Biostar TForce P965 Deluxe - 530FSB 1:1 4-4-3-4

[The Stilt]

After few crappy bios versions Biostar finally managed to fix the overclockability issue(s) of TForce P965 Deluxe board.

The previous versions couldn´t run over 405FSB no matter what setting were used.

With the newest beta bios the problem pretty much... dissapears :D


http://www.armada.fi/TForce_P965/TForce_530FSB_Sync_SPI8M-2.jpg


CPU-Z validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=110003)

Tomorrow I´ll try the 32M calculation and higher frequencies.
Now it is the right time to take couple glasses of Glenfiddich 21yo ;)

The stock MCH heatsink of the board is pretty insufficient.
IIRC the same heatsink was used on Asus A7N8X (nF2) boards, so go and figure what I mean when I say insufficient...

I replaced the original chipset heatsink with MCX-159R from Swiftech.
The MCX-159R is barely warm while the original gave me burn marks with 1.7V voltage.

The mosfets of cpu power cirquit can also run pretty hot if you are using water cooling or heatsink which have vertically mounted fan (like Tuniq Tower 120, Scythe Ninja, CNPS9500 etc) (= no airflow for the mosfets).

My Fluke IR thermometer displayed 67c temperature with 1.45V vcore while the cpu was in idle state. After adding a fan for the mosfets, their temperature dropped to 42c (loaded).

I´m sure that Biostar knows this problem since there are mounting holes for the mosfet heatsink.

[K.I.T.T.]

Nice going!!

No vMods either?

[The Stilt]

Nice going!!

No vMods either?

Only the DDR2 overvoltage jumper mod.
I´m using 2.35V VDDR2.

VMCH is set to 1.68V of the maximum 1.86V VMCH ;)
No need for higher voltage.

[berk]

Hot Damn!!!
Looks like a strong contender for my 6600 (when it arrives),i was looking at the MSI 975x power up aswell,but this ones looking too good. :D

Good temps too, if you look around.

[Rol-Co]

wow
verry good board 530 1:1 is awesome, now i'm sure i wanna try this board.

.

[NiCKE^]

Are they available for sale in Finland Stilt?

[kiwi]

Wow, this looks even better than DS3 now :)

What is that ddr2 jumper mod? Just vdimm mod or?

If I remember right 2.2V was max without mods

[The Stilt]

Are they available for sale in Finland Stilt?

Sure.

[The Stilt]

Wow, this looks even better than DS3 now :)

What is that ddr2 jumper mod? Just vdimm mod or?

If I remember right 2.2V was max without mods

The DDR2 voltage can be adjusted up to 2.2V without mods.
I´ll post the DDR2 VDD jumper mod tomorrow.

There is no need to solder on motherboard itself ;)

[Pt1t]

After few crappy bios versions Biostar finally managed to fix the overclockability issue(s) of TForce P965 Deluxe board.

The previous versions couldn´t run over 405FSB no matter what setting were used.

With the newest beta bios the problem pretty much... dissapears :D


http://www.armada.fi/TForce_P965/TForce_530FSB_Sync_SPI8M-2.jpg


CPU-Z validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=110003)

Tomorrow I´ll try the 32M calculation and higher frequencies.
Now it is the right time to take couple glasses of Glenfiddich 21yo ;)

The stock MCH heatsink of the board is pretty insufficient.
IIRC the same heatsink was used on Asus A7N8X (nF2) boards, so go and figure what I mean when I say insufficient...

I replaced the original chipset heatsink with MCX-159R from Swiftech.
The MCX-159R is barely warm while the original gave me burn marks with 1.7V voltage.

The mosfets of cpu power cirquit can also run pretty hot if you are using water cooling or heatsink which have vertically mounted fan (like Tuniq Tower 120, Scythe Ninja, CNPS9500 etc) (= no airflow for the mosfets).

My Fluke IR thermometer displayed 67c temperature with 1.45V vcore while the cpu was in idle state. After adding a fan for the mosfets, their temperature dropped to 42c (loaded).

I´m sure that Biostar knows this problem since there are mounting holes for the mosfet heatsink.


how much fsb did you win when you changed nb heatsink ?

[The Stilt]

how much fsb did you win when you changed nb heatsink ?

Don´t know really.
I changed it before I started to test the maximum fsb.

[Harshal]

Nice Results... looking better then Asus and dats something when its intel.

[Pt1t]

Don´t know really.
I changed it before I started to test the maximum fsb.

i ran spi 1M @ 480*8 but not higher with stock nb "cooler". tomorow , i ll watercool or waterchill it :stick:

[althes]

very nice

[The Stilt]

Nice Results... looking better then Asus and dats something when its intel.

Well, Biostar is pretty much DFI ;)

[Pt1t]

Well, Biostar is pretty much DFI ;)

Did you try and test 667 ddr2 desynch with oc ?

[The Stilt]

Did you try and test 667 ddr2 desynch with oc ?

Not yet.

[Pt1t]

Not yet.

Test , ... , i have some problem with it , i advertised my contact for bios.

[Supertim0r]

wow, nice job :)

how's the vdroop ?

[PcCI2iminal]

very impressive


The stock MCH heatsink of the board is pretty insufficient.


Bios Star,Gigabyte DS3,DFI Infinity..they don`t know how good is the board and still usin crappy cooling for NB

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6776/nbhsds3vo1.jpg

anyway keep going

congrats

:clap:

[AzraelDarkangel]

I was going to use this board for a computer I was putting together for my gf. I may use it for myself now as well!

[JNav89GT]

flashed to the 0803 bios and fixed my "can't manually set Cas issue"
got it at 400fsb 1.3825v 6300 retail on water ram 1:1 4-4-4-auto
will tease it out a bit and keep pushing.
happy with the board so far. Chipset does need fan though if your not aircooing cpu!

[Shpoon]

Oh shat...that looks like a board with potential...

[Pt1t]

The DDR2 voltage can be adjusted up to 2.2V without mods.
I´ll post the DDR2 VDD jumper mod tomorrow.

There is no need to solder on motherboard itself ;)

:banana: , it s tomorrow :D

[majestik]

530fsb on a board with onboard-video. I think hell just froze over :D

[Pt1t]

530fsb on a board with onboard-video. I think hell just froze over :D

onboard-video :nono:

[caligula]

Great post Stilt, righr when I was about to buy the Gigacrap board and start the bios saga again, as Gigabyte does it always with their crappy engineeers.
I will definitely go for the Biostar board.

[majestik]

onboard-video :nono:
Sorry I was mistaken
http://image2.sina.com.cn/IT/h/2006-07-21/5a066849f09c3cc3b2e6140c5e6b6217.jpg
From the top, it looked like a VGA connector

[The Stilt]

:banana: , it s tomorrow :D

Indeed.

http://www.armada.fi/TForce_P965/TForce_P965_VDDR2_Mod.jpg

Lower the resistance to raise the voltage.
The DDR2 voltage reading in bios is way off, so use multimeter to measure the actual voltage.

At first it may seem that the voltage is raising quite slow when lowering the resistance. However at 2.3V+ the voltage is raising VERY fast so lower the resistance VERY slowly. The memory voltage can be measured from the coil nearest to the ram slots.

