still provided for all 8 of us.
From reviews, this is a nice entry-level psu, so stop bashing on them.

hehe, I'm sure this'll be able to power a tec ;)

[cTx]Philosophy

08-18-2006, 05:08 PM

My prize arrived from Xtreem today, thankz go out to kev, Xtreem team, and ofcourse XtremeSystems.org and fugger for this awesome chance for a poor old fella like myself to win something so kick arse, I was gonna write a review on my kit, but after hitting 225 @ 2.5-3-3-8 my cpu was giving me a fit running 1:1, So i kicked it down to the 180 multi and right now there running @ 285 3-4-3-7 which im pleased with, the pi times are sick slow thats why im not posting my pi times, you guys are used to seeing conroe times and I cant give anything even close to that, so as of now ill keep these little shots all to myself.. muahahaaaaa

Once again thanks to XS for the competition and thanks to xtreem and Kev for the awesome kit, you guys rawkkk!!!!!!!