[ent]

Strangest Vmod I've seen so far :D Board is looking very sweet. Stilt how much does it cost in Finland? (I can't find it in any US/European online shop :().

[The Stilt]

Strangest Vmod I've seen so far :D Board is looking very sweet. Stilt how much does it cost in Finland? (I can't find it in any US/European online shop :().

It costs 127€ (VAT 0%).

[berk]

How about using a DDR booster?...too risky?

[The Stilt]

How about using a DDR booster?...too risky?

Is there a DDR booster for DDR2?

[berk]

Ahhh..crap,my bad.:(
Still migrating my brain slowly to the new platforms.:D

[Owen1978]

I thought Hipro said its compatible with both, otherwise it would'nt be worth it for him to develop such a product thats only works with dead-end ddr.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42220&page=44

[Pt1t]

How about using a DDR booster?...too risky?


Why use that , mod is very easy :D

[trojan]

Does anyone know of any UK retailers that stock Biostar boards? 530fsb, mightily impressive :)

[DaWaN]

Ordered one for just 112 euros :toast:

[K404]

Does anyone know of any UK retailers that stock Biostar boards? 530fsb, mightily impressive :)

I wouldnt mind finding a U.K. supplier either

[berk]

Same here^
I dont know anything about volt modding either btw.:)
EDIT:looks like Hipro's does support DDR2 :toast:

[wa77ss]

So can we get this board in the USA yet or no ?

[Amey]

530 FSB !!!! damn that is awesome.

How much does this board cost approximately ?

[nachthymnen]

Amazing, it's WR FSB?:eek:

@ DarkLord:
In a German shop it's sell @ 129Euro:)

[Chri$ch]

Amazing, it's WR FSB?:eek:

@ DarkLord:
In a German shop it's sell @ 129Euro:)
118€ ;)

http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a209793.html

[Fr3ak]

That board looks good. I was always more than happy with the Biostar boards I owned so far :)
Would be interesting to see how it compares speedwise to a DS3 or P5W. High FSB aint everything..

[Pt1t]

That board looks good. I was always more than happy with the Biostar boards I owned so far :)
Would be interesting to see how it compares speedwise to a DS3 or P5W. High FSB aint everything..


i ll have ds4 soon , to compare both board.

[wa77ss]

I have never actually owned a Biostar board before, this might be my first :D

[ZBr]

That board looks good. I was always more than happy with the Biostar boards I owned so far :)
Would be interesting to see how it compares speedwise to a DS3 or P5W. High FSB aint everything..
and comparo to MSI 975X Platinum :D

Cmon UPS...bring...to ME NOWWWW :yepp: heeh

[The Stilt]

SuperPI 32M at 530FSB is easy :D

http://www.armada.fi/TForce_P965/TForce_P965_530FSB_SPI32M.jpg

[Zulusman]

If biostar can change bios to do 530fsb, than maybe asus can do sommethink similar. ~500 pn P5W DH would be gr8. I`m talking without moding.
Nice job The Stilt.

This is randomly picked ?

[The Stilt]

If biostar can change bios to do 530fsb, than maybe asus can do sommethink similar. ~500 pn P5W DH would be gr8. I`m talking without moding.
Nice job The Stilt.

This is randomly picked ?

I have actually two of these boards, but I haven´t even tested the other one.

[kiwi]

Thanks for mod, pics are great as always :)
Even children from kindergarten would understand them :p:

[pcmoddingmy]

SuperPI 32M at 530FSB is easy :D
Nice one there.
What was the VDIMM at? And what's the max possible with the mod?
Since the TForce 590 SLI Deluxe also has similar 2.3V jumper, do you think the same mod can be applied to the mobo?

Btw, I'll be getting a TForce P965 pretty soon... :toast:

[The Stilt]

Nice one there.
What was the VDIMM at? And what's the max possible with the mod?
Since the TForce 590 SLI Deluxe also has similar 2.3V jumper, do you think the same mod can be applied to the mobo?

Btw, I'll be getting a TForce P965 pretty soon... :toast:

The same mod should work with all Biostar boards with similar overvoltage jumper. The original resistance should be checked before doing it thou.

The maximum voltage?
Enough :D

[lowfat]

sounds like a great board. Can't say I've seen much for Biostar boards for sale here in Canada though.

[Zulusman]

Ahh, forgot to mention the MOD - impresive !!
Any other mods, simply as hell ??

[tuoho]

Nice board indeed with bios update. Gosh i should have bought this board when i was deciding what i'am gonna buy P5B or this one.

[mckennaiii]

wonder when newegg will get this board in stock?

[dinos22]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

what about second board?

does this motherboard use sub 1:1 dividers

[Pt1t]

The same mod should work with all Biostar boards with similar overvoltage jumper. The original resistance should be checked before doing it thou.

The maximum voltage?
Enough :D


How did you do to have 6-7 multi in cpuz with your E6700 , i presume you modded bios to boot with 7X multi ?

And what are your bios setting to do 533mhz fsb ?

[dinos22]

RAM dividers have you got them under 1:1 or no?

hey Pt1t what's your mobo like with new bios stilt is using

[The Stilt]

How did you do to have 6-7 multi in cpuz with your E6700 , i presume you modded bios to boot with 7X multi ?

And what are your bios setting to do 533mhz fsb ?

I´m using E6700 ES B0 stepping which has unlocked multiplier.
The multiplier can be selected from the bios.

If I boot with 10x multiplier CPU-Z will display 6x - 10x multiplier.
If I boot with 7x multiplier CPU-Z will display 6x - 7x multiplier just like in those screenshots.

[Pt1t]

I´m using E6700 ES B0 stepping which has unlocked multiplier.
The multiplier can be selected from the bios.

If I boot with 10x multiplier CPU-Z will display 6x - 10x multiplier.
If I boot with 7x multiplier CPU-Z will display 6x - 7x multiplier just like in those screenshots.


Where in the bios ??? , mine ES step 5 got also unlocked multiplier.

And the others setting ?

do you use tforce oc software to do + 500 mhz or other one ?, because it s max 500 in bios.

Did you change bios since the last you gave me ?

[Pt1t]

RAM dividers have you got them under 1:1 or no?

hey Pt1t what's your mobo like with new bios stilt is using

The Stilt used mine bios , 08-03 , but he changed some ram timming ,new memtest ,
for fsb i think it s the same.
My board can do Pi @ 8*490 , ram 1:1 in aircooling. But i cant do more than 500mhz , with 6X 7X ... . Maybe it s because he waterccoled the chipset, mine is stock cooled with a7n8x 's like heatsinck :D

[dinos22]

is this a chipset limitation or what for 965 not to be able to run below 1:1 ratio :stick:

[Phosphate]

Well, Biostar is pretty much DFI ;)

Back when I was looking at 939 and AM2 for a new build I was actually shocked to see the awesome OCing reviews their $75 754 and 939 Tforce boards were getting. Glad to see them delivering on the Core 2 duo side of things also.

[mine]

european users

there are 2 interesting threads

here in german :

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=255386

here in french :

http://www.overclocking-masters.com/forum/Topic-de-la-carte-mere-Biostar-Tforce-Core-2-duo,t3427.htm

thanx to bodo666

thanx to Stilt

now waiting for the "clouded in mystery" Foxconn 965

[Pt1t]

european users

there are 2 interesting threads

here in german :

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=255386

here in french :

http://www.overclocking-masters.com/forum/Topic-de-la-carte-mere-Biostar-Tforce-Core-2-duo,t3427.htm

thanx to bodo666

thanx to Stilt

now waiting for the "clouded in mystery" Foxconn 965

French is my thread :D and german spoke about my thread on xs and about this one :D

[The Stilt]

Where in the bios ??? , mine ES step 5 got also unlocked multiplier.

And the others setting ?

do you use tforce oc software to do + 500 mhz or other one ?, because it s max 500 in bios.

Did you change bios since the last you gave me ?

Stepping 6F5 (B1) is not unlocked, the multiplier can be only adjusted with EIST.

I used Clockgen to raise the FSB from 500MHz.

I´ll try to extend the bios FSB range from 500FSB to 600FSB later today.

[Pt1t]

Stepping 6F5 (B1) is not unlocked, the multiplier can be only adjusted with EIST.

I used Clockgen to raise the FSB from 500MHz.

I´ll try to extend the bios FSB range from 500FSB to 600FSB later today.

Thanks,

but clockgen with pll ?

and your bios setting, do you put all voltage (exept vcore) on max ?

[The Stilt]

Thanks,

but clockgen with pll ?

and your bios setting, do you put all voltage (exept vcore) on max ?

I´ll post them later today.
I´m currently at work.

[Pt1t]

I´ll post them later today.
I currently at work.


:D me too :toast:

[Fr3ak]

Stilt, you were running SLI on the Biostar according to this post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1629158&postcount=64
Did it work right out of the box with Big Sams' modified drivers?
And are the cards detected in the 4x slot? It only uses about a third of the connectors, so its hard to imagine.
If that works without much performance loss, the Biostar will be THE budget board to get :)

[The Stilt]

Stilt, you were running SLI on the Biostar according to this post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1629158&postcount=64
Did it work right out of the box with Big Sams' modified drivers?
And are the cards detected in the 4x slot? It only uses about a third of the connectors, so its hard to imagine.
If that works without much performance loss, the Biostar will be THE budget board to get :)

SLI works with any driver which has the internal checks disabled.
To make SLI work the PCI-E buses must be enabled by bios.

Of course the board must be made physically compatible first ;)

[TEDY]

so it's 130€ ?

[Pt1t]

so it's 130€ ?

in belgium 165€ (tva 21%)

[mine]

French is my thread :D and german spoke about my thread on xs and about this one :D

bon travail mon vieux :-)

[Lestat]

what about a 9x multi for us 6600 owners.

[Zulusman]

Pitty that i didnt know that board week ago...My father has just left germany :(
What about seccond board The Stilt ??

[pcmoddingmy]

The same mod should work with all Biostar boards with similar overvoltage jumper. The original resistance should be checked before doing it thou.

The maximum voltage?
Enough :D
That's cool... I'll try it out on my board once I get it back. Btw, how to check the original resistance? Is it through the jumper or through the IC/choke?

C'mon man, tell us how high can the VDIMM go with that mod... :confused:

[Pt1t]

what about a 9x multi for us 6600 owners.

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600es/1M_450X9.PNG

With a tuniq tower 120 and 30°c ambiant.

i have to try subzero :D

[The Stilt]

The settings I use:

FSB Termination Voltage: 1.50V
NB/SB Voltage: 1.6V
System Memory Frequency: 533MHz (1:1)
CPU Clock: 500MHz (for bootup)
PCI-E Clock Select: Fixed 100MHz

Memory timings:

tCL: 4
tRCD: 4
tRP: 3
tRAS: 9
tWR: Auto
tWTR: Auto
tRRD: Auto
tRTP: Auto

I adjust the sub timings from the bios.

[Lestat]

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/6600es/1M_450X9.PNG

With a tuniq tower 120 and 30°c ambiant.

i have to try subzero :D


damn i like that screen shot Pt1t ! now if they would make this in a miniATX id be happy.... i think lol.

[sfxs]

Does anyone know when/if this board is going to be available in the US?

-sfxs

[zillaoc]

Does anyone know when/if this board is going to be available in the US?

-sfxs


mmmm 2nd that...

[an0nym0us]

Does anyone know when/if this board is going to be available in the US?

-sfxs
+1 i'm probably gonna get that POS ASRock for my transition to the E6300 because i can use that same board with a smithfield 820 i have when i upgrade my board for the conroe. what i want to know is between this board and the 965P DS3, which is a better bang for your buck?

[Btrice]

3rd. Based on the research I have done here and everywhere reputable I can get to come up on Google, this is DEFINITELY the board for me its cheaper and doesn't suffer the multitude of problems the DS3 has (or so it seems).

[[XC] hipno650]

man only if that was a retail e6600 not a es i would buy it right know:D :D

[alpha0ne]

Nice board, thanks Stilt for making me want one when I already have two Conroe compatableboards :)

[gundamit]

Of course the board must be made physically compatible first ;) Can you elaborate on this? :confused: A physical change or mod? Same on every 965 mobo? Not just putting the second card in the short 4x slot?

[Shrekogre]

any link to the beta bios?

[Pt1t]

Vdimm mod done with an 50K vr , But to do 2.4v i had to lower vr to 1750 Ohms.
After that goes up very quickly like the stilt said.

Why dont use 5K vr in place of 50K ?


http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/DDR2/9X367_551-4-4-4-12.png

[Pt1t]

any link to the beta bios?


http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/IP96A803TSA.rar

0803 beta bios modded by the stilt.

[FLMJIGGY]

2.4 is nice... Great and very helpful thread u 2. Thanks A LOT!!! I think I might have found my Connie board!

[Rol-Co]

not any progress with this board? it's awefull quiet here .......:(

[DjLeco]

Rol-Co, your Asus P5W DH Deluxe is modded?
If yes, u can tell me your settings and voltages?
Thank's!

[DrJay]

The same mod should work with all Biostar boards with similar overvoltage jumper. The original resistance should be checked before doing it thou.

The maximum voltage?
Enough :D

Nice V-mod.:toast:
I saw a similar mod for AMD AM2 Biostar boards at rebelshaven.

[NicoOCZ]

Hyvä! Looks tempting :)

[Lestat]

are you guys actually able to cold boot with FSB settings above 400 ? 450 ? 500?

meaning set it in the bios. go into windows. power down. power back on and everything boots 100%.
no cold boot screw ups like the DS3 where anything over 400 it wont boot ?

[metro.cl]

Stilt awsome thread, but i read on biostars website that it has vdimm up to 3.1v with just mooving a jumper,why mod it?

[xlink]

any body think I could hit 366/7 FSB on decent volts for 24/7 use(long term - several years with any luck) I am hoping to push an e6600 to 3.3GHz so just looking at my options

[caligula]

Stilt awsome thread, but i read on biostars website that it has vdimm up to 3.1v with just mooving a jumper,why mod it?

Because it jumps directly to 3.1V ? :stick:

[metro.cl]

Because it jumps directly to 3.1V ? :stick:

that would be insane, stilt can you confirm this?

[Pjoeloe]

Is this board "world wide " sold out ? :p: if no, where to get one :cool:

[cluzoe]

:confused:

[irenic]

rite now i'm at 390x9 on my e6600 steppin 6.. it's not stable but at least can boot.

btw, why i cant find cpu multiplier in the bios? i'm using Stilt mod bios...

[Pjoeloe]

I think the ds3 and ds4 are @ 9 x 400 @ they`re max. We need another great bios :) . My ds3 rocks @ 9 x 400, If I can do 9 x 450 I`m happy :) .

[irenic]

on my dq6 i can do 367, ds4 360. so for me 390 (so far) is consider good already :D

but where is the multiplier? i wanna do 400x8 for daily use! :(

[Lestat]

does this board even exsist in the USA ?
has anyone seen it forsale here ?

[dandragonrage]

I would also like to know that. Froogle doesn't list it.

[Drunner611]

This board doesn't exist, nearly anywhere.

[Btrice]

Absolutely nowhere in the USA. In the other thread we have found a couple places in Germany that are actually taking orders for it.

I called Biostar-USA in CA last week and they have no ETA on a US release.

[irenic]

and in my place i can find it quite in number :D

[Btrice]

Lucky.

Are you using the memory in your sig? I have read through the threads and I am worried a bit about my OCZ 800 Gold and this board, I believe it will boot but hopefully its not flakey like the other boards.

I really don't mind waiting a bit longer, cause that will just force me to wait and get a better deal on an E6600 as well; but it would be nice to see an ETA for US release.

[irenic]

Lucky.

Are you using the memory in your sig? I have read through the threads and I am worried a bit about my OCZ 800 Gold and this board, I believe it will boot but hopefully its not flakey like the other boards.

I really don't mind waiting a bit longer, cause that will just force me to wait and get a better deal on an E6600 as well; but it would be nice to see an ETA for US release.

well i'm using mushkin ddr2 800. never have problem during boot either in gigabyte or this biostar.. and it is capable of doing 1088mhz @ 5-6-5-15 2.2vdimm..

btw i just update my sig :D

[dandragonrage]

Ship some out to us.

[Lestat]

uhm fix that picture so we can actually read it.
save it as a jpg or gif a gif will make it a pretty small file size but you can increase the actually frame size of the picture.
you cant even read that picture

[metro.cl]

talked to some biostar rep and he said they have huge shortage of this model :(

[Btrice]

talked to some biostar rep and he said they have huge shortage of this model :(

Somebody needs to lose their job over that. I mean based on the few results we have its a little early to make a solid statement about the board, but if results like this continue, Biostar is missing out on the business of all the people fed up with dealing with garbage boards. Hell there isn't really even a board yet that will work 100% flawlessly right out of the box (shipped BIOS) WITHOUT adding overclocking to the mix.

[metro.cl]

the rep said the mobo is an awsome overclocker, keep in mind that new bios is always a must for overclockers, for example DFI

i dont mind flashing another bios to get max OC

[irenic]

:D

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3539/biostarcpuznq6.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9017/biostarsoftwarelq8.jpg

[Shrekogre]

i got this board but max fsb is 366. anyone can help me get pass this wall? and did you guys replace the nb hsf? mine is TOO HOT to touch, even with a fan blowing on it.

[kais]

wow, for 130 bucks and 530fsb this is much better than the ds3, maybe i should wait for my conroe setup

[Dankie]

I just spoke with Biostar sales department in the US. I asked them about availability of this motherboard. He stated that the motherboards are en route and should be available for purchase in 10 days.

Feel free to call for yourself and confirm (626) 581 1055.

[Btrice]

I just spoke with Biostar sales department in the US. I asked them about availability of this motherboard. He stated that the motherboards are en route and should be available for purchase in 10 days.

Feel free to call for yourself and confirm (626) 581 1055.

Nice, last week they told me no ETA. Good news indeed. Thanks for the effort man. :)

[Lestat]

yeah just let others be the guinea pigs lol.
if you look above these guys aint getting close to 400mhz FSB
maybe its just one or two guys but still..

we'll have to wait and see what happens.

spekaing of prices did you guys see those a$$holes at newegg raised the price of the P5W DH another 10 bucks. its now 259.99 it was 249.99

[Shrekogre]

yeah just let others be the guinea pigs lol.
if you look above these guys aint getting close to 400mhz FSB
maybe its just one or two guys but still..

we'll have to wait and see what happens.

spekaing of prices did you guys see those a$$holes at newegg raised the price of the P5W DH another 10 bucks. its now 259.99 it was 249.99

then i'm not going to share my results with you. just j/k :D :D

I was previously walled on 366 fsb. but after changing the NB HSF to this,
http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Cooler/VGAnCHIPnMEM/cl-c0034/cl-c0034.asp

i can get this

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5136/37gto5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i still can post at 422x9, but can't boot into windows. i guess my cpu is limiting me.

[Pjoeloe]

No more results with this board ?

[DaWaN]

No more results with this board ?
I wished I had this board, postponed till september for me :(

[Pjoeloe]

biostar is a week closed ... nice....

[SF3D]

...

[Pjoeloe]

375 fsb ? that`s nog realy high.... :( ...

Did you used memset and setfsb to see what latency`s are the best for your mem ? p965 chipset is very buggy,

I could not go higher than 9 x 400 on my ds3 and with memset and setfsb, I knew what the ideal settings were for my mem, changed them in de the bios and voila

[Shrekogre]

i could post at 422 fsb but i think my cpu cannot take it.

[coolice]

how to meansure vdimm from the coil nearest to ramslots?i put red clip on he coil and then where should i out my black clip?

and one more thing,im using stilt moded bios,when i set cl to 5 or 6,cpuz will show cl3

[Pt1t]

how to meansure vdimm from the coil nearest to ramslots?i put red clip on he coil and then where should i out my black clip?

and one more thing,im using stilt moded bios,when i set cl to 5 or 6,cpuz will show cl3

Black on ground.

[coolice]

Black on ground.
tried but not working..can post some pic when u measure?

[Pt1t]

http://users.skynet.be/pt1t/biostar/voltage_mes.JPG

There and ground.

[coolice]

thanks alot Pt1t..
anyone can solve the cl thingy prob?

[coolice]

as i followed wat stilt said..i mean the vmod..one side on 2-3 pins..another side put on ground..get 0.53v..=.="..how come?

[cluzoe]

EIST "speedstep" is Disabled your motherboard ???

[Pt1t]

EIST "speedstep" is Disabled your motherboard ???

yes C1E via bios function.

[cluzoe]

yes C1E via bios function.
thanks :toast:

[irenic]

hi, where can i find cpu multiplier option in bios?

[cluzoe]

my settings "EIST speedstep" Disabled in BIOS
:D

[SF3D]

I got nice reply from Biostar support :rolleyes:

...Dear Sir

Thanks for your update.

Basically , we won't guarantee that all brands memory can be run normally
on our mainboard because they use different memory chip...

:slapass:

[SynGroW]

Got my board today.

Results so far are not too bad. I can run up to 440MHz FSB with boxed air (multi 7x)

With a single-stager my max. FSB rises to 480~482MHz.

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/480.JPG

Concidered that my 200 euro Asus P5B Deluxe does 455MHz FSB boxed air and 490MHz FSB with SS then this 130 euro Biostar isn't bad at all :)

[DaWaN]

I have some severe problems with that VIA chip and my Pioneer DVD writer, so can't install windows right now. Is it possible to use IDE --> Sata convertor for a DVD burner ? And also this board doesn't boot with PC2-3200 sticks. I have 2x512mb PC3200 fatbody's doing 500mhz 4-3-2-8 easy but they don't boot. My AENEON PC2-4200 sticks died so can't use them either. Still i'm happy with this board because it does boot at 370 with my dead AENEON so i'm past that stupid wall on my 975X/G infinity. When I get the DVD writer working and another set of mem i'll defently let you know how this board goes !!

[cluzoe]

I got nice reply from Biostar support :rolleyes:

...Dear Sir

Thanks for your update.

Basically , we won't guarantee that all brands memory can be run normally
on our mainboard because they use different memory chip...

:slapass:
damn nice :nono:

[kiwi]

SynGroW
What batch is it? L627 maybe? I am looking for L627, they seem to be the best retail chips, at least 6600 :)

[DltdApS]

is it really a good mainboard with E6600 ES step5 ?

[SynGroW]

SynGroW
What batch is it? L627 maybe? I am looking for L627, they seem to be the best retail chips, at least 6600 :)
Nah, it's a L624

[Pjoeloe]

I think Biostar is waiting for the new revision of the P965 chipset ( C2 )

[raydelee]

here is oc result with biostar P965

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8247/c2de663708mhzpi32mx2412x9di3.th.jpg (http://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2de663708mhzpi32mx2412x9di3.jpg)

[Lestat]

here is oc result with biostar P965

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8247/c2de663708mhzpi32mx2412x9di3.th.jpg (http://img482.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2de663708mhzpi32mx2412x9di3.jpg)


and where did you buy the board ?

and is that all the baord can do ? is that the highest stable settings you can do ?
what about running the ram at 1000mhz ?
what about running the FSB way high..
eh ? eh ?

the screenshot doesnt tell anyone anything.

describe to us whats going on,, good and bad..

[raydelee]

and where did you buy the board ?

and is that all the baord can do ? is that the highest stable settings you can do ?
what about running the ram at 1000mhz ?
what about running the FSB way high..
eh ? eh ?

the screenshot doesnt tell anyone anything.

describe to us whats going on,, good and bad..

bought here in Malaysia.

highest benchable 1m 3.8ghz
my ram need vdimm2.4v to run at 1000mhz mobo max only 2.2vdimm
anyway vdimm mod coming soon
can't run too high fsb coz the bios doesn't have cpu ratio so stuck at 9x

this mobo definitely better than my ex-ds3 coz i have no problem booting my e6600 over 400fsb x9,intel raid,built in power/reset button,cmos reloaded & US$25 cheaper than DS3.
bad-vdimm 2.2v only & no cpu ratio

this is another screenshot dropping cpu ratio using crystalcpuid :

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/6018/c2de663708mhzpi32mx2zn6.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c2de663708mhzpi32mx2zn6.jpg)

[DaWaN]

Well I have a problem again, my board mem combination doesn't like 1:1. I only can get 420mhz FSB :stick: I'll need 2,6Vdimm for that. But strange thing is that the memory isn't exactly the problem, in other divider it can reach 420 on 2,2V but on 1:1 I need 2,6Vdimm for it and it's strange too because if I change from 4-3-2-8 to 4-4-4-8 it doesn't change max FSB at all while Vdimm defently does. So pretty weird but I might wanna try other memories because I think it's the memories flashed SPD which is the problem.

[cluzoe]

I think Biostar is waiting for the new revision of the P965 chipset ( C2 )
need new revision :D

[Shrekogre]

Well I have a problem again, my board mem combination doesn't like 1:1. I only can get 420mhz FSB :stick: I'll need 2,6Vdimm for that. But strange thing is that the memory isn't exactly the problem, in other divider it can reach 420 on 2,2V but on 1:1 I need 2,6Vdimm for it and it's strange too because if I change from 4-3-2-8 to 4-4-4-8 it doesn't change max FSB at all while Vdimm defently does. So pretty weird but I might wanna try other memories because I think it's the memories flashed SPD which is the problem.

change the default nb hs.

[DaWaN]

change the default nb hs.
No it's the faulty SPD, I already have a decent cooling on the northbridge, i'll be back with >450 as soon as I have a SPD dump and CPU is willing to do 450 :)

[pcmoddingmy]

Guys,
Is there a working ClockGen for the TForce P965 Deluxe mobo?
I've tried the 1.0.4.8 but it doesn't seem to work. :rolleyes:

Just got this mobo today and currently priming my little E6300 at 3GHz... stock vcore and stock cooler of cause... Heck, all the voltages were left stock. Except for the RAMs, which got the 2.2VDIMM jumper treatment (actual 2.1V).

The NB heatsink gets a litte warm at 429FSB, but considering that I didn't raise the chipset volt, it is not too hot. In fact, its just warm to touch. I have a 120mm case fan facing towards the mobo though. But the MOSFETs are starting to warm up a little. Maybe those fellas need some heatsinks on them. The board has the mounting ready for a PWM heatsink.

Cheers! :toast:

[Shrekogre]

Guys,
Is there a working ClockGen for the TForce P965 Deluxe mobo?
I've tried the 1.0.4.8 but it doesn't seem to work. :rolleyes:

Just got this mobo today and currently priming my little E6300 at 3GHz... stock vcore and stock cooler of cause... Heck, all the voltages were left stock. Except for the RAMs, which got the 2.2VDIMM jumper treatment (actual 2.1V).

The NB heatsink gets a litte warm at 429FSB, but considering that I didn't raise the chipset volt, it is not too hot. In fact, its just warm to touch. I have a 120mm case fan facing towards the mobo though. But the MOSFETs are starting to warm up a little. Maybe those fellas need some heatsinks on them. The board has the mounting read for a PWM heatsink.

Cheers! :toast:

I couldn't find the pwm hs. been searching for it for a long time

[pcmoddingmy]

I couldn't find the pwm hs. been searching for it for a long time
I guess it has to be custom made...
Any idea on the ClockGen for this board?
I seriously need one. Limited to 472FSB here... :slapass:
Cooling the NB with TR HR-05 and the CPU is cooled by Ultra-90.
Tried everything... even giving 1.55Vcore.
I doubt my RAM is limiting me because I'm running the PC2-8000 VX2. It does 500MHz at CL4 with 2.3V... Yeah, got the VDIMM mod done. Feeding 2.3V to the sticks...

With the VDIMM mod, the VDIMM can go up to 2.6V easily. It can go further though (up to 3V!)...just don't dare to kill my VX2 yet! :nono:

^Btw, it should read like this "The board has the mounting ready for PWM heatsink" :P

Edit: Flashed to The Stilt's modded BIOS and currently doing Memtest at 3.4GHz - 485FSB!

[pcmoddingmy]

Okay... finally got ClockGen working with this board.
I used ClockGen 1.0.4.8 and PLL setup to ICS 9PLRS509.
Hope this info useful for others with this board.

But still cant get it to do 485FSB... grrrh

[Lestat]

where the hell can you even buy this board ?

[pcmoddingmy]

where the hell can you even buy this board ?
The board is retailing here, in Malaysia. For RM500 (USD$136).
Tmr, I'll ask Biostar about the lack of availability in other countries and see what's going on.

[DaWaN]

450mhz FSB is easy :D
CPU limit on boxed cooler :)
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/9320/16016lv5.th.jpg (http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16016lv5.jpg)

[pcmoddingmy]

Just tested the GeForce 7950GX2 on this board and it doesn't boot! :slapass:
Back to my good ol' X800XL!
So if anyone planning to stick a 7950GX2 onto this board, please take not that it will not work. Well, at least with the current BIOS.. but I don't think a BIOS update is going to allow it to run the GX2.

[htkm1]

Got some good O/Cing and I'm quite happy with the motherboard.
Here's my set-up. Used Swiftech's chip-set HSH for the NB.
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7751/tf965dax1.th.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf965dax1.jpg)

CPU-Z:
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8817/cpuzvdxh8.th.jpg (http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuzvdxh8.jpg)

O/C Results:
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/3016/tf965spi35ghzje5.th.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf965spi35ghzje5.jpg)

[pcmoddingmy]

Sigh... I still couldn't get past 472FSB with my E6300.
Managed to post at 486FSB a couple of times but usually crashes at memtest!
My CPU does 3.3GHz 472FSB at 1.424V prime stable, so I doubt my CPU is holding me. Anyhow, I couldn't maxout my CPU because of this motherboard... or perhaps it has already maxed? Tried 1.5V to 1.6V also can't go over 472FSB.

My RAMs are rated at 500MHz.. so not a problem either. NB is cooled by TR HR-05 and SI-120 on the CPU. Feeding a 700W FSP PSU to it... so everything is ready for over 500FSB. I guess its the board... :(

Any idea if this board dislikes OCZ (D9) RAMs? Will try some HyperX later (Elpida ICs)...

[Pjoeloe]

new review : http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/09/06/review_biostar_tforce_p965_deluxe/ :)

[htkm1]

OK. vdimm mod done! Here's the photo.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3844/tf965vdimmvmodyv9.jpg

[DaWaN]

50K is way to much, I use 20K but that's more than enough, i'd bet a 10k would do too.

[htkm1]

OC results.

SuperPi 32M:
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5900/tf965spi32m35ghz02qa8.th.jpg (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf965spi32m35ghz02qa8.jpg)

3DMark 2005:
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7140/tf9653dm0535ghzzw8.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf9653dm0535ghzzw8.jpg)

3DMark 2006:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1655/tf9653dm0635ghzdo1.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tf9653dm0635ghzdo1.jpg)

[JWilson]

Anyone know of a on-line store that has the board, that ships to the USA?

[ooeric]

holy hell... the easiest vdimm mod ive seen. lol
now if i can only get my hands on one of these boards to play with.. my ds4 is getting boring




OK. vdimm mod done! Here's the photo.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3844/tf965vdimmvmodyv9.jpg

[Ace-a-Rue]

AND...if you do not have a spare fan header...ANY ground on the mobo or case will work.

[Nikod3mus]

Currently running 8x360 (1.3625V) 1:1 CAS 3-4-4-9 (2.2V) with ease, but everything above that doesen´t boot. Tried everything from 361 to 450... all voltages, CAS 6-7-7-20... only result is machine booting up by it self, LED1 shuts off (LED2 on) and two long beeps. After that another boot and the board is at stock FSB :/

LED1 off / LED2 on = VGA error, but changing to Radeon X300SE didn´t help, so it´s probably memory related. I haven´t tried change all memory latencies... four lowest options are at AUTO setting. Should I change them too? Or does someone have any other ideas cause I´m sure running out...

I´m using 8/03 bios modded by The Stilt.

[JWilson]

The Rebels Haven has a mod version of the new 914 BIOS. Here's the changelog:

Changed Default Setting
Full Screen Logo: Set to Disable
EPA Logo: Set to Enable
Summary Screen: Set to Enable

Thermal Control: Set to Disable
C1E Function: Set to Disable
Execute Disable Bit: Set to Disable
Virtualization Technology: Set to Disable


Unhid:
CPU L1 & L2 Cache
Load Failsafe Defaults

Auto Detect PCI Clk
Spread Spectrum: Set Startup to Disable

Cas: 1,2,7,8,9,10
Trcd: 1,2
Trp: 1,2

Moved:
Memory Hole: moved to DRAM Configuration

As the board is not as yet available in the USA, so they are looking for someone that can recover from a bad flash to test the BIOS. The modder has a long track record of successful mods, so it should be OK..... Anyone?

[irenic]

2 forumers from this forum have tried that bios :

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=339793&st=40&p=8524256&#entry8524256

[JWilson]

You tested the Official 914, not the Mod 914. But the 914 doesn't have the NB/SB voltage setting? Is that what I read? That sucks if true...

[htkm1]

You tested the Official 914, not the Mod 914. But the 914 doesn't have the NB/SB voltage setting? Is that what I read? That sucks if true...

Link to the Bios for D/L. thank you.

[JWilson]

Link to the Bios for D/L. thank you.

http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sisubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=53;t=000124

[Lestat]

is this ever gunna show up here in the usa ?

[Ace-a-Rue]

hey man...europe is the testbed...LOL...just relax....many other boards available for your liking. :D

[SynGroW]

Anyone figured out a vcore mod yet?

The 1,8000v option in the bios isn't enough for me (gives ~1,71v DMM)
I need up to 1,85v for cascade testing of my CPU so a vcore mod is necessary.

[baok]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5571/tforcep965vddr2modpj4.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tforcep965vddr2modpj4.jpg)

thanks for the guide but i have one question

how to read/set the actual vdimm because my p965 deluxe bios just have vdimm until 1.8v and i want to set at 2.5..

noobie here..

thanks..

[Pt1t]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5571/tforcep965vddr2modpj4.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tforcep965vddr2modpj4.jpg)

thanks for the guide but i have one question

how to read/set the actual vdimm because my p965 deluxe bios just have vdimm until 1.8v and i want to set at 2.5..

noobie here..

thanks..

first post of this page , There is a big photo :slap:

[baok]

-edited-

thanks.. :)

[JWilson]

Anyone have links for online sellers in Europe? thx :)

[Tacops]

Anyone have links for online sellers in Europe? thx :)

http://secures14.brinkster.com/gemma411/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=40_45&products_id=587
;)

[JWilson]

Thanks! :D

[Mats]

http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a209793.html

[Rubiconx3]

Wow im impressed Biostar

[DaWaN]

I've done 500mhz FSB with the official 914 bios, bios is doing fine :)
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=125440

[IvanAndreevich]

Is this board available in NA?

[FLMJIGGY]

Hey PC Mod, have you heard anything as to why it isn't available in the states?


Is 2.2 reg max V on this puppy?

[pcmoddingmy]

Hey PC Mod, have you heard anything as to why it isn't available in the states?

Is 2.2 reg max V on this puppy?
Yup... I've posted the reason in my TForce P965 DLX review. (http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/content.php?review.387) Read up the conclusion part... the reason behind has something to do with chipset stock limitation.

[FLMJIGGY]

Nice review. Thanks.

PT should be much cheaper I would presume. Any idea what the main differences are.

Also the easy VDimm mod should ease the mem options...

[pcmoddingmy]

Biostar also carries the TForce 965PT (http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20775/tforce_965PT/product_details.php) and TForce P965. (http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/products/socket%20775/tforce_P965/product_details.php) The difference between the Deluxe and non-Deluxe models is RAID support. Currently, only the Deluxe version offers RAID configuration with RAID 0, 1, 5 and 1+0. This was mainly because the Deluxe version utilizes ICH8R SB chipset whereas the non-Deluxe versions utilizes the plain ICH8 (non-R) SB chipset. Other than that, the bundled accessories will be reduced on the non-Deluxe versions.

Apparently, the non-Deluxe versions supports up to 8GB physical memory. Deluxe versions supports 4GB max only...
Looking at the pictures on the product pages, the PT version looks to have 4 SATA ports only...but the P965 (non-DLX) seems to have 6 SATA ports as seen on the picture. However, both have only 4 SATA listed on their specs.


TForce 965PT
http://www.biostar.com.cn/Products/images/200692710325342435.jpg

[FLMJIGGY]

They have the worst website.

Can't even see the products. No large images whatsoever. The pt looks a tad different than the reg 965... tiny pic so can't tell.

Thanks a bunch PC Mod. You're always helpful.

Biostar always has passive heatsink. I guess to cut costs they do this. They put no info whatsoever on release dates.


btw the DFI is running tremendous. Never got to modding the case so I'm thinking of doing an Epox 6100 am2 till the e4300 comes out... unless a GOOD cheapie motherboard comes out. Was thinking on the DS3 but I hate junkabyte and I don't know about the s3 even though it seems it's the same.

[Lestat]

damn it where the hell is this board in the USA!!! ggrrrr

[Rol-Co]

problem with the board is memory, you need good one's

corsair 6400 c5 fatty did 500+ on the asus p5b ,on the biostar it stopt at 370, no matter what timing.
now g.skill c3 and running smooth at 500x8 :D

[bingo13]

damn it where the hell is this board in the USA!!! ggrrrr

Late October at best, shortage of ICH8R chips right now. ;)

[Arska]

If you need a pic of the 965PT, here's one from me: http://users.utu.fi/artani/temp/biostar-965pt.jpg

I'm also curious to hear about the differences between 965 deluxe and 965pt. Obviously 965pt has just 4 sata ports and no raid. What about overclockability, possibly missing bios settings compared to deluxe and if all bios releases are suitable for all 3 different versions of the mobo?

It's not quite clear in my picture but the memory voltage jumper is there, and also the manual mentions 8 GB max for both deluxe and 965pt, so I'm pretty sure that biostar's web page reports a wrong maximum for deluxe.

My situation is that I ordered the deluxe and received the 965pt. I'm considering keeping the pt if the only differences are the sata ports and raid. This is why I can't test it unless I first decide to keep it. Of course I'd demand a discount in this case.

[pcmoddingmy]

Arska, basically the PT and Deluxe has the exact same board layout and I would like to believe that they both share the same BIOS. However, flashing the Deluxe BIOS to the PT is not recommended unless Biostar says so. This is because the PT does not support RAID.

I would also say that the overclockability should be just as good as the Deluxe. I'll drop Biostar an email today and update this thread once I got a reply from them.

[Arska]

My bad, I checked Biostar's homepage again and noticed that they do offer a separate smaller bios for the 965pt.

[loserkids]

just got 965pt today, i flash it with deluxe bios date 0803. it able to hit fsb 500

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3897/fsb500if9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

but its not stable, but it boot to windows n able to do 1Mb pi, try orthos n it restarted

put it down to fsb 450 n its rock stable with default voltage

[SynGroW]

I decided to do a vcore mod today. After some research I found a way to do the mod.

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/vcore_biostar_pic.JPG

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/vcore_biostar_pic2.JPG

Special thanks to persivore and Rol-co for the help they gave :)

[FLMJIGGY]

how is vdroop?

[FLMJIGGY]

If you need a pic of the 965PT, here's one from me: http://users.utu.fi/artani/temp/biostar-965pt.jpg

I'm also curious to hear about the differences between 965 deluxe and 965pt. Obviously 965pt has just 4 sata ports and no raid. What about overclockability, possibly missing bios settings compared to deluxe and if all bios releases are suitable for all 3 different versions of the mobo?

It's not quite clear in my picture but the memory voltage jumper is there, and also the manual mentions 8 GB max for both deluxe and 965pt, so I'm pretty sure that biostar's web page reports a wrong maximum for deluxe.

My situation is that I ordered the deluxe and received the 965pt. I'm considering keeping the pt if the only differences are the sata ports and raid. This is why I can't test it unless I first decide to keep it. Of course I'd demand a discount in this case.


Thank you 4 pic

Thank you PC Mod as well 4 finding out 4 us.

[pcmoddingmy]

My bad, I checked Biostar's homepage again and noticed that they do offer a separate smaller bios for the 965pt.
Here's Biostar's respond:

The BIOS (for 965PT) is different. However the OC options are the same.
There are indeed only 4 SATA ports.

Btw, check a few posts above mine and you will see loserkids doing 500FSB with the 965PT with DLX BIOS. :clap: Maybe you should just fire up that board of yours... ;)

[Rol-Co]

Look at this........the board has 4x sata
ordered a deluxe , and getting this :hm:

http://82.173.172.10/Rol-Co/bio1.jpg

http://82.173.172.10/Rol-Co/bio2.jpg

http://82.173.172.10/Rol-Co/bio3.jpg

But it runs 500fsb with the 0914 bios......only no goodies

so this is the way biostar selling the boards now??? OMG but its cheap € 115,-

[FLMJIGGY]

LOL Aw man. That is not cool.

I'm sure there is a decent price difference. Some kind of $ back is due :mad: :slapass:

[Arska]

Btw, check a few posts above mine and you will see loserkids doing 500FSB with the 965PT with DLX BIOS. :clap: Maybe you should just fire up that board of yours... ;)

Yeah, it's running alright now. I requested a discount due to getting a different model. Nothing much in overclocking department yet, trying to figure out how to get a sata drive recognized (wd2500js). Bios can't detect it, shows only a blank entry for it. I wonder if I should change something in bios to cure that? Not recognized even when sata 2 was disabled.

[keiths]

Yet another product that's not available in the US.

[Ace-a-Rue]

this is typical of manufacturers...nothing new!

[SynGroW]

how is vdroop?

No problems with vdroop :). Vcore increases a litte under load (0,02v)

Did a max. FSB test with my E6700ES.
http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/motherboard/551_fsb.PNG

551MHz FSB, not bad for a budget board :)

[pcmoddingmy]

OMG..... did I just see 550FSB on a Biostar board??! :eek:

[Dax5]

this is sick! 551FSB!!!!!!!!!

[Arska]

But it runs 500fsb with the 0914 bios......only no goodies


Are you hitting 500fsb with the pt and its original 0914 bios? If so, could you share your voltage settings and what fsb do you boot it with?

[Cappie]

Some more pics from tweakers.net,

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/PB080048.JPG

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/PB080050.JPG

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/PB080051.JPG

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/PB080052.JPG

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/PB080067.JPG

http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/P965/PB080075.JPG

Full article HERE (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:aA76p_9v1GIJ:gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1151840+TForce+P965&hl=nl&gl=be&ct=clnk&cd=1)

Board can apparently be bought in germany for one hell of a cheap*** price of 113€:LOL:

[Pjoeloe]

Board can apparently be bought in germany for one hell of a cheap*** price of 113€:LOL:
the webshop you mean send only the stuff to germany and all the others don`t have this board in stock and won`t get it for a long time, I don`t care because this board is to small for me ( my cooler is to big because memory is to close )

edit : asus p5b vanilla is 113 euro also in germany. You get a bigger board, and clocks the same as the biostar, only, with the biostar you get a few extra`s you don`t get with the asus.

[Cappie]

Not a big fan either of biostar, but still looks like a very nice budget board.

[Pjoeloe]

new Intel P965 Shootout Part 1
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/963/

[Lestat]

where the hell is this board in the USA damn it!!

[charlie]

ditto.


They have the TFORCE 945P here in the US... why not the 965P?????

[Rol-Co]

biostar 965pt
E6600 w28B
g.skill c3 2gb

Nice board , but original bios 914 overhere, maybe try another bios because you cant disable c1e in this one.
when the system doing nothing for 5-10sec the board drops voltage to 1.0v, thats not so nice on 4ghz+ :D
strange freeze on the board to, wil post results later with another bios.

1m max air for now

http://82.173.172.10/Rol-Co/4175.jpg

Validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=128362)

nice chip also btw :slobber:

[DaWaN]

Syngrow is going TOO fast with this board :slobber:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/129933.png
590mhz FSB 1:1 Dual channel 4-4-4-8 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=129933)
And sub 10s SuperPi1M too :slobber:
http://home.hccnet.nl/J_Bongers/SuperPI/9953.PNG
Validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=129956)

[Lestat]

somehow i find that hard to believe, like impossible,, 576 fsb on a 9x multi ?
on this board ?


so ok who wants to take my money and buy one and send it to me. ?

[Rol-Co]

somehow i find that hard to believe, like impossible,, 576 fsb on a 9x multi ?
on this board ?


so ok who wants to take my money and buy one and send it to me. ?

believe it..!! i did almost 4200 air with those chips, same board..

nice result syngrow :slobber:

[775911]

Syngrow is going TOO fast with this board :slobber:

Thats more then water cooling then, the volts looks awful low though

[SynGroW]

Thats more then water cooling then, the volts looks awful low though
Cooled by unknown_road cascade. Vcore is 1.96v (CPUz can't read vcore correctly in my setup)

[StealthyFish]

Nice Results... looking better then Asus and dats something when its intel.

1 model from asus. P5LD2. that was not an overclocking motherboard.... lol

[775911]

Cooled by unknown_road cascade. Vcore is 1.96v (CPUz can't read vcore correctly in my setup)
:slobber:
You dont do things by halves do you

[Fr3ak]

Seems like I have finally found a nice replacement for my Sempron Tforce 6100 combo :)
I was more than happy with the Biostar boards I owned so far. That S754 Tforce does 400Mhz HTT before the cpu craps out. And the 965 board seems to be a nice board as well. Think I will be getting one with a E6300.
Thanks for the vdimm and Vcore mod. Will do them right out of the box :)

[bigpun]

hey guys:-)
just read some pages of this article...
i was about to get a asus p5b dlx but then i saw this....looks crayzee!
#
after 2 GA DS3 died when set ram timings in bios....im about to get this one.

i read you need good rams for max FSB ...
what about Cell Shock DDR800 recommended Vdimm is 2,2??
Anyone knows the cell shocks?? Should be same chips like Gskill GBHZ.

I would like to hit at least 500FSB....
What about cooling? Do i need any special cooling equipment? E.g. for NB or just a fan on it? if so...i would appreciate a silent one...any recommendations?
Is it really necessary to do the vdimm mod? i had the cellshocks on my GA DS3 @ 470FSB with 1,9v vdimm 4-4-4-8.


AND FINALLY:
some guys wanted to get this board...
im from germany and i would buy it for anyone who is interested in it...
as im new in this forum, we could manage it via ebay and payment via paypal...would be no problem, so.... msg me if u intersted.

My main question:
I have a 7950GX2....does it run on this board or not?!? I ready somewhere that it doesnt ...is this true? hopefully not!
THX for answering questions!

[irenic]

i sold my asus p5b dlx for this board and i've no regret. at all. :)

just i'm still waiting for a bios update.. does biostar has their own programmer?

[BryaN.sG]

ok im having troubles with this board. Seems like its got less options than a DS3. I don't see any dividers either. Can't seem to get past 333mhz FSB, when i could do 440mhz FSB with my DS3. I'm using kingston valueram ddr2 533 Hynix FP-C4. It could go 440mhz 1.8v 5-5-5-15 with my DS3 but i cant get past 333 mhz fsb with my Tforce P965PT.

[BryaN.sG]

any advice for me?

[SynGroW]

ok im having troubles with this board. Seems like its got less options than a DS3. I don't see any dividers either. Can't seem to get past 333mhz FSB, when i could do 440mhz FSB with my DS3. I'm using kingston valueram ddr2 533 Hynix FP-C4. It could go 440mhz 1.8v 5-5-5-15 with my DS3 but i cant get past 333 mhz fsb with my Tforce P965PT.

What bios are you running?

Dividers are in the OC'ing menu but they don't go any lower than 1:1

[BryaN.sG]

Thanks for replying so quickly, here's my bios screen.Stock ver. 0914 http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2865/p1010036oc1.jpg

I'm wondering if there's a need to change the NB hsf.

[Fr3ak]

There are a couple of posts in the beginning of this thread that say they were able to oc a lot higher when they were limited before they changed the NB cooler.
You could post a screenshot of your ramtimings aswell, maybe something is set to the wrong values.

[SynGroW]

Thanks for replying so quickly, here's my bios screen.Stock ver. 0914 http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2865/p1010036oc1.jpg

I'm wondering if there's a need to change the NB hsf.

Dividers can be set under the system memory frequency option. IIRC you can set 533, 667 and 800 which corresponds with 1:1, 4:5 and 2:3

Also it might be usefull to switch to the "The Stilt" bios which is posted a few pages back. I'm using that bios and my board is stable up to 585MHz FSB.

[greenman100]

where the hell is this board in the USA damn it!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138037

[BryaN.sG]

Thanks SynGroW, I've just updated to Stilt's bios and it works a lot better than the biostar one. More MCH options. Can go up to 396FSB for the time being. Gonna go get a better NB hsf later in the day.

Would a Thermalright HR-05-SLI fit the NB with a Ninja+ on the CPU?

[AzraelDarkangel]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138037

Hell Yeah!!!

[hoodlikegaza]

yeah not bad, but i prefer to have sata raid

[DaWaN]

With the 914 bios YOU WILL have freezes, that's because of the C1E function setting your CPU to 1,1Vcore.
Use The Stilt bios instead, it'll work fine :)

[Shaotai]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813138037

Close, but this is the regular version, not the Deluxe... :slapass:

Although it "should" clock the same... :)

[chanelight]

hmm... i really interested w/ this board... especially the 965pt one... or 965 regular :)

i wanna change my current mobo with this biostar to pair with my prescott 506.

does it really have a good performance like those already posted?

first time i was interested in DS3, but too expensive :(

in Biostar's web listed that 965pt doesn't support DDR533, is it real